Glenn Beck: 'Them'


Them: Adventures with Extremists

GLENN: 6%. There's now more people that say we didn't land on the moon -- I'm sorry, there are less people that say we didn't land on the moon than there are people who said the United States blew up the World Trade Center. Conspiracies are everywhere. The whole MexAmeriCanada thing when honestly I don't know how to explain it. I don't want to go down that road but somebody help me. Throw me a bone. Everybody is -- you know what? We are becoming quickly the opposite of E Pluribus Unum. We are starting to divide ourselves with these crazy ideas and these conspiracies and, you know, Barack Obama's preacher telling us that, you know, the white man is the problem and, you know, once the white man's gone, you'll be fine. Nobody's look at reality anymore. Nobody's even seeing -- what's happening to us and how do you survive in a world where, "Well, you know, it's the Bohemian Grove, the people who worship the owl people. You know, Henry Kissinger and George Bush and Bill Clinton, they are all in on it."

I mean, I believe that there are very, very powerful people who all think alike and who talk, you know, and get together and I don't think it's -- you know, I don't think they are worshipping the God, you know, the owl God and sacrificing people. And if I do, I don't want to be that guy.

Well, I found a book, I don't know, a couple of years ago and I read it and I just thought it was fantastic and since we've been kind of noticing that more and more conspiracies are, you know, popping up, I asked him to write the truth behind the trees infiltrating the grove. His name is Jon Ronson and he's the author of a great book called "Them." Jon from the United Kingdom, how are you, sir?

RONSON: Hey, I'm okay. How are you doing, Glenn?

GLENN: Very good. You are a journalist, right? And you are not a conspiracy nut.

RONSON: No.

GLENN: And if I remember, it's been a couple of years since I read your book. If I remember right, you kept passing this Muslim cleric on the street in the U.K. and you were like, okay, I mean, this is nuts, right?

RONSON: Yeah. Well, he lived a couple of miles away from me and he gave a big speech in Central London in about 1996 where he said he wasn't going to rest until he saw the flag of Islam flying over Downing Street and the White House. In fact, I actually thought it was kind of funny. Back then those things seemed funny. They don't seem so funny anymore. He was a guy living in north London who was determined to overthrow democracy. So I asked him if I could hang out with him for a year while he did that and that's really how this amazing adventure began.

GLENN: For a year?

RONSON: Yeah, I became -- it was kind of, for the first few months it was okay and then he said to me one day, you know, I have let you into my life, I have given you much, I would like something in return. And I said, okay. And he said, can you drive me to Office World. And so for the next six months I became his chauffeur, you know, driving him to --

GLENN: Can you drive -- for some reason I just don't see an extremist Muslim cleric saying, I've got to go to Office World, can I catch a ride with you?

RONSON: Well, Office World gives you a special prize promise, they double your money back if you use their photocopying services.

GLENN: And if I remember right, he had one good eye to look for that.

RONSON: No, that's his friend, fellow preacher.

GLENN: That's his friend.

RONSON: Yeah. They are very similar figures. They preached in the same mosque and they had a similar audience and they were pals. It was so interesting to me that, you know, he was the guy who was trying to overthrow our way of life, yet he was going to the photocopying service, you know, to offer the special prize promise. Plus, the only collection boxes he could find were these giant plastic Coca-Cola bottles. So he would collect them for hummus and these giant symbols of western period. That was kind of funny to me.

GLENN: If it wasn't so real, it would be funny.

RONSON: Yeah. Well, it was funny right up until, you know, 9/11.

GLENN: 9/11.

RONSON: Yeah.

GLENN: 7/7. The spookiest thing that happened with him was what?

RONSON: Well, there was a couple of things. One time he outed me as a Jew at a secret training program. I never told him I was Jewish and it seemed kind of weird that I was kind of chauffeuring him about. Anyway, he took me to his jihad training camp in (inaudible) airport at a place called Crowley.

GLENN: Hold on just a second. A jihad training camp right down the street from the airport.

RONSON: Yeah. It's like in a scout hut.

GLENN: Don't you guys over in the United Kingdom have, like, more cameras than all of America combined?

RONSON: Absolutely. (Inaudible). Although I lightly discovered there's a guy called Omar Bakri Mohammed who is a convicted terrorist. He was plotting to blow up some nightclubs and it said on the news that these plots began at this very same scout hut that I went to where Omar announced to all these young jihadists, he said, you know, look at me, look at me with the (inaudible) Jon, who is a Jew. And they all went (gasping). I said, well, surely it's better to be a Jew than an atheist. And I heard someone in the crowd say, "No, it isn't."

GLENN: No, really it is, I'm going to make that case but I'm going to go to the car right now. So then, Jon, so then what happened was you started there but then you started noticing that they were saying the same kinds of things that other conspiracy theorists were saying.

RONSON: Yeah, this was a big revelation to me. Others said did you know there was a shadowy cabal that was secretly ruling the world and they were calling the Bilderberg group and followers and they go to this place called Bohemian Grove and I haven't really thought much about it because I thought it was just kind of nutty conspiracy theories. But then about a year later I was in Arkansas in the Ozarks hanging out with a politically correct faction of the Ku Klux Klan.

GLENN: Politically correct.

RONSON: Yeah, this clan leader who started to become politically correct and ban the rogues and ban the hoods and ban use of the N word.

GLENN: Yeah. Did at any point did they say, "And we're here with my friend Jon who is a Jew.

RONSON: They asked me if I was a Jew but I was in the middle of the Ozark mountains surrounded by Klansmen which I think I'd be forgiven and I said no. They were having a raffle and all the prizes were things like Walter Matthau videos. It was like, the Jews were everywhere, I didn't feel so alone.

GLENN: You guys know that he's Jewish, right? I mean -- all right. So what did you find out there?

RONSON: Well, the same thing which I thought was extraordinary. They started saying, did you know that there was a secret group meeting in secret, they were called Bilderberg and they go to this place called Bohemian Grove and it just hit me that this was extraordinary that these two groups, you know, a Klan in Arkansas and a bunch of jihadists in north London would all believe these conspiracy theories that I've never heard of and so I started to take it seriously, not take it seriously that I believed that these conspiracies were true. But I again said well, you know, if these guys believe that there's a secret room, wouldn't it be kind of funny to go around the world trying to get into this, trying to find the secret room.

GLENN: And you went in to not only Bohemian Grove which we'll get into in just a second but you actually went into one of the secret rooms, right?

RONSON: Yeah, this place called the Bilderberg group which, you know, a lot of different conspiracy theorists have united and believe that it was the shadowy cabal that ruled the world. Now, it's partly the Bilderberg group's fault because, you know, they do exist and they are, you know, a powerful secretive organization of, you know, I guess you'd call them top globalists, centrist globalists, you know, who do want to wield power. They want to influence politicians and so on. And they quite often -- in the past they have denied existing. So it's kind of their own fault really that there's all these conspiracy theories around them. But I didn't think they existed and then I discovered this guy in Washington, D.C. called Jim Tucker, big Jim Tucker who dedicated his life to tracking down the Bilderberg group. So I hooked up with him. He had a lead that they were meeting in Portugal and so we flew to Portugal and just immediately we started getting chased by mysterious men in dark glasses, which was terrifying, as you can imagine.

GLENN: Okay. But you didn't, you still didn't believe in any of this stuff. Did you --

RONSON: By the time I started getting chased by these men in dark glasses, I began to believe and I completely freaked out.

GLENN: This is where the title -- this is where the title -- I'm sorry. This is where the title of the book came from. Was it at this point where your friend, "You know what, these things I don't believe but these things are starting -- and they said, you're starting to sound like "Them."

RONSON: Yeah, this was a guy who was suffering from throat cancer and he had his voice box removed. So he had to write everything down. And he wrote down, we were getting chased and playing poker in north London and said, it's all true, the conspiracy theorists are on to something. And he wrote down, you are sounding like one of them, wrote "Them" in huge letters and I thought, that's what I'll call the book.

GLENN: But things have changed and I want you that talk about your experience at the Bohemian Grove and the article you wrote for Fusion magazine.

RONSON: Sure.

GLENN: And then I want to talk to you about the new conspiracies that are coming and how people who are so -- like you found in London, we're finding here in the United States where southern extreme right wing secessionists in the South are uniting with extreme left wing secessionists in the north.

RONSON: Yes.

GLENN: And they're both saying enough of America.

RONSON: Yes.

GLENN: And there's enough of this, you know, 10% here, 5% here, 15% here of these groups that are all starting to unite and say, you know what, we should unite because we don't agree with what you say. But you know what? We agree on this thing that this just has to end. And it's starting to get really frightening.

RONSON: I agree. You know, when I wrote "Them," conspiracy theorists were still kind of, you know, minority who would live on the fringes of society and, you know, I sort of point out in "Them" that a lot of terrorists and extremists are also conspiracy theorists and if you would like, it was a piece of information that people just didn't realize. But now, post 9/11.

GLENN: It's getting worse now.

RONSON: Yeah. You know, I heard the University of Ohio did a study where they determined that I think 36% of the American public believe that 9/11 was an inside job?

GLENN: Oh, yeah. You have -- there's a study out that I reported on because Barack Obama's preacher was saying that Americans started AIDS, the CIA started AIDS and give it to African-Americans as mass genocide.

RONSON: Right.

GLENN: And I think it's 53% of African-Americans in this survey claim that part of that is true and that there is a cure for cancer but it's being held back by the rich -- I'm sorry, not a cure for cancer. Cure for AIDS but is being held back by the Government because they want the poor to all die. It's amazing.

RONSON: Right, right. Because, you know --

GLENN: Jon, I tell you what, hang on just a second. I have to take a commercial break and we'll come back. Jon Ron son is the author of "Them" and an article on the Bohemian Grove. You'll laugh out loud and you'll learn an awful lot as well. It is in Fusion magazine and you can get it at 888-Glenn-Beck or go online and order it now. Don't miss another episode of Fusion magazine, another issue. You can get it online or we send it to your house. It's a great funny magazine, entertainment and enlightenment all rolled up into one and it includes the Bohemian Grove beyond the trees, at GlennBeck.com.

Would Glenn make a better bounty hunter or a Jedi? You'll have to find out in a new episode of the Beltway Banthas Podcast, where Glenn goes deep on Star Wars with host Stephen Kent. In this 45 minute discussion, Stephen and Glenn explore the political themes of the Star Wars franchise, Darth Vader's redemption from Return of the Jedi, Glenn's earliest memories of seeing the films and even debate elements of the latest Star Wars films.

If you enjoy the pop culture and nerdy discussions that Glenn, Pat and Stu get into on the radio show, you'll love this! After you're through, you can also check out Stu Burguiere's appearance on Beltway Banthas to talk Star Wars. You can find that here.


It's never too early to start your Christmas, Hanukah, or Kwanzaa shopping. Or even birthday gift shopping. Especially if that special someone in your life is a Democrat. Because at last count, pretty much all the Democrats are now running for president. And that means there has never been a wider selection of official candidate merchandise to choose from. Whether you're into environmentalism, feminism, classism, socialism, or just plain love, there is a smorgasbord of classy items that you and yours will treasure forever... or at least until the next presidential election.

We have browsed each of the candidates' online stores, so you don't have to (it only took us three months). We have curated only the finest items from each of the Democrats running for president of the United States of America. Without further ado, here is your handy progressive gift guide – or maybe your what-not-to-gift guide.

First, the bargain basement options. Hurry! Time is running out to grab your Beto bandana, or your Delaney pack of golf balls, because at this point Stu has as much of a chance as these guys of getting the nomination.

Tom Steyer, for example – is he still in the race?


https://shop.tomsteyer.com/collections/frontpage/products/tom-2020-pattern-tee


There's way too much Tom here. That shirt's got more Toms than a Caucasian dentists' convention.

For the slightly more moderate Democrat in your life, perhaps they'd like to join the "Yang Gang"…

https://shop.yang2020.com/collections/bumper-stickers/products/yanggang-decal


Andrew Yang is a lock for Math Club president…


https://shop.yang2020.com/collections/apparel/products/math-hat


But for actual president? Well, I wouldn't make plans for how you're going to spend your $1,000-per-month Yang allowance just yet.

If you happen to be shopping for your dog, may I suggest this lovely "Dogs for Delaney" dog collar…


https://store.johndelaney.com/products/dogs-for-delaney-collar


John Delaney's definitely going to secure the canine vote with this kind of outreach. As for any human votes, that's another question entirely.

How 'bout this tastefully understated "Natural Canvas" Michael Bennet tote to remind you he's also still here?...


https://store.michaelbennet.com/michael-bennet-for-america-natural-canvas-tote/


Then again, it's a tote. So, it'll end up on the floor of your closet and you won't have it with you until that one random moment when you're out somewhere and you really need a tote bag. Just like Democrats will really wish they had a moderate when we're in the middle of the socialist nightmare of their creation.

Captain Planet himself, Jay Inslee recently dropped out of the race, but don't let that stop you from picking up what may be the greatest single item sold by anyone in this race…


https://store.jayinslee.com/elvis-the-elves-the-mystery-of-the-melting-snow-by-jay-inslee/


A children's book called Elvis & the Elves: the Mystery of the Melting Snow. Written and illustrated by Governor Jay Inslee. Talk about a whodunnit – how could that snow possibly be melting? Spoiler alert: it's because of evil, white, patriarchal capitalism. And Donald Trump.

Then there's the candidate who thinks you're a moron that can't pronounce his last name: Steve Bullock...


https://shop.stevebullock.com/collections/apparel/products/emoji-t-shirt


Get it? Bull. Lock. Oh, so that's how you say the name that sounds exactly how it's spelled.

There's another candidate who also thinks you need help pronouncing his last name…


https://store.peteforamerica.com/collections/apparel/products/boot-edge-edge-t-shirt


And he is definitely right about that. So, thank you, Pete "Boot Edge Edge." That helps.

Just outside the bargain bin section, but just barely, are candidates like Julian Castro and his "El Presidente" t-shirt…


https://store.julianforthefuture.com/julian-castro-loteria-card-white-tee/


When your last name's Castro, do you really want to go with a weird drawing of yourself as if you're a classic Latin American dictator on a postage stamp?

If you prefer a little "dark psychic forces" battling in your candidates, you'll love Marianne Williamson's "Turn Love Into a Political Force" rally sign…


https://store.marianne2020.com/collections/signs/products/love-rally-sign


"Turn Love Into a Political Force" would be an even better title for a Marianne Williamson album of 80s cover songs. And if you think I'm joking, then you haven't heard Bernie Sanders' classic 1987 folk album, We Shall Overcome. That's not a joke. Well, it is a joke, but it's also a very real thing.

Now, just a quick pause to consider the peculiar baby-wear that way too many candidates are selling…

…including Elizabeth Warren's trans-pride flag onesie. Let me get this straight – we can't force any gender on a child, because that's just cruel. But we can force a political advertisement on a baby? How do we know that baby is actually a Biden or Warren fan? The child may not even be a Democrat or a Socialist at all. That baby might self-identify as a Libertarian, or Republican, or even worse – a moderate Democrat.

Now to the premium items from the premium candidates. Elizabeth Warren – the candidate with the most honesty in her advertising…


https://shop.elizabethwarren.com/collections/apparel/products/impolite-arrogant-women-make-history-unisex-t-shirt

-AND-

https://shop.elizabethwarren.com/collections/drinkware/products/strong-american-unions-mug


Warren's merchandise reflects the woman herself – cold and humorless (watch her "This isn't funny" clip from the last debate here at the 4:27 mark). I'm sure she's really fun once you get to know her. Then again, maybe not.

Speaking of serious women, Kamala Harris wants to be president very badly for you, the people, as you can tell from her "For the People" poster…


https://store.kamalaharris.org/poster-for-the-people/


At $29.99 though, she's sure not charging "people's" prices. Of course, she might be having to pay royalties to a certain someone for riffing on their poster. Just saying.

For the race's number one socialist, there's a whole lot of capitalism going on in Bernie Sanders' campaign. He sells so many delightful items that it's hard to choose. But we did anyway. The most random item is this hundred-dollar, black, "Art of a Political Revolution – Artists for Bernie Sanders Coaches Jacket"…


https://store.berniesanders.com/collections/apparel/products/artists-for-bernie-coaches-jacket


Coaches across the land will be clamoring for this one. You know, since coaches are such a strong Bernie-socialist demographic.

If that's a little over your budget you might consider a "Feel the Bern" fanny pack, to help store all those government freebies you'll get from Bernie…


https://store.berniesanders.com/collections/apparel/products/feel-the-bern-fanny-pack


This is the only context in which you'll ever want to hear "feel the burn" and "fanny" in the same sentence.

And finally, from front-runner Joe Biden, we have this fine "Women's Fitted Biden Polo." Which is just about the best polo description ever…


https://store.joebiden.com/collections/apparel/products/biden-polo-womens-fit


It promises the kind of snug approach that Biden loves to provide women. Even when they don't ask.

This was one of the first homesteads in the area in the 1880's and was just begging to be brought back to its original glory — with a touch of modern. When we first purchased the property, it was full of old stuff without any running water, central heat or AC, so needless to say, we had a huge project ahead of us. It took some vision and a whole lot of trust, but the mess we started with seven years ago is now a place we hope the original owners would be proud of.

To restore something like this is really does take a village. It doesn't take much money to make it cozy inside, if like me you are willing to take time and gather things here and there from thrift shops and little antique shops in the middle of nowhere.

But finding the right craftsman is a different story.

Matt Jensen and his assistant Rob did this entire job from sketches I made. Because he built this in his off hours it took just over a year, but so worth the wait. It wasn't easy as it was 18"out of square. He had to build around that as the entire thing we felt would collapse. Matt just reinforced the structure and we love its imperfections.

Here are a few pictures of the process and the transformation from where we started to where we are now:

​How it was

It doesn't look like much yet, but just you wait and see!

By request a photo tour of the restored cabin. I start doing the interior design in earnest tomorrow after the show, but all of the construction guys are now done. So I mopped the floors, washed the sheets, some friends helped by washing the windows. And now the unofficial / official tour.

The Property

The views are absolutely stunning and completely peaceful.