Politicians and companies throughout America have turned their back on police officers. But THESE companies -- from Ford to Chick Fil-A and even Google — are taking action to back the blue. Our cops do an AWFUL lot and it's time we find ways to support them in our every day life, too.
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October 15, 2025
China vs. US: The battle for rare earth minerals and AI dominance
There is a quiet war brewing between China and the US over rare earth minerals and AI. We CANNOT lose this war, Glenn Beck warns. But can we win it without destroying ourselves in the process? Glenn Beck explains why we must have this conversation and connects 4 stories from around the world that reveal what’s coming…
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GLENN: All right. I told you about gold here. Record highs.
And it is telling us something. Usually, it would tell us if the dollar is in real, real trouble. I think, and I am guessing at this now.
But I think what this is telling us, is that the whole world, the system is in trouble. And let me give you an example. I'm going to talk to you about something to try to make sense of it here. But I do have a good answer. Because we're not having these conversations. I have told you for almost 20 years, when it comes to AI. We must have these conversations now, because the world is going to change overnight. And we are at that point! We are at the point of singularity. Where there is no turning back. And we haven't had these conversations. Do you want to win the AI war?
I will tell you, we cannot lose it. But to win it, we may have to sacrifice so much on the altar of liberty, that I don't want to fight it!
So what do we do?
Let me explain. Something has shifted in the world. And most people cannot feel it yet.
But if you're paying attention, you understand, there is something on the horizon. One day soon, we're going to wake up, and we're going to realize, uh-oh. I think we crossed the line here. Quietly, silently. While no one was paying attention, everything changed.
Over the past few days, while the world was paying attention on what's going on in Israel and the Middle East. There's a couple of other really important headlines that caught my attention.
And at first, they all seemed unrelated. Just random stories from around the world. But when you look closer. And this is what I think I do best.
I take things that are seemingly unrelated. And say, wait a minute. Wait a minute.
I think they all fit into this category.
So let me give you some threads here.
First thread is China. Beijing just tightened its grip on rare earth elements. These are the minerals that make absolutely everything possible. Your smartphone. Your electric car. Your missile defense system. Your refrigerator. Everything depends on these rare earth minerals. China, because of our inaction and stupid policies over the last couple of decades, control now, 80 percent of the world's supply chain. That cannot stand. Now, what they're doing, is they're choking it off! They're now closing it up, and they are threatening the West. No more rare earth -- rare earth minerals. If that happens, we cannot defend ourself.
Do we have rare earth minerals? Yeah. We have lots of them. But we're not mining them.
It will take a decade to start mining them, up in Alaska. Where they mainly are.
That's why Donald Trump was saying, we need Greenland!
That's what he was saying. Rare earth minerals. Because they're already mining them there. And we cannot lose them!
Now, they're choking it off, and rare earth stocks exploded overnight.
Because whoever controls those minerals, controls the future. Now, here's the second threat, the Pentagon.
Out of nowhere, they made a billion dollar emergency order for those same rare earth minerals. That's not normal. That's not paperwork. That is the sound of the military quietly preparing for something, a shortage. Possibly in a storm. Like I said, we are -- because of what Biden did in Ukraine, we are -- are wholly unprepared for any kind of military action. We don't have the materials.
And at the same time, everything is changing to high-tech. We don't have the rare earth minerals, and the chips now, to make our guided missile systems.
The third threat, JP Morgan Chase. One of the most powerful institutions on the planet, just announced this week, a $1.5 trillion investment plan. In what they call security and resilience.
That's not going to mom and pop shops. That's not going to community loans. That money is being funneled straight into AI, defense manufacturing, and critical minerals.
It's as if the Pentagon and Wall Street just linked arms and decided to build a fortress economy together.
Then came the fourth threat. Nobody paid attention to this one. In Europe, the Dutch government just seized control of the Chinese-owned chip maker on their own soil.
They invoked emergency powers and nationalized the company to stop the Chinese influence over the semiconductor industry. That's not good. Four stories, four continents, four quiet tremors in the ground. When you weave them all together, that's when you begin to understand what all of this means. So let me try to do that.
The old world, as we know it is dying! Pragmatism the world of free markets. The world of open trade. Individual enterprise.
The world that lifted billions out of poverty, is being replaced now, slowly, but surely by something new.
And this one is being done in the name of security.
And I don't have an answer for this. This is why we must pay attention, and talk about it now!
Corporations now are aligning with state power. Before, we had the tech industry, aligning itself with the government to control speech.
This is the government aligning themselves with tech rare earth minerals, et cetera, et cetera. To be able to win the AI war.
This -- this -- all of this is a single unspoken motive. And that is, the race to dominate artificial intelligence. This is the new arms race. This is the nigh Manhattan Project. The new nuclear weapon. Except, this is a million the times more enslaving than nuclear weapons could ever hope to be.
Whoever masters this first, whoever gets to AI and AGI first will control the economies, the information, even your thought itself.
Every rare earth mineral, every chip, every line of code, they're all ingredients in that same contest. And the nations are moving fast. They're hoarding materials now.
They're beginning to seize companies.
They're building walled off supply chains. This is happening on their side. And on our side.
And the free market in this particular place, is no longer free. It's being drafted into a digital Cold War. Now, that sounds bad, but now let me tell you the danger that nobody seems to get.
When nations go to war, even an economic war, freedom always becomes a casualty. We tell -- we tell ourselves, we're fighting for liberty. And we are!
Because we don't want to live if had a society like China, right?
I don't!
But when survival is on the line, governments tighten control for our own good. They regulate. They ration. They censor. And one day, you look up, and you realize, the line between democracy and technocracy is gone. If the -- if the West wants to win this AI war and we must, then we have to have a conversation.
Why are we even fighting this war?
Because if in winning it, we become China. Why not let China just win?
If we adopt the same top-down control. The same surveillance. The same emergence of government and corporate power. Then what did we actually win?
Didn't we just trade one master for another?
The old global system, free enterprise, open markets, individual liberty.
It is being rewritten in real time.
And the threads are now all coming together. And they are -- they are weaving a new tapestry.
I don't know what the tapestry looks like. I can guess what that tapestry looks like.
And I don't like it.
Will it be woven, from freedom, or will it be woven from fear?
If we lose sight of who we are -- look, our global leadership, it's already lost sight for who we are. They don't care. They don't care.
None of them care. They'll get to this global dominance over the individual, one way or another, in their book. You must care. You must stand for freedom. You must be at the head of having this conversation. Because if we lose sight of who we are, it -- this tapestry is going to be strong, efficient, and unbreakable.
But it will not be free. Some take can, historians will look back at this moment, and they will go, what happened?
They're going to see these quiet headlines. These invisible decisions that are being made right now. And they will realize, this is when the new world began. They will be able to look at this point and say, this was it!
Why didn't people see it?
Hmm.
The answer to that is office.
We have -- we're overwhelmed with everything that we have to do. Everything we're looking at.
This has been a very well-planned takeover of freedom.
You have to ask yourself: When the weaving is done, whose pattern will we be living in? Because that is what is coming.
There's a story in the show prep today, that I really want I to live. I will talk to you about it in a second. Western executives who visit China are coming back terrified. You don't have any idea how far China is ahead of us.
And you can say, well, I don't want to be China. Well, you will be China, and China will be controlling you, if we don't push back.
But how do we push back, without becoming China.
Listen to this next story.
You can find it in our headlines. If you just go get the free email newsletter, at GlennBeck.com.
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I am in Washington, DC. I'm actually at the Rush Limbaugh studios at the Heritage Foundation. I can't help them enough for the short notice, I was invited at the White House, over the weekend, to join the president and -- in honoring Charlie Kirk on his 32nd birthday today.
My receiving the freedom medal, and I'll be there along with a lot of other people. And I really can't wait to experience that. And hope to have some time with the president later today, and talk about some other things.
There's a lot of things going on. By the way, you can watch this ceremony, at TP USA. Turning Point USA YouTube. And the channels at 4:00 p.m. Eastern time.
And I hope to see you there. And I'll be back in the studios in Dallas tomorrow, to give you more about that, as we -- as we continue.
Okay. So let me give you this story. Western executive visit China, who are coming back. Quote, it's the most humbling thing I've ever seen, said Ford's chief executive about his recent trip to China. After visiting a string of factories, Jim Farley was left astonished by technical innovations being packed into Chinese cars from self-driving software to facial recognition.
The cost and quality of their vehicles is far superior to that on which I see in the West. We are in a global competition with China, and it's not just EVs. If we lose this, listen carefully, there is no future at Ford! If we lose this, there is no future at Ford.
Another executive: This one from the EU says, I can take you to factories in China now, where you'll basically be alongside a big conveyor belt, and the machines come out on the floor and begin to assemble parts. You're walking alongside this conveyor, and after about 800 meters, a truck drives out, and there are no people involved.
Other executives describe a vast dark factory, where robots do so much of the work alone, that there's no need to even turn on lights for humans.
We visited a dark factory, producing some astronomical numbers of cell phones.
The process is so heavily automated, that there were no workers on the manufacturing side, just a small number who are there to make sure a plant was working.
You get this sense of change, where China's competitive has gone from government subsidies and low wages, to a tremendous number of highly skilled, educated engineers, who are innovating like mad. Between 2014 and 2024, the number of industrial robots deployed in the country, rocketed from 189,000 to more than 2 million. It is -- just give you -- just let me give you this. Last year, China added 295,000 robots. Germany added 27,000.
The US 34,000. The UK, 2500.
The UK is over. I mean, it's just absolutely over. It boasts 567 robots for every 10,000 manufacturing workers. 449 in Germany for every 10,000. And 307 for the US.
So this is not -- this is -- I'm not preaching this because this is, you know, good for the country. It's bad for workers. It's bad for workers.
But China is doing it for a couple of -- a couple of things. First of all, their policy is known. I can't pronounce it in Chinese. But it translates to replacing humans with machines.
In China, they don't need to have a Patriot Act.
A really, super great thing for auto workers. No.
Replacing humans with machines, is the name of the policy.
Okay.
And it is -- it's happening everywhere. Everywhere. They can develop and execute models in probably half the time, that most European car makers can make.
And they're doing it, partially because they're seeing the decline in their birthrates. And they know, we're not going to have the workers to be able to do this.
But what's disturbing is. All of these robotics, are needing power.
They also need AI.
So they are building these gigantic server farms, which we are still breaking ground on. They're building them. They're building new power plants. One power plant, coal-fired power plant every week. And I think 40 -- can you look this up, Stu?
I think it's 40 nuclear power plants a year.
We're not building anything!
We're not building anything.
We're breaking ground on it.
Trump has already said, he's cutting all of the regulations.
But we're still far, far behind.
And we are getting close to the point where they win, we lose.
Again, I don't know what to do about it. Except, have a conversation about it. Because I've read the conversations from the left. I've read the conversations from World Economic Forum. And they don't care. They will take you and literally put you in a drug -- a drugged state, and put you online, and you're just going to play video games, your whole life. That is honestly their plan for a large number of people in the West, that will be just no longer usable. Undesirables. Well, I don't like those labels.
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October 14, 2025
FBI investigates Glenn's expose on Antifa network
The FBI showed up to Glenn's house to discuss his TV show exposing Antifa's network. Glenn shares what he learned from his "surreal" meeting and warns any member or funder of Antifa: you should be a little concerned because the FBI is SERIOUS about investigating you.
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GLENN: Let me tell you something else that's changed.
Let me start with this. Cut five here.
Here are the new talking points for the media on Antifa.
Listen to this.
VOICE: This is an entirely imaginary organization. There's not an Antifa.
VOICE: Look, I don't even know what Antifa is.
VOICE: There is no growth.
VOICE: It's not even like far right groups, like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, compared to right-wing extremists, Antifa-linked violence is rare and limited.
VOICE: It is an organization.
It is -- it is in many ways mythology.
VOICE: It's not like the Proud Boys or the Oath Keepers. You know, they're defined terrorist organizations, the leadership that led -- that, you know, leads violence.
VOICE: It's not a highly organized movement. It's a moniker. It's not even a group like the Proud Boys are.
Things like Antifa are things that are thought up.
VOICE: These guys are going after Antifa, which is nothing. There's no organization called Antifa.
VOICE: Nobody is a member of Antifa because it doesn't exist! They are just claiming existence to something that doesn't exist.
VOICE: There is no Antifa organization, so maybe that's good for social media.
But it really has -- is nonexistent.
VOICE: They exist on the internet and chat rooms.
And in 4chan.
GLENN: Okay.
VOICE: And places like that. Where they run discussion boards. Trade tactics.
Documents. Things like that.
But none of them are called Antifa.
STU: What!
GLENN: I don't even know what they're talking about.
You want to talk about living in a different world.
But that's what's going around.
Now, let me just tell you this: Last week, I did a TV show that apparently got the FBI's attention.
STU: Hmm.
GLENN: The topic was -- was initial investigation. A jumping off point, shattering the myth that Antifa just -- oh, it's -- it's just leaderless. And decentralized. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
We thought, no. It's really not. So we dove in. Head first.
And we analyzed the Antifa network. And we went from the street thugs, to the support groups, eventually, to the funding.
Okay?
To say the FBI was interested in this might be an understatement.
Let's just say, the FBI is turning over every single stone.
It is so clear to me, that they are exploring all angles of this. And they are talking to anyone and everyone that can give them think kind of information.
How do I know?
Saturday, I get a phone call.
The director would like to send over some agents to speak to you, Glenn.
And I'm like, the director?
The FBI agents?
Yes, you said, some things that they need to talk to you about.
Well, good things or bad things? "They'll be over."
Three agents sat in my living room on Saturday afternoon for almost two hours. And I immediately called Jason. I'm like, Jason, you're the researcher. It's your fault. I'm going to throw you under the bus. You better get your butt over here.
So Jason was there. My wife and I sat there, and it was surreal at one point. I talked to them for about 15 minutes just going over the Tides Foundation. And saying, if you understand Tides, you'll understand how difficult your job is going to be. And this is information that I first gave on Fox years ago.
Let me just say this: Finally, we have an administration and an FBI director, that is willing to go in deep. Not surface. But deep!
I could only imagine what we could have avoided, if anyone in an administration, would have done this, in 2011.
But if I were in that, imaginary group, of Antifa, which, by the way, has imaginary leaders. Leaving the country to go maybe to imaginary countries outside of the US right now. I would be very concerned. If I were a part of anything that was sending money their way or assistance their way.
I don't know!
I might be a little concerned, because the FBI is deadass serious.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Donald Trump, Kash Patel, and all of the agents at the FBI.
GLENN: We're covering from Allie Beth Stucky's big event, six or 7,000 women showed up this weekend for a weekend conference. It was -- it was unbelievable.
STU: Really, I saw the crowds. It was incredible.
GLENN: Yeah. She did a great, great job. I'm so proud of her. She's just killing it. But we will try to get to some of those clips because they're really, really good. We'll get to those later on in the program. You know, Stu and I were talking about how Antifa doesn't exist. And, you know, that's like saying -- it's like saying Al-Qaeda doesn't exist. Well, you're right.
There is no way, you know, 501 Broadway, you know, where you go to al-Qaeda's office. That doesn't happen, but it does exist, and it's an ideology.
And while they may not -- they may not take their direction from the same person at the office, I don't know. There's no HR. So they don't exist. They exist!
They exist. And they're loosely affiliated. And sometimes, they are getting money. You know.
STU: Uh-huh.
GLENN: And for the press and everybody else to say -- when you're watching them all over the country, and they're doing exactly the same thing, same tactics. Every -- everywhere.
You know, to say, they don't exist is just infantile.
STU: Yeah. It's like a -- it's -- I don't know what the word -- there should be a word for this, if there isn't.
But there's a real point used in an intentionally dumb way to mislead.
Is that malinformation? Is that what that is?
GLENN: Yes. Yes.
STU: It really is. There's a real point to it. They're disengaged from a centralized thing. This makes them more dangerous. This is how you had to deal with terrorist cells back in the day. However, they're using it in a way that makes it seem like it's not a threat, which is not accurate. And they know it's not accurate. And they're trying to mislead people with a piece of --
GLENN: Why would you -- why would you support -- why would you try to brush Antifa under the rug? I mean, it's just perplexing.
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October 14, 2025
How Trump SUCCEEDED where everyone failed in Israel and Gaza
For the first time in modern history, and perhaps the past few thousand years, we may have actual peace in the Middle East. Glenn Beck discusses the signing of President Trump’s historic peace deal, which will hopefully bring an end to the Israel/Hamas conflict in Gaza, and the freeing of the remaining 20 hostages.
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GLENN: Let me start here: For the first time in living memory, the guns have gone quiet in Gaza. Hostages, that have been held now for over two years have just walked free. And for the very first time, not in decades, but perhaps a millennia or two: The descendents of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, have -- have signed something that might resemble more than just a ceasefire. You have to understand, before we start, how significant and how impossible it is to reach this point! This is not like anything we've ever seen before.
The conflict did not begin in 1948. It didn't begin with the British mandates and the creation of the state of Israel. The story really begins with the -- the ancient people of Israel and the sands of Canaan, where the people of Israel and the people called the Philistines, clashed over the same spot of earth called Gaza.
The Bible records Gaza as one of the five cities of the Philistines. And is this the place, Gaza is the place where the Philistines gathered their strength.
It was in Gaza that Samson, the judge of Israel was betrayed, captured, blinded, and paraded through the streets, as the Philistines mocked him. Much like you saw on October 7th. It was in Gaza that he brought the temple down on them. You know, one man against the empire. History has a very long memory in that land. We call it the Gaza Strip today. But it has seen conquers come and go. The Egyptians. The Babylonians. The Greeks, the on the mans, and the British.
And yet, somehow or another, the one rivalry, that is from 2000, 3,000 years ago, remains. The one between the children of Israel, and those who dwell along the sea.
That's an important thing. Palestinians of the ancient world, in Biblical context, are -- are different than the Palestinians. They were the group. They were not Semitic. They weren't Jewish. And they concentrated on the coast of Israel, Gaza.
The modern Palestinian identity came, you know, a millennia later, and that was shaped by the Arab, Islamic, and -- and historic developments in that area. It's not directly connected to the Philistines. However, Philistine and Palestinian both mean people that dwell on the coast. The word Hamas is an acronym, which means, you know, in their language. The Islamic resistance movement. But in Hebrew, Hamas means something altogether different. It means violence.
And this is in Hebrew, in Genesis 6:11. The earth was filled with Hamas. Violence, corruption, wickedness. It was because of Hamas, that the rains came, and Noah had to build the ark because of Hamas. So when you hear the word "Hamas," understand what it means to the Israeli ear, compared, you know, to the Palestinian ear.
It's not just an enemy. It's a Biblical echo, a spiritual warning from deep, deep time. So for 75 years, they have been trying to make peace between these ancient adversaries. Everybody has tried to do it. In my lifetime, the Camp David awards, or Accords, were in 1978. The Oslo Accords, in 1993. Endless road maps, summits, UN resolutions, and nothing! Every single one of them hailed as historic. And each one declared a new chapter. And every one of them failed, and it's not because the diplomats lack skill. But because too many on one side, the entire Arab world didn't believe Israel had a right to exist, and everyone was looking for a political solution. Then comes Donald Trump!
Donald Trump didn't approach this, you know, as a professor of Middle East studies.
He didn't approach this with the hundred years of expertise from the State Department.
In fact, he looked at the State Department expertise, and went, you guys aren't really experts of anything. You haven't solved anything.
And you keep trying the same thing. What are you doing?
He took a business approach. He knew all of the players, because of business. He knew all of the big players.
And so he got in with all of the players, and found out, what do you really want? And what they really want is stability. If you look at what's being built in the Middle East, they are these -- these incredible modern cities. Incredible modern cities.
They want prosperity. The Middle East does. Hamas doesn't!
He saw a region, Donald Trump did. He saw a region that was addicted to USAID.
Endless negotiation.
And so he just tore up the whole rule book. And he recognized Jerusalem, first thing as the capital of Israel.
A move that every single president before has been told by the State Department, you can't do that. It will cause war. And, you know what, it didn't.
He moved the embassy.
He then walked away from the Iran Deal. And he told the world that America is no longer going to apologize for standing with the only democracy in the Middle East. And that's where all of the anti-Semitic stuff comes. Because now, see, Israel is controlling our foreign policy! Israel is controlling Donald Trump. Donald Trump is doing the bidding of the Jews!
No. Nope. No, he didn't.
No, he wasn't being controlled. And, no, they weren't controlling him. It was actually seemingly quite the opposite. Because he did something extraordinary. He took the entire region, and brought them together!
First, he did it with the Abrahamic -- Abraham Accords. That is the first genuine realignment of the region, in a generation, or maybe two.
And it wasn't about ideology. It was all about survival, prosperity. And the shared fear of Iran's growing shadow!
When we drop the bombs on Iran, Americans, and people in the West, and people who have been educated in our universities, and have been indoctrinated with all of this garbage, they looked at that and said, "Oh, my gosh, look at. He's doing Israel's bidding."
No, he was actually doing Israel's bidding. He was doing Saudi Arabia's bidding. He was doing a bidding of Egypt. Everyone in the Middle East. Everyone in the Middle East. Hates Iran. They know how dangerous Iran is. They wanted somebody to put Iran in its place. So when Donald Trump did, the Middle East, the Arab world, celebrated. Not obviously not all of it, but a lot of it. The ones that are now at the table. He did something else: He proved himself to be an honest broker, and not doing the bidding of just Israel. And I would love to hear all of the people who are now standing up and saying, "See, we are just a puppet."
I would love to hear your explanation of this. When Israel went after Qatar, which I don't have any love at all for Qatar. But they went after Qatar. And that was going to blow this whole thing up.
What happened? Donald Trump went to Benjamin Netanyahu, and said, "You need to apologize to Qatar."
Israel and Netanyahu is not going to apologize. They ended up apologizing to Qatar. "That won't happen again."
That gave Donald Trump the -- the -- the image in the Middle East of not being the little boy toy, but the other way around. He has some control of what Israel is going to do. He can tell them, "Knock it off."
Then when everybody came to the table, the Middle East all came to the table and said, "Okay we'll handle Hamas. You handle Israel."
So they got Hamas to the table and said, "You're going to take this, and we're going to guarantee the peace." And Donald Trump went to Benjamin Netanyahu. Benjamin Netanyahu said, "We have to finish the job. We have to finish them off."
And Donald Trump said, "No, you're going to take this deal now."
And Benjamin Netanyahu said, "No, we have to finish them off." And he said, "I don't think you hear me: You're going to take this deal." That's how this happened. That's a miracle. He didn't try to make them friends, he tried to make them partners. They all want prosperity. And now, we are -- we're looking at the fruits of the labor that started with the Abrahamic Accords. The Arab states signed it to enforce peace rather than to sabotage it. For the first time in 4,000 years! The blood-soaked sands of Gaza whisper something today, that has been forgotten for 4,000 years. And that is hope.
If it hollows, even if it holds for a year, five years, ten years, it means centuries of hatred has been overtaken by something stronger than hate.
And even if we just start with survival, that's good!
It means that the children of Abraham, which is both the Arab and the Jew, the descendents of Abraham, long divided by faith and pride, have decided, choose life over death, trying to prove you're right!
It means the Biblical land of Gaza, where Samson fell, where violence has filled the earth, might finally learn the meaning of peace. But if it doesn't, and the rockets return and the lies reawaken, and this will just be another tombstone in the desert of broken promises. But the Bible says, "Blessed are the peacemakers. The Lord hates the hands that shed innocent blood." So if this holds, if this holds, if courage triumphs over chaos -- let's remember that peace is not the absence of war, it's the presence of righteousness. And righteousness, true, moral clarity demands that we call evil by its name. And we stand with truth, even when it's costly. And we defend the innocent, even when the world looks away. And now, it is our job, as long as this holds, to rebuild. I am so happy to say, "We are not being asked to rebuild. Not our money."
The Middle Eastern money is coming in now, to rebuild the region. As it should be. Men haven't suddenly become good, but for once, maybe they're choosing life over death or survival. But perhaps they've remembered and seen God's warning and chosen mercy over their rage.
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October 13, 2025
Are Hamas and Palestine in the Book of Revelation?!
Is Hamas mentioned in the Bible? Does the Palestinian flag have a connection to a prophecy in the Book of Revelation? Glenn Beck speaks with filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza about his new film, “The Dragon’s Prophecy,” based on the book by Jonathan Cahn, that discusses these “coincidences.”
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GLENN: Dinesh, welcome to the program, how are you?
DINESH: Glenn, it's a great pleasure. Thanks for having me.
GLENN: Oh, you're welcome. I watched your film last week, and I've got to tell you, it's -- it's frightening, and really powerful.
DINESH: Well, we begin, Glenn, as you know with putting you on a motorcycle with a GoPro, and you ride with Hamas into the Kibbutz. Hamas took this footage. Remarkably, not a lot of people have seen it. The Israel government, I think was reluctant to show it, except to a handful of journalists.
But it opens my film, and it has a bit of a graphic warning. But it's ten minutes of putting you right on the scene of October 7th, 2 years ago, and the film kind of takes off from there, to give you the widest significance that engages politics, but history, archaeology. And even as you mentioned, a hint of Biblical prophecy, so that the political is wedded into the moral of the spiritual.
GLENN: So let me play a trailer here from the movie. Here it is.
VOICE: So who are the Jews? Who are the Palestinians? Whose land is it really? Could the fate of the world, of humanity itself, be somehow tied to this place?
VOICE: The nation of Israel is a resurrected nation. So what if there was going to be a resurrection of another people, an enemy people of Israel? The Bible speaks about this whole war as a dragon, representing the enemy, attacking a woman, representing Israel.
VOICE: Civilian deaths on both sides represent victories on the part of the dragon.
VOICE: Hamas burned everything within their ability to maximize the civilian casualty.
VOICE: Came back to a land that was largely barren, and we brought it back alive, and we are going to keep it!
VOICE: The devil hates the Jewish people because they represent the existence of God!
VOICE: Because without that Jewish foundation, there is no Christianity.
GLENN: So let us -- go to the Dragons Prophecy here for a second. What is the case of the Dragons Prophecy?
DINESH: Glenn, in the Book of Revelation 12, there is a depiction of a dragon representing the devil, going to war against a woman, representing Israel. And the woman is pregnant, representing the Messiah. So this is the sort of spiritual backdrop. It's a confirmation of what people sometimes say, that underneath our political fight, there is a spiritual war. But people don't often ask, who is fighting? Like who are the combatants?
And the answer is, this is a war that has been raging between sort of God and the devil from the very beginning of time. And the provocative idea in the film is that the devil cannot overthrow God, and so the -- the devil tries to find out, what is it that God cares about? Let me ruin that!
So in Genesis 1, for example, why does the serpent target Adam and Eve? Adam and Eve have nothing to the devil, but the devil goes, "I want to ruin them, because this is God's cherished creation. If I can ruin them, I can get my revenge against God."
And I think for the same reason, the devil targets the Jews and the Christians. The Jews, because they are the original chosen people. And so the devil's agenda is really simple: Drive them out of their ancestral homeland from the river to the sea. And also, put a big Islamic victory arch right on top of their holiest sight, which is the site of the Solomonic Temple.
And then, of course, the Christians are, the Bible itself, refers to Christians as like spiritual Israelites. And so the Devil is like, I hate that too. I will persecute and harass and destroy the Christians no less than the Jews."
And, look, this is not just sort of idle Biblical speculation. You can see this happening right in front of us in the world today.
GLENN: Talk to me about the meaning of the word Hamas, Palestinians, where that came from. Can you take us through that a little bit?
DINESH: Yeah, this is the genius of Jonathan Khan and his book, The Dragon Prophesy. He points out that Hamas in Arabic means something like force or strength, but in Hebrew, interestingly, the -- the word means violence and destruction. And if you -- in Hebrew, it literally says things like, "Lord, save me from the men of Hamas, or Hamas dwells in the dark places of the earth."
GLENN: I had to go to my Bible to look it up.
It does say that. It does say that. It's crazy!
DINESH: Yes. Not only that, Glenn. But the four colors of the apocalypse, mentioned in the Book of Revelation, which reflects famine, death, and destruction. The white horse, the black horse, the green horse, the red horse.
Han points out. He goes, just take a look at the Palestinian flag. It's made up of four colors. Basically, white for the white horse. Red for the red horse. Black for the black horse. Green for the green horse. And all of this, I think, within -- if there's a single connection, you can be like, "Hmm. I don't know."
But there are so many of these connections out in the film.
GLENN: So many.
DINESH: That, ultimately, it's almost like, you have to sort of -- you have to step back and reconsider if you are even understanding what's happening in front of you, in the widest and sort of deepest possible light.
GLENN: I have to tell you, I don't know about, you know -- I haven't studied this, you know, enough. I just watched the movie once.
And it's worth watching. But you will go back to Scriptures, and you will look it up. It is worth pondering. Because it shows you, where we might be right now. And the battle that we're preparing for.
Which is a really terrifying thing. But I would rather know it, so I can be prepared for it.
You also -- you know, did a lot of archaeological stuff. What stood out to you in the research that you did?
DINESH: What stood out to me, Glenn, was that for 2000 years, and even more, there are figures that appear in the Bible, Pontius Pilate, Isaiah, Jeremiah. We're going for King David. We're talking now about three -- a thousand DC.
So 3,000 years ago. And even 30 or 40 years ago, if you said, prove to me that these figures are real. Prove to me, outside the Bible, using historical or archaeological evidence, you couldn't do it. Remarkably, just in the last few decades, there are conscriptions and stones and clay seals, coming out of the ground, that are showing that these Biblical figures are real, the Bible is an account of real people and true events. So you could dispute the theology of the Bible. You can question the miracle. But the historicity of the Bible is being resoundingly affirmed.
And it's almost as if the world has become more secular and pulled away from God, God is speaking back.
But not in the thunderous language of Genesis 1. You know, in the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth. But rather, in the kind of prosaic language of science and archaeology.
GLENN: Yeah. It was really amazing. Because you don't think -- we live in our time. And so you don't think of the times that have come. David didn't exist.
You know, these stories are true. They didn't exist. And now we're finding all of the archaeological evidence, and we just -- at least I did. I just accepted, that, "Yeah. These -- the big things, we knew existed." No. No. We didn't. It's now just being proven now because of what we're finding in archaeological digs.
DINESH: Not only that, but for centuries, really for two centuries going back to the enlightenment, you have the armchair critics who would read the Bible and say, "Well, it looks to me, this was written several hundred years later."
But now we know that that can't be the case, because there are minor -- minor figures in the Bible. And, you know, the royal steward of King Josiah in, like, the 6th or 7th Century DC, and suddenly a seal comes out of the ground in Jerusalem and there's this name on the seal. Now, nobody 300 years later -- this is like asking for the names of interns who worked for Donald Trump. Hundreds of years from now. Who would possibly know their names and identities?
So this is why the Bible is being affirmed, even at the level of excruciating detail.
GLENN: The fact that everyone said that Pontius Pilate didn't exist. And the stair that has his name carved into it, 2000 years ago, that was discovered.
It's those things that you're like, "I mean, how do you deny some of this stuff now?"
I mean, it's just piling up.
DINESH: It's -- it's utterly impossible. And then we are in Jerusalem, and we go up to this place called Sheillo, in the middle part of Israel, and we find these remarkable red heifers. I've read the book about the red heifers. This has to do with the fact that in the end times, the dome of the rock will come down. The Jewish Temple -- the Solomonic Temple will be rebuilt, and some of the rabbis are actually preparing for temple services, which involve the ashes of a red heifer.
So all of this is not just interpretations. You have people in Jerusalem. And in Israel, actually preparing for this. In a practical way.
GLENN: Oh, yeah.
In fact, one of the things that they said. Let me take a break. And have you come back and answer this. One of the things they said.
Because we were talking about the red rest offers two years ago.
And they were talking about maybe making, you know, red heifers into ashes to prepare.
And Hamas said, at the time, that's one of the reasons why they -- they went after on October 7th, was because of the red heifers. And you go into that. And what they really call October 7th.