Glenn Beck: A frank conversation with Jon Huntsman

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GLENN: I did a show two days ago with a live studio audience and my good

friend who I'll introduce you to here in a second, and when I got off, the

producers we have I don't even know, what do we have? Twelve producers that are

in the studio, twenty producers that are in the, you know, in the control room.

And there one of the guys, all he has to do is watch the time, watch the time,

make sure that everything is right for the network. He said you know it's a good

show when I forget about the fact that there is a clock. He said, a couple of

times I got yelled at because they were like, what time? And he was like, oh,

oh, crap. He said, that's never happened to me before. And the next day the crew

came in and they said to me, if we had to archive five shows, this would be the

number one show. They said this is the most amazing show we've ever done on

television. And it is a show on self reliance, it is a show on liberating

strife, on you can make it through anything. It is also one on misunderstanding

of wealth and stuff. And the best guy I know to talk about it and is a guy who I

just made him extraordinarily uncomfortable a few minutes ago, but I he can

never say this but I can because I believe it with everything in me. He is the

only man I have ever met that I believe has the character of George Washington.

Jon Huntsman, Sr. is a good friend and mentor of mine. Welcome to the program,

Jon, how are you?

HUNTSMAN: Well, Glenn, thank you very much. I'm

GLENN: I know.

HUNTSMAN: I'm overwhelmed. I'm overwhelmed.

GLENN: Did you leave your white horse out on the

HUNTSMAN: My white horse is right by the Delaware River.

GLENN: Yeah. I know you're a big fan of George Washington as well and know the

character of the man, and I know it's something that you have strived for your

whole life is to be a man of real character. We were talking off the air a few

minutes ago, and I want you to try to address this, Jon. Jon, so you know, grew

up in a house so poor, that he had cardboard walls. He had one shirt, one pair

of shoes, right?

HUNTSMAN: Right.

GLENN: Yeah. Poverty unlike what most people understand poverty in America to be

like.

PAT: But they were Gucci shoes, I understand.

HUNTSMAN: Come on, Pat.

GLENN: And so Jon grew up, and he has seen it. Even when he was poor, his wife

told me this story, that when he was when he was poor, she would divvy out the

few dollars that they had so he could have lunch and everything else when he was

working long hours. She didn't know, and he didn't say anything to her because

he just, you know, he knew what she would say. He took that money for his lunch

and he gave it to the neighbors down the street because they were worse off than

they were. And so he made sure that they had something to eat every day and he

went without. And this is a long, long story in his life. Built Huntsman

Chemical Company which is the largest now chemical corporation privately owned

in the world and his lived his life ethically.

Jon, people are looking for answers on the country on what to do, and I think

they are looking for a magic bullet. I think they're looking for a political

solution here. As a businessman, how much trouble is the country in?

HUNTSMAN: Well, Glenn, number one, thanks thank you very much, very much for

your kindness, Glenn. You're always exceedingly thoughtful and gracious, and you

build me into an individual that sometimes I really have to pinch myself

because, you know, I have a hard time living up to your expectations, Glenn.

GLENN: Well, you wouldn't have to pinch yourself. If you just fly commercially,

TSA will do it for you now.

HUNTSMAN: Just frisk myself. But, you know, Glenn, the key right now to America

is that we have to get back to being to trust one another. I think the word you

know, faith, hope and charity, I have these great pictures in my office of

faith, hope and charity that you gave me. And I look at them every day and I

think if we could just trust one another. If our handshake was our bond, if we

had that wonderful feeling of admiration and trust. And I think our Founding

Fathers, they would disagree but they weren't disagreeable. They didn't hate

each other, they didn't want to kill each other off.

GLENN: They did, they yelled and screamed and they were passionate about their

point of view and they argued hard with each other. Thomas Jefferson and John

Adams. But they were decent men. They in the end George Washington said to them,

look, you have more in common. And they had the values and principles in common.

I don't know, Jon, if we have values and principles in common anymore.

HUNTSMAN: Well, you know, I particularly love Franklin because I went to the

University of Pennsylvania and Franklin, of course, was a founder there. And

we've studied his life, and I loved his book on pragmatism, the pragmatic nature

of man. And coming back to your point, Glenn, we do. I think the basic majority

of people listening to this program are honest, God fearing people and they just

don't understand what's going on with their government. They don't understand

this massive debt. They don't understand what's happened to them in the last few

years. But it's not their fault. I think they themselves are God fearing, fine,

wonderful people who you're honored to have as your friends. And I think that's

a vast majority of Americans today.

GLENN: So if you're looking for a political answer, I don't think there is I

mean, we have to be vigilant, we have to, you know, play our role as a citizen

and vote and everything else. But I think the problems that are coming, I Jon,

would you agree about me that I don't know if you can because of your position

in the world, but that the system is unsustainable as we have designed it today

and it needs to be reset in some form or another back to things that are true.

And faith, hope and charity, things that are the things that poor Richards used

to teach us. The common sense, you know, be thrifty and, you know, save your

money and there is there is a difference between good debt and bad debt and

honesty is the best policy, all of that stuff.

HUNTSMAN: Well, you know, we don't have a choice, Glenn. I think the history of

the world suggests if one studies the Romans and one studies the early Greeks

and one studies the history of the world, they all eventually falter if they

don't come back to the basic aspect of integrity and honor and feelings of love

one for another. I think of this great term that Churchill came up with

originally, that without integrity, nothing else counts. With integrity, nothing

else counts. And so what we're saying is in essence, we have to bring integrity

back into the lives of the nation, our leaders, our people, our individuals. And

if we don't, history has a way of changing events so that we will, and we must.

GLENN: People say it's God. It really is God. It's nature God sets up the laws

of nature and if you betray the laws of nature, after a while it doesn't matter.

He doesn't come and destroy you and punish you. You punish yourself because

you're out of the laws of nature.

HUNTSMAN: Well, precisely true, Glenn. And, you know, I've always felt badly for

people who said, well, there is no God, I don't believe in God. If someone does

not believe in a higher power and in the blessings of God and His son Jesus

Christ and I'm not trying to preach. I'm just saying my own beliefs it's sad.

It's sad to me because then what they believe in is themselves and money and

greed and how much do I get out of this world and how much can I take away from

it instead of, what can I contribute to it, what can I give to it. And you know,

I was so interested, Glenn, to see that most Americans today still give to

charity. More than any country in the world.

GLENN: I know.

HUNTSMAN: The United States of America.

GLENN: By far.

HUNTSMAN: Our citizens. And I found another interesting statistic. Those people

who make under $20,000 a year, they give an average of 4% of their income to

charity, whereas those who make more give an average of 2% to charity.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

HUNTSMAN: Isn't that interesting? So our people, good, are good, solid people,

but we have to give back into a belief in God, into a belief in each other and

into a love and sustaining of one another.

GLENN: I have to introduce you to a friend of mine, Rabbi Daniel Lapin. I don't

know if you've seen him on the TV show.

HUNTSMAN: I have, sure.

GLENN: He's been teaching me so much, and he's been trying to teach, in his own

way, the Old Testament to me in ancient Hebrew. Do you know what the word

"Love," how the word "Love" is described in ancient Hebrew? You know, the two

symbols, it takes two symbols to write the word "Love" in Hebrew. And the first

symbol is "I." The second symbol is "Give."

HUNTSMAN: Makes sense. Makes sense.

GLENN: So the definition of "Love," you can't say I love something. For

instance, I love turkey. No, you're consuming turkey.

HUNTSMAN: That's right.

GLENN: If you really want to know how God, in the only language that hasn't

really changed, Hebrew, if you want to know how God's change, you He described

love, it was "I give." So if you are giving, it is showing love. And I was

talking to Marcus Luttrell the other night about, you know, marriage and because

he just got married. And I said, when you just want to serve them, that's when

you know. That's when you know. Just, I just want to serve you. I just want to

serve.

HUNTSMAN: Charity faileth not and, you know, it's such a great privilege. In my

life it's been an interesting situation because born in a small rural town in

Idaho with nothing and then having the blessings of reaping a huge fortune and

giving it away or trying to give it away and having a lot of problems in our

life, you know. No family out there listening to this program, no matter what

their wealth is, will go through life without stumbling and falling.

Our youngest son is severely handicapped mentally. Our beautiful 44 year old

daughter died this past year, leaving seven little children. I've had cancer

four times. But you know, Glenn, God has blessed me, and I feel so honored and

so privileged in the blessings of life.

GLENN: You I have to tell you, Jon, in the last year and I'm going to go all

Gayle King/Oprah Winfrey on you here in a second. In the last year when I first

met you, I didn't know much about you. I just knew that you were a billionaire

and everything else and so I didn't know very much and I liked you immediately.

And I saw that you were a good, decent man. And as I saw your planes and your

homes and everything else, it would be very easy for me to say, wow, what a

life. Look at this. Man, wouldn't you like to be Jon Huntsman. And in many ways

my family and my friends have said that and I have said that. I mean, you know,

you lead, you lead an unbelievable life that very few humans have ever led. But

in this last year, Jon, I would never want to be you because I have learned and

that's what this show is about. I have learned the incredible cost that you have

paid not for your wealth, but you have I think for your integrity. I think there

is a cost. The opposition grows in strength, and you have handled it with such

grace and dignity. I don't envy any of your, any of your wealth. I envy your

integrity and I envy the way you've lived your life. It is remarkable,

remarkable life.

HUNTSMAN: Well, Glenn, you know, once again you've I'm overcome a bit by your

kindness, but I'm reminded when you say those things of my sweet mother. She

died very young of cancer and her mother before her died of cancer. But on my

mother's tombstone in a little Utah town are etched these words by Shakespeare:

Sweet are the uses of adversity. And I think of it so often is each of us in our

own ways, in our own hearts, in our own respective jobs or families, sometimes

we're alone, but we're going to be tested and retested by adversity and if we

can bounce back and if we can keep telling ourselves, I know I can make it, I

know I can make it. And you go out and you do something for someone else and you

try, you put your arm around them, don't feel sorry. Self pity is the worst

possible disease that can affect mankind. And if we do just the opposite, which

is love, then we have God's feelings with us at all times. And that's what

you're saying, Glenn. I mean, that's the only thing that's going to salvage this

great nation of ours is to get back to God again.

GLENN: Firm reliance on the protection of divine providence.

America has always been the land of the free. But as the line fades between the socialist, woke Left, and the Democratic Party that controls our government, are we diving headfirst into Marxism?

On his BlazeTV exclusive show, Glenn Beck spoke with Li Schoolland, who grew up under Mao's cultural revolution in China, and never did she think she would see the same warning signs in America. But now, she has a horrifying warning for us all.

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Earlier this year, Coca-Cola became the poster child for how a corporation could shove leftist ideologies onto its consumers. The company suspended advertising on Facebook in a push to censor former President Donald Trump, published a manifesto about racial equity, and demanded all legal teams working for Coke meet certain diversity quotas.

But now, after Trump, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tx.), Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), and many other conservative voices called for a boycott of the company's products, Coca-Cola appears to be shifting directions.

The Washington Examiner reported that the company issued a conciliatory statement after conspicuously failing to appear on a published list of hundreds of corporations and individuals that signed a statement denouncing the Georgia voting bill.

"We believe the best way to make progress now is for everyone to come together and listen respectfully, share concerns, and collaborate on a path forward. We remained open and productive conversations with advocacy groups and lawmakers who may have differing views," the company said. "It's time to find common ground. In the end, we all want the same thing – free and fair elections, the cornerstone of our democracy."

Then last week, Coca-Cola Co.'s new general counsel, Monica Howard Douglas, told members of the company's global legal team that the diversity initiative announced by her predecessor, Bradley Gayton, is "taking a pause for now." Gayton resigned unexpectedly from the position on April 21, after only eight months on the job, to serve as a strategic consultant to Chairman and CEO James Quincey.

"Why is Coca-Cola 'taking a pause' on all of these? Because you have been standing up," Glenn Beck said on the radio program Monday. "You and others have been standing up. Your voice, it's the power of one. Your voice makes a difference."

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This week on "The Glenn Beck Podcast," civil rights activist and Woodson Center founder Bob Woodson joined Glenn to call out the leftists in the "race grievance industry," like the Rev. Al Sharpton and Black Lives Matter, Inc., who, he says, are "profiting off the misery of their people."

Woodson lived through the appalling segregation laws of the last century and has a much different message about what it means to be "oppressed" than the so-called "anti-racist" activists today.

Woodson said he believes the real struggle for impoverished minority communities "is not racial." He argued that leftists "at the top" derive "moral authority" by claiming to represent "so called marginalized groups," while they prosper at the expense of those "at the bottom."

"There's nothing worse than self-flagellating guilty white people and rich, angry black people who profit off the misery of their people," Woodson said.

"I call what Sharpton and some of those are doing is worse than bigotry. It's treason. It's moral treason against their own people," he added. "The only time you hear from them is when a white police officer kills a black person, which happens maybe 20 or 21 times a year, but 6,000 blacks are killed each year by other blacks. So, in other words, their message is black lives only matter when taken by someone white, which means you are betraying the black community when you turn your back on 20 children that are slaughtered and you don't march in that community and demand that those killers be turned over to the police."

'The problem is not racial," Woodson asserted. "The problem is the challenge of upward mobility. Any time you generalize about a group of people, blacks, whites, Native American, and then you try to apply remedies, it always benefits those at the top at the expense of those at the bottom. ... It's a bait and switch game where you're using the demographics of the worst of these, to get resources that helps the best of these, or those who are prospering at the top. So, if I was the president, I would say an end to the race grievance business, that America should concentrate on the moral and spiritual free fall that is consuming people at the bottom."

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Following President Joe Biden's first joint address to Congress, Glenn Beck joined fellow BlazeTV host and author of the new book, "American Marxism," Mark Levin to expose what they called the "Liar-In-Chief's" radical plans for our country and to explain why the far Left's proposals and programs are really a "frontal attack" on our Constitution, our country, and our way of life.

"Substantively, this is a frontal attack on our Constitutional system of limited government. It is a frontal attack on our capitalist system. He's basically throwing out all the bromides for the radical left groups that now form the base of the modern Democrat Party. And I make the case that ... this is Marxist bullcrap in its broadest sense," Levin stated.

"Here we are, a country now where one man can get up in the middle of the night and make a list of everything he wants to do to the country," he added, speaking figuratively. "It's like an unreality where we're living in separate worlds ... the whole thing is a fraud."

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