GLENN: Let me start with Eliot Spitzer. Here's the thing with Eliot Spitzer. They're cutting a deal with the guy. Why are we cutting a deal with a guy -- "It would be a win for the Justice Department." Oh, would it now? Take out the word "Department." Is it a win for justice? The reason why he hasn't resigned yet is because they are down in Washington with all of his attorneys and they are trying to cut a deal so he doesn't spend any jail time and he doesn't lose his law license. Oh, well, that's great. That's great. That's the exact kind of attorney we need, somebody who is prosecuting prostitution rings and yet involved in prostitution rings. No, no, no, no, that's great. You know the kind of attorney we need? We need another attorney that has himself gone in and wire transferred $9,900 because he knows $10,000 will trigger all kinds of alarms due to the new terror laws. So he has $9,900 and then after he sends it, he goes back up to the teller and says, by the way, can I take my name off of that? You know that's how he got caught? That's how this whole thing started. The bank went, no, we've already sent it and you can't send it without your name. "Oh, yeah, I know, that's cool." Bank teller picks up the phone and says, "I think we got a problem here." What a dope.
We don't need this man in a courtroom unless he's, you know, he's working on the side of the prosecution -- I'm sorry, the defense. He's the defendant. Put the guy in jail. He breaks the laws, put him in jail. Shouldn't be practicing law. Shouldn't be the governor. I for one would like to have some of these guys pay for the crimes that they commit. Here's a crime that he's committed. He put the State of New York in jeopardy. He put your safety in jeopardy if you happen to be listening to us in New York. Done. Move on with your life. And you know another person, another group of people that I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt because these guys have such a hard job, but I've got to tell you I want to hear from the state troopers that were protecting this guy for the last six or eight years. I want to hear from the troopers that were sitting there -- I mean, how many meetings does this guy have with, you know, with really hot chicks in patent leather boots and fishnet stockings at 10:00 at night at his hotel? "I'm just doing some work in here." How many of those have to happen before somebody says, "You know what, he might be seeing hookers." "What, she's a budgetary expert. You know, she's blowing our budget." Uh-huh. I would like to know, and you know what? If a guy is cheating on his wife, he's a dirtbag. Great. If a guy is cheating on his wife with hookers, he's now engaging in illegal activity. If the guy is buying illegal drugs, he's engaging in illegal activity. If he's taking bribes, he's engaging in illegal activity. I mean, I'm getting to the point now where if he's a politician, he's engaging in illegal activity. You as a state trooper, you don't work for him. You work for the people of New York. If you're a secret service agent, you don't work for the President. You work for the people of the United States. You keep that man safe. You keep that man's family secrets a secret, but you don't overlook anyone who is breaking the law. And if that's your job, if that's what they ask you to do, you should quit. Have more integrity than that. Stop protecting these dirtbags if they're breaking the law. Am I wrong, Stu? You are looking at me with kind of like, I don't know if I agree with you.
STU: I mean, you have -- I guess obviously if there's anything going on that's -- I'm trying to think if there's any exceptions to that. But you don't break the law. So I mean, I would guess no. I mean, you know, you feel like probably their mentality is, "Look, I'm not getting involved with this guy's personal life, whatever he's doing, whatever," but it is -- that's the difference between people that like to bring up, you know, the cheating stuff and people cheating on their -- this guy was committing an illegal act. This is prostitution, not legal.
GLENN: Look, if you're cheating on your wife, okay. The secret service has no right, no right to say.
STU: I mean, you are a total dirtbag, you know.
GLENN: No right to say as a secret service agent anything about that. You don't leak that. You've got to keep that confidence. You don't say anything.
STU: You've got to basically --
GLENN: But if you are breaking the law, and I think their excuse will be, but then that takes us and removes us from that person. No, it doesn't. I have no problem with a cop being with me all the time. Cop can be with me, secret service can be with me, state trooper can be with me all the time in all business meetings. If I know they will keep my confidence of my family and my business, not a problem. Because I'm not breaking the law. You want to know how these people get so arrogant, you want to know how these people think they're above the law? Because they've got a cop with them all the time and they are breaking the law and the cop doesn't say anything. I mean, why wouldn't you think you're above the law? Why wouldn't you think you could get away with it?
STU: Yeah, I mean, that's true. It certainly, I think maybe there's an exception for some sort of national security concern, I mean, but hookers are never a national security concern. That's never -- I mean, it's a personal --
GLENN: National security concern.
STU: Well, you know, President Bush -- I guess illegal is such a weird word. I guess that's pretty --
GLENN: Like George Bush, if you are doing something illegal, I want them busted and I want their ass in board.
STU: Some people would argue waterboarding is illegal.
GLENN: Some people would argue but it's an argument.
STU: Right. But if you're -- so should the secret service say, -- their argument is that it's illegal. I mean, they shouldn't be reporting on that.
GLENN: It's not illegal. There's no law against it. They tried to pass it and he vetoed it. There's no law against it.
STU: Glenn, maybe I'm not pulling out the perfect example here but certainly there are things that people would disagree on whether they are illegal or not. I mean, certainly wiretapping has been another thing that's been -- they are both walking different lines there.
GLENN: Can I tell you something? Can I tell you something?
STU: Yes.
GLENN: I'm so sick and tired of the wiretapping thing.
STU: Me, too.
GLENN: I am so sick and tired of the wiretapping thing. I have had a discussion that I cannot repeat, nor would I repeat even if I was told I couldn't repeat, nor would I repeat. The wiretapping thing is very clear on what it is and if you are in Washington and you're a politician, you know exactly what it is. Believe me, the Democrats will do exactly the same thing when they're in power. Wiretapping as the way it is being done is not an issue. It is a smoke screen issue.
STU: You know I'm just trying to say that there are some things that, if there's some liberal social -- or private secret service agent who thinks that it is horrible and starts leaking it, I don't think he has --
GLENN: He doesn't have the right to do that. Look, I'm not talking about you think it's horrible, you think that maybe you think, well, this could be. I'm talking about someone breaking the law, clear, you're buying dope, you're taking dope, you're smoking deep.
STU: Yes.
GLENN: You know, whatever.
STU: Again the law's set up for a reason. It's generally not some -- it's not a suggestion. You know what I mean? We've talked about the Ten Commandments.
GLENN: And no one is above it. And no one is above it.
STU: You've got to pay attention, and you're right. Especially someone who's a secret service agent, you know, whose job is to protect not only the President or a government agent but the law.
GLENN: I want to know who these -- 70% of New Yorkers say that Spitzer should go. 22% believe he should not have to resign. Excuse me? Why? Who are you? 20% think that he shouldn't resign? Who are you? He was with hookers!
STU: Well, Glenn, it's his personal life; it doesn't affect his job performance.
GLENN: You're right. No blackmail there.
STU: Seriously that's 70% of New York? That is a pretty -- even for something like this is a high percentage. They can't agree on anything.
GLENN: Yeah, New York.
STU: And it's a Democrat. I mean, if it was Dick Cheney, I wouldn't be surprised with 70%.
GLENN: A Democrat. The Democratic governor of New York, the Democratic governor of New York.
STU: Glenn, you should be clear about, what party is he?
GLENN: He's a Democrat. He's a Democratic governor from -- that's the way it would be if he was a Republican. "The Republican governor from New York, the Republican," no, guys, he's not a Republican. That's the only thing that they haven't done in the media is say, "The Republican governor." The governor of New York. I mean, it's amazing how nobody's saying that he's a Democrat although, boy, Mark Foley, you know what party he's in?
STU: Republican? If there is that one screen shot from one of the news networks that put him up as a Democrat one time and it's used as this, like, proof that people are unfair to Democrats and it's like, you couldn't hear the word "Republican" around Mark Foley any more than you did.
GLENN: No.