GLENN: We have the new theme from the Lawrence O'Donnell show.
GLENN: He was basically calling GOP GOP's Michael Steele a minstrel that was
just dancing for his master. So I think this should actually be the new theme.
Can we we should just, we should start it here for the for NBC. You know,
Lawrence, why don't you just send Michael Steele a pair of white gloves,
seriously. Man, if Lawrence could just dress Michael Steele up as a lawn jockey,
wouldn't that be great? You'd use that, maybe you'd just make that Lawrence, why
don't you just make that into your logo of your show. You just have Michael
Steele, you know, in the little corner of the for your logo. Just, that would be
I don't think that would be racist at all to say.
STU: Wouldn't be racist. I just it would crowd out the masturbation theme a
little bit, and that's an issue.
GLENN: Okay, stop. You know, the interesting thing here is I'm going to continue
to torture him because that is exactly what the left does. I don't think that
Lawrence O'Donnell is a racist, I don't think he meant that it was a minstrel
show. I don't think he meant that reference at all, but they would never, ever
give that credit to anyone else. Ever. Ever.
PAT: Nobody on the right would ever get the benefit of the doubt.
MSNBC’s O’Donnell to Steele: ‘Mr. Chairman, I Sincerely Apologize’
GLENN: No. And he immediately came out and
he apologized and said I didn't mean it that way, blah, blah blah. And what
would they do? They would continue to say, it doesn't matter; I know what's in
his heart. So Larry, we know what's in your heart. You're an evil, evil racist,
STU: And he did actually apologize, Pat?
GLENN: Yeah, he did.
PAT: Yeah, he did.
GLENN: But he only apologized after he had to.
PAT: Well, he got a call immediately, he talks about this, and he even plays we
have the audio.
GLENN: Oh, you do?
PAT: Yeah, if you want to hear it.
GLENN: But if we play it, only Lawrence O'Donnell has heard this happened on the
GLENN: Only Lawrence O'Donnell heard this.
STU: Assuming he wasn't wearing noise cancelling headphones.
GLENN: He may have.
STU: If he was, then no one heard it.
GLENN: Yeah, he may have. All right. Go ahead.
VOICE: We actually prerecorded the interview with Michael Steele a few hours
before the show. So he did not have a chance to hear those words in that
GLENN: Wait, you mean the words of when he called him a minstrel, just dancing
for his masters?
STU: This is great. He pretapes the interview, then talks tough in the intro
like he's this big tough guy.
GLENN: Sarah, what would be an appropriate song to lead the Lawrence O'Donnell
show every night? Do you have any, any suggestions at all?
GLENN: Huh, all right. This would be an interesting selection. Go ahead.
O'DONNELL: At 10:00 p.m. he called me and left this voice mail.
STEELE: Hey, this is Chairman Michael Steele calling. I wanted to touch bases
with you and follow up on the interview yesterday. First, the disappointment
that you would refer to me in effect as a slave to the RNC by referring to the
RNC and the, you know, leadership of this party as my mastor
GLENN: Hold on just a second, just a little just a little Al Jolson for
Lawrence. Hey, Larry, we all love going back to 1930 whatever, when race
relations were the way apparently you want them to be. All right, go ahead,
STEELE: I'm not really appreciated, you know. I've had to put up with that crap
my entire political life, you know. Really disappointed in your reference there
and would appreciate a correction to the record because you can imagine if, umm,
the RNC referred to Barack Obama as a, you know, a slave to the Democratic Party
or more appropriately as you put it
GLENN: A minstrel dancer.
STEELE: you know, the Democratic Party is masters to Barack Obama, you would be
hitting the roof on the air. So I think we need to check that.
O'DONNELL: I called him back immediately and apologized for using the word that
he found offensive. Those of us who are not descended from slaves can never know
the full impact of the word "Master" in the ears of an African American man.
Michael Steele told me, quote, sort of stung. He could not have been more
gracious and forgiving. He also told me, quote, the interview was a lot of fun;
I loved our give and take; I will be back on the show. I invited him on the show
tonight so that I could apologize to him directly in front of everyone who had
seen the interview. He said that wasn't necessary and that the apology on the
phone was more than anyone else had done who had sleighted him in the past. He
shared with me a bitter memory about a congressman who four years ago in the
heat of a campaign publicly accused Steele of slavishly reporting the Republican
PAT: Oh, boy.
O'DONNELL: Michael Steele is still waiting for a personal apology on that one.
GLENN: Oh, boy.
O'DONNELL: As to the rewrite, what I should have said is
O'DONNELL: as the first congressional election during his party chairmanship
approaches, Michael Steele is dancing as fast as he can trying to charm
independent voters and tea partyers
GLENN: Hold on just a second.
O'DONNELL: while never forgetting.
GLENN: Hold on just a second. So he should still use the dancing minstrel thing.
He's still a dancing minstrel. Charming people. Okay, all right, Larry. I think
you've learned your lesson. Yes, go ahead.
O'DONNELL: His job title, chairman of the Republican National Committee.
PAT: All right.
STU: By the way, who
GLENN: Turn this up. This is the best part.
GLENN: Now, Lawrence, Lawrence O'Donnell talks about the slavishly the reference
there. Can you help us out with that?
STU: Yeah, there was a congressman who called Michael Steele, said he was
slavishly supporting the Republican Party, and that was a completely racist mark
by Republican Steny Hoyer who came out and really
PAT: Steny Hoyer's a Democrat.
STU: You say these things over the line, Pat. Don't defend him because he's a
PAT: No, I'm not.
STU: Steny Hoyer, he shouldn't have said it.
PAT: He's not a Republican.
STU: Steny Hoyer?
PAT: He's the majority leader in the House for the Democrats.
PAT: Yeah, currently the majority leader.
GLENN: Hang on just a second. I'm wondering if Lawrence O'Donnell thinks that...
thinks that maybe Michael Steele could dance and do this, the whistling thing?
That's pretty cool. I'd vote for any candidate.
GLENN: That was you, Pat?
PAT: Yeah. But I wasn't dancing at the same time.
GLENN: Wow. What candidate do you want me to vote for?
PAT: Christine O'Donnell?
GLENN: She wants to ban she wants to ban masturbation.
PAT: I know. That's because it's evil, but I want you to vote for her anyway.
GLENN: How are you going to have the masturbation police come in? I heard it on
the Lawrence O'Donnell show.
PAT: They are going to break down doors all over the country.
GLENN: And you're for that?
PAT: And just shoot people.
GLENN: And you're for that?
PAT: Of course I'm for that.
GLENN: Are you a Fabian socialist?
PAT: No, but I'm just, I'm a person who's got moral values.
GLENN: So I don't understand the connection there. You're just for anybody with
PAT: I'm just for anybody who is doing something that evil to be shot dead.
GLENN: Huh, really?
GLENN: I didn't know that.
PAT: Yeah. It's in the Bible. I'm still in the Bible here. I'm still in the
STU: Thank you, Jeremiah, for that.
GLENN: I appreciate that.
GLENN: When you said it was in the Bible, I thought it was like that other guy
that wanted to make sure that your wife only answers to you in Florida, you
know, that Grayson is losing to. You know.
STU: That's right.
PAT: Yeah, by what, seven points?
PAT: Seven points.
GLENN: Does he even need to have his name on the ballot or can it just be Allan
Grayson: The other person.
GLENN: The other person, not Allan Grayson.
STU: You know when you're an incumbent and you're rocketing up to 36% from your
own constituency, you are a good you are doing well.
PAT: On fire.
STU: You're doing well.
GLENN: By the way, MSNBC, I don't know if the rights to this music still
available. I mean-- but you should check into them for the Lawrence O'Donnell
show. But they're also doing something else very special. Can we play the
Declaration of Forward, their new ad campaign. And listen to this.
(Ad campaign playing)
GLENN: They're showing all pictures of...
VOICE: We hold these truths to be self evident.
GLENN: Yes, what are they?
VOICE: That all men and women have certain unalienable rights.
GLENN: Given by who?
VOICE: Pursuit of happiness.
GLENN: Yes, but who gave them?
VOICE: And the freedom to believe that while history has gotten us this far...
our best days are still ahead.
GLENN: Yes. Yes?
VOICE: We are the United States of "come as you are."
VOICE: Our differences are what unite us. So starting today maybe ideas that
advance our country, no matter who or where they come from.
GLENN: Oh, even communism?
PAT: As long as they come from progressives. Lean Forward.
GLENN: Lean Forward.
STU: Who is that an ad for?
GLENN: MSNBC. That is their new ad campaign, it's called Lean Forward.
STU: They intentionally did that?
GLENN: Yes, it is the Declaration of Forward is what they're calling it and, you
know, that all men have certain inalienable rights.
PAT: They just do.
GLENN: Created equal.
PAT: They just do.
GLENN: They just do.
GLENN: And our differences are what unite us.
STU: You are missing the part where they corrected the Founding Fathers, though,
because the stupid racist, hating Founding Fathers were just men.
GLENN: Can we use it for a stupid racist hating kind of people?
STU: We probably do, yeah.
GLENN: Oh, here it is.
STU: I hear it now.
GLENN: That's like Lawrence O'Donnell, the bigot?
STU: No, they said men and women are created equal because the hateful Founding
Fathers left out the women.
PAT: Yeah, because they hated all women.
STU: And they correct them by getting rid of that stupid creator part and we
didn't need that.
PAT: That's only for superstitious people.
GLENN: Lean Forward. We can make progress. Ah, okay, all right.
GLENN: Well, thank you, MSNBC, and go masturbation.
Our sponsor this half hour
STU: That's another slogan possibility.
GLENN: It is, it is.
STU: There's a lot there.
GLENN: Lean Forward... and masturbate.
GLENN: Can I tell you something? Jesus would be very disappointed in my
broadcast today and so would Gandhi.
STU: But they would be laughing at least.
GLENN: Yeah. You no. No, they wouldn't.
STU: They wouldn't find it amusing as us.
[NOTE: Transcript may have been edited to enhance readability - audio
archive includes full segment as it was originally aired]