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GLENN: Now, there is something that the media missed over the weekend that I find fascinating.
PAT: What? The media missed something?
GLENN: The media missed something.
PAT: Hard to believe.
GLENN: On the Jon Stewart rally which, by the way, I thought was an absolute I mean, it was a high school production. It was a high school production, the comedy. And even Jon Stewart. I mean, he said it from stage several times. This didn't work. I mean, it was really bad. Colbert, I thought there were a couple of things
PAT: When he was off stage
GLENN: It was good.
PAT: Everything went pretty well.
GLENN: Yeah. When Jon Stewart was just talking, I thought, okay, this is going to go into you know, this will be good. And then Colbert would come out and it was awful. It was embarrassing.
PAT: It was.
GLENN: I was embarrassed not for Colbert.
PAT: Train wreck.
GLENN: It was beyond it. I was embarrassed for Jon Stewart because he's better than that. And the music was great. I mean, they had really great musical guests and everything else. And the message that Jon Stewart had after the concert was good. I mean, it was very similar to what I said. Just in different, you know, obviously different language. I framed mine in God, but we're better people than what we're allowing ourselves to become. Let's stop being used by, you know, red and blue. And so that was, you know, basically his message. And I think it was a success for him. I think if he wouldn't have given that message, it would have been jump the shark. I think it was jump the shark for Colbert. I don't think Colbert ever recovers from that. Just awful. No, it really was.
STU: It was that bad? I mean
PAT: It really was.
GLENN: You didn't see it?
PAT: Stu, you've got to watch it. It was really
PAT: It was painful to watch at times.
GLENN: It was awful.
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STU: It was interesting because when we were at the rally, there was a couple of times he said some sort of you know, there wasn't much comedy in our rally obviously but you said a couple of things that were funny and I remember thinking this is a tough convenient now oar comedy. It takes a long time for the voice to get there, it takes
PAT: It wasn't that, though.
GLENN: No, it wasn't that.
PAT: Because it translated fine on TV. You know, good comedy translates on TV.
STU: Sure, yeah, yeah.
PAT: It doesn't at the venue necessarily very but on TV if you are watching it
GLENN: It was awful.
PAT: There was nothing anywhere near approaching anything funny.
GLENN: It was awful.
STU: By Colbert?
GLENN: I really was no, by both of them. When they were both on stage.
PAT: When they were together, it was just a train wreck.
GLENN: They did a song that was, you know, I'm more American than you.
PAT: It was horrible.
GLENN: I mean it was high school I'm not kidding you, it was high school talent show stuff. It was awful.
PAT: We're like, these guys have like 70 writers between them?
PAT: This is what you got?
GLENN: It's really I mean, look, I can give somebody kudos. When they do a good job, they do a good job. Jon Stewart, you know, I could nitpick and say he doesn't notice the division that he causes. He just gets away, he gets a pass because he's doing COM did I and yet everybody takes my comedy out of context?
GLENN: It's the same stuff. I could nitpick. But his message was good in the end. And he was good. And the musical guests were good. The production value was good. That thing cost him $5 million had to cost them $5 million. If it cost them a dime, it cost them $5 million, you know, so it was good. The comedy, the actual show was awful. I was praying
PAT: It was.
GLENN: I was praying for the second coming of Christ. I'm like, look, this must be the Tribulation; Christ is coming. Because it was awful.
STU: But the message was good.
GLENN: The message was good. The message and Jon Stewart, much to in his defense, he knew it. He said it on stage.
PAT: Any good comedian would know that.
GLENN: Yeah, we felt bad for him because we're like, he knows. You could tell he knows. It's not working. He just wants to stop right now. Let's stop doing so much damage to our careers.
PAT: He did.
GLENN: He did.
PAT: You could tell. Seriously, yeah.
GLENN: But, you know, his message was good. However, with that being said, one of the things that they did was
PAT: What did you think of the message?
GLENN: It was good.
PAT: It was good? Okay.
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GLENN: What they did that the media missed was they brought Yusuf Islam on stage. Now, do you know what that is?
STU: It's Cat Stevens?
GLENN: Cat Stevens. Cat Stevens did Peace Train. And then he went Muslim. Which, I don't have a problem, you go Muslim. But they brought on Yusuf Islam. Now, you'll notice here in the introduction, something is missing in the introduction. Here it is.
VOICE: We'll do the trick that could express some emotions that are difficult for us to express with words. Ladies and gentlemen, there's a very special person that I have asked to come here today and he has traveled an awfully long way to sing a song especially for you. You knew him as Cat Stevens.
GLENN: Okay, nobody in the audience knows Cat Stevens.
VOICE: His melodies have inspired millions of us to be better people. Ladies and gentlemen, Joseph, or as it is also pronounced, Yusuf.
GLENN: Yusuf what, Yusuf who? He's not Madonna.
PAT: Not anymore, that's for sure.
GLENN: He's Yusuf Islam. Okay. And that is just and maybe he just got I don't know. Maybe he forgot that his last name was Islam and he thought he was Madonna, or Elvis. I don't know. But that was a little odd. But here's the problem with Yusuf Islam. He's been on a no fly list. Now, you can say that it was for this or for that. But here's the truth in Yusuf Islam's own words: When Salman Rushdie had a fatwa on him because he wrote the Satanic Verses, a book, Yusuf Islam wanted him killed. In his own words this is from the BBC if I'm not mistaken, back in the day. Listen to Yusuf Islam.
GLENN: This is the interviewer.
VOICE: by taking their food between sunrise and sunset.
PAT: Now, he's setting up the question he's about to ask to Yusuf Islam who's part of this panel.
VOICE: You've completed your fourth prayer of the day. Time for supper? You go to eat at a little hallow restaurant near your Islamic center in Islington. As you're halfway through your meal, you suddenly recognize a man at a nearby table. He is an author. His name is Salman Rushdie. What do you do?
STEVENS: Depends on my mood that evening. I may concentrate more on my meal, I may concentrate on them. I can't answer that very clearly.
VOICE: You don't think that this man deserves to die?
STEVENS: Who? Salman Rushdie? Yes, yes.
PAT: Yes, he does.
VOICE: And do you have a duty to be his executioner?
STEVENS: No, not necessarily, unless we were in an Islamic state and I was ordered, say, by the judge or by the authority to carry out such an act, yes.
VOICE: Yes. Gets on the front page of the Independent. Weeks later nothing has happened. The book is still in stock. Behold, come to you and say we want to hold another demonstration, march to the town hall. This time we're going to burn an effigy. An effigy of the author. Is that all right?
STEVENS: We are going to be questioning the motives because it
PAT: This is a police officer now in England answering this question.
GLENN: But listen to Yusuf's answer about burning an effigy.
VOICE: We're going to peacefully club the effigy to death?
STEVENS: I would be looking at the demonstrations itself. I would be looking what a position has been
GLENN: So now we're going to burn it or club it.
VOICE: Would you go to a demonstration where you knew that an effigy was going to be burned?
VOICE: I would have hoped it would be the real thing but, actually, no, if it's just an effigy, I don't think I would be that moved to go.
GLENN: So there's your Peace Train, holy roller.