GLENN: That's interesting. We have the latest from Fareed Zakaria. Fareed Zakaria, so you know, is a guy on television, I think CNN, and he's got a show called GPS. I don't know what -- I think it's a travel show or something. And Fareed is --
PAT: It might as well be.
STU: It would get more ratings.
PAT: It would.
GLENN: Fareed Zakaria has taken me on. Do we have the audio?
PAT: Yeah, we do.
GLENN: This is from something that I said in an offhanded comment last week.
PAT: No. Two -- I think it's two weeks ago.
STU: I believe it was last week.
PAT: Oh, it was?
STU: Potentially Monday.
GLENN: So, it was just an offhanded comment and this is -- everybody is focusing on one thing on this comment and here it is.
ZAKARIA: There are 1.57 billion Muslims worldwide. Take 10% of those Muslims and you get 157 million. That's how many Muslim terrorists Glenn Beck is suggesting there are in the world, 157 million.
PAT: 10 percent of --
ZAKARIA: -- why this wasn't receiving any media coverage.
PAT: No, he didn't.
STU: By the way, just when we're talking, because -- the reason why people aren't covering this is because it's total nonsense. Now, I know with 100% certainty that he knows, Fareed Zakaria knows that what he just said is completely a lie. He knows it's not based on nonsense. He knows the poll it's based on. He's seen the blog because he shows it later on. He knows exactly what that claim is based on.
PAT: No, we actually looked at our response to it and still offered this nonsense?
STU: Yeah. He went into it. His point was that your use of the -- he said I got you off on a technicality because I used the dictionary definition of the word. Now, when the dictionary starts becoming technicality, I don't know -- I mean, we're not 2 plus 2 equals 5, are we not?
GLENN: May I? It's the definition of is. We're talking about the definition of terrorist.
GLENN: Now, here's his point. We're talking about 10% of the population and this is, by the way, a low number to many of -- to -- according to -- give me the name of this research report, because it's the one that is used by the Huffington Post and --
PAT: World public opinion.
GLENN: Yeah. This is a very well-known and well established -- this isn't some crazy --
PAT: Some right wing poll.
GLENN: Yeah. It's not some right wing poll. This is a very stable poll and this is the one everyone uses when they're talking about terror and everything else and the numbers are much greater than 10%.
STU: If you talk about -- I was defining terrorism in many ways. If you talk about specifically supporting attacks against civilians in the United States, it ranges from 4 to 56, I think it is.
GLENN: 4 to 56% and that is --
PAT: Depending on what country you live in
STU: 10 to -- sorry. It's 10 to 39. 4 to 56 is another poll, 10 to 39%. Now, you can get higher than 10, obviously. There are some countries, there are few that you can get lower than for hard core support and not just I support it sometimes when they kill innocent civilians in the United States but I mean the bottom line is there's blatant -- higher than what you stilled all across the Muslim world.
GLENN: What he's trying to say is there is a difference between someone who actually does it and someone who actually supports it.
STU: That's true.
GLENN: Well --
STU: There's a difference.
GLENN: There is a difference.
STU: His thought is there is only -- get this -- a paltry 11,000 terror strikes last year.
PAT: 11,000. And then he goes through this ridiculous exercise of multiplying that by 100 people per -- and that only adds up to 1.1 million.
GLENN: It doesn't --
GLENN: Only 1.1 million. It only took 18 to bring down the World Trade Center and that was one of the many points. I doesn't matter -- I mean, the numbers are overwhelming. It only takes 18, but for him to go on this is completely disingenuous.
GLENN: If I said to Fareed Zakaria, Fareed, I don't -- I'm not going to kill you but I support the people who do want to kill you, am I a problem, Fareed?
GLENN: Yes, yes. I would be a problem. If you said to somebody, Hey, Glenn, I don't -- I'm not going to kill you myself, but, man, I am all in with -- I don't have a problem with anyone wanting to take bare hands and just snap your neck. Excuse me?
STU: Yeah. I'm sure he would be immediately on the air for defending you for those comments.
GLENN: Oh of course, of course. No, Glenn's not making threats. Glenn's not any trouble. I actively support, I vocally support, yeah, I think he should die. I think he should be killed. That's ridiculous.
STU: And, again, for those who have missed the previous segment on this, the definition of terrorist is someone who uses or advocates terrorism.
GLENN: That is the definition. That is the dictionary definition No. 1.
STU: Yeah, No. 1, the first one. And it's interesting dust because --
PAT: You had to look clear down to 1 to get that? What a stretch
STU: Thank you.
PAT: It's ridiculous. All of the way to 1?
GLENN: Don't you see what we're doing? Now, we're arguing about this which is nonsense. It doesn't matter how many there are. It doesn't matter. There's enough. More than 1.1 million, that's enough. That's enough. 1.1 million is enough to wipe us off the face of the earth. So, it doesn't matter what the number is and it does matter on how many people will stand up against it and vocally say no, enough is enough. That's the number that we should be talking about.
GLENN: In the meantime, we can't even as a government -- we can't even say that there is terror. We have now the Department of Homeland Security going into Wal-Mart with a video and Wal-Mart's statement is that they are going to, they are the first of many retailers that are partnering with the Department of Homeland Security. Now I have no problem if you want to say, Hey, if you see something, say something, but this is an administration that doesn't even think that terrorism is real. And why -- why is Wal-Mart partnering with the Department of Homeland Security? Wal-Mart says, well, we're trying to keep our cities safe. I understand that and I salute them for that and if you see something, say something. But what does that have to do something with if you see something in the store? What do you mean? Shoplifting? Shoplifting is -- that's a Department of Homeland Security thing? What does that mean? That's not a Federal crime. I'm sorry, but it just -- something is wrong here. Now, maybe Wal-Mart is just -- and I'm sure this is what it is, I mean, I met the people at Wal-Mart. I like the people at Wal-Mart, but I look at this Wal-Mart story and I think it is just this, most likely: Department of Homeland Security calls up and says, do you know what? Let me do it look the Department of Homeland Security does it right now, do you know what would be really nice, huh? You play a little video at the checkout, huh? I'm just saying it would be a good thing. That's all I'm saying. All I'm saying is you want to do that, huh? You want to do that now, Wal-Mart, or are you going to do that later? We can do this two ways. I've got a cannoli. We'll throw it in the car. Do you know what I'm saying? Take you for a little spin. Personally I think that was -- that's what happened and they just said, Hey, we've got a little video. Why don't you put it on the cash registers, huh? And Wal-Mart was, like, you know, that's fine. We'll just put that on the -- because it's no big deal. That's right. It's no big deal. I just think that it is opening the door to the Department of Homeland Security and I think it's a little creepy myself, 1984ish. I think it's a little creepy, but I don't necessarily think there's anything nefarious there, but I was a little disturbed -- that's just one of the first stories, do you know what I'm saying? Some of the first retailers that are going to be helping out Department of Homeland Security. Yeah. I'm a little uncomfortable with that. Leave the guns. Take the cannoli.
PAT: I'm a little uncomfortable with the accent.
STU: Yeah. I was going to say the same thing. I couldn't think of an appropriate word to describe what it was.
PAT: I guess it was an attempt at an accent, but --
PAT: No. Maybe Swedish?
STU: It could have been Swedish.
PAT: I'm not sure.
GLENN: Listen to what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Ya?
PAT: Early construction workers, 18th century? I don't know. I don't know.
STU: Not a complete loss.
GLENN: You take the holiday stolen.
PAT: It continues. It continues.
STU: It's called blow back. It's called blow back.
GLENN: That's what it is. That's what it is.