Glenn Beck: Climate Confusion


Climate Confusion

BY ROY SPENCER

STAHL:  There's still a lot of skepticism about whether global warming is manmade.

GORE:  I don't think there's a lot.

STAHL:  Well, there's pretty impressive people like the vice president who said we don't know what causes it.

GORE:  You're talking about Dick Cheney.

STAHL:  Yeah, and others who say we don't know what causes it and why spend all this money until we really, really know.

GORE:  I think that those people are in such a tiny, tiny minority now with their point of view, they are almost like the ones who still believe that the moon landing was staged in a movie lot in Arizona and those who believe the Earth is flat.  That demeans them a little bit but it's not that far off.

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GLENN:  Just a little bit.  Roy Spencer, former senior scientist for Climate Studies at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center.  Welcome to the program, Roy.

SPENCER:  Hey, Glenn, thanks for having me.

GLENN:  As a guy who worked for NASA, won NASA's medal for scientific achievement, did we land on the moon?

SPENCER:  Well, when I left NASA six years ago, that was part of an oath I took.  So I'm really not allowed to talk about that.

SPENCER:  You would have to kill me if you told me the truth.  Well, I just want to make sure that you know as somebody who, you know, won awards for NASA and worked for NASA that the Earth is round and we did land on the moon.

SPENCER:  Well, what's funny is that Al Gore's urban legend about global warming has now extended to history because it turns out that that's a historic urban legend that mankind used to think the Earth was flat.  It turns out there really isn't any historical evidence for that.

GLENN:  It's -- you know, we just posted an article at CNN.com about big oil and Al Gore and his lies, et cetera, et cetera, and he says that we're talking about 6% of Americans that don't believe in the moon landing but only 21% believe that greenhouse gases are the biggest factor causing global warming.  That's from the New York Times.  Only 21% say this problem is caused by man, yet he makes it sound like, oh, well, that's just, there's nobody.  I mean, you've got to be crazy to not believe that man is responsible for this and yada, yada, yada.  What would you say the split is among scientists?

SPENCER:  Well, the vast majority of scientists, it's not all of them agree that we've warmed.  The big question as you are alluding to is whether -- you know, to what extent is the warming manmade versus natural and what most people don't realize is that there has never been a single scientific study published which has ruled out natural variability for our current warmth.  So I would say, you know, probably over 50% of the scientists think it's mostly manmade but that's a statement of space.  You know, this whole idea of consensus, that's a political term.  And the more we learn about climate variability now, the more I think we're realizing that the climate system isn't really that sensitive to manmade greenhouse gases which would mean that most of the warming we've seen is natural.

GLENN:  I saw you at this conference in New York and we've talked here recently at this conference on skeptics and the problem with it was is you got up to give the speech and I think what you said was really, really important but I don't know what the hell you're even talking about.  You know, you guys are coming in with real science and you were talking about the satellite data and now we have actual data to replace the made-up variables that Al Gore and the global warming people have just said, well, maybe because we don't know, we can't measure this, maybe this number is actually this.  And when you look at -- you know, when you look at the formula to make these computer models, now we actually have data.  And when you plug it in, it changes everything entirely.  Did I get it kind of right on what you were talking about?

SPENCER:  Well, yeah, kind of.  You know, obviously models, computer models are only going to put out what you program into them.  You know, they're very dependent on what you put into them.

GLENN:  Garbage in, garbage out.

SPENCER:  Right.  And what they put into them is the way they think the climate system operates.  And believe it or not, one of the major things we're learning right now is it looks like a lot of these climate scientists, the ones that are running these models, might have confused cause and effect in the climate system when they look at the climate system.  Because we watch -- we look at natural variability, you know, El Nino, La Nina, we try to figure out what's causing what.  Well, it turns out that if you mix up cause and effect, it will always look like the climate system is very sensitive to things like adding CO2.

GLENN:  And how do the new satellites, the new NASA satellite information get -- improve this?

SPENCER:  Oh, the new NASA satellites are really great.  We've got all kinds of new instruments up there now mainly on the NASA aqua and terra satellites and these are giving us all kinds of measurements related to, you know, clouds, types of clouds, temperatures, sea surface temperatures, winds, how much infrared radiation the Earth is giving off.

GLENN:  Roy, how does the average person know what to look for?  For instance, I read a story today that the Earth hasn't warmed in the last ten years, there has been no more global climate change and then they say --

SPENCER:  Well, that's one of those lies, damn lies and statistics things.  Yeah, it hasn't warmed since '98 but if you use '99 as a starting point it's warmed tremendously.  I think the most accurate thing to say statistically is it basically hasn't warmed or cooled in the last seven years.  It's been pretty flat.  And the longer we go without warming resuming, the more it's going to have to warm to catch up to what, you know, the UN is predicting and Al Gore is predicting.

GLENN:  Well, but how do we -- I mean, in the article it said, "Well, wait a minute, that's -- you can't look at it short-term like that, you can't look at it seven years."  Well, what is long term?  When do we see it and say, okay, it's real?

SPENCER:  Pick a number.  There is no number.  The longer you look, you know, the more useful your estimates of long-term change are going to be.  That's one reason why I don't like to say that we're experiencing global warming because that makes it sound like we know what's going to happen in the future.  I only say we've experienced warming in the past, at least up until about seven or six years ago because we don't know what's going to happen in the future.  It could be global warming has stopped for all we know.

GLENN:  Let me -- may I play a piece of audio for you and get your reaction?  Go ahead and play.  This is Ted Turner this week.

TURNER:  Doing it will be catastrophic.  We'll have 8 degrees, we'll be 8 degrees hotter in ten -- not 10 but in 30 or 40 years and basically none of the crops will grow.  Most of the people will have died and the rest of us will be cannibals.  Civilization will have broken down.  What the few people are left will be living in a failed state like Somalia or Sudan and living conditions will be intolerable.  The droughts will be so bad, there will be no more corn growing.

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GLENN:  I mean, you are the former senior scientist for NASA on climate studies.  Alarmist?

SPENCER:  Yeah, Mr. Turner is one of our leading global warming experts.  He probably --

GLENN:  I didn't know that.

SPENCER:  I see the forecast has now, you know, gone up to 8 to 10 degrees in only 30 years.  So that's -- man, that's really --

GLENN:  Well, 30 to 40.

SPENCER:  Yeah, 30 to 40 years.  Notice, but also later in the interview he pointed out that it's been a long time since he said something stupid.  So it could be that that's relevant.

GLENN:  Any science, any science that says anything like what he just predicted?

SPENCER:  No, not that I know of.

GLENN:  Yeah, okay.  All right.  I want to -- can you hold for just a second?  Because in your book you talk about some of the dumbest solutions that scientists have and I want to get into that here in just a second.  Climate Confusion.

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First, the bargain basement options. Hurry! Time is running out to grab your Beto bandana, or your Delaney pack of golf balls, because at this point Stu has as much of a chance as these guys of getting the nomination.

Tom Steyer, for example – is he still in the race?


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Andrew Yang is a lock for Math Club president…


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John Delaney's definitely going to secure the canine vote with this kind of outreach. As for any human votes, that's another question entirely.

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Then again, it's a tote. So, it'll end up on the floor of your closet and you won't have it with you until that one random moment when you're out somewhere and you really need a tote bag. Just like Democrats will really wish they had a moderate when we're in the middle of the socialist nightmare of their creation.

Captain Planet himself, Jay Inslee recently dropped out of the race, but don't let that stop you from picking up what may be the greatest single item sold by anyone in this race…


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When your last name's Castro, do you really want to go with a weird drawing of yourself as if you're a classic Latin American dictator on a postage stamp?

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"Turn Love Into a Political Force" would be an even better title for a Marianne Williamson album of 80s cover songs. And if you think I'm joking, then you haven't heard Bernie Sanders' classic 1987 folk album, We Shall Overcome. That's not a joke. Well, it is a joke, but it's also a very real thing.

Now, just a quick pause to consider the peculiar baby-wear that way too many candidates are selling…

…including Elizabeth Warren's trans-pride flag onesie. Let me get this straight – we can't force any gender on a child, because that's just cruel. But we can force a political advertisement on a baby? How do we know that baby is actually a Biden or Warren fan? The child may not even be a Democrat or a Socialist at all. That baby might self-identify as a Libertarian, or Republican, or even worse – a moderate Democrat.

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-AND-

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Warren's merchandise reflects the woman herself – cold and humorless (watch her "This isn't funny" clip from the last debate here at the 4:27 mark). I'm sure she's really fun once you get to know her. Then again, maybe not.

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At $29.99 though, she's sure not charging "people's" prices. Of course, she might be having to pay royalties to a certain someone for riffing on their poster. Just saying.

For the race's number one socialist, there's a whole lot of capitalism going on in Bernie Sanders' campaign. He sells so many delightful items that it's hard to choose. But we did anyway. The most random item is this hundred-dollar, black, "Art of a Political Revolution – Artists for Bernie Sanders Coaches Jacket"…


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This was one of the first homesteads in the area in the 1880's and was just begging to be brought back to its original glory — with a touch of modern. When we first purchased the property, it was full of old stuff without any running water, central heat or AC, so needless to say, we had a huge project ahead of us. It took some vision and a whole lot of trust, but the mess we started with seven years ago is now a place we hope the original owners would be proud of.

To restore something like this is really does take a village. It doesn't take much money to make it cozy inside, if like me you are willing to take time and gather things here and there from thrift shops and little antique shops in the middle of nowhere.

But finding the right craftsman is a different story.

Matt Jensen and his assistant Rob did this entire job from sketches I made. Because he built this in his off hours it took just over a year, but so worth the wait. It wasn't easy as it was 18"out of square. He had to build around that as the entire thing we felt would collapse. Matt just reinforced the structure and we love its imperfections.

Here are a few pictures of the process and the transformation from where we started to where we are now:

​How it was

It doesn't look like much yet, but just you wait and see!

By request a photo tour of the restored cabin. I start doing the interior design in earnest tomorrow after the show, but all of the construction guys are now done. So I mopped the floors, washed the sheets, some friends helped by washing the windows. And now the unofficial / official tour.

The Property

The views are absolutely stunning and completely peaceful.

The Hong Kong protesters flocking to the streets in opposition to the Chinese government have a new symbol to display their defiance: the Stars and Stripes. Upset over the looming threat to their freedom, the American flag symbolizes everything they cherish and are fighting to preserve.

But it seems our president isn't returning the love.

Trump recently doubled down on the United States' indifference to the conflict, after initially commenting that whatever happens is between Hong Kong and China alone. But he's wrong — what happens is crucial in spreading the liberal values that America wants to accompany us on the world stage. After all, "America First" doesn't mean merely focusing on our own domestic problems. It means supporting liberal democracy everywhere.

The protests have been raging on the streets since April, when the government of Hong Kong proposed an extradition bill that would have allowed them to send accused criminals to be tried in mainland China. Of course, when dealing with a communist regime, that's a terrifying prospect — and one that threatens the judicial independence of the city. Thankfully, the protesters succeeded in getting Hong Kong's leaders to suspend the bill from consideration. But everyone knew that the bill was a blatant attempt by the Chinese government to encroach on Hong Kong's autonomy. And now Hong Kong's people are demanding full-on democratic reforms to halt any similar moves in the future.

After a generation under the "one country, two systems" policy, the people of Hong Kong are accustomed to much greater political and economic freedom relative to the rest of China. For the protesters, it's about more than a single bill. Resisting Xi Jinping and the Communist Party means the survival of a liberal democracy within distance of China's totalitarian grasp — a goal that should be shared by the United States. Instead, President Trump has retreated to his administration's flawed "America First" mindset.

This is an ideal opportunity for the United States to assert our strength by supporting democratic values abroad. In his inaugural address, Trump said he wanted "friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world" while "understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their interests first." But at what point is respecting sovereignty enabling dictatorships? American interests are shaped by the principles of our founding: political freedom, free markets, and human rights. Conversely, the interests of China's Communist Party are the exact opposite. When these values come into conflict, as they have in Hong Kong, it's our responsibility to take a stand for freedom — even if those who need it aren't within our country's borders.

Of course, that's not a call for military action. Putting pressure on Hong Kong is a matter of rhetoric and positioning — vital tenets of effective diplomacy. When it comes to heavy-handed world powers, it's an approach that can really work. When the Solidarity movement began organizing against communism in Poland, President Reagan openly condemned the Soviet military's imposition of martial law. His administration's support for the pro-democracy movement helped the Polish people gain liberal reforms from the Soviet regime. Similarly, President Trump doesn't need to be overly cautious about retribution from Xi Jinping and the Chinese government. Open, strong support for democracy in Hong Kong not only advances America's governing principles, but also weakens China's brand of authoritarianism.

After creating a commission to study the role of human rights in U.S. foreign policy, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo wrote last month that the principles of our Constitution are central "not only to Americans," but to the rest of the world. He was right — putting "America First" means being the first advocate for freedom across the globe. Nothing shows the strength of our country more than when, in crucial moments of their own history, other nations find inspiration in our flag.

Let's join the people of Hong Kong in their defiance of tyranny.

Matt Liles is a writer and Young Voices contributor from Austin, Texas.