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GLENN: Holy cow. We have now new audio from Bill Ayers on the WikiLeaks. Do
you have it? This is from
PAT: Yeah, I didn't think it was going already but it is.
GLENN: This is from
TheBlaze.com. It will be posted in a few minutes. This is an
exclusive, I believe from TheBlaze.com right now. It is Bill Ayers talking about WikiLeaks. In it he does not denounce violence of the weather underground. He
compares WikiLeaks to the Weather Underground and, in fact, at one point he's a
little indignant that the radio host tries to imply that he denounces violence.
Here it is.
VOICE: In all of your interviews, especially, you know, around the election, you
always had to open up by denouncing the violence inflicted by the Weather
Underground and what we were wondering, which never got talked about, is what
actually drove you guys during that era? What drove these activists that you
knew to such extreme measures?
AYERS: I'm let me just start by saying I'm not certain I understood the
beginning of your question. You said always denounced the violence of the
VOICE: Well, yeah. It seemed like, it seemed like you always
AYERS: I don't remember that.
VOICE: Well, it seemed like you always had to open up by being like it was very,
you know, regrettable and so forth.
AYERS: I don't believe I ever said it's regrettable, but so
PAT: I don't think he has, either.
AYERS: I'll tell you I'll answer your question but I don't quite agree with the
way you set it up because actually what I've consistently, including in
everything I've written, is that there is no question that the Weather
Underground crossed, you know, lines of legality and I sometimes say we crossed
lines of common sense in certain ways, but I never denounce what we did. And the
reason is because in the context of those times and what was going on
‘I Never Denounced’ W.U. Violence: Ayers Compares Weather Underground to
GLENN: The ends justify the means.
AYERS: I actually think that we were very restrained, and I've always thought
that, and I still think it. So but what drove us to it? Well, I would say this:
That I was one simple way to say it is in a story. I was first arrested opposing
the war in Vietnam in 1965.
GLENN: You are hearing Bill Ayers, brand audio.
AYERS: At that point, something like 80% of Americans supported the war,
something like 10, 15% opposed the war. Over the next three years activism
became much more intense, much more public. I participated in a lot of it. A lot
of organizing went on against the war. I think the most violent force then and
even more violent today is the U.S. Government. Do I think what we did was
brilliant? Not really. Do I think it was horrendous? Absolutely not. You compare
6,000 people in one week being murdered by my government to, you know, an
escalated piece of vandalism against a military computer inside the Pentagon,
there's no comparison. And to kind of focus on the Weather Underground as this
violent, unbelievably out of control, I think it reminds me, if you put it in
today's context, here we have WikiLeaks describing, you know, revealing all the
incredible things going on. The real assault on democracy by our government in a
systematic way. And how does the news media cover it? Oh, my gosh, it's leaking,
it's dishonest. Who's dishonest in this picture? Who's the liar in this picture?
Who's the force for oppression and exploitation? Well, in my view if you look at
the Sixties and you look at the Seventies, the Weather Underground was not only
restrained, we were temperate, we were not particularly violent. We destroyed
GLENN: Can you stop for a second? I just said this, I looked at Pat when I'm
listening to him and I'm saying, this is all set up. This is a setup. This
Julian Assange thing, when did we know he was coming out with things?
PAT: Was it August?
GLENN: I think it was a little before August.
PAT: Maybe, maybe before that.
STU: Well, he had the war stuff over the summer and then it's been more recent.
GLENN: So we knew. Why did he wait until now? Does anybody know?
PAT: Christmas Gift for the left?
GLENN: Why did he wait until now?
PAT: Stocking stuffer?
GLENN: Why? Why? Why would you wait on that? Why would you sit on that stuff?
STU: I think I've heard him I could be wrong on this but I think he wanted
separation to some degree.
STU: From the other stuff that he released, the war stuff, which is why he's
supposedly trickling it out now instead of just releasing it all at once, have
more impact. I don't know if you buy that, but that's been something tossed
GLENN: I just find it, I find it really interesting. Listen. Bill Ayers, no
matter what he says, is a friend of Barack Obama and Barack Obama's allies. They
may not be close friends but they know each other. They worked in the same damn
building one door away. They were on the same board. They lived in the same
neighborhood. They know each other. They're friends. I'm not saying that they're
having, you know, nacho parties and watching football games on the weekend, but
they are friends. Bill Ayers, without a shadow of a doubt, is friends with many
people surrounding this president.
Now, Bill Ayers is now coming out now, listen. Because what's happening here? We
are taking down this regime, if you will. Well, who's in charge? Who's in
charge? Barack Obama, right? Well, if you take down this regime, wouldn't you be
taking down Barack Obama? Or are we just taking down America? Because, as I told
you before, they are building a structure and they need to have the structure
completed before it collapses. I've told you they are preparing. They have. The
only piece left is the media and the military. Now, I don't know what their
military plan is, but I do know what their media plan is. Because you can find
it on The Blaze. We just played we did it for about 45 minutes today, playing
the audio. Listen to the commissioner of the FCC. He wants to control television
and the characters on television.
The only thing left is the media and the military. I know what they are planning
on doing in the media, and that happens December 20th or 21st? The FCC goes
against the wishes of congress and against federal judges and they are going to
do Internet, what do you call it?
PAT: Net neutrality.
GLENN: Net neutrality through, if you remember I said the most dangerous man in
America is Cass Sunstein, our regulatory czar. He controls and writes all the
regulations. Once you make congress irrelevant, it's all about regulations and
paperwork. So what are they doing on December 20th? They are changing the
federal regulations on the Internet. They will regulate it through the FCC. Cass
Sunstein. We will show you, you can read about it more on TheBlaze.com about the
military and what is happening currently with the military. The military has
been doing military exercises and we are tracking all of this stuff down and we
are going to do probably an hour special on it tomorrow night. But all of the
pieces are in place. So Barack Obama doesn't collapse in the system. The people
remember, bottom up, cause chaos, get people to march in the streets. Cause
chaos. Cause a, what was it Soros says in Step Number 3, what he did to all the
other nations? You cause distrust of the government. And you get people to march
out in the streets. You cause collapse and the people want it to stop, and they
will cry out. And that's when the top comes down that coordinated the bottom
riots. This is Czechoslovakia 1948. This is America 2011. Bottom up, top down.
Turn it inside out. Their own words they are saying these things now. You just
have to believe that there was somebody that would be willing to do this. Here
is Bill Ayers. It just screams coordination to me. Here is Bill Ayers saying
that the Weather Underground is the same as WikiLeaks. It's the same, their
goals are the same. You have the communists go to NZpatriot.com today and look
at the list of the communist parties all around the world that have come out and
said, yes, we're behind WikiLeaks. Why? Chaos.
Do you remember the show I did three, four months ago and I had the whole
spectrum and I had anarchists and communists. One side was communist and the
other side was anarchists. Well, what do the anarchists have in common? Why
would the communists be fueling the anarchists? Why would they do it? Because
they know that anarchy leads to people crying out and saying stop it, just make
it go away. Bring sanity. They are going to collapse this whole damn world. They
are going to collapse the whole damn world.
So you know, this isn't a WikiLeaks is doing this. He was arrested in Great
Britain. This is not an American problem. This is why I've said to you that
they're so far beyond what you thought, what I thought and I will tell you now
and I haven't told this story before. I have had one moment of real fear, real
fear, and it was the moment that I found buried in a bill that passed under
George W. Bush pieces of this FCC regulation. It's when I knew they were
building a structure and I knew they were way ahead because this piece of this
FCC structure made no sense by itself. It was buried in another bill. A
researcher called me about 11:00 at night and said, Glenn, I found it. When did
it pass? Believe it or not, it passed under George W. Bush. Dear God help us. I
realize this isn't about Barack Obama. This isn't about anything. This is about
radicals that have laid in wait. What is the beginning of H. G. Wells and War of
the Worlds? That we have been studied. Eyes, envious eyes watching and studying,
laying in wait. That's when I wrote to Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin and I had been
texting each other all night and I wrote to her and I said, I am for the first
time afraid. And she called me back like at 2:00 in the morning and we were on
the phone for about an hour. And I said, Sarah, this has been in the works for a
very long time. They're way ahead. Way ahead. And this was the moment that I she
actually talked me down from the tree because this is a moment when I said just
never, never going to beat it. You're never going to beat it. And I'm not going
to be the guy I'm not going to be the guy. And she talked to me for quite a
while: You've got to stay in the game. You've got to stay in the game. She was a
real blessing to me. I don't even know if she even remembers that. I'm sure she
does. Since that time I have learned so much of, A, how far ahead they are but,
B, how to defeat them. I know how to defeat them. And the way to do it is they
think you are going to zig. You must zag. They do not the darkness will not
understand the light. It is your only cover. It is your only cover.