RADIODecember 11, 2023

Anti-Trump media IGNORES the ACTUAL 'dictator' threat

The Left has ramped up its crusade to paint former president Donald Trump as a dictator wannabe. In a recent op-ed in the Washington Post, writer Robert Kagan attempted to lay out a "solution" to this alleged problem. And apparently, it involves rallying around Nikki Haley. But Glenn has a few issues with Kagan's argument. For example, Glenn argues, the real "dictator" the Left should fear is the Deep State, not Donald Trump: "It is the biggest violation of individual rights and the Constitution in the history of our country. And that should be frightening to both Left and Right."

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GLENN: So Robert Kagan wrote an op-ed. I just want to read it to you. In an essay I wrote last week, I painted a grim picture of the prospects for a dictatorship in the United States.

Well, some readers were unhappy that I didn't offer a solution.

What follows is an attempt at one. And if it seems like a long shot, it is. Because our options today are harder and fewer, because we passed up so many better and easier alternatives in the past.

So, in other words, it's like, hey, we should cut the budget now. Before we don't have any options left.

Is that what you're saying, Robert?

I want to make sure. Nor was it for a lack of knowing what needed to get done. It wouldn't have taken a miracle for Republicans to unite around a single non-Trump candidate in 2016, or for ten more Republican senators to vote to convict Donald Trump in his second impeachment trial.

Got it?

The problem has never been knowing what to do. It's been doing it.

In the past, stopping Trump has required people taking risks, and making sacrifices, that they didn't want to make.

Whether out of selfishness, father or ambition.

Or the fact that they thought they were right. You know, that does exist.

I just want to take a moment here. And point out that some did. When they that thought Trump was going to be, you know, everything that I guess you would want him to be. Some of us did speak out. And you know what happened? We were proven wrong by the facts. Now, others out of selfishness, fear, spiritual, political, or historic blindness, or simply because they benefit from business as usual, or perhaps they think it's true, they still to this day, remain in denial.

Those Never Trumpers.

And, you know, many times, it's not even because it's a conscious choice. It's the result of mass delusion.

Cognitive grooming. Or self-imposed ignorance.

Usually. Now, some people don't like Donald Trump. Some people don't like the way he handles things.

However, most people will agree, if it wasn't Donald Trump, wow!

He's a lot better than this last guy.

Huh?

Now, he goes on. Today, the challenges are even greater. But there's little evidence that the people we need to rise to the indication, are any more likely to do so, than they have for the past eight years. Here's several things people could do to save the country, but most certainly won't do.

Because they selfishly refuse to put their own ambitions at risk, to save our democracy.

It's not a democracy! Know the difference. The first step is to consolidate all of the anti-Trump forces into the Republican Party behind a single candidate.

And right now, it is obvious, that that candidate should be Nikki Haley.

And not because she's pro-Ukraine. Definitely not that. Did I say that out loud?

Definitely not that. But because she's clearly the most capable politician, among the best remaining candidates. And the performer with a real chance. However slim, of challenging Trump.

Okay. Now, let me ask you this:

Well, first of all. Let me point out. She's not the obvious candidate, for most Republicans. She's the obvious candidate for 19 percent of the Republicans. That's the latest poll.

The problem that Nikki has, that Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis do not have. Is that they are standing up for what people, the vast majority of Republicans, actually believe.

They have also both proven themselves as the advisory of the Deep State. And the end of politics, as usual, in the G.O.P.

So the real numbers of Trump supporters, at this time, is Trump plus DeSantis.

You fail to recognize that.

He goes.

All the money and endorsement should shift to hers, as quickly as possible. Yes. Ron DeSantis is likely too selfish and ambitious to drop out of the race.

Really? Or he thinks he's rate.

But if everybody else does and the remaining money and support all flow to Haley, he will quickly become irrelevant.

Now, I'm wondering if this is why the Democrats are beginning to back Nikki Haley's campaign. Will they continue to back that campaign, or is that just for the primary?

It won't be enough, however, to rally the forces behinds Haley. Even if she were to get every vote that is now spread among the other Trump candidates. And she won't. It won't be close to enough to challenge Trump.

Why? Why?

Until now, she's been gathering support at the expense of other non-Trump candidates.

To make a serious run for the nomination, she'll also have to cut into the more 50 percent of the party that now seem solidly behind Trump.

Okay. The only way she could do this, is if she was the nominee. But even then, I'm not sure of those, that have been mocked, feel they've been lied to.

Ignored by the G.O.P. establishment.

All of those people -- again, Trump plus DeSantis, that's probably about 70 percent.

I don't know if any of those people would vote for somebody who even had the hint of establishment. Or someone, you guys wanted.

See, this is the real problem.

50 to 72 percent of Republicans, know what is happening isn't right.

We know that our spending is out of control.

And we know that the G.O.P. was part of it. Is part of it.

We know that these wars will never end.

If we leave it up to the parties and military-industrial complex. They will never end.

And the G.O.P. is part of it. We know that Washington is on the take. Not just Joe Biden and the Democrats. Although, that's a pretty stunning case.

But many of the G.O.P. leaders as well. We know that last or right. Bush, Clinton, or Biden.

If you're a globalist, you can get away with murder.

If you're not, look out, because others may be plotting to murder you. Seventy plus percent of Republicans, know that Trump is now, and this is no exaggeration.

The most investigated man in all of human history. And this is what you've got? To stop him, they result to victimless crime.

Meaning, he inflated his worth for a loan. At Deutsche Bank.

Really? When does Deutsche Bank become this little innocent victim?

By the way, Deutsche Bank testified, they weren't a victim in this.

They knew that. Russia, Clinton, well, Russia. Clinton actually started. The NSA, CIA ran it. The Deep state executed that whole thing.

Then Ukraine, and if you want to go to January 6th, there seems to be mounting evidence now, that hmm. That isn't all that there is.

The left did an incredible job keeping this quiet for as long as they could.

But the truth will always set you free.

Meanwhile, actual money, in the millions, has gone into the hands of our president, and family.

And they're not hearing anything about that.

By the way, that 70 percent, I think would be open to a candidate, to another candidate.

If other people were treated the way, that you treat Donald Trump.

Or better yet, you treat Donald Trump, like you treat everyone else.

For some reason, those who see what the FBI, NSA. Deep State have done to Donald Trump.

And is currently doing under this administration.

Is the biggest violation of individual rights. And the Constitution, in the history of our country.

And that should be frightening to both left and right.

And even those who are politically agnostic.

Yet, those people are called fascists. While those who champion illegal wiretapping, silencing free speech.

Now with new cognitive security, they silence dissent, and work to destroy those who disagree. And literally cognitive security.

Brainwash. And those people are somehow called by you, the defenders of democracy?

Well, I mean, perhaps they are. As democracy always end with a strong man.

But that's why we have a republic. But when those elected represent the people over and over again.

When those people come in, they're elected to represent the people. Over their own gain and interests.

When they don't look for anything, but their own gain, and their own interests, people look for somebody who will listen and act in their children's behalf.

But if the power that is in Washington, that movement, if it crushes those people, history shows us, that the cycle and the pattern repeat, until a strong man is found. And most Americans, and I would say at least 70 percent of Republicans and 70 percent of independents and maybe -- maybe polls show 60 percent of Democrats? Don't want a strong man. On either side.

Now, he continues. The Trump supporters will fall roughly into three categories.

The great majority are just completely committed to what the former New Jersey Governor Christie Todd Whitman has called, the cult of Trump.

And they are out of reach for Haley.

Another smaller group has no problem with Trump. So long as he can beat President Biden and the Democrats next year.

Oh, it's kind of like you, having no problem voting for a guy you know is incapable of running the -- the country.

Just because it's Donald Trump. I know it's so different, isn't it?

By the way, it's not a cult. A cult is brainwashed. Trump supporters, many of them only see the reality they're living in.

They see clearly, what those on the left refuse to see.

And they see clearly, the things that most, if not all elite Never Trumpers will never admit to seeing.

This faction has undoubtedly been reassured by polls that say Trump can win, so the -- so the possibility that Haley can also beat Biden is irrelevant to them.

They prefer Trump, and there's no reason for them to rethink their position. So long as Trump remains clearly electable. Wow, you know what, this paragraph really reveals who the author is.

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Wow. This -- this faction, he writes, is undoubtedly reassured by polls that say Trump can win. So the possibility that Haley can also beat bide citizen irrelevant to them.

They prefer Trump. And there's no reason for them to rethink their position. So long as Trump remains clearly electable.

Wow. So what you're saying, unless we can come up with a crime, we can convict him of.

This is your problem, on the left.

There is no difference between causation, and correlation.

In the case of Trump. Only getting stronger, every time, the left charges him with another bogus crime.

I mean, honestly, the media -- you know, should have learned this in 2016.

Would have been better if you just ignored him.

But you can't help yourself. Which only makes him stronger, as -- as -- as you keep saying, he's got to be stopped.

For what?

For what?

Stopped for what. Because fascism is already here.

It's why you can smear in the press, with the help of government agencies.

It's why you only want PC judges to hear your case against Trump.

It's why you have to go to social media to get them to silence anyone who disagrees with you.

It's fascism.

And, by the way, you're telling us, you fear him the most.

Any American who is awake may not even like Trump's style or what he's done. But if you fear him, well, he's the right guy for me, huh?

He's the right guy for people who believe in fairness or the Bill of Rights.

Now, the problem with this, is your lefty school teacher unions. And your lefty universities. Have so corrupted the education regarding the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

To further your goal of a communist, fascist, or some sort of totalitarian state. That those who are on the right, many of us, who are now fighting for the opposite of you, may not even be fighting for liberty and justice from all.

Because they don't even know what that means. You failed to teach the Bill of Rights.

And how it's supposed to apply, to all people.

Finally, he says, there's a small percentage of Republicans who say, they will support Trump, unless he's convicted.

Wow.

Haley, therefore, has no chance of getting more than a small fraction of Trump's current supporters to add to her collection of Trump's skeptical Republicans.

She might make a respectable showing as number two. Thus, setting her up to be Trump's vice presidential nominee, if he will have her.

In which case, her entire campaign will have been largely for show. Indeed, it will have served chiefly as a conveyer belt for Trump skeptics, to get on board with the Trump train in the end.

Now, wouldn't that be rich?

If that happens, you on the left, will have to change from Nikki can save us, to Nikki is worse than Trump.

Now, how can I predict that?

Well, George Bush was Hitler, if you remember. Well, so was Ronald Reagan.

But George Bush was Hitler. And then John McCain was worse.

Men Mitt Romney was worse than Hitler and John McCain combined. Then Trump once again was returned to Hitler.

And you have already announced that Ron DeSantis is worse than Hitler/Trump.

So, I mean, what's really funny. The only people that are worse in real life than Hitler, were Stalin and Mao.

One of which, you and your universities completely ignore his atrocities. And the other, had a president glorify and even hang a Christmas ball with Mao's face on it, at the White House Christmas tree.

Anyway, this author goes on to the Washington Post. If that's what she's up to, then the joke will be on the Koch Network, JP Morgan Chase, and Jamie Dimon and others who have looked up to her as the last hope for stopping Trump.

Oh, well. You know, in that list, you failed to mention BlackRock.

Proving the point of 70 percent of voters, nothing will change.

You're clearly for her. But you won't be in the general.

How do I know?

Just look at your track record.

Of John McCain.

Who you loved! Was the ultimate bipartisan guy. But the minute he was the candidate, this guy, who you love, most Republicans didn't. You went crazy on him.

He's Hitler.

Secret Docs Reveal the ENTIRE Deep State Network | Glenn TV | Ep 451

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Why Trump is RIGHT to take back DC

President Trump is cracking down on crime in Washington, DC, and Glenn Beck believes it’s a “brilliant” move. Glenn explains why Trump is taking action, whether it’s legal, and what he believes it says to the world.

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GLENN: So the president yesterday, taking control of our Capitol back. And he said this, cut three. Listen.

DONALD: My father always used to tell me. I had a wonderful father. Very smart. And he used to say: Son, when you walk into a restaurant and you see a dirty front door, don't go in. Because if the front door is dirty, the kitchen is dirty also. Same thing with the Capitol. If our Capitol is dirty, our whole country is dirty, and they don't respect us.

GLENN: It's absolutely true.

This is the broken windows theory. You know what that is? The broken windows theory is something that Rudy Giuliani used to turn the country around. And that theory is, no one, no one, picks up a rock or can or bottle or anything, that's in a nice neighborhood that's clean and everything else.

You don't pick up a rock and break a window. However, if you're in a neighborhood where there is a lot of broken windows and everything is broken down, the average person is much more likely to pick up a rock and throw it through a window.

Why? Because the entire neighborhood says, we don't care.

So what Rudy Giuliani did, was he used this theory, and he cleaned up the -- he cleaned up the subways by doing a couple of things.

First thing he did, was he made sure, that if you were jumping the turnstile, for the -- for the subway, you were stopped right there.

Before, people just weren't paying a fair, they were just jumping a turnstile.

And nobody was doing anything about it.

He says, no one was crossing that turnstile. Now, what is it?

Is it a dollar to ride the subway? No one rides it for free. And so he put police, right there.

And they stopped you, and arrested you, if you were jumping the turnstile.

The second thing is, was he stopped the graffiti. He said, I don't care if they have to be repainted every single day.

When those things pull into the station, at night. If we get there in the morning, and they've been spray-painted, I want them all painted again, and then they go out.

Everything had been covered in graffiti.

And when he changed those two things, all of a sudden, the attitude, of the subway, it became safe again.

Because it was sending a signal to the bad guys and to the good guys, we care. We're not going to let this happen, anymore.

So what he's saying here, about dirty doorstep, means a dirty kitchen. It's absolutely true.

You ever gone into a restaurant. Gone into their bathroom. And you're like, oh, boy.

Oh, God.

I can't eat now.

Because if the -- the bathroom for the customer is like that. What is their kitchen like, where the customer never sees it. That's what he's doing, and he has the absolute right to do it. He's got 30 days, before he has to bring Congress into it.

This is the -- back in 1973, Congress passed this Home Rule Act. And they didn't have a mayor. They didn't have a city council. They didn't have any of these things.

This has been from the beginning of our country, the Founders wanted the District of Columbia, to be a district that is a federal district, run by the federal government. Not by local rile.

And in 1973, they started that. And it was all just to get them to be declared a state. First a city with a mayor. Then we should have power to elect the president of the United States.

Yada. Yada. Yada.

This has not been worked. This has been an experiment that has not worked at all. So he can deploy the National Guard for law enforcement, because there is no governor of DC. He can use it for emergencies, crowd control, and to execute federal laws. However, he just declared an emergency.

Now, under the Home Rule Act, he can assume control of the Metro PD, which he didn't, for up to 48 hours, during special conditions of emergency.
And that time period can be extended.

But he -- what he's doing here, is he's using these 30 days, hoping that the home rules act is going to be revealed. Only Congress can reveal that. But there's movement to reveal it now. And if Congress appeals the home rule act.

Then this nonsense in the District of Columbia is over. And if anyone tells you, you know what, the crime status are going down.

To what?

To what?

Even if they went down to 2019 standards, is that good enough?

I mean, it is still more dangerous than walking around in Bogota, Colombia.

It is twice as dangerous as walking around in Islamabad!

I don't know. I don't think that's really a good thing.

And, by the way, they changed the way -- you're a stat person. Did you read this about the stats.

PAT: Playing with them.

GLENN: Oh, my God. Playing with them.

Felony assault is not considered a violent crime now in their crime stats. Not assault. Felony assault. Felony means usually prison is -- is tied to that.

STU: Yeah. Not just some easy misdemeanor, where you get your hand slapped.

GLENN: Felony assault.

STU: Yeah. If you're not going to include that, it's hard to even take that seriously.

But your point is more crucial to this, than even the statistical games.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Because they keep -- they keep bragging they're getting it back to 2019 levels, or maybe a tick below. That's not good.

GLENN: No. It's not.

STU: What you're saying is acceptable is not acceptable.

That's the message from the White House.

I would love to see it.

And we're seeing it so far. I would love to see the Democrats try to win that battle those rules.

If what you're trying to tell me, because we were there for the inauguration.

GLENN: Police everywhere.

STU: Of course that was -- police everywhere -- it's a totally different --

GLENN: But I had a guy threaten my life, and not for political reasons. Just because I think he was batcrap crazy.

STU: Yeah. Yeah. Right. I mean, a lot of sane people threatened your life on a regular basis. Crazy.

GLENN: This is a nutjob.

STU: Yeah. But, like, unless you're at the mall, during the day, it's -- and even there, can get sketchy at times.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

STU: You feel it.

GLENN: You feel it. You feel it.

STU: You want to stay inside your hotel room.

GLENN: And, you know what, everybody knows this. Washington Post. There -- this is a story on how safe the city is.

This is a safe city, but overhearing witness game threats and then watching the camera footage of the thuggery is disturbing, said one resident.

Speaking on the condition of anonymity, over --

STU: Anonymity, over concerns of personal safety.

GLENN: Yes. Anonymity, over concerns of personal safety. So I don't want my name in the paper, because I'm afraid of the thugs finding out who I am, and killing me. But it's perfectly safe. Oh, my gosh!

STU: Everyone knows this! Anyone who has ever been to DC. You know it, by walking around.
Weird crap happens to you. People approach you, in threatening ways.

GLENN: You know, Rikki told me just a few minutes ago, our executive producer. She said, last time I was in DC. And she lived in DC for many, many years. She said, I was in my old neighborhood.
She said, I used to walk at 2 o'clock in the morning.
I never had a problem with that. She said, I went to this restaurant. And I was there with a friend.

And I had gone there a million times.

She says, it's in the middle of the day. Within just a few minutes, she's sitting on a patio outside, some huge guy, she said, 300 pounds, at least 6 feet, comes up and says, I'm going to kill you. And starts threatening her and her life.

They call the cops. It takes them 15 minutes. She's not far from the Capitol. Fifteen minutes to get there. And then they don't do anything about it.

He -- she's like, anybody who says, this isn't happening, has just never been there. Here's an ABC anchor. Now, remember, their whole spin is, this was fascism.

There's no -- it's a safe city. Listen to this ABC anchor. Listen to this. Cut one.

We've been talking so much about the numbers, and usually that's how you play devil's advocate. You talk about, oh, well, stats say crime is down.

However, I can tell you firsthand here in downtown DC, where we were, right here around our bureau, just in the past six months, you know, there were two people shot. One person died. Literally two blocks down here from the bureau.

It was within the last two years, that I actually was jumped, walking just two blocks down from here. And then just this morning, one of my coworkers said her car was stolen, a block away from the bureau. So we can talk about the numbers, going down. But crime is happening every single day, because we're all experiencing it firsthand while working and listing down here.

GLENN: Hmm. Hmm.

STU: You know.

GLENN: Go ahead.

STU: I was just going to say, I was on vacation last week. You know, it's like saying I'm cutting my calories from vacation levels to normal levels.

It's still not healthy. Right?

It's just -- even if there is an improvement from 2023, which some numbers do show, although the numbers are questionable.

2023 was just absolute catastrophe. And this is just terrible. Right?

Like, that -- there's no reason to embrace this norm.

As the norm.

GLENN: So let me give you -- I want to show you the response. The response on the left.

Here is -- show the full screen here of the free DC.

This came out yesterday.

Free DC. Like it's under some fascistic.

Look at this deal. And what it says is it is encouraging residents to protest Trump's federalizing of the city's police force. And what it wants to do is starting tonight at 8:00 p.m. And then every night, go out to stop this occupation.

Go out and bring pots and pans. And bang on them. And then when you're -- your neighbors go, what the hell is wrong with you!

Say, don't you care about the fascistic government.

STU: People will love that.

GLENN: This is crazy. This is crazy.

Now, if Donald Trump and I think with Jeanine Pirro.

I think some things are going to be happening quickly there.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: He actually has a chance. And I don't think he's doing it this way, for this reason.

But he actually has a chance of turning DC Republican.

Because you're living in that. Imagine --

STU: It's hard to imagine.

GLENN: It's hard to imagine. But imagine living there. And now you're seeing your side, that you've always voted for. Say, it's not so bad. And you know it's bad.

You can't have your wife go out to the grocery store at night.

You've had your carjacked. Maybe crazy people on the streets.

And then he's doing something. And if it works, if it works, people will be like, you know what, I'm sorry.

But that is a better solution.

He is -- this is very brilliant of him. He's very good at this.

He knows where people live.

You know, spiritually. And physically. He knows right where they live.

And where they're living in Washington it can't. Is a hellhole.

And everybody there knows it. And if he can actually change their lives, he changes everything.

Are these MAJOR PROBLEMS with our airlines widespread?

What is going on at our airports?! Glenn Beck has noticed an increase in flight issues – delays, technical problems, understaffing. So, he speaks with aviation expert Mike Boyd, who explains where he believes these issues are coming from. Are they widespread? Or is it just one airline? And can the FAA fix these issues under President Trump?

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GLENN: Mike Boyd. Welcome to the program, Mike, how are you?

MIKE: I'm doing fine. It's an honor to be here.

GLENN: Thank you. So thank you for coming on. I've been asking for an interview with Secretary Duffy, and we haven't been able to align the schedules yet.

But I am very concerned about our airlines. I was on a plane. These were all American Airlines, by the way. I was on the plane. The pilot, we got on. It was like two hours, three hours later late. We got on. And the pilot was standing in the aisle. And he said, everybody, I don't want you to blame the airlines. I want you to blame me.

And we're like, oh, okay.

And he said, because I wouldn't accept the plane, that they wanted to us fly because I have flown it before. And it has problems. And they haven't fixed those problems. And the only way it's going to be fixed is if we reject it. And say, I can't fly.

I don't know if that's true or not. Or what this guy -- you know, what the story was. But that didn't fill me with confidence. I'm like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. So you're actually saying, the airline is not repairing a plane.

And I don't think -- I mean, I don't think our airplanes are in trouble, and going to start falling out of the sky. But that has been happening lately.

What is happening with our airlines?

MIKE: Well, I think the experience you had, that one specific one. We've done a lot from -- I come from an American Airlines background. Nevertheless, we've done a lot of work with American pilots unions. These are very professional people. The fact that guy stood up there and said, I'm not confident with this airplane. That's a safety -- that's a safety plus.

GLENN: Oh, I appreciated that. We thanked him for that. Thank you. Thank you.

MIKE: But we have a major problem with American Airlines. If you have pilots saying, I don't trust you. These are not yo-yos. These are not good consumer men's. These are professionals. If they say that, we have a problem in America. If that happens in America, and I think you might want to call the folks down there in Fort Worth, their brand-new American Way headquarters. They spent billions on them and asked questions.

But overall, I haven't seen that. Are there big problems with air traffic control?

Yes. No question about that. And we finally have somebody that the FAA and the DOT, who has a clue. And that will be addressed.

But overall, if it's just one airline, you're on the right track, as far as looking at it.

GLENN: Okay.

So this is -- but are you seeing this kind of stuff happening with other airlines.

MIKE: No. No.

GLENN: I'm flying out of Dallas all the time. So I generally fly American. And I occasionally will fly Delta. But, you know, it's mainly American. So I just assume this is happening on other airlines as well.

Because I'm reading the comments from people. And they're like, I can't trust that I can get there the next day anymore.

And that's a real problem.

MIKE: Well, because air travel is. I have to get there times certain.

This is not a game. I have to get to the bar mitzvah, whatever I'm going.

So if they can't get there, I'm not going to go. And the reason I'm not going to go, is you can't get me there. Now, if you look at reliability.
And again, we've had some issues, like Frontier Airlines, if you want to see Saturday Night Lights, go to YouTube. You'll see a gated -- a gated net, Frontier Airlines. It's really bad. But if you look at others, like our friends at United Airlines -- and I don't work for those guys. They have a system where if you book at United, very often, they're with you the whole damn trip.

If you don't like a lot of text messages, don't book them. They're with you, the whole time. And their CEO is functionally age, about making sure, whatever went on. Whatever it is. Take it or leave it.

From that point, I think you may have stumbled over something that affects the metroplex, more than anything else.

GLENN: So how's -- because I've been on the plane. And everybody is like, we're going to have missing.

You know, you will miss your connections.

And everybody is like -- is this kind of -- is the airline system set up almost like the Just In Time supply line? That if it did ever go into catastrophic failure, it would be a real problem.

Because, I mean, it's just one plane arrives, just in time for everyone to unload and reload and take off again.

MIKE: Well, yeah. That's just the issue. In ancient times, our friends at Southwest could come in and go in ten minutes.

Today, you can't get ten seats emptied in that amount of time. So they're really trying to cut down the amount of time, on the ground. That makes sense.

The question is, they have to have systems they can't be allow them to do that.

Now, delta has put in a very comprehensive system that only works for Delta, where they have been able to coordinate all those things, and do a better job of it.

But you're right. If you're coming in and going out, and that airplane has to do a go-around, coming into Atlanta. That could be 15 minutes.

That 15 minutes could mean, you can't get across the terminal to get your connection. That's going to happen.

GLENN: Tell me about the situation.

Because, Stu, you did a documentary on how bad the air traffic control system was. Right?

STU: Yes, I did.

GLENN: And is that on YouTube still? What was the name of it?

STU: It is. Countdown to the next Aviation Disaster. Unfortunately the countdown was not as long as you would have hoped it would have been.

GLENN: Yeah, it is. I mean, what's going on in our air traffic control.

And I would never want to be an air traffic controller. The stress these guys are under.

And that's not -- I'm not even calculating the stress on how close these planes are flying in and out now.

I mean, I'm just thinking, back in the good old days, where it was very stressful.

Now they're still passing paper to each other. And these planes are one on top of the other one.

When are we going to change this system and update it?

MIKE: Duffy is doing that. Duffy is not -- and finally, we have an FAA administrator who has a clue. Brian Bedford. He's been around. No, I've known him for 40 years. This man knows the business, and he's all business.

And, you know -- and, you know, I know he's good because Chuck Schumer doesn't like him. So that underlines everything right there.

GLENN: Good.

MIKE: So that's starting right now. Look, we testified to Congress in 1994 on this. On a free flight system, that you could make it far more efficient. The FAA blew it off. The FAA has always been a repository of some really great people at the operational level.

But at the top, these are just political appointees. Take a look at the FAA administrator that the -- the last president wanted. Phil Washington. Nice guy. Clueless. But he was a good appointee.

We can't do that anymore. I think we're going to see some major changes right now.

GLENN: Now, can -- how long is it going to take us to fix this?

MIKE: Well, you know, one of the things.

It's sort of -- what Duffy said, well, we have a -- there was a program in place to fix it over the next five years. And that's ridiculous.

So he's on it. I mean, he just went up to Wisconsin. He found the oldest, I think the oldest control tower in the nation. We're going to fix this. He's really making a point of trying to get it done.

And I think he's doing it incrementally. Where like Newark. What a disaster. I don't mean this city, necessarily. I do.
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But at the airport, you know.

He's trying to make that work better.

This guy is on it. So I'm thinking 18 months.

It's going to be incremental. But we will start to see this happen.

GLENN: In Newark, or in the country?

MIKE: In the country. Because we can't have a free flight system that is far more efficient --

GLENN: What does it mean, a free flight system?

MIKE: There's a free flight system -- they want to ignore this, where every airplane takes off, and it finds its own ways. Keep in mind, the skies aren't crowded.

You can put 250,000, count them, 737s in a cubit mile of airspace, parked, not moving.

But that's a quarter million of them. And any time in America, today, in the sky, you might have just 14,000 -- 14,000 airplanes in the sky.

GLENN: Wow.

MIKE: But that's like 11 million cubic miles of airspace. So we can use our airspace better.

But what we've had is quite frankly, an FAA that hasn't wanted to think about it. It's more worried about itself. I am convinced that is going to change over the next two years.

GLENN: And are we close to having AI do all of this free flight stuff?

I mean, I would imagine that you don't -- I mean, you don't need to check in with tower, if AI is assisting finding it.

MIKE: Oh, exactly. We've got to use that. And a lot of it -- it's -- the head of the FAA has always been the clown of the Titanic. He says, slow down.

And by the time, it gets back to the engine room, you know, we've hit the iceberg. I think it's one of those things that we have to recognize, a lot of stuff has to change organizationally at the FAA, and at the department of transportation. I think finally we have people that can actually address that.

GLENN: Wow!

That is -- I mean, this is wildly optimistic, but I am happy to hear that. I like Secretary Duffy.

I don't know much about him.

Not enough to say enough like you're talking. That makes me feel really good. I'm very concerned about our air travel.

It's not good. Not good.

Not going in the right direction.

MIKE: It's not going in the right direction.

I find out, if I treat the customer right, they might come back and fly me, and what's happening now, people are getting away from some of these really low fair airlines, where the seat is like, a bucket seat in a C-119.

They don't want to fly those things anymore. And people like United and Delta and other carriers are saying, we'll take your business.

And they are.

GLENN: I have to tell you, at times, I'll be on a plane. And I think we're like one scruffy dog with one blue eye, just walking down the aisle, creepily away from third world airlines. I mean, it's like, there are times I'm like, is there a chicken going to run down the aisle too? What country do we live in?

It's beyond. It really is the greyhound of the sky now.

MIKE: It is. There's no question. My mother was a stewardess in the 1930s. Everybody dressed up.

GLENN: Yes.

MIKE: Today, you're lucky if everybody is dressed.
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GLENN: I don't know why we haven't had you on before, Mike. You're very funny.

Mike, thank you so much. For an inside look on this. I appreciate it. Mike Boyd, aviation expert. From the Boyd group international. He's the president and CEO.

MIKE: Me pleasure. Thank you.

GLENN: He's the guy who consults all these airlines and tries to help fix them.

And is also, you know, testifying in front of Congress all the time.