RADIOJune 25, 2025

Bannon: Did Trump get DUPED by the Deep State?

“We’re already in the beginning of the kinetic part of the Third World War.” Steve Bannon joins Glenn Beck to react to President Trump’s ceasefire deal between Israel and Iran, which was on shaky ground just hours after it was announced. Is there a chance that the Deep State is feeding the administration bad information? Steve explains why he believes Deep State CIA operatives may be pushing for regime change in Iran.

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GLENN: Host of Bannon's War Room. Former White House chief strategist. Steve Bannon.

Welcome to the program, Steve. How are you?

STEVE: Hey, Glenn. Thanks for having me.

GLENN: You bet. Stu and I were just saying. This is like fast and furious.

I can't keep up with all the action that's going on.

It looks like the cease-fire has fallen apart. Donald Trump is not happy about it.

In case you missed what he said, headed to the helicopter this morning, can we play that, Sara?

Do we have it?

The edited version, please.
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DONALD: Israel violated it too. Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs the likes of which I've never seen before. The biggest load we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay. Now you have 12 hours, you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them. So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iran either.

But I'm really unhappy if Israel is going out this morning. Because the one rocket that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land, I'm not happy about that.

Well, we basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard, that they don't know what the (bleep) they're doing. Do you understand that?

GLENN: Yes. Mr. President, I think we understand where you're coming from.

What are your thoughts, Steve?

STEVE: Look, you know the president as well as anybody. And you can tell, he's put a lot of his spirit into this. A lot of his focus. And he has worked out -- I mean, I've never seen him, quite frankly, this mad, on any topic.

He's really worked up.

And I think he, you know, really went overtime, once with the Qataris. And UAE. And got to work at this cease-fire.

And once everybody put town their guns. And, of course, they're slogging it out.

I think Mark Prudhoe over at Axios was reporting even more than that, was going to Marine One and into NATO.

I think he had a phone call with Netanyahu, and really got on him, about this.

So, you know, this thing is very tenuous, but the President has gone the extra yard, to make sure everybody, you know, puts down their guns and have both sides try to figure this out.

GLENN: You know, I saw a tweet from him this morning, that said, Israel, do not, you know, follow through on these bombs.

And he -- I've never seen him do this before.

Do not do it! Donald J. Trump president of the United States.

I -- you know, for anybody who ever says that, oh, Donald Trump is being led by those Jews, and Israel is telling him. No. No. Donald Trump is clearly the one in charge here. Would you agree with that?

STEVE: Well, I think, let's discuss it. But I think on this right here, people should take that as a papal bowl. You know, I've never seen him actually do that even in the Ukraine situation, the CCP, the Russians, even some of the toughest situations with Soleimani and others in the first term.

This is -- some of those Truth Social posts were pretty blunt. And like I say, when President Trump is worked up like this, particularly when he's put so much time and he's working for peace, and wants everybody to put the guns down. People should take this as a papal bowl. I think it's that serious.

GLENN: I want to come back to what we -- you said, let's discuss that. And I do want to discuss that.

Before we do, let me just follow up here.

You keep saying, that he spent so much time on it.

I think he has -- I think he has risked more in this last week, with his own base.

Than I've seen him put.

I mean, he put all of the chips on the table. I mean, this could have been an absolute disaster.

Who knows. Maybe it is, in the end.

Maybe it's not.

Maybe it's a Nobel Prize, that he should. Another one, that he should win.

But he -- the base is so divided on this.

I think that's part of the frustration too.

He put all the chips on the table.

Can we just get people to do what they say, they are going to do. Would you agree with that?

STEVE: I would agree, and I think it's even beyond the politics of the base. I mean, Glenn, you know better than anybody, how torn non-interventionists are on this topic.

But maybe it's actually, you know, as commander-in-chief and the resources and the accents.
And the men and women in harm's way. Particularly, as I've argued, we're already at the beginning of the kinetic part of the circle.

If you look at 1939 or 1914 or '41, from Poland and Russia, there's, you know, the guns.

Two million people dead or wounded in Ukraine, and look at the Houthis in the red state.
I mean, this is much -- we're already in the kinetic part of the Third World War. And now this arc of civility.

Cashmere and Pakistan. President Trump is going out of his way to try to be a peacemaker here. And to bring this thing to a conclusion, so people can start to negotiate. We saw the beginnings of that over in the Middle East. So, yes. Definitely politics. The internal politics. The MAGA movement. It's familiar with this. Anybody.

I think it's far deeper than that. And he put it on the table. I think we have to question, why the hell are we even here right now?

Why on the 24th of June, in the year of 2025, in the situation with 10 million alien invader on Biden's watch. In the country.

These neo Confederates, running California, these sanctuary cities. The big, beautiful deal, which has so many huge issues we have to address.

We have spent time talking about this. So many things going on. It's tough. As an active shooting.

GLENN: So, you know, because I've been listening to you. And I think we agree on a lot of stuff here. Neither one of us wanted him to drop the bombs. You're stronger on that, than I am.

But, you know, now that it's been dropped. Now we just have to deal with whatever we're going to deal with.

But I think we both stand on the same place on, my support -- when I read in the Scriptures, you know, who those will bless Israel, I will bless.

That doesn't mean I go town every path that Israel wants. I don't have to agree with them.

I don't have to do anything. The way I believe I'm to bless them, is to say, they have a right to exist. Let's not do another Holocaust. And allow them to use their own power for self-defense.

They've demonstrated they can do that. We don't have to get involved in everything that they're doing.

Would you agree, that that is a reasonable stance?

Or what's the nuance.

VOICE: Yeah. I would take it a little further.

Not just personally. But we're supporters of Israel and the state of Israel.

GLENN: Right.

STEVE: From October 7th, you know, you look at Israel in Gaza, which is messy. We've been a big supporter of there, going against Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Our only message is, you know, when you have to go to hell, go through as quick as possible.

In Sumeria, what they've done with Hezbollah is monumental. Because Hezbollah, as you know, Glenn, was considered I guess as one of the best countries in the world. What they've done in southern Syria. The Israelis have done militarily, I think and geopolitically, extraordinary war since the surprise attack. But there's just so many questions about this.

And so many questions about why we're so tangled up in this thing right now, that -- and I just think we are anxious. Because to continue to support Israel, and again, look, the support that they really need. We don't have a formal alliance.

We have a special relationship.

They're essentially a protectorate of the United States. And if that's the case, and we should not be in the protectorate business. We shouldn't -- they finally guaranteed to pay five percent. I mean, think of this huge. If you remember, Israel laughed at us for paying 2 percent, which they agreed to in President Trump's first term.

And one of the points was, we can't have Western Europe and the elites in Western Europe as protecting the United States because we can't afford it anymore.

He's making huge moves there, and that's why I think in this situation, we really have to go through and see exactly how this came about.

And I think it will be -- it will illuminate how it goes forward, to sort this mess out.

GLENN: So do you think we would have dropped the bomb if Israel would have dropped that bomb?

I mean, that bomb was made for that particular run. And we have been rehearsing that run for 15-plus years.

Specifically, and nobody else has a weapon, that was built for those -- for that particular drop.

If Israel could have had it. Do you think Donald Trump would have font involved. Because I don't think he would have.

STEVE: Glenn, let me take a slightly different direction.

In '79, my destroyer -- I was in the Pacific fleet. And we were going for our second west pack. You know, terms, and we got the call on the rubber forest.

We were in DESRON '23. The whole famous destroyers -- we got the call that the hostages had been taken. It took us a couple of months to get there. We were one of the first battle groups ever to get to the north Iranian sea. And we were there. I think we rotated out a month before the assault.

But we tracked the assault every day. And, Glenn, you can turn up, like you're not in Kansas anymore.

GLENN: Yeah.

STEVE: The scale of the place is so big. It's so forbidding. You know, the ocean. And if you've ever seen the sun.

It's just so complicated.

As you know, that one was a complete, abject failure.

And I think the region would not serve on any of those ships on the battlefield. Could have told you 90 days before the launch, there was going to be a disaster.

Just given the logistics of it.

This -- it was the tomahawk missiles that went to the third site, and destroyed it above ground.

Essentially, Israel had done nothing, to take down any of the nuclear facilities. Let's go back to the way we had to get to the heart of it. Why did this come out of nowhere?

The intelligence that we're told, the intelligence is different, and this is what happened to Marco Rubio and other people.

That the intelligence is different that happen the indulgence that I see the community have.

You know, classified hearings with Tulsi Gabbard and Ratcliff.

And my understanding is Ratcliff presented additional intelligence that said, this was absolutely an emergency. And had to happen.

And that's what they said, had to happen, last Thursday.

Although, it shouldn't be lost on anybody, that the strike itself was so much to take up the nuclear facilities.

It was essentially a strike, to the senior military. Maybe not to the -- to the religious, that ran the state. And I thought that was just very suspicious.

Including the fact that President Trump had a negotiation meeting set for Sunday.

Now, it wasn't going well, even though they came along. But the first thing we heard was that Ratcliff -- I mean, Whitcaulf (phonetic) couldn't have a meeting because all the negotiators had been killed.

Now, it turned out later, one of the senior guys was not. But I think we have to find out that, like what was the emergency? Why did this actually have to happen?

What was the Intel that said, that they were going to get a bomb.

Surely, the 12, 13 months away, which is what this tradition said. It happened. If that was the case, that's a very different -- we had not gone to that escalatory scale, to diplomacy.

Certainly hadn't gone to economic warfare, particularly Glenn, as you know, cutting off -- not allowing the ship oil to the Chinese Communist Party, which I think is 60 percent of their cash flow.

So many things on the escalatory ladder.

And if you want regime change, I always think the best way to do it is through economic warfare.

Where President Trump got so tough, when he dropped out of the JCPO. And that's why in '22, you had the first time, I think they had a major revolt in the streets.

That only lasted a couple of weeks. That was because they sanctioned President Trump again.
Then we get to the bombing run.

The bombing run is why -- why -- why Los Angeles class submarine. Thirty tomahawks on a facility that is above ground.

And I would love to see the dashboard.

President Trump, I believe that we obliterated it. But I haven't seen any ballistic missile capabilities that can get to the United States tomorrow, San Francisco tomorrow.

I think this whole thing was from the beginning. I think you can look at Fox News, which I really fault here.

This is clearly about a regime change.

I think the Netanyahu government saw an opportunity to do a regime change.

Until I see otherwise, it's an absolute mammalian.

That's the reason I was really against any type of military engagement. Now, it turns out, magnificent logistics, and people don't realize how complicated that was, and how unincredible.

But President Trump, I think it's one and done.

And now he's got a ceasefire. And he's very specific. I think he came out today. I think Bloomberg put out and said that there's no regime change.

But my point is the opposite. Because this is going to suck us into -- if not open combat. This will suck us into just the mind share of President Trump, to have to engage here. When we have so many other president --

GLENN: So -- I want to get -- I want to get into that. I have two things. I have to take a break. Then I will come back with two things.

First of all, I think this is why President Trump was so angry today.

He sees that Israel is going for a regime change, and I don't think he is going to get involved in anything, regarding regime change. He knows that could be an absolute disaster. It could be great. It could be an absolute disaster. And more likely, an absolute disaster. And that's why he's so angry with that. I want to come back and ask you a couple of questions.

One, so is this Deep State? Or is it Israel?

And I would love to hear your upon Israel, and how they might be -- I'm gathering here, you're thinking that they're kind of leading us by the nose.

I disagree with that. I would love to hear your point on that.

We'll get there in 60 seconds.

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I mean, you have seen President Trump in, you know, more situations than most people.

And I -- you know, he has even said, I didn't really know what I was up against. On my first term.

But I am now.

And I have a hard time believing that he's going to be duped by the Deep State. Do you think he is being duped? Or just -- just being moved around, by the Deep State?

STEVE: I don't think. First of all, I don't think it's Israel. I'm a huge supporter of Israel.

GLENN: Okay. Good. I know that. I didn't mean to imply anything differently.

STEVE: No. But here's my concern. My concern -- and I have recommended, listen, when I did the hostage crisis fail, one of the reasons Jimmy Carter being an engineer just had one source of information. You've got one source of information from the apparatus.

They had horrible group think. And they made ethic, fundamental bad decisions, that led to a catastrophe. And really hurt America from decades afterwards.

And part of his failed presidency. What did President Reagan do when he first got in? Bill Casey and people -- pretty street smart, savvy people. And said, we need to set up an end date. We can't just rely on the apparatuses, given particular to the fact that they were quite critical to Nixon and Kissinger and (inaudible) everything. Remember, this plan was eventually to take us down an evil empire.

How did that start? It started with the team lead. That you first have a -- you go through the analysis, just like you go to a doctor, to get a second opinion.

It's the old measure twice, and cut once.

And I think -- I think President Trump is not being manipulated. I'm just not so sure, that all the information that's coming to him is the information -- like I said, let's see where the -- I may be wrong.

But I would like -- it's -- Trump -- John Ratcliff and the CIA. Excuse me. Come for -- whatever this emergency -- this emergency, that we will break out, have a bomb. Have a weapon against us. Of course, listen.

The mullahs and the ayatollah are a bad guy. The rumor -- can talk about a guy, who was shot in the back.

GLENN: Right.

STEVE: He deserves to be taken. These guys are as bad as you get.

GLENN: So --

STEVE: But once you get into regime change -- we're noninterventionist for a reason.

GLENN: Right.

INSIDE Trump’s soul: How a bullet changed his heart forever

“I have a new purpose,” then-candidate Donald Trump told reporter Salena Zito after surviving the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. Salena joins Glenn Beck to reveal what Trump told her about God, his purpose in life, and why he really said, “Fight! Fight! Fight!”, as she details in her new book, “Butler: The Untold Story of the Near Assassination of Donald Trump and the Fight for America's Heartland”.

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GLENN: Salena, congratulations on your book. It is so good.

Just started reading it. Or listening to it, last night.

And I wish you would have -- I wish you would have read it. But, you know, the lady you have reading it is really good.

I just enjoy the way you tell stories.

The writing of this is the best explanation on who Trump supporters are. That I think I've ever read, from anybody.

It's really good.

And the description of your experience there at the edge of the stage with Donald Trump is pretty remarkable as well. Welcome to the program.

SALENA: Thank you, Glenn. Thank you so much for having me.

You know, I was thinking about this, as I was ready to come on. You and I have been along for this ride forever. For what?

Since 2006? 2005?

Like 20 years, right?

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

SALENA: And I've been chronicling the American people for probably ten more years, before that. And it's really remarkable to me, as watching how this coalition has grown. Right?

And watching how people have the -- have become more aspirational.

And that's -- and that is what the conservative populist coalition is, right?

It is the aspirations of many, but the celebration of the individual.

And chronicling them, yeah. Has been -- has been, a great honor.

GLENN: You know, I was thinking about this yesterday, when -- when Elon Musk said he was starting another party.

And somebody asked me, well, isn't he doing what the Tea Party tried to do?

No. The Tea Party was not going to start a new party.

It was to -- you know, it was to coerce and convince the Republican Party to do the right thing. And it worked in many ways. It didn't accomplish what we hoped.

But it did accomplish a lot of things.

Donald Trump is a result of the Tea Party.

I truly believe that. And a lot of the people that were -- right?

Were with Donald Trump, are the people that were with the Tea Party.

SALENA: That's absolutely right.

So that was the inception.

So American politics has always had movements, that have been just outside of a party. Or within a party.

That galvanize and broaden the coalition. Right? They don't take away. Or walk away, and become another party.

If anything, if there is a third party out there, it's almost a Republican Party.

Because it has changed in so many viable and meaningful ways. And the Tea Party didn't go away. It strengthened and broadened the Republican Party. Because these weren't just Republicans that became part of this party.

It was independents. It was Democrats.

And just unhappy with the establishment Republicans. And unhappy with Democrats.

And that -- that movement is what we -- what I see today.

What I see every day. What I saw that day, in butler, when I showed I happen at that rally.

As I do, so many rallies, you know, throughout my career. And that one was riveting and changed everything.

GLENN: You made a great case in the opening chapter. You talk about how things were going for Donald Trump.

And how this moment really did change everything for Donald Trump.

Changed the trajectory, changed the mood.

I mean, Elon Musk was not on the Trump train, until this.

SALENA: Yeah.

GLENN: Moment. What do I -- what changed? How -- how did that work?

And -- and I contend, that we would have much more profound change, had the media actually done their job and reported this the way it really was. Pragmatism

SALENA: You know, and people will find this in the book. I'm laying on the ground with an agent on top of me.

I'm 4 feet away from the president.

And there's -- there's notices coming up on my phone. Saying, he was hit by broken glass.

And to this take, that remains part of this sibling culture, in American politics.

Because reporters were -- were so anxious to -- to right what they believed happened.

As opposed to what happened.

And it's been a continual frustration of mine, as a reporter, who is on the ground, all the time.

And I'll tell you, what changed in that moment.

And I say a nuance, and I believe nuance is dead in American journalism.

But it was a nuance and it was a powerful conversation, that I had with President Trump, the next day. He called me the next morning.

But it's a powerful conversation I had with him, just two weeks ago.

When he made this decision to say, fight, fight, fight.

People have put in their heads, why they think he said it. But he told me why he said that. And he said, Salena, in that moment, I was not Donald Trump the man. I was a former president. I was quite possibly going to be president again.

And I had an obligation to the country, and to the office that I have served in, to project strength. To project resolve.

To project that we will not be defeated.

And it's sort of like a symbolic eagle, that is always -- you know, that symbol that we look at, when we think about our country.

He said, that's why I said that. I didn't want the people behind me panicking. I didn't want the people watching, panicking.

I had to show strength. And it's that nuance -- that I think people really picked up on.

And galvanized people.

GLENN: So he told me, when he was laying down on the stage.

And you can hear him. Let me get up. Let me get up.

I've got to get up.

He told me, as I was laying on the stage. I asked him, what were you thinking? What was going through your head? Now, Salena, I don't know about you.

But with me. It would be like, how do I get off the stage? My first was survival.

He said, what was going on through his mind was, you're not pathetic. This is pathetic.

You're not afraid. Get up.

Get up.

And so is that what informed his fight, fight, fight, of that by the time that he's standing up, he's thinking, I'm a symbol? Or do you think he was thinking, I'm a symbol, this looks pathetic. It makes you look weak.

Stand up. How do you think that actually happened?

SALENA: He thinks, and we just talked about this weeks ago. He -- you know, and this is something that he's really thought about.

Right? You know, he's gone over and over and over. And also, purpose and God. Right? These are things that have lingered with him.

You know, he -- he thought, yes.

He did think, it was pathetic that he was on the ground. But he wasn't thinking about, I'm Donald Trump. It's pathetic.

He's thinking, my country is symbolically on the ground. I need to get up, and I need to show that my country is strong.

That our country is resolute.

And I need people to see that.

We can't go on looking like pathetic.

Right?

And I think that then goes to that image of Biden.

GLENN: You have been with so many presidents.

How many presidents do you think that you've personally been with, would have thought that and reacted that way?

SALENA: Probably only Reagan. Reagan would have. Reagan probably would have thought that.

And if you remember how he was out like standing outside.

You know, waving out the window. Right?

After he was shot.

GLENN: At the hospital, right.

SALENA: Had he not been knocked out, unconscious, you know, he probably would have done the same thing.

Because he was someone who deeply believed in American exceptionalism.

And American exceptionalism does not go lay on the ground.

GLENN: And the symbol.

Right. The symbol of the presidency.

SALENA: Yeah. Absolutely. And I think that affects him today.

GLENN: So let me go back to God.

Because you talked to him the next day. And your book Butler.

He calls you up.

I love the fact that your parents would be ashamed of you. On what you said to him.

The language you used. That you just have to read the book.

It's just a great part.

But he calls you the next morning. And wants to know if you're okay.

And you -- you then start talking to him, about God.

And I was -- I was thinking about this, as I was listening to it. You know, Lincoln said, I wasn't -- I wasn't a Christian.

Even though, he was.

I wasn't a Christian, when I was elected. I wasn't a Christian when my son died.

I became a Christian at Gettysburg.

Is -- is -- I mean, I believe Donald Trump always believes in God, et cetera, et cetera.

Do you think there was a real profound change at Butler with him?

SALENA: Absolutely. You know, he called me seven times that day. Seven times, the take after seven.

GLENN: Crazy.

SALENA: Talked about. And I think he was looking for someone that he knew, that was there. And to try to sort it out.

Right? And I let him do most of the talking. I didn't pressure him.

At all. I believed that he was having -- you know, he was struggling. And he needed to just talk. And I believed my purpose was to listen.

Right? I know other reporters would have handled it differently. And that's okay. That's not the kind of reporter that I am.

And I myself was having my own like, why didn't I die?

Right?

Because it went right over my head.

And -- and so I -- he had the conversation about God.

He's funny. I thought it was the biggest mosquito in the world that hit me.

But he had talked profoundly about purpose. You know, and God.

And how God was in that moment.

It --

GLENN: I love the way you -- in the book, I love the way you said that as he's kind of working it out in his own he head.

He was like, you know, I -- I -- I always knew that there was some sort of, you know -- that God was present.

He said, but now that this has happened.

I look back at all of the trials.

All of the tribulations. Literally, the trials.

All of the things that have happened. And he's like, I realized God was there the whole time.

SALENA: Yes. He does. And it's fascinating to have been that witness to history, to have those conversations with him. Because I'm telling you. And y'all know, I can talk. I didn't say much of anything.

I just -- I just listened. I felt that was my purpose, in that moment.

To give him that space, to work it out.

I'm someone that is, you know, believes in God.

I'm Catholic. I followed my faith.

And -- and so, I thought, well, this is why God put me here. Right?

And to -- to have that -- to hear him talk about purpose, to hear him say, Salena. Why did I put a chart down?

I'm like, sir. I don't know. I thought you were Ross Perot for a second.

He never has a chart. And he laughed. And then he said, why did I put that chart down?

By that term, I never turned my head away from people at the rally. That's true.

That relationship is very transactional. It's very -- they feed off of each other.

It's a very emotive moment when you attend a rally. Because he has a way of talking at a rally. That you believe that you are seeing.

And he said, and I never turn my head away.

I never turn my head away.

Why did I turn my head away?

I don't remember consciously thinking about turning my head away. And then he says to me, that was God, wasn't it?

Yes, sir. It was. It was God.

And he said, that's -- that's why I have a new purpose.

And so, Glenn. I think it's important, when you look at the breadth of what has happened, since he was sworn in.

You see that purpose, every day.

He doesn't let up.

He continues going.

And it brings back to the beginning of the book.

Where you find out, that there was another president that was shot at in Butler.

And that was George Washington. And how different the country would have been, had he died in that moment.

And now think about how different the country would be, had President Trump died in that moment. There would be --

GLENN: We're talking to -- we're talking to Salena Zito. About her new book called Butler. The assassination attempt on President Trump. And it is riveting.

And, you know, it is so good. I wish the press would read it. Because it really explains who we are, who Trump supporters are. Who are, you know, red staters. It is so good at that. She's the best at that.

Is Pam Bondi hiding something? The truth behind the Epstein tape blunder

Glenn Beck makes the case that Attorney General Pam Bondi should resign over her handling of the Jeffrey Epstein investigation - not because of any potential cover-up, but solely because of how incompetent her rollout of the investigation has been.

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GLENN: Okay. I want Pam Bondi fired. I want Pam Bondi fired.

STU: This escalated quickly.

GLENN: And here's why. Here's why. Do you release a tape that is supposed to be the evidence, do you release the tape, and then let the public find out for themselves, that there's an edit in the tape?

STU: That's an excusable mistake. I mean, I don't know that she did it, I guess.

GLENN: You know what, it could have been just a digital jump in the tape.

It's a minute lost. Okay?

So let's just say -- let's just give them every benefit of the doubt, and say, it was just a digital jump in the tape.

Okay?

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: Do you not put an intern on it, just to say, watch the clock!

And make sure there's no jumps or edit in the tape.

Because we know.

STU: Everyone is going to watch.

GLENN: 300 million people will be watching it. And somebody will take the time to watch the clock.

So watch the clock.

Is every minute accounted for? You didn't do that? You didn't do that.

STU: I think you can pretty easily say, that if you wanted to, right?

And your goal was -- you wanted to edit out -- it would be very easy to edit in a minute of footage.

GLENN: Correct.

STU: And that no one knows. Just make the clock continuous.

GLENN: Correct.

STU: It would be clear.

If you were trying to cover that, it would be --

GLENN: This is incompetence.

STU: However, highlighting your point to incompetence. At the very least, if you have a jump, you say at the beginning. There's an error at this point.

This is -- we know this is there.

You know, the fact that you release it as proof without acknowledging that minute is -- I just don't understand how you can make a mistake like that.

When your goal here is supposedly to put everyone's mind at ease.

I don't know. I don't know.

But there's more to it, than that.

GLENN: Hang on just a second.

Let me go back to before we leave. Just this one.

Remember when I said yesterday, your wife finds receipts for you buying presents at Tiffany's that she never got.

That, you know, you were in a hotel that she never came to.

You were -- you were not coming home for dinner. You had long weekends and everything else. It doesn't mean you were cheating.

STU: And a traveling jewelry investor.

GLENN: Right. But she -- she should demand the evidence, because it -- you don't want that hanging there. On your relationship.

It will just fester.

Now, you give her the evidence. But then she finds out that, oh. Well, it's the wrong receipt.

It was a -- it was a receipt, you know, that you explained away. But what you -- what you used as proof, was not the same receipt.

You were like, no.

See, honey. This is when we went to the hotel, together.

And she looks at it. And she's like, oh, okay.

And then she has it for a while. And she looks at it.

Like, wait a minute. The date is different on this one. This is not the same receipt.

That's a problem! That's a problem.

And it doesn't mean that he was cheating on you.

It just means. What the hell is going on?

Are you this stupid?

STU: And it would certainly make you have legitimate questions about --

GLENN: It just makes you question things for. Now, if it wasn't for the jump in the tape. And I'm not even going to call it an edit. Because I don't think it was an edit. I think it was jump in the tape. As if the jump in the tape wasn't incompetent enough for you, listen to this one. Jason is here with us.

Hi, Jason.

JASON: Hi, Glenn. What a morning, wow.

GLENN: What a morning it is, wow.

So, Jason, what else have you found?

JASON: Okay. So the more and more we looked at this tape.

I started looking.

It was weird. Because it looked like a janitor's closet.

Door 26.

And you were like, shut up, this is not a janitor's closet. I don't know what this is.

But I was like, I can tell you, there's a woman that looks like a janitor that comes out and supposedly the person that that they're saying is his cell. Which they're not, by the way. This was people on social media was saying, this is his cell.

Was coming out with a trash can.
So I looked around to see, if there was any confirmation of what this cell was.

I found an OIG report from the Justice Department two years ago, that shows the camera angle, and the one camera that was actually working.

So you can see the diagram, and I think we actually have it if you're watching this right now. There's a diagram that shows where this camera is.
It shows where Epstein's cell is. And the big thing that stands out, Glenn, is this camera does not even have eyes on Epstein's cell at all. Like, not at all.

STU: Incredible.
JASON: There's four different wings here. There is a service wing. And that's what we're looking at, with the Door 46.

That's a service entrance, or staff entrance. Now, you can't see on the lower level of Epstein's cell at all.

So this is what it makes it look even crazier for that one minute that's missing.

And I will say -- that okay. Let me just say it this way.

I've spent years and years and years, looking at surveillance and security camera footage as you know, in my previous job.

I've never seen an over one-minute jump right at a time that would be very, very I don't know, just convenient.

I've never seen that before. In all my years looking at these things.

STU: There's no reason. Why would you say that minute would be convenient? You're just saying, that one minute being gone could be convenient.

JASON: It's convenient in this entire time frame.

Based on this camera angel.

It's convenient, that 60 seconds would be great for someone walking across that lower level.

60 seconds would be perfect if you wanted to conceal the fact that someone would have worked across that area. That's why --

GLENN: Here's why -- here's why I didn't buy into this, at first.

Okay. Sixty seconds, to open the door, kill him. And then leave.

Okay?

But look at the diagram. If you look at the diagram, where the camera is, there is a -- just a -- maybe a foot space, where the camera is not able to see. Where there is a door, from the staff area.

Okay?

STU: Are you looking at -- because I think -- it's hard to tell from this.

Are you looking -- is this diagram the top floor or the bottom floor.

Jason, do you have any idea?

JASON: So I think Epstein is on.

STU: The upper floors. Right.

GLENN: Okay. So I'm looking at where the staff area is, okay. See the yellow triangle and the red box, where it's his cell.

STU: Yes.

GLENN: Okay. So there is one way out of the staff area. And it's right below the camera.

STU: Like underneath the floor, essentially, of where the camera is.

GLENN: Yeah. On the floor. If the camera is up on a ceiling. Is that what you -- what -- you're saying.

STU: Yeah. The camera is -- the camera is from on the second floor, shooting down.

And the evidence that they're basically proclaiming here. And this is true.

You know, what Jason is saying, is true.

That you can't see the door of the Epstein cell. What you can see is a common area, that in theory, you would need to cross to get to the cell.

STU: What you're saying, Glenn. The camera does not actually show 100 percent of the potential paths to get there. Right?

JASON: It doesn't.

STU: If you cross right in front of the banister here on the bottom floor.

GLENN: There's no way you will see.

Okay. So wait a minute. I just want to make sure. We are talking about the same thing. If you look at the videotape, it's the white room, down stairs.

Right? And so it's where the garbage can is, down there.

STU: Below that.

GLENN: So Epstein's room would be below the garbage can.

STU: No. Epstein's room, if you look out -- the area that you can see.

And I apologize for radio listeners here that aren't seeing the visual. But I want to make sure we get this right.

There's an open area, where the banister is, and it shows the common area behind it. Right?

If you go on the right side of the common area from our view.

Outside of the view, to the right. Is where the entrance to the cell is.

The stairs up to the cell.

GLENN: So all you have to do. You don't have to cross the floor.

Why do you have to cross the floor? You can go through the door. You can go through the door, and see. And just stay against the wall.

STU: Yeah. I guess, maybe.

And Jason, maybe you know this.

Maybe it's explained somewhere else in the report.

Is it possible that they're saying, all the other entrances, to get to that area, have cameras. So they didn't see anybody walking into those areas.

GLENN: Why wouldn't you show the other --

STU: Right.

GLENN: You know, this is not proof that anybody did anything.

STU: No!

GLENN: This is proof, they're -- Pam Bondi needs to be fired.

Who is rolling this out?

The Little Rascals.

Panky, look, I've got some videotape. What are you doing? This is ridiculous!

This is such absolute incompetence! Incompetence.

STU: It's incredible. The fact that they would release that because I think everybody had the same -- even Jason, as a super-duper skeptic on this, even you had the assumption that what they were saying was, the green doors were the cells, or at least the cell area.

GLENN: Right, that's what I thought.

STU: That's what everyone thought, when they saw it. Now, to be clear, the report, as you pointed out, Jason. Previously had stated in June, this diagram that shows they're talking about the common area.

So that's not like -- but like, they, A, should have been very clear about that. What they're talking about is the common area.

They shouldn't put that in the announcement.

GLENN: Stu, we're going upstairs today.

Okay? To my house. And, you know, I have that balcony, upstairs by the fireplace.

Where you haven't -- like at midnight last night.

Because it's like a day's journey from anywhere.

GLENN: Right. But we're going to go upstairs. And you put a camera, okay? Down into the great room.

STU: Right. You want to recreate it in your house.

GLENN: I do. And I want to show you, I can get to places in the room, as long -- because there's a whole floor.

The balcony shows part, but it doesn't show the door.

I can -- wait until -- I got to prove, that we're going to do this live on YouTube, or something on -- maybe on X today, as soon as we get off the air.

Because I -- this is ridiculous.

STU: It's unbelievable. Again, it doesn't prove that this -- you know, he was killed.

However, it is -- the fact that they're releasing a video that has this many holes to it, to a passing -- again, the person you're trying to make feel better about all of this is someone very interested in the detail of it. Right?

It's not someone who has a passing interest. You're not releasing this to some person who kind of knows who Jeffrey Epstein is. This is intentionally designed to try to push down some weird argument as a conspiracy theory.

GLENN: You're also -- also -- and, you know what, I'm not arguing anything.

I'm arguing this is incompetence.

STU: Yes.

GLENN: I'm not arguing that he killed himself.

Or he didn't kill -- I don't know!

I don't know. I don't know.

But this isn't helping.

You know, not only are you saying, that these people have some interest in it.

Well, you know, these people are interested in the details.

No!

You're releasing it to a bumbling of people, who many of them have the details. But many of them are hostile to what you're saying.

So you better have a buttoned up case.

STU: Right.

GLENN: You better not have anything that they find out later, wait. Wait a minute.

What?

STU: Right. And it could be -- you know, you could make the couple of arguments that you probably could make here.

One, they don't actually care about this. And they're annoyed they have to deal with it.

So they threw it out there.

Terrible incompetence. If that's the truth. That's inexcusable.

The other thing they might argue. And this could be part of it.

There were reports at least, that this got leaked. That this came out essentially earlier than they wanted it to.

So the rollout was not as planned, as they thought it was going to be.

Axios reported this exclusively. Now, it's possible, they linked it to Axios.

It's not exactly a typical location of a Trump leak.

GLENN: Who? The Justice Department, or the FBI? That's what I want to know.

First of all, this administration has no leaks. We just bombed Iran without any leaks.

STU: Yeah. Different -- different wing of the government. Still, I get what you're saying.

GLENN: Yeah, right.

STU: A lot of this has been tight.

But there does seem to be.

You know, there's a lot of big personalities. There's always reported squabbling going on.

Who knows how this was released and who didn't.

That may be true. That part of the rollout was heard.

Right? Because it was released when they were ready. That might be true.

It still doesn't really explain. The video is a video.

They definitely posted it. They posted it like that. They posted it -- they had a memo that explained what the video was, and did not mention anything like that. That mentioned the --

GLENN: That's all you have to do.

Hey, there's a one minute jump. Here's why it's there.

STU: Again, even with that explanation, which would making me happier.

Right? That it's available.

It still wouldn't make a person who believes in this theory.

GLENN: Right. I can tell you -- I can tell you for a fact, nothing is going to satisfy everyone.

STU: Right.

GLENN: But you at least have to try to make the easy things go away.

Will Medicaid cuts KILL Americans? Glenn reveals the FACTS!

Democrats claim that the Big, Beautiful Bill will take Medicaid and Medicare away from many Americans and even “kill” people. But is any of this true? Glenn Beck and Stu Burguiere review just the facts and explain who’s actually affected by the changes.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Can I address some of the hyperbole around the big, beautiful bill, just a little bit.

If there's anything in the big, beautiful bill to worry about, it's the increase in spending.

Because the spending ourself into oblivion is an actual threat.

To the country. But that's not what anybody is talking about. What everybody seems to be talking about is the tax cuts. Which were already there. Or the tax cuts like no tax for tips. Which you would think the party of the little people. You know, the Democrats. Would all be for. But they're not.

Because they're not party of the little people anymore. And those had to be offset.

Okay. Offset. By what?

Well, by cutting spending. But cutting what spending?

Not cutting spending. Let me just say this. If I said, you know, I made $250,000 a year. And this year, we were going to spend $300,000.
Okay?

And you would say, immediately, Glenn. You can't do that.

And I would say, I've been doing that for 30 years. Okay. You might say, the bank is not going to give a loan.

But then if I came to you and said, yeah. I'm spending $300,000 a year. And my wife and I make 250 or 200,000 a year. But, you know, next year, I was going to spend $500,000.

Did you get a raise? No. I didn't get a raise. I still make 250,000 dollars a year between my wife and I.

But I'm going to spend 500 and not 300. And then somebody came in, like an accountant with some muscle.

And they said, Glenn, you cannot spend $500,000 a year!

Would it make sense if I went back to spending 300, not 200, which I had.

But 300, which I had been spending every year, would it make sense to you to -- for me to say, my children are now going to starve? My children are now going to starve.

Look at the austerity program that I am on.

My gosh, they just -- no. They didn't cut anything. They must cut thinking.

They cut the increase inning spending.

That's what they cut.

And, Stu, could you please explain Medicare.

I mean, all of the people. I know they warned us.

I didn't believe the death squads would actually go out.

And, you know, they want these people off Medicare so badly.

Or Medicaid.

They just sent out death squads. Trump is not waiting for them to die, because he's not waiting for them to get their prescriptions now he just wants them slaughtered in the street.

STU: Yeah, that's the efficiency of the Trump administration. He wants these people dead so badly, he's just killing them in the streets. Actually, no, none of that is happening.

And the Medicaid cuts as you point out, are largely cuts to future increases that have not occurred.

The biggest chunk of this is the work requirements. You've heard this, Glenn.

And, you know, I went through this. And I was like, this can't possibly be what they mean.

I said, wait a minute. When they say work requirement cuts, what does that mean?

So I dove into it a little bit. Basically, what they're saying, you, if you're an able-bodied adult, so that does not include old people, does not include people who are sick and can't work. And it also does not include people who have small children, even if they are able-bodied.

And when I say small, I mean 12 and under. So if you have a 12-year-old. You're completely exempt from this.

But able-bodied adults.

GLENN: Okay. On people in wheelchairs.

STU: No. Gosh, again, I know this is tough. Yeah, this is where it gets difficult.

GLENN: Wait. I'm having a hard time following this. What now?.

STU: So you're an able-bodied adult, that does not have small children.

GLENN: No small children.

STU: You would be required to get Medicaid, to work 20 hours a week.

Now, you might --

GLENN: Twenty hours a week.

STU: Or 80 hours a month.

GLENN: Or 80 hours a month.

That's almost half a full-time job.

STU: Now, you might say to yourself. And this is actually true.

Some people can't get jobs. Right?

I'm sure, there are people trying to get part-time jobs. And maybe can't get them.

Those people will just lose their Medicaid. Well, as you may understand.

Of course not.

Because what you have to do then is go through a process, that you're basically telling them, you're attempting to get a job. Or you're volunteering somewhere, to meet that requirement.

So basically, you have to fill out -- yeah. It's like unemployment.

You have to at least fill out some paperwork here.

GLENN: It's the exact opposite.

Let me see if I have this right.

It's the exact opposite of unemployment which we've had forever.

Which if you're looking for a job, but can't get it. You can still have unemployment.

But it's the exact opposite. Right?

Especially if you're nursing sextuplets.

STU: Again, you're not very close to the truth.

You're a little bit off on this one.

GLENN: No. Huh!

STU: By the way, Glenn, you might say to yourself, wait. How is that a Medicaid cut?

Because they're not cutting anyone's eligibility here. Unless they don't want to meet the requirement.

Of course, there's always been requirements to all of these programs.

So meeting the requirements have always been part of getting on to Medicaid.

This requirement, if you decide basically not to do it. And not participate. And not fill out the paperwork.

Then, yes. You will lose your Medicaid coverage.

What they're saying, hold on. All right.

GLENN: No. I just want to make sure I have it right.

STU: Yes.

GLENN: If you are blind, you're deaf.

STU: No. Again, no.

GLENN: You have no friends, and you can't get out of the house, and you've been on Medicaid, somehow or another, you signed up for that. But now, you don't even know, because you can't hear the news. You certainly can't fill out a form. Because you have no eyes.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: They just come in and rip your Medicaid away?

STU: No. None of what you said is accurate.

Though, it is calm considering some of the accusations -- comparisons made bit left right now.

But, yeah.

So if you are an able-bodied adult that decides, you know what, I don't feel like filling out the paperwork, or I don't feel like going to job interviews, or I don't feel like volunteering, then yes. You could lose -- but that's what they're saying the cuts are.

They think 317 billion dollars worth of people will not bother doing those things. For whatever reason. Maybe because they had more money than they said. Maybe because they're lazy.

Maybe because -- I'm sure there's some case where some -- I don't know.

I can't think of the case.

GLENN: Blind person.

STU: Because the ailments are covered here.

But, yes. Maybe it's some particular skin color. Then they would reject you.

I don't know.

And it's not just that. There are other cuts. For example, some of the cuts are, they're eliminate duplicate Medicaid enrollment.

If you happen to have Medicaid.

GLENN: I can't double-dip.

STU: In two different states. They're going to try to stop you from having it in two states.

And instead, make you have it one state. Uh-huh.

GLENN: Hold on just one second.

I have two legs. I have two arms. I have two eyes. I have two nostrils. I have two ears.

I can't have two Medicaid coverages. It's insane!

STU: I know.

It's really, really brutal.

GLENN: I have two kidneys. I can only have one kidney now, you know, repaired?

STU: Now --

GLENN: Is that what you're saying?

STU: That's not what I'm saying. But, yes. I'm sure that's what's being reported out there by Dana Bash.

Another one, I will give you here, Glenn. They talked about immigrants.

You know, immigrants getting on their Medicaid cut. Now, this is tough. What this bill does, I want you to hold on to your hat here, Glenn.

GLENN: Okay.

STU: If you have green card holders and other certain immigrants, some will lose their coverage. Or actually, sorry, eligibility will -- retain for those people.

Certain other immigrants may lose their coverage. The current law says, all who are lawfully present.

That will kick in after a -- how many year waiting period?

Let me guess, it's a five-year waiting period.

So it will be the next president who has to deal with this, when future Congress will just put it right back in. And it's not a savings at all.

And then you have Medicaid death checks. They're going to require --

GLENN: They're checking on whether your debt? Look at this! It's crazy.

STU: It's brutal. It really is.

GLENN: You're going to kick all of the immigrants off in five years.

STU: No.

GLENN: And then you're checking to see if old people are dead!

When will you leave these people alone?

STU: I know. So, anyway, we can go through this stuff all day. But as you point out, most of this stuff is not at all, what the left is saying it is.

It's not the desperate Medicaid cuts that are going to ruin everybody's lives. A lot of them are just really common sense stuff, making sure you don't have them in two states. I don't know what the positive argument is for that. But they'll make it.

GLENN: Well, they don't have one. That's why they don't make it about that.