Glenn Beck: A frank conversation with Jon Huntsman

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GLENN: I did a show two days ago with a live studio audience and my good

friend who I'll introduce you to here in a second, and when I got off, the

producers we have I don't even know, what do we have? Twelve producers that are

in the studio, twenty producers that are in the, you know, in the control room.

And there one of the guys, all he has to do is watch the time, watch the time,

make sure that everything is right for the network. He said you know it's a good

show when I forget about the fact that there is a clock. He said, a couple of

times I got yelled at because they were like, what time? And he was like, oh,

oh, crap. He said, that's never happened to me before. And the next day the crew

came in and they said to me, if we had to archive five shows, this would be the

number one show. They said this is the most amazing show we've ever done on

television. And it is a show on self reliance, it is a show on liberating

strife, on you can make it through anything. It is also one on misunderstanding

of wealth and stuff. And the best guy I know to talk about it and is a guy who I

just made him extraordinarily uncomfortable a few minutes ago, but I he can

never say this but I can because I believe it with everything in me. He is the

only man I have ever met that I believe has the character of George Washington.

Jon Huntsman, Sr. is a good friend and mentor of mine. Welcome to the program,

Jon, how are you?

HUNTSMAN: Well, Glenn, thank you very much. I'm

GLENN: I know.

HUNTSMAN: I'm overwhelmed. I'm overwhelmed.

GLENN: Did you leave your white horse out on the

HUNTSMAN: My white horse is right by the Delaware River.

GLENN: Yeah. I know you're a big fan of George Washington as well and know the

character of the man, and I know it's something that you have strived for your

whole life is to be a man of real character. We were talking off the air a few

minutes ago, and I want you to try to address this, Jon. Jon, so you know, grew

up in a house so poor, that he had cardboard walls. He had one shirt, one pair

of shoes, right?

HUNTSMAN: Right.

GLENN: Yeah. Poverty unlike what most people understand poverty in America to be

like.

PAT: But they were Gucci shoes, I understand.

HUNTSMAN: Come on, Pat.

GLENN: And so Jon grew up, and he has seen it. Even when he was poor, his wife

told me this story, that when he was when he was poor, she would divvy out the

few dollars that they had so he could have lunch and everything else when he was

working long hours. She didn't know, and he didn't say anything to her because

he just, you know, he knew what she would say. He took that money for his lunch

and he gave it to the neighbors down the street because they were worse off than

they were. And so he made sure that they had something to eat every day and he

went without. And this is a long, long story in his life. Built Huntsman

Chemical Company which is the largest now chemical corporation privately owned

in the world and his lived his life ethically.

Jon, people are looking for answers on the country on what to do, and I think

they are looking for a magic bullet. I think they're looking for a political

solution here. As a businessman, how much trouble is the country in?

HUNTSMAN: Well, Glenn, number one, thanks thank you very much, very much for

your kindness, Glenn. You're always exceedingly thoughtful and gracious, and you

build me into an individual that sometimes I really have to pinch myself

because, you know, I have a hard time living up to your expectations, Glenn.

GLENN: Well, you wouldn't have to pinch yourself. If you just fly commercially,

TSA will do it for you now.

HUNTSMAN: Just frisk myself. But, you know, Glenn, the key right now to America

is that we have to get back to being to trust one another. I think the word you

know, faith, hope and charity, I have these great pictures in my office of

faith, hope and charity that you gave me. And I look at them every day and I

think if we could just trust one another. If our handshake was our bond, if we

had that wonderful feeling of admiration and trust. And I think our Founding

Fathers, they would disagree but they weren't disagreeable. They didn't hate

each other, they didn't want to kill each other off.

GLENN: They did, they yelled and screamed and they were passionate about their

point of view and they argued hard with each other. Thomas Jefferson and John

Adams. But they were decent men. They in the end George Washington said to them,

look, you have more in common. And they had the values and principles in common.

I don't know, Jon, if we have values and principles in common anymore.

HUNTSMAN: Well, you know, I particularly love Franklin because I went to the

University of Pennsylvania and Franklin, of course, was a founder there. And

we've studied his life, and I loved his book on pragmatism, the pragmatic nature

of man. And coming back to your point, Glenn, we do. I think the basic majority

of people listening to this program are honest, God fearing people and they just

don't understand what's going on with their government. They don't understand

this massive debt. They don't understand what's happened to them in the last few

years. But it's not their fault. I think they themselves are God fearing, fine,

wonderful people who you're honored to have as your friends. And I think that's

a vast majority of Americans today.

GLENN: So if you're looking for a political answer, I don't think there is I

mean, we have to be vigilant, we have to, you know, play our role as a citizen

and vote and everything else. But I think the problems that are coming, I Jon,

would you agree about me that I don't know if you can because of your position

in the world, but that the system is unsustainable as we have designed it today

and it needs to be reset in some form or another back to things that are true.

And faith, hope and charity, things that are the things that poor Richards used

to teach us. The common sense, you know, be thrifty and, you know, save your

money and there is there is a difference between good debt and bad debt and

honesty is the best policy, all of that stuff.

HUNTSMAN: Well, you know, we don't have a choice, Glenn. I think the history of

the world suggests if one studies the Romans and one studies the early Greeks

and one studies the history of the world, they all eventually falter if they

don't come back to the basic aspect of integrity and honor and feelings of love

one for another. I think of this great term that Churchill came up with

originally, that without integrity, nothing else counts. With integrity, nothing

else counts. And so what we're saying is in essence, we have to bring integrity

back into the lives of the nation, our leaders, our people, our individuals. And

if we don't, history has a way of changing events so that we will, and we must.

GLENN: People say it's God. It really is God. It's nature God sets up the laws

of nature and if you betray the laws of nature, after a while it doesn't matter.

He doesn't come and destroy you and punish you. You punish yourself because

you're out of the laws of nature.

HUNTSMAN: Well, precisely true, Glenn. And, you know, I've always felt badly for

people who said, well, there is no God, I don't believe in God. If someone does

not believe in a higher power and in the blessings of God and His son Jesus

Christ and I'm not trying to preach. I'm just saying my own beliefs it's sad.

It's sad to me because then what they believe in is themselves and money and

greed and how much do I get out of this world and how much can I take away from

it instead of, what can I contribute to it, what can I give to it. And you know,

I was so interested, Glenn, to see that most Americans today still give to

charity. More than any country in the world.

GLENN: I know.

HUNTSMAN: The United States of America.

GLENN: By far.

HUNTSMAN: Our citizens. And I found another interesting statistic. Those people

who make under $20,000 a year, they give an average of 4% of their income to

charity, whereas those who make more give an average of 2% to charity.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

HUNTSMAN: Isn't that interesting? So our people, good, are good, solid people,

but we have to give back into a belief in God, into a belief in each other and

into a love and sustaining of one another.

GLENN: I have to introduce you to a friend of mine, Rabbi Daniel Lapin. I don't

know if you've seen him on the TV show.

HUNTSMAN: I have, sure.

GLENN: He's been teaching me so much, and he's been trying to teach, in his own

way, the Old Testament to me in ancient Hebrew. Do you know what the word

"Love," how the word "Love" is described in ancient Hebrew? You know, the two

symbols, it takes two symbols to write the word "Love" in Hebrew. And the first

symbol is "I." The second symbol is "Give."

HUNTSMAN: Makes sense. Makes sense.

GLENN: So the definition of "Love," you can't say I love something. For

instance, I love turkey. No, you're consuming turkey.

HUNTSMAN: That's right.

GLENN: If you really want to know how God, in the only language that hasn't

really changed, Hebrew, if you want to know how God's change, you He described

love, it was "I give." So if you are giving, it is showing love. And I was

talking to Marcus Luttrell the other night about, you know, marriage and because

he just got married. And I said, when you just want to serve them, that's when

you know. That's when you know. Just, I just want to serve you. I just want to

serve.

HUNTSMAN: Charity faileth not and, you know, it's such a great privilege. In my

life it's been an interesting situation because born in a small rural town in

Idaho with nothing and then having the blessings of reaping a huge fortune and

giving it away or trying to give it away and having a lot of problems in our

life, you know. No family out there listening to this program, no matter what

their wealth is, will go through life without stumbling and falling.

Our youngest son is severely handicapped mentally. Our beautiful 44 year old

daughter died this past year, leaving seven little children. I've had cancer

four times. But you know, Glenn, God has blessed me, and I feel so honored and

so privileged in the blessings of life.

GLENN: You I have to tell you, Jon, in the last year and I'm going to go all

Gayle King/Oprah Winfrey on you here in a second. In the last year when I first

met you, I didn't know much about you. I just knew that you were a billionaire

and everything else and so I didn't know very much and I liked you immediately.

And I saw that you were a good, decent man. And as I saw your planes and your

homes and everything else, it would be very easy for me to say, wow, what a

life. Look at this. Man, wouldn't you like to be Jon Huntsman. And in many ways

my family and my friends have said that and I have said that. I mean, you know,

you lead, you lead an unbelievable life that very few humans have ever led. But

in this last year, Jon, I would never want to be you because I have learned and

that's what this show is about. I have learned the incredible cost that you have

paid not for your wealth, but you have I think for your integrity. I think there

is a cost. The opposition grows in strength, and you have handled it with such

grace and dignity. I don't envy any of your, any of your wealth. I envy your

integrity and I envy the way you've lived your life. It is remarkable,

remarkable life.

HUNTSMAN: Well, Glenn, you know, once again you've I'm overcome a bit by your

kindness, but I'm reminded when you say those things of my sweet mother. She

died very young of cancer and her mother before her died of cancer. But on my

mother's tombstone in a little Utah town are etched these words by Shakespeare:

Sweet are the uses of adversity. And I think of it so often is each of us in our

own ways, in our own hearts, in our own respective jobs or families, sometimes

we're alone, but we're going to be tested and retested by adversity and if we

can bounce back and if we can keep telling ourselves, I know I can make it, I

know I can make it. And you go out and you do something for someone else and you

try, you put your arm around them, don't feel sorry. Self pity is the worst

possible disease that can affect mankind. And if we do just the opposite, which

is love, then we have God's feelings with us at all times. And that's what

you're saying, Glenn. I mean, that's the only thing that's going to salvage this

great nation of ours is to get back to God again.

GLENN: Firm reliance on the protection of divine providence.

The Senate Judiciary Committee was set to vote on subpoenas to compel Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey and Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg to testify on alleged censorship and bias across their platforms. But that all changed when Republican committee members "expressed reservation about the maneuver," Politico reports.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who chairs Judiciary's Subcommittee on the Constitution, was definitely not one of the committee members with cold feet. On the radio program Tuesday, he told Glenn Beck that he's fighting "vociferously" to ensure Dorsey and others testify before the November 3rd election.

"Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg are both going to testify. They're are going to testify in person. They're going to testify before Election Day. That's what I think should happen," Cruz said. "That's what I'm fighting vociferously to happen. Right now, the companies are negotiating with the chairman's office to discuss terms to come voluntarily. I don't give a damn whether they come voluntarily or under subpoena. They need to testify in person and answer questions for the American people about why they are trying to steal this election, to suppress the free speech, and to censor the press."

The subpoenas would require Big Tech leaders to testify on the alleged "suppression and/or censorship" of two consecutive blockbuster stories from the New York Post. The first story was about emails that allegedly came from Hunter Biden's computer which are currently being investigated by the FBI, and the second was based on additional emails that allegedly showed communist China directly offering millions of dollars to then-Vice President Joe Biden.

"Big Tech stepped in, and they've done something they've never done before," Cruz explained. "We know that Big Tech has been censoring individual conservatives, trying to suppress conservative speech. But the step they took here is, they blocked if any individual user tried to share either of the New York Post stories, [they] were blocked ... Sharing a news story, from a major media outlet is part of democracy, part of free speech. And not only that, they blocked the New York Post itself. Right now, today, the New York Post is not being allowed to post its own damn stories on corruption. This is ridiculous. It's a threshold that's never been crossed before, of Silicon Valley oligarchs declaring the authority to determine what the press is allowed to report, and who is allowed to see it."

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If we learned nothing from the media over the past 4 years it's that colluding with a foreign entity to either win an election or for personal gain is absolutely grotesque. Well, that depends on whether you have a (D) or (R) before your name anyway. President Trump was impeached on rumor and innuendo yet Joe Biden has all but skated on his corruption up to this point.

Below is a timeline that shows the level of corruption and the lengths the Biden's went to in order to build that family's wealth and influence internationally.

2009

In 2009, Joe Biden was the brand-new Vice President and John Kerry was a U.S. Senator. Just five months after Joe was sworn in, his son Hunter, and Kerry's stepson, Christopher Heinz, formed an international private equity firm called Rosemont Capital. It had several different branches, including one called Rosemont Seneca Partners.

2010

Just nine months after Rosemont Seneca opened its doors, Hunter Biden went to China for meetings with executives from China's biggest banks, and its sovereign wealth and social security funds. That's unheard-of access for a brand-new firm. Was it just coincidence that at the same time Hunter was meeting these Chinese bigwigs, his dad was meeting with China's then-president Hu Jintao in Washington DC at a nuclear security summit?

2011

In May 2011, Joe Biden met with Chinese officials for the U.S.-China Strategic & Economic Dialogue conference in Washington. Just two weeks later, Hunter Biden went to Taiwan for meetings with the same Chinese financial giants he'd met in China in 2010, plus some new ones.

2013

By December 2013, Joe Biden was enjoying his second term as VP, and John Kerry was now Secretary of State. That's when Joe traveled to Beijing on an extended official trip and Hunter traveled with him on Air Force Two.

During their stay, Vice President Biden met with President Xi and Hunter was mostly out of sight. We don't know exactly what he was up to, but the deal finalized between Rosemont Seneca and the Bank of China just ten days after the Bidens' trip pretty much gives it away. The most powerful financial institution in China formed a joint venture with tiny Rosemont Seneca to create a giant new investment firm called Bohai Harvest RST – the "RS" stands for Rosemont Seneca.

The firm is often called "BHR" for short.

Hunter Biden was a member of the Board. Remember, the Bank of China is government-owned, which means its business is completely intertwined with the goals of the Chinese Communist Party. BHR also got the freedom to operate in the newly created Shanghai Free-Trade Zone where, over the next six years, it would use $2.5 billion of Chinese government money to invest in China, as well as in other countries, including the U.S.

During their Beijing trip, Hunter also introduced Jonathan Li to his dad. Li is Hunter's business partner – he's CEO and Director of BHR.

Hunter arranged for Joe to meet Li in the lobby of the hotel where they stayed during their Beijing trip.

2014

In 2014, one of BHR's first major investments was in the China General Nuclear Power Corporation.

CGN is a Chinese government-owned nuclear power company that sold off a stake of the company to outside investors. Problem is, CGN was under FBI investigation for paying informants in the U.S. to steal nuclear secrets.

In 2016, the FBI arrested the ringleader of this nuclear espionage, a man named Allen Ho.

When they arrested Ho, he was using a random code generator to access funds being provided to him from – where else? – the Bank of China.

Yet while this FBI probe was going on, the son of the Vice President owned a stake in the company being investigated. And even after arrests were made, Rosemont Seneca did not alter its relationship with BHR, nor did it divest from CGN, even though it was stealing U.S. nuclear secrets.

2015

In 2015, BHR partnered with the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) to buy an American company called Henniges for $600 million.

AVIC is a gigantic military contractor in China – think Lockheed Martin – that makes fighter jets, bombers and drones. BHR bought 49% of Henniges and AVIC bought 51%.

Henniges is a precision parts manufacturer specializing in anti-vibration technology. The stuff they make is known as "dual use" by the U.S. State Department, which means the technology can also have a military application.

Because of that, the deal had to be approved by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. (CFIUS) since it could have national security implications. The thing is, the American side of BHR – meaning Hunter Biden and his pals – had to know there were serious national security implications with AVIC.

The year before they formed a partnership with AVIC, the Wall Street Journal reported how AVIC stole technology related to the U.S. Air Force's F-35 stealth fighter and used it in its own stealth fighter for the Chinese.

How the Committee on Foreign Investment approved that deal remains a mystery. CFIUS does not publicly disclose any information regarding its decisions. Their findings are not publicly announced.

Interesting that China accounted for the largest share – with 74 transactions – approved by CFIUS during Obama's second term (2013-2015).

Under the umbrella of Rosemont Capital was a real estate company called Rosemont Realty. In 2015, a Chinese company called Gemini Investments bought a 75% stake in Rosemont Realty. The company was renamed Gemini Rosemont

Gemini brought $3 billion to the partnership with Rosemont, with the aim of buying "Class A institutional-quality commercial office properties in U.S. markets."

Red flag (literally) – Gemini Investments is a subsidiary of the China Ocean Shipping Company, a.k.a., "COSCO."

COSCO is a Chinese government-owned company. Its headquarters in Beijing is actually next to the headquarters of the Bank of China. COSCO is well-known for its close military ties. It's essentially a branch of the Chinese Navy.

2017

In 2017, BHR invested in Face++. That's the facial recognition phone app built by a Chinese company that is incorporated in a separate app built by the Chinese government. Police in the Xinjiang [Sin-jong] region of China use that app to keep tabs on citizens, and track and detain Uiguhr [Wee-ger] Muslims.

The app allows police easy access to data about Chinese Muslims including things like religious activity, blood type, and even the amount of electricity they use.

2018

In March 2018, a spokesman (Chris Bastardi) for Christopher Heinz (John Kerry's stepson) emailed The Hill to say that Heinz had "no operating role" in Rosemont Seneca, and that he was not involved in any of Rosemont's deals in China (which contradicts Schweizer's report in his book Secret Empires).

Chris Heinz was involved in Rosemont Capital. Rosemont Seneca was established under the same GP as Rosemont Capital, but Chris Heinz had no operating role in it. Chris and his family have no financial interest or investment in Bohai Harvest RST, he has never traveled to China, and he has never met with the firm's Chinese management team or investors.

2019

In October 2019, Hunter Biden's lawyer, George Mesires, said Hunter did not conduct any business on that 2013 trip to Beijing with his Dad.

Mesires said the timing of BHR's business license getting approved was purely coincidental because the paperwork had been submitted months before the Bidens' China trip.

According to Hunter's lawyer, the approval " was not related in any way, shape or form to Hunter's visit."

Hunter Biden finally stepped down from the BHR board last October (2019), but he DID NOT give up his 10% stake in the company.

When Bevan Cooney — the former "junior" business partner to Hunter Biden and Devon Archer — went to jail in 2019, investigative reporter and New York Times bestselling author Peter Schweizer thought he'd never gain access to the damning emails Cooney had promised. That all changed three weeks ago when Schweizer was given complete access to Cooney's gmail account.

Schweizer joined Glenn Beck on the radio program Tuesday to describe just some of the business deals revealed within these emails — like Hunter working with an alleged Russian criminal and with Chinese communists to secure their assets, or to secure one-on-one time with his dad, then-Vice President Joe Biden. And all of this new information is completely separate from the emails allegedly discovered on Hunter Biden's laptop recently reported by the New York Post.

"So, I want to make this clear. This [Cooney's emails] has nothing to do with what's on the laptop … It didn't come from [Rudy] Giuliani. It didn't come from anybody else, right?" Glenn asked Schweizer.

"That's absolutely correct," Schweizer confirmed.

He briefly explained how Cooney, a former Los Angeles nightclub owner, is currently serving a prison sentence for his involvement in a fraudulent business bond scheme with Biden and Archer. From prison, Cooney gave Schweizer written permission to access his Gmail account.

"This is really important," he noted. "We're not looking at printouts. Not looking at PDFs. We're actually in his Gmail accounts themselves, sifting through these emails. And there's a shocking amount of information about deals involving China, involving Russia, involving all sorts of things they were trying to pull off."

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The king of "No Spin" and bestselling author of "Killing Crazy Horse," Bill O'Reilly joined Glenn Beck on this week's podcast to talk about the latest developments in Joe Biden's Ukraine and China corruption scandal. Now that some of the details are finally coming out in the open, does the average Democrat care? Maybe, but the Left doesn't seem to.

O'Reilly argued there's more hatred for President Donald Trump now than in 2016, and that some people hate President Trump so much that they'd rather vote for the "senile, corrupt" Joe Biden.

"Hunter got tens of millions of dollars from Ukraine, from Russia, from China because his father was vice president. I have no doubt in my mind," O'Reilly said. "But the hatred for Donald Trump overrides that in the minds of millions of viewers. They're saying, 'You know, we'd rather have the senile corrupt guy than Trump.'"

Asked by Glenn if any other Republican running for president would be met with the same level of vitriol, O'Reilly answered, "The Left is the Left. They don't like America. The want to redo the Constitution. They want to take some of our freedoms, like the Second Amendment and the First Amendment, and change them. And they want to destroy capitalism and replace it with a big centralized government in Washington that controls the economy … but I'm talking about the folks. I have liberal friends and I say to them, 'Do you not understand that when you vote for Biden, you're voting against your own self interest?'"

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