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GLENN: So, anyway. So, we saw Narnia and just absolutely loved it. I don't know if it's a Christmas movie. Would you consider the Narnia movies a Christmas movie? We're reading The Magician's Nephew, the Narnia series. That way we can be mocked by MSNBC when we say that, you know, we read CS Lewis for spiritual -- what was it? What was it that Sarah Palin said? She reads CS Lewis for spiritual enlightenment or something like that and the guys on MSNBC said, who reads CS Lewis for -- you're reading children's books for -- have you read The Great Divorce?
PAT: Oh, he's brilliant.
GLENN: Yeah.
PAT: Brilliant, brilliant.
GLENN: I mean, the guy -- he is really brilliant and he wrote some children's books, too, but -- but Raphe and I are reading The Magician's Nephew and it's --
PAT: Does Raphe like it? Is he getting it?
GLENN: Yeah. Like, surprisingly I keep asking him so, with a just happened here? He's, like, they're in the wood in between the worlds. What do you suppose the world -- wood between the worlds is? A place where things kind of just grow and it's kind of in between, it's not really a world in and of itself, it's just kind of like a place in between. I'm like I think that's what I'm getting out of it, too, and you're six
PAT: That's pretty good. Yeah. That's pretty good.
GLENN: I'm surprised.
PAT: Now, you said in this latest one his symbolism is really obvious, right? It kind of blows the Liam Neeson out of the --
GLENN: Liam Neeson, I just wanted to say --
PAT: And he just did the movie and he came out and said it could be mu has mad or Buddha or whatever.
GLENN: Yeah. Liam Neeson says Aslan could be anybody. It could be Buddha or it could be Muhammad no, he really couldn't. I mean, let's just look at it. Let's see. He dies. He's killed. He offers himself up as a sacrifice for the forgiveness for someone else
PAT: Right.
GLENN: I don't remember Buddha doing that and then he was the one who helped create the laws.
PAT: Uh-huh.
GLENN: To govern everything and then in this one Aslan, one of the boys -- and I don't want to give anything out, but one of the boys does something and can't forgive himself and no matter -- he tries to claw his way out of himself and this sounds really cryptic but I don't want to wreck the movie. He tries to claw himself out of this and he can't and Aslan comes and he claws him out of, you know, the boy, he gets out of this because Aslan does it and the boy says, I tried but no matter how hard I tried to make up for my mistake, no matter how hard I tried to get out of that, I couldn't do it. Only Aslan could do it. And then at the end Aslan is talking to it boys and he says -- the girls says, are we ever going to see you again and he said, well, I am in your world, too, I just have a different name.
PAT: And it's Muhammad or Buddha or --
GLENN: I was thinking Jesus.
PAT: Or Steve or Bill.
GLENN: I was thinking Jesus, Jesus.
PAT: Were you? That's because you're a Christian hater.
GLENN: Again, I said to my six year old son, we were having dinner afterwards and he said, Dad, what is Aslan's name in Lucy's world? And I said, Well, let's think about this. What happened in the first movie? He died and do you remember he died for Edmond's mistakes? Yeah. Yeah. And what happened to him? He rose again. He's Jesus!
PAT: Again, a six year old.
GLENN: A six year old. Liam Neeson can't get it but a six year old can get it.
PAT: But you get your spirituality from CS Lewis? (Laughter.).
GLENN: What a dummy!