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STU: Glenn wanted this audio. This is that number, Glenn, you were talking
about, with the millions of jobs that they're fooling with constantly. This is
an example of it. Monica Crowley is talking to Bill Press who completely
butchers the stat 25 different ways but even the correct way is not accurate.
But here's the audio.
VOICE: "Excuse me. You have a very chronically high unemployment rate. You have
a president who looked like right after the trillion dollar stimulus he checked
out on the jobs issue. When you talk about compromise, there's nothing in this
man's character or political makeup to suggest moderation."
VOICE: "You can't ignore it. You may want to ignore it."
VOICE: "He's created more than a trillion dollars to no effect."
VOICE: "He created more jobs than George Bush did in eight years."
STU: More jobs in 20 months.
GLENN: He says 2.3 million jobs created.
PAT: No, he said 3.2. That's the created or saved nonsense.
GLENN: So let's go through it. And, by the way, that contrail, definitely not a
rocket that was launched, it was a paper airplane that a whale ingested and then
shot out of its blow hole. Anyway, go ahead.
PAT: Wow, that's cool.
STU: Here's the actual numbers. 3.2 million jobs he's created since he took
office. According to the BLS Household Survey, there are 137.8 million total
workers in January of 2001 when Bush took over.
STU: When he left, there was 142.2 million workers. That's an increase, an
increase of 4.4 million.
PAT: 4.4 million increase.
STU: So Obama took office with that number of 142.2 million. Currently, we're at
139.1 million. That is a 3.1 million job decrease.
PAT: That sounds like less. That's a decrease in jobs.
STU: Since he was --
PAT: Since he came into office.
STU: Three million decrease versus a 4.4 million job increase.
GLENN: Where is the 3.2 million jobs
PAT: Created or saved. Add those in.
STU: Could be saved.
GLENN: Give me -- so where is the --
STU: So the stat he's trying to talk about, which he's inaccurately talking
about, is this claim by progressives that in 2010 Obama has created more jobs in
the private sector than Bush did throughout his entire eight years. To unfold
that statistic, what you have to do is ignore all of 2009. In fact, you have to
ignore every month that he's lost jobs. You just ignore those up until the
beginning of 2010. Then you start including Obama as being responsible in 2010.
And you take all of that and add it up. Now, so you take only the gains from the
Obama Administration and then you look at the gains and the losses of the Bush
Administration, and if you compare those two numbers, you still don't get there.
You have to go to the private sector instead and you also have to go to the
establishment survey instead of the household survey. So if you could just do
all of those things then you can get close to that number. But at that point
you've just twisted -- what value is there.
GLENN: Here's the thing -- there's no reason, seriously, is there more?
STU: No, you're right. There is no reason to keep going.
GLENN: There's no reason to keep going on it. There's no reason, because when we
were first starting to go into Van Jones. I've told this story before. But it's
important to repeat now. When we first started to go into Van Jones, we had so
much information on Van Jones. I have stuff that will melt your eyes on Van
Jones. But I don't know if I have it in context. I don't know if I have it
completely right. This guy's been scrubbed. Who scrubbed him? Soros. So you
don't know. And we thought do we present this or not? Pat and I both went home
and we both prayed on it and so did Joe. The next day we all came in and we all
had the same feeling. One way or another we all came to the same thing: Not
enemies of mine, enemies of his. Van Jones is an enemy of the rights of God. God
gave rights. So God will take care of it. God will take care of it. All we have
to do is stick to the facts. You don't need to argue. You don't need to bash.
Nothing. Don't go out on a limb. They will destroy themselves. And every single
time it's happened. They're destroying themselves. The media is destroying
themselves. Do you really think that MSNBC or NBC will survive this? Do you
think they'll survive it? If Obama, if this thing comes apart and sanity rules,
MSNBC and NBC are over, because they chose sides. They chose sides. Do you
really think that the American people are going to listen to someone saying, are
you kidding me? He's created more jobs and he's been better for the average
person than George Bush was when people are having a hard time finding a job,
when there's 20 million people unemployed or underemployed in this nation. At
some point the lies and the propaganda don't work. That's why they need strife
and violence. Did you see what happened in London? Did you see what's happening
in London today? They're rioting. They're burning on the campuses because
they're saying we have to raise tuition. First of all, the last thing we have to
raise is tuition. That has increased more in cost than our healthcare has. And
the government is right in with it. They're adding pressure. That's all they're
doing is adding pressure. So the last thing we need is a raise in tuition costs.
STU: What precedent do you have, though, of keeping interest rates artificially
low and loaning money to people to buy things causing a bubble? I don't
understand. What possible precedent is there for that sort of activity? Is that
not exactly that? What's happening with colleges? They give you these
ridiculously low --
GLENN: But we were asleep. We were asleep. Maybe it's just me and I'm living in
a dream world, but I don't think I am. Americans are not stupid. Please, trust
in what Thomas Jefferson said. The American people will get it wrong. But
eventually they will wake up and they'll figure it out. They're figuring it out.
And the more that these lies are put on top of each other, and on top of each
other, the more they'll be exposed. Now, so you know, people will harden their
positions. And that's the real danger. Because that's what gets people to just
kill other people. They won't even listen anymore. They just are running on
blind hatred. And we're not at that point. We are with some, but we're not at
that point with the vast, vast majority of the left or the right. We must be
different. We must know that in the end love wins and hate causes others to
kill. And we must not -- we must remain open-minded. We must keep our minds open
and nimble and understand that we don't know all the ins and outs yet. What we
used to believe two years ago, many of us no longer believe. So what are we
going to believe two years from now? I don't know. Scares the hell out of me to
think what I'm going to believe in two years from now. Look at all of us. Stu,
two years ago you would have said, correct me if I'm wrong, what you believe
today is crazy. Would you not?
STU: Yeah, at least some of it, sure.
GLENN: Not all of it. You still have the basic fundamentals of where you were.
But you would have said -- if I would have told you, Stu, you're going to
believe these things in two years, this and this and this, pick them whatever
they are, you would have said never, I'll never go down that road.
STU: Far more things are possible than I would have admitted to two years ago.