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GLENN: Have you seen Alec Baldwin on 60 Minutes? Let me ask you this question. Anybody watch 60 Minutes anymore? We tape it but I only watch it because it's a habit, like I have to watch it because I think like, oh, well, 60 Minutes, it must be some expose on how evil Republicans are." So I watch it and I don't even know why I'm watching it anymore. Is there anybody that watches 60 Minutes? Did you watch it last night, Stu?
STU: You know --
GLENN: No, you didn't.
STU: The television exploded.
STU: I was about to turn it on and there was apparently an explosive device planted inside my television.
GLENN: That happens so often at your house.
STU: And every other television all at the same time. It's obvious someone did it on purpose. I just don't know who it was.
GLENN: When's the last time you watched it? 60 Minutes?
STU: When my television didn't explode?
STU: I --
GLENN: Nothing, huh?
STU: Well, are you saying like -- because I watch sports sometimes and sometimes the TV stays on, I'm not watching it but the TV might be on. Does that --
STU: What if --
GLENN: No. So apparently Alec Baldwin was on 60 Minutes last night. I don't know why. Does he have a movie out? Is it just because he's just a cool guy? 30 Rock all of a sudden got popular, didn't it?
STU: Yeah. You know, it's one of those shows that I watched the first couple of episodes of it and they were terrible and I have --
GLENN: Now you like it?
STU: No, I --
GLENN: Oh, I never came back.
STU: I never came back and I have had several people whose opinion I actually respect tell me that it is good.
GLENN: Okay, let me ask you this question. So last night I didn't watch 60 Minutes because instead I read a book by James Kunstler. I'm reading two of his books. One is The Long Emergency and the other one is the World Made by Hand. The Long Emergency, I read about three pages and I'm like, all right, I just can't do it. The World Made by Hand is basically Jericho except it's really good. You know how Jericho was kind of like -- did you ever watch Jericho?
STU: My television exploded. That was a chemical attack on my television that night.
GLENN: So Jericho was like, it was kind of good but you were like, you know, if they really cared, if CBS cared, they would have casted better people in it, maybe a little better writing, you know. It was like... all right. So last night I'm reading the World Made By Hand which is probably not a good book for me to read. The Long Emergency is a nonfiction book about how important oil is to us and everybody goes, oh, gee, we're running down the oil; oh, gee, that's horrible, huh? Do you know what gas prices are going to be?" He says don't worry about gas prices because really gas prices are the least of your worries. When China comes online, there will be war for oil. Right now, "Oh, no war for oil." Well, get used to that because it's what runs everything in our society. It's not just like, oh, gas prices. It is the reason we have civilization today. We are not addicted to oil. Unless you want to be Little House on the Prairie, you've got to have oil. And the rest of the world has figured this out and we haven't. And for as much as we want to say alternative energy, there's just, the alternative energy that we have right now, the technology that we have or is in the pipeline is just not going to be enough for us. So he actually believes that we're going to go back to Little House on the Prairie that, you know, when China really comes online -- they've already doubled their oil consumption in the last ten years. When they really come online, when India really comes online, there's just not going to be any oil and there's going to be wars for it, et cetera, et cetera. And America he believes is going to break apart into, I think ten different regions. And so it's a happy -- I put that one down and then I decided to read his fictionized account of this called the World Made by Hand, which isn't an awful lot more cheery, but I believe it was better than Morley Safer and Alec Baldwin.
Stu, I have a gun to your head right now. I'd click it. I cock the -- pull the hammer back. There's a bullet in the chamber. Stu, World Made by Hand or Alec Baldwin and Morley Safer? And I know what you're going to say. You have to do one of them.
STU: Or I get shot? That is the other option.
GLENN: Yeah. You're going to go for the gun?
STU: Yeah. It is gun week.
GLENN: It is gun week on the Glenn Beck program. (Gunfire). I'm giving the key note address Saturday in Louisville, Kentucky for the NRA convention and so we thought we would make it gun week. Yeah! (Gunfire).
So you're going to go for the bullet to the head?
STU: I think that's the most sensible choice.
GLENN: That's probably good. I went for the World Made by Happened and actually kind of enjoying it in a dark sort of -- oh, my gosh -- sort of way. But then I got here this morning and Dan had pulled the audio from Alec Baldwin and I realized that, oh, Alec Baldwin is thinking about running for office. So it's only getting better, America. We have Alec Baldwin to hope for. Oh, I don't know if these clowns have any answers, but Alec Baldwin sure would be the answer, huh? He would be the guy that could get 'er done. That probably should be his slogan, get 'er done, Alec Baldwin. Here he is last night on 60 Minutes with Morley Safer, a guy who couldn't sound older. No, I've consulted professors and scientists and there is a global consensus, Morley Safer cannot sound older than he does in this interview.
BALDWIN: Running for office to a degree, that I might do one day?
SAFER: You think being an actor puts you under public scrutiny?
BALDWIN: If you go through the things I've gone through in the media, like this thing with my daughter.
GLENN: Stop just a second. Let me go back, in case you don't remember, the thing that he went through, the thing that he went through with his daughter. Here it is. Just a flashback memory here of Alec Baldwin and what he had to endure.
VOICE: I want to tell you something, okay, and I want to leave a message for you right now because again it's 10:30 here in New York on a Wednesday and once again, I made an [BLEEP] of myself trying to get to a phone to call you at a specific time. When the time comes for me to make the phone call, I stop whatever I'm doing and I go and I make that phone call. At 11:00 in the morning in New York and if you don't pick up the phone at 10:00 at night and you don't even have that [BLEEP] phone turned on. I want you to know something, okay? I'm tired of playing this game with you.
GLENN: Stop just a second. By the way, just want to remind you that he's talking to his daughter here. She's 11.
VOICE: I'm leaving this message with you to tell you you have insulted me for the last time. You have insulted me. You don't have the brains or the decency as a human being, I don't give a damn that you're 12 years old or 11 years old or you're a child or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in the [BLEEP] who doesn't care about what you do as far as I'm concerned. You have humiliated me for the last time with this phone. And when I come out there next week, I'm going to fly out there for the day just to straighten you out on this issue. I'm going to let you know just how disappointed in you I am and how angry I am with you that you've done this to me again. You've made me feel like [BLEEP] and you've made me feel like a fool over and over and over again. And this crap you pull on me with this [BLEEP] phone situation, that you would never dream of doing to your mother and you're doing to me constantly. And over and over again. I'm going to get on a plane or I'm going to come out there for the day and I'm going to straighten your [BLEEP] out when I see you. Do you understand me? I'm going to really make sure you get it. I'm going to turn around and I'm going to come home. So you better be ready Friday the 20th to meet with me. I'm going to let you know just how I feel about what a rude little pig you really are. You are a rude, thoughtless little pig, okay? "To replay this message."
GLENN: "To replay this message you have Audix."
Okay. So anyway, he was saying all the things that he -- all the things that he went through.
BALDWIN: There's only one thing that comes to mind, how my daughter must have felt to have this played out in public.
GLENN: Stop just a second. You know, the only thing that comes to mind is how his daughter must have felt. Well, apparently -- I don't know. Did you ask her? Are you on speaking materials anymore? Does she talk to you about feelings? Because I don't think my daughter would pick up the phone after that. She's 11. You're a thoughtless little pig. I'm flying out, oh, and I'll set you straight, you thoughtless little pig. Was she worried about -- was she really, was it -- I mean, was it like, oh, jeez, and then they ran it on Entertainment Tonight or was it maybe you that left the message that it was a problem there?
BALDWIN: The second thing I realize is you can pretty much bet everything you own that I would never leave another voice mail message for my daughter that wasn't just like something out of a Rodgers and Hammerstein score, "How are you today, my little darling," you know, whatever. I mean, you've got to really, really manage. You know what I mean? You learn.
GLENN: Stop. (Laughing). Hey, Stu, Stu, Stu. Oh, wow. I'm starting to whip my kids with a belt the other day. (Laughing). And I'm like, what are you doing playing that on TV? Can you imagine how that made her feel? So you can bet that I just use sticks now, you know? I don't ever -- I don't even walk into the house with a belt because they would beat me with a belt. You know what I'm saying? So I use sticks and sometimes drum sticks. (Laughing). Morley, it's so good to see you again.
SAFER: I've got to ask you about that notorious phone call that you made. How could you do that?
BALDWIN: You get so frustrated.
GLENN: Stop. As a dad, as a dad who has gone through this with daughters, oh, I can relate. I can relate. I can relate on so many levels and I'm sure my ex-wife can relate as well in the reverse. Oh, yes, you get frustrated.
BALDWIN: And you realize, number one, and it's wrong, it's totally wrong.
GLENN: Stop. And you realize -- I just want to say here because my attorneys and my handlers are making sure that I say it's wrong, it's totally wrong and I sound totally sincere right now.
BALDWIN: That I was speaking to somebody else when I left that message. I mean, I was pissed. I've been putting up with this for six years.
SAFER: But you weren't talking to another person. You were talking to your daughter, to a kid when you said, you thoughtless little pig.
BALDWIN: Did you ever lose your temper with your kids?
SAFER: Yeah, but --
GLENN: Yeah, stop just a second. I don't think I really -- I'm trying to think. Nope, nope, never said thoughtless little pig to my kids, nope. Never said... never really, I don't think I ever did that. Lost my temper with my kids, said some things that I regret but really never, "You little pig." Never, "Little pig, little pig, let me in." Never said any of those things.
SAFER: Nothing like that.
BALDWIN: If you are asking me do I feel bad about leaving that message? I think that goes without saying.
GLENN: Stop. Does it really? Because I don't think it does. Stu, do you think it does?
STU: I think he needs to say it.
GLENN: I think it does because it didn't really -- play that back because when it goes without saying, it doesn't sound like he felt bad about it.
STU: And none of the other things he's saying would lead you to believe.
GLENN: So it goes without saying, no, it really doesn't.
STU: You are going to have to say it, Alec.
GLENN: Go ahead and play it, please.
BALDWIN: If you are asking me do I feel bad about leaving that message, I think that goes without saying. At the same time I'm a pretty overwhelmed by the sanctimoniousness of people who say that -- I mean, I got so many phone calls from people -- wait a second. I got so many phone calls from people who seem learned and sober and together as you are.
GLENN: Right. Stop just a second. So I just want you to know, hey, you toothless hicks from West Virginia, he's not talking about you. He's talked about the learned people, with ezotic names like Barack Obama, like that, you just hate their skin color.
Anyway, he's talking about the learned, learned. So once they're learned, well, they can make any mistakes. Anyway, go ahead.
BALDWIN: Who all said to me, man, I'm glad they didn't tape some of these I said to my kids.
SAFER: As appalling what you said may be, even more appalling is that it was released by someone.
BALDWIN: That tells you what I'm dealing with.
GLENN: It does.
BALDWIN: Listen, you use words like "Appalled" and you have, and I may say so pretty judgmental tone of me.
GLENN: Stop, stop. Pretty -- if I may say so? Who are you to say that I shouldn't call my 11-year-old daughter a -- what was it, a worthless little pig, shameless little?
STU: Thoughtless little pig.
DAN: And he called her brainless earlier.
GLENN: Thoughtless little pig. Yeah, who are you to judge. Who are you to judge?
STU: Can we make sure and just point out yet again, yes, Alec, you do have to say it. It doesn't go without saying.
GLENN: Again, you don't really sound like you feel bad for saying it. You really --
BALDWIN: I think that as truly sorry as I am that that happened, to me --
GLENN: Stop, stop. I don't -- play it again because he did say there that he's truly, truly sorry.
BALDWIN: I think that as truly sorry as I am that that happened, to me it only illustrates how difficult this --
GLENN: Wait, stop. Hold it. I'm sorry, I was singing the "Truly, truly sorry" song and I missed, what did he say there? Could you do it again? Because he's truly sorry.
BALDWIN: I think that as truly sorry as I am that that happened, to me it only illustrates how difficult this --
GLENN: Stop. Hold it just a -- you know what this is? This is the Second Amendment debate, Stu. Where's the comma. Where's comma? Could you play it again? Because I don't know where the comma is. Is the comma "I'm really sorry that this happened to me," comma, but the statement is; or is it, "I'm really truly sorry that this happened," comma, but to me the problem is --
STU: There's no but in there.
GLENN: There's a comma issue there.
BALDWIN: I think as truly sorry as I am that that happened, to me it only illustrates how difficult this process has become for many, many people.
STU: Well, we are the media and he's told us that this is really our issue here, not his. So I'm going to be unfair to him and assume he meant it was -- he was sorry that it happened to him. Because that's what we do in the media, Glenn.
GLENN: Truly sorry, he's truly, truly sorry (singing).
STU: But clearly, I mean, if you really look at this case, Glenn, from Alec Baldwin, this is Morley Safer's fault apparently. He's got a judgmental tone on him.
GLENN: He does. That's what -- I never hear that judgmental tone from 60 Minutes.
GLENN: Never. I never hear them say -- well, never to a liberal. But I never hear them say things like, "But you were stealing the company blind."
GLENN: I never heard that, ever before from 60 Minutes. Usually they're cream puffs.