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GLENN: There is a new terror threat. The liberals would have pointed out that we're just a few weeks away and now this administration is getting serious about terror in saying there is a new terror threat. Umm, yes. Yes. Do you not believe the terrorists want to blow us up? I do. Do you think that they not see a golden opportunity? I think their golden opportunity quite frankly is after the election because I don't think that a terrorist hit helps the Democrats. I don't think that helps. I think that everybody goes and I could be wrong, but I think this nation says, "You guys wanted to empty out Gitmo. You guys wanted to have terrorist trials. You're hugging the terrorists and playing kissy face with them. You want to sit down and reason with them." So I just don't think that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and Barack Obama get the happy points for a terrorist attack. If you're playing the radical's game, they strike back at whoever it is that hits because you want to tie up the military. If you're playing the crazy game, the revolutionary game. And it helps bleed your treasury dry even faster.
However, I think a smarter play on this is a story that if you look at the Drudge Report, there's a high alert, new terror threat. And then you look straight down and in the mix of stories, there is this: Big sis says more information, lists, databases, matching, cross checks. The next stage of airport screening. The next story on that is, counterterror operation stops trucks on I 20 in Georgia. Intelligence chief declines to comment on alleged Al Qaeda plot. Multiple attack terror plot on European cities.
You see that in the Cass Sunstein fashion, what they would do is they would regulate us and inhibit our freedoms even more.
PAT: That's what I was thinking. When I when he said that we can absorb a terror strike and Woodward seems to be saying that he's setting the American people up for, "Yeah, we can just absorb this and take it. We don't need to respond to it." I think they respond domestically. I think they respond with more inconvenience at the airport, bus stations, the train terminals, more regulations on people, more snooping, more prying into our lives, more, "It's necessary. You guys don't want another one of these, right?"
GLENN: We have to have this on the Internet.
PAT: Have to have it.
GLENN: We have to have the monitoring. We must have warrantless, whatever.
PAT: That's what I think they will do.
GLENN: I think you're right on that.
PAT: And then we have the story about the vans, the x ray vans going through neighborhoods and all this. I think it's all connected.
GLENN: I do, too. I do, too.
PAT: Maybe not. Maybe not.
GLENN: Play Woodward. This is Woodward of Woodward and Bernstein fame on 60 Minutes about President Obama. First you'll hear President Obama.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: I said very early on as a senator and continued to believe as a presidential candidate and now as president that we can we can absorb, uh, a terrorist attack. We do we'll do everything we can to prevent it, but even a 9/11, even the biggest attack ever, that ever took place on our soil, we absorbed it and we are stronger. This is a strong, powerful country that we live in, and our people are incredibly resilient.
WOODWARD: I jumped in my chair a little bit when he told me, when he literally said we can absorb a terrorist attack.
SAWYER: Did he say it before?
WOODWARD: As best I can tell, no. I mean, all the people run around the White House and say we're living on borrowed time in terms of a terrorist attack, and I suspect consciously, unconsciously, he's laying the groundwork for telling the people we can absorb it, we'll try to prevent it, we're strong, we got over 9/11.
GLENN: Yeah, we did get over 9/11, and maybe that's the problem. We also did the PATRIOT Act after 9/11, which was a nightmare, and I was foolish enough to go along with it. I was naive. I trusted the government. I was somebody that during the Clinton administration said, can we stop saying that the president is killing people in our national parks? Can we please stop saying that? You know, because what I said at the time was, if we believe that, then we are farther down this road than you even imagine. You can't have a president offing people in the national parks and think, oh, well, but he's good with the dot com thing. You can't have it.
I'm a guy who is has always believed that we have had good presidents and bad presidents but not presidents that wanted to destroy the United States of America. And that may remain true. They may not think they're destroying the United States of America, but I have come to a more adult conclusion after I have stopped just chanting USA, USA, USA and stopped just waving the flag because it's the flag and we're America and we're always great. No. No, we're not always great. Sometimes we really suck beyond imagination, and we have had out and out evil presidents. Woodrow Wilson is one of them. Andrew Jackson is another one. Barack Obama may be the worst of all of them, and Barack Obama is a guy that fundamentally and you don't have to, you don't have to say, "Well, it's evil." He really, I believe he thinks he's doing the right thing. And, in fact, with his idea of collective salvation, he thinks he's doing the moral thing and he wants to fundamentally transform America, which means more regulation and telling people how to live their lives. And this would be a perfect opportunity. Not that he is planning it, not that he is plotting it.
I was just talking to somebody last night who's well, it's Joe. It's our researcher, and he's reading on Bonhoeffer right now, Dietrich Bonhoeffer. I don't know the name of this book. I haven't read it yet, but he has, and it's on my list of things to read. You must read it. You must read it. It's a guy who was in Nazi Germany and he started ringing the bell. He was the Paul Revere of Germany. Unfortunately he couldn't get people to listen to his midnight ride, and he eventually was killed. But he went on for, like, twelve years. Dietrich Bonhoeffer is his name. He's a hero of the left because he was a social justice guy. Of course he was. He was in Europe, in Germany. The choices were communism or national socialism. We have something different here called freedom.
But anyway, been reading about him, and Joe and I were talking about him last night and Joe said, I've also just finished a book, and I think it was from Spears, the Information Minister, not Goebbels, the propaganda minister but the information minister of Germany. And he said in his own diaries, he said that he was there during the Reichstag fire. Now, remember the Reichstag fire was the fight between the two sides.
The media and the left would like you to believe, the progressives would say this is a comparison between the tea parties who are the Nazis and, well, the tea parties who are also just crazy, I guess. Somehow or another they're you know, the tea parties are the Nazis and the Nazis in this scenario. But what it is really is big government against big government. It was the Nazis against the communists. And the Nazis were rounding up the communists. But remember they are, according to Hitler in his own words, we're the same, except we're not a global thing. We will take it over because we're national, because we believe in the German spirit. Where the other was workers of the world unite, they were workers of Germany unite. That's the fundamental difference between the two. They both killed millions of people. And so there was a fight between them: Are we going to be communists or are we going to be Nazis. Well, the Reichstag fire, some people believe that Hitler started it and he blamed it on the communists. And because this is what started the ball rolling. What he did is he rounded up the communists and he put in all kinds of new regulations: Monitoring the trains, monitoring everybody's movements, monitoring everything, locking the country down. It was the Reichstag movement that gave him the power. It was that fire. It was that crisis. Do not waste a crisis.
Now, again a lot of people think that the Nazis started it themselves, but the information minister in his own writings later said, I was there. He didn't everyone in the room was surprised, except Hitler just didn't let the moment pass. He took charge of the moment, and he used it to regulate. So you don't have to go down the conspiracy road with the history of the Reichstag fire. It was an event, it was an iconic event, and Hitler used the moment to convince the German people, we must these people are a danger; we must take the steps here to protect ourselves against them. And he used all kinds of regulation. Now, that's the history of Germany.
The reason why we say and the reason why I demanded that my children go to the not my little ones obviously but my older one. When we were down the week of 8/28 down in Washington, I told my two oldest daughters, you go to the Holocaust museum. You go this week. I'm only requiring you to do one thing and it's that: You go to the Holocaust museum. They have been before, and it's not a pleasant experience. I didn't have to explain it to them. They just said, yes, Dad, okay. And they did. And the reason they know why I say that is because I take seriously the promise, never forget. But that's not remember the names of the people. That's not remember this or remember that. It is remember how it started. Because it's meaningless.
For instance, we read the names of all of the people that died in the World Trade Center. We read the names. And every year we mark and we say remember the names. I'm sorry, and I don't mean this to be an offensive way because every single person that lost their lives is a tragedy. 3,000 Americans lost their lives on that day. But it diminishes, it diminishes their death to only remember their names. We must remember their names, we must remember their stories, we must remember their families, but we must remember what led us to that day. It was our blindness. It was our unwillingness to look at the truth. It was our unwillingness to see the enemies that were in plain sight! It was our unwillingness to think out of the box. Americans could not understand. We could not fathom somebody taking a 747 and flying it into a building. We couldn't think of that. That's unthinkable.
Well, what was unthinkable at 8:00 in the morning on that beautiful Tuesday was not unthinkable by 11:00. The World Trade Centers coming down and being rubble, not unthinkable by 11:00 in the morning. Completely absurd at 8:00.
To remember means look, nobody comes to you as a storm trooper. Do you think a guy dressed up in a uniform on Day Number 1 with a Skull and Crossbones on his hat who says, "I'm going to round up all the Jews, I'm going to put them in gas chambers, in ovens and we're going to burn them all up. We're going to round people up, we're going to build concentration camps that will just be I mean, if you could see the oh, if you could see the piles of bodies that we're going to create. Hey, vote for me." Nobody would vote for that person! Because people are not evil. People are good. They don't want to believe.
How can you possibly have the gas chambers and the crematoriums in towns in Germany without people knowing? It's very easy. People guys, may I ask you: Have you ever avoided going to the doctor because you think something's really wrong? I just did it for six months, for six months I didn't go to the doctors until I have no feeling in my fingertips anymore and I finally was like, okay, I better go to the doctor. Because I knew it was something bad. I avoided it. That's human nature. To remember means you remember the signs, you remember what because they don't by the time they show up in the black uniform with the Skull and Crossbones on the hat, it's too late. And then you have dishonored the memory of all those who have died before. They did die in vain. Be very alert and learn history and remember.