|Glenn is seen here on the Insider webcam listening patiently as Lori, the 'Pinhead Progressive', talks about the marvels of socialized everything.|
GLENN: Let me go to Lori who is in Philadelphia.
CALLER: Hey, Glenn.
GLENN: Hello, Lori.
CALLER: I have a new name for myself. I am a proud Progressive pinhead.
GLENN: Are you?
CALLER: I love it, yes.
CALLER: I have two points for you. One is --
GLENN: Wait, wait. Do we get to have a dialogue or are you going to make the two points and then hang up?
CALLER: No, no, no, no. I'm going to make the two points and then you can comment.
GLENN: Then you'll stay with me so we can have a conversation.
CALLER: Okay sure.
GLENN: Okay, good.
CALLER: And I am a listener because I like to converse with my conservative friends.
GLENN: Good for you.
CALLER: The point you made about Barack Obama, the bill, the $210 billion.
GLENN: $210 billion, yes.
CALLER: I know. Well, guess what, Glenn. If you were Tom Friedman, you would probably understand and like some of what he has to say. I believe that you as a capitalist should be investing heavily into those companies that will be so-called green collar companies.
GLENN: Oh, so it's -- wait a minute. So what you're saying is it's --
CALLER: I'm saying it's going to be economically feasible for you as a capitalist to make some money off of this.
GLENN: My gosh, can I tell you something? You are exactly right.
CALLER: I know.
GLENN: You are exactly right. You have just -- wait a minute, wait a minute. You have just developed -- oh, wait, it wasn't your idea. You've just copied exactly what Putin is doing in Russia and what they are doing in China right now. They are combining communism, socialism with capitalism.
GLENN: It is the future.
CALLER: I -- well --
GLENN: Well --
CALLER: Regardless of -- no, it's absolutely right.
GLENN: It is right, exactly what -- wait a minute. I want to make sure you understand what you're saying. What China is doing now, a giant government system, what Russia is doing, nationalizing things and giant socialist system and capitalism together is the very right thing to do.
CALLER: I am only pointing to the specific bill, the $210 billion.
GLENN: The Green Corps.
CALLER: For green collar industry.
CALLER: I believe that that is a smart investment in the future.
CALLER: And it's time that the country really get off their butts. Why did GM -- wait, let me finish.
CALLER: GM just lost, you know, a ton of money. We need to stop putting our head in the sand, and we can make it economically feasible and a profit-making industry if we all kind of just get behind it. There is no denying that this is an important way to start thinking.
GLENN: I think you're exactly right, as long as you forget that we don't have $210 billion. We're going to borrow that money from the Chinese.
CALLER: Well, okay. You may be right in that fact.
CALLER: I'm only merely saying that investing in that future is a very smart thing
GLENN: So you can't --
CALLER: And you might want to --
GLENN: Hang on, Lori. You cannot dismiss the fact that the head of the GAO, the controller of the, the comptroller of the United States, the chief bean counter, he was appointed by Reagan and then reappointed by Bill Clinton and voted in unanimously or confirmed every single time. He's the chief bean counter. Never, ever made a political statement, has come out and said by 2040 if we don't cut spending --
CALLER: I agree.
GLENN: If we don't stop -- listen to yourself, Lori.
CALLER: I agree.
GLENN: If you don't -- do you know what he said? Do you know what the end is, by 2040 what happens? By 2040 what happens?
CALLER: We're going to be under China's control.
CALLER: Well, something like that.
GLENN: No. Why don't you listen to the fact.
GLENN: This is the fact from the GAO. That by 2040 we will only have the money to pay just the interest on these loans that we currently have. So in other words, there is no Department of Transportation, there is no Department of Education, there is no Department of Defense, there is no Department of Green Corps, there's nothing left by 2040 if you don't take these programs and stop them right now.
CALLER: But Glenn, Glenn.
CALLER: When was the last time that we were in a balanced budget?
GLENN: Balanced budget? I can't tell you the last time we had a balanced budget.
CALLER: Okay. Well, you know what? You are trying to prove that I'm not making, you know, a good, good statement, but I think that what the point is that it's more -- I'm trying to make the point about the industry. I'm not trying to make a point about the spending. I agree. I do have -- wait, let me finish.
GLENN: You can't separate them!
CALLER: Wait. I believe --
GLENN: You can't separate them.
CALLER: Glenn, you're interrupting. I believe, I do believe that a smart congress and a smart White House can get their act together. I think there's been huge mistakes. You agree there's been huge spending mistakes. Just because I am a pinhead Progressive doesn't mean I think we should have big government. My second point, only --
GLENN: You are just -- wait. I'm not going to let you go. No, your second point -- Lori, you're not going to your second point. You're not going to your second point until you allow me to respond to your first one. You cannot pull that off, my friend. You say, I'm just saying that they could get their act together. I'm just talking about this industry. You cannot separate just talking about this industry and you cannot say, well, the Government could get their act together by spending an additional $210 billion. It doesn't work, Lori. You have to be consistent and that's the problem with not just Progressive pinheads but with too many people that claim they're conservatives as well. You must be consistent, period.
Now, you have a second point?
CALLER: Yes. My second point as a Progressive pinhead is that when you find a lot of obscure viewpoints about the 11-year-old, I mean, you find things that are so outrageous and --
GLENN: Oh, wait. Wait, wait, wait.
GLENN: I just want to verify.
CALLER: I'm speaking on behalf of a lot of us Progressive pinheads. You are not really speaking for us. We don't agree with that crap, either.
GLENN: Yeah, I know. I'm just -- the people I quoted a half hour ago were just good friends of the Clinton and helped her design the "It takes a village" kind of ideas that she had. They are just longtime Clinton friends and advisors, but that's --
CALLER: Okay, but you shouldn't lump -- you know as well as I do, Glenn, and I know this doesn't help your radio show, but most people are not one way or the other.
GLENN: I understand. Never said that.
CALLER: We aren't.
GLENN: I said -- Lori, what I said were people like you, don't you refuse to look at the facts. And you've already just proven this. You refuse to look at the actual facts. You want to gloss over everything. You are saying people don't actually believe that. The point of that monologue was, you don't believe in that, Democrats don't believe in that, but this is something that has been designed by the Progressive pinheads of the early 20th century that Hillary Clinton self-designates herself as. Not the pinhead part. This is who they are, and you are being lumped right in and you are just following blindly. You think you're not, but you are because you refuse to look at the facts.
Tell me about the UN resolution on the child, Lori. Do you agree with it or disagree with it?
CALLER: What? Wait. Guess what. I listen and I probably do more reading about politics than most of the people that I know. However, there is a certain point when you have to live your life and you have to -- you cannot specifically know about every fact, okay? And if we count on you to provide us with all those facts, we're only hearing one side, Glenn. We need to hear the other side.
GLENN: I understand. That's why you can watch anything on PBS, just about anything on CNN, just about anything on ABC and anything on CBS and anything on NBC and everything on MSNBC.
CALLER: And Fox.
GLENN: So there's me, there's Rush, there's Fox and then everything else. What?
CALLER: But what I'm saying is an informed person, somebody who really wants to be -- just to be informed. I'm not going to classify myself as a conservative because I like being a Progressive and I'm proud of it. However, I think it's very important for people to listen to both sides and you have to --
GLENN: Tell me the roots of the Progressive movement. Can you tell me what the first things that they did?
CALLER: I have no idea. I just --
GLENN: Wait. You're proud of it.
CALLER: But I like the name. I like the name Progressive because it's forward thinking.
GLENN: Because it says something about you. Thank you, Ms. Prius driver. Unbelievable. She has made every point. I mean, there's nothing else left to be said. "I like the name. It says something about me." Forget about all the facts.