RADIOMay 19, 2025

Ben & Jerry’s Ben Busted Protesting RFK Jr.

“Ben & Jerry’s” co-founder Ben Cohen was recently arrested while protesting Health & Human Services Secretary RFK Jr. during a congressional hearing. Oh the irony that the ice cream man is heckling the guy who’s trying to make America healthy! But even more ironic is he’s heckling someone who probably AGREES with him on many things! Glenn and Stu discuss why leftists have turned on fellow liberals like RFJ Jr. who have joined the Trump administration and whether conservatives should also keep an eye out.

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GLENN: So Ben Cohen. Do you know who Ben Cohen is from Ben & Jerry's?

STU: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: Okay. He was removed yesterday from the hearing with Robert F. Kennedy about 15 minutes into the hearing.

You have it? Go ahead. Go ahead. There's that. The -- love that he's the face of ice cream. There he is.

VOICE: Members of the audience.

GLENN: And he is eventually removed. There he is. He's saying, Congress! Congress pays for bombs! Congress pays for bombs! They kill people.

VOICE: Members of the audience! Reminded, disruptions will not be permitted while the committee conducts its business. County police are asked to remove the individuals from the hearing room.

GLENN: That's -- I mean, let me have some ice cream right now. Let me get some of that. You know --

STU: So bizarre.

GLENN: So bizarre.

STU: And he's protesting RFK Jr. Who would be completely aligned with him, I think on this issue.

GLENN: Yes. On that issue. On a lot of issues. You know what, they just took some things out, because RFK is forcing them to take it out of their ice cream.

Ben & Jerry's stuff in their ice cream, that's not healthy for you according to RFK. That's -- I mean, that's amazing.

STU: Ice cream, typically not seen as a healthy food.

GLENN: No. No. No.

STU: Generally speaking.

GLENN: But their rocky road Rockefeller. With just a little bit of petroleum in it. Might have been a little bit too much. Might have been too much.

STU: You know, then you can choose not to eat it.

That's a wonderful thing you can do.

It's just strange the alignments here.

GLENN: I know.

STU: Did I -- this may be a fever dream, honestly, at this point.

I'm out on a limb with this.

But did Ben and Jerry go on with Tucker recently?

Is this a thing that occurred? People are saying yes. It's amazing the conversations that are happening on there right now.

I mean, like, look, it's good that you should be able to talk to people.

I'm sure Tucker does not agree with most of what Ben believes of Ben & Jerry's.

GLENN: Was Ben and Jerry on?

STU: I think it was only Ben.

GLENN: That's like having the cat from Tom and Jerry.

I don't know which one was the cat. Which one was the mouse?

STU: I think Tom was the cat, and Jerry was the mouse. So you want to have both the cat and mouse at the same time?

GLENN: Yeah, they're a team really.

STU: We'll get with their movie department.

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GLENN: Right now, SCOTUS is listening to arguments on birthright citizenship. The focus really is on the judge's power to block policies nationwide. That's got to stop. That just has to stop. But we'll see what the Supreme Court has to say.

STU: That's really the focus too. It's really not about birthright citizenship. From what I'm understanding. It's more about injunctions.

GLENN: Yeah. And it will be very narrow, on the injunctions, I think.

STU: Really?

GLENN: Yeah. So we'll see. We'll see.

So welcome to the program. We're glad you're here. You know who is not here? Is Ben and Jerry.

STU: He's here in my heart. By that way, I mean the calcium buildup from all the heart disease I've seen from the company, over the years. Yeah. He's not here.

He was at that big hearing.

It's difficult to understand where anyone is anymore.

I feel like, this was easier back in the day.

Like, you can kind of -- heard Ben and Jerry, you knew, left. It was easy, right?

GLENN: Right. Right.

STU: Now --

GLENN: I miss the days when we could just put labels on people. It was easy.

STU: It was easy. It made things a little easier to keep track of.

You know, like some people would label anti-Semite, for example, on Ben and Jerry.

Over the years. That was a label that I thought was interesting.

You know, but it's -- he's now opposing RFK who, I mean --

GLENN: I think it's probably on Ben & Jerry's side on many things.

STU: On almost everything.

Right? There is some things RFK has obviously changed now, when it comes to the woke stuff.

Some of the censorship stuff.

Although, I think -- it could be wrong on this.

Ben might be one of those old school socialist types. That might even agree with us on some of the censorship stuff.

Maybe. Because part of the socialist movement in the United States, was kind of built on --

GLENN: Was.

STU: Right. Was built on the operation to the McCarthyism.

And so there was -- there's some ideological.

GLENN: Right. They were for that, when they were the ones being shut up.

Now that they're not the ones being told to shut up.

They are like, we have every right to tell you to shut up. Okay.

STU: Yeah. Let me ask you this though. Because he's also been embraced by some parts of the right.

And -- and, you know, like Tucker did an interview with him. That's not an embrace. You can talk to whoever you want to talk to. Right? There's nothing wrong with that. We've talked to people on the far, far left. Even much farther left, crazier than even Ben or Jerry over the years. I -- no problem with that.

As a journalist, you should do that. You know, Tucker talked to Vladimir Putin, right? So did Megan Kelly.

GLENN: Yeah, I would talk to America's biggest enemies.

STU: Yeah. How else do you know what held them up? You would ask tough questions. I'm sure Tucker did in the interview. But we are -- I've noticed this thing that we're doing.

And I'm a little concerned. Let me see if I can articulate this.

GLENN: Are you?

STU: Us on the right, the conservative side of the spectrum, find someone who has some crossover with us.

In some way. But is really a figure of the left. Okay?

And we kind of give -- saying, hey, come on over. We have got this thing. It's wonderful!

And then they sort of become part of the movement, and that's totally fine. Like, let me give you an example. Tulsi Gabbard.

I really like Tulsi Gabbard.

She's been on the show a bunch of times. She's in the administration right now. She's great. so this is not a criticism.

I'm glad Tulsi Gabbard has had this awakening over the years. I'm excited about that. But so she comes over. She's -- you know, she supported Bernie Sanders. Ran the Sander's campaign in Hawaii back in the day. Not that long ago.

But she's had a transition. She's come over, and obviously, in the Trump administration right now.

And so we look at that. And we say, hey. That's great. We brought someone from the left, over to our side.

And that's great, if that's what you're doing. If you're convincing someone on the left, to convert their ideas into something closer to your ideas.

That's a positive change. You're widening the tent in a way that we can all support.

But really, what Tulsi is doing, in the government right now, is she's being consistent with her old left-wing views on things like, you know, stopping wars and not -- you know, and being tough on intelligence issues in the government.

GLENN: Yeah. Because we woke up on that.

STU: Well, because we've changed.

GLENN: Right.

STU: And that's what I'm getting to here. What seems to be happening, is we're embracing things on the left. And it's not us changing their views into ours. It's us changing our views into theirs. And then embracing some of those people.

That's not necessarily bad if we were wrong the whole time. Right?

GLENN: Yeah, I don't think we were on the endless wars.

STU: Yeah. I mean, some of that I agree with. Right?

The phrasing of it, and maybe the -- the scope of it, maybe I'm not fully there. But generally speaking, I think, you know, we've definitely overstepped our bounds at times.

GLENN: A lot of times.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: I don't think that's improper to say.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: But, again, I look at the way that Trump handles it. And it's different than what Tulsi's vision of this is.

GLENN: Oh, no.

STU: Trump is tough on Iran.

GLENN: I think Trump is Ronald Reagan. I'll pound you into the sand. I will turn your sand into glass. Don't screw with us. But then he's like, we're buddies right now. So you don't want to be buddies? We'll be buddies.

STU: For example, this: His Syria move, I think, is fascinating. And I think -- I think the right move. I'm not 100 percent sure.

GLENN: Me too. I'm not 100 percent on anything.

STU: But like, I think it's worth taking a stab on this.

It's a new regime. The guy used to be literally in al-Qaeda. Okay?

GLENN: I know.

STU: However, maybe he's changed.

I think the chances of it are low. But why not pull that lottery ticket?

Because the downside is what we already had.

So give a shot. Give the guy a handshake. Say, hey, we will drop these sanctions. We're going to give you a chance to not turn yourself into the old regime.

GLENN: I think that's --

STU: I think that's the right approach.

GLENN: Nobody is ever turned by lectures.

STU: Yeah. Or like opponent's lectures in particular.

GLENN: Right. You turn people through love and understanding. And giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Until they prove you wrong.

STU: It's a great point.

And I think it ties back to my previous. The way we started this conversation.

Which is, a lot of people in our movement, are being won over to previous left-wing positions by new friends. And that is not bad, in and of itself.

But we've done it a lot lately.

And I'm concerned.

GLENN: So because I changed. Not because of Tulsi.

STU: No. But the movement has changed.

GLENN: The reason I liked Tulsi at first. Was I like the fact, that she was willing to stand up to her own machine. And say, no. You guys are wrong.

You guys are going down this fascistic route.

And I won't go there with you. You are changing all the rules.

You are not who you said you were.

That's why I originally liked her. Because she would take on her own people.

And that takes courage. So it shows you something about her character. Then when you get to know her, you realize, oh, we might disagree on taxes and everything else. But she loves the country. She loves and reveres the Constitution of the United States.

STU: Yep.

GLENN: If I could get you on the Bill of Rights, we don't have any differences too big to not be able to bridge.

STU: And, again, I don't think Tulsi is a problem.

GLENN: No. I don't.

STU: That's not what I'm saying.

But, you know, you have -- let's -- Tulsi is in DNI. You have RFK Jr. HHS. It's a big one. You know, you look at the way RFK approaches -- I mean, he -- I mean, he is awfully close to someone who -- like a Michael Bloomberg on public health issues.

This is something we -- now, he was kind of a Republican in New York at one point.

Obviously, it was something that I know we oppose. The audience loudly opposes, when he was trying to control what you eat. I think there's some differences.

I'm not saying there aren't any.

But, you know, going after food companies. And changing the way -- that's a change for -- if that's what the right is. That is a change for the right.

We were always in favor of people making their own choices. And having companies being able to produce the products within some guidelines.

GLENN: Yeah. As long as they're not killing people.

STU: Right. There are guidelines. There are guardrails, of course, to all of this.

But generally speaking, ours were wide. The left's were small. And now we've taken, the guy who was the voice of the left's view on those. RFK Jr. and put him in charge of the right's view of it.

Is that a good thing?

Maybe it's great. Maybe he's been completely right this whole time, and we should have been approaching things that way.

GLENN: I think if our society was not getting sicker and sicker and sicker. Then --

STU: There's reasons for all of this stuff.

GLENN: Right.

STU: But we should notice those things.

You know, he's a really -- I think big example of that. Because that is -- it's a massive change to the way that we've -- we've done these things.

Another one is trade. Peter Navarro ran as a Democrat over and over and over and over again.

On these trade whys.

Now, Donald Trump has been consists with these ideas since the day he was in the public eye.

GLENN: There's nobody who has been more outspoken on antitrade, up until recently, than me. And you.

You're still outspoken on it.

I think -- I think we have to give it a shot.

Because we're behind the eight ball here.

GLENN: Yeah. I don't like the policy.

I don't agree.

But again. It's separate from whether each individual one of these is right.

There's a lot of these.

And over time, I think, you can knowledge.

It will add up to a completely different formula.

It might be the right thing for us to do.

But we should notice each one of these changes, I think.

GLENN: And I think you're right on that.

But isn't this the same as -- I mean, you're not the same guy I met 30 years ago.

STU: Totally, we all change.

GLENN: We all change. And that's good. And we should notice when we change. Because we learn from. Wait. Why did I just change?

Did I change for the right reasons? Did something happen to me?

Is somebody around me, changing this? You do -- we do have to pay attention to the change.

But I think change is good.

STU: It can be.

You know --

GLENN: If it's -- if it's well thought out.

If it is still built on principles.

And evolving understanding. Not of truth.

But how to get to the truth. Like, I -- for instance, the foreign war thing.

I just know, right now. What we've been doing is not working. It's not going to make the world safer. Ever. Ever. Ever.

It's not.

STU: Sometimes, it has. Obviously, in previous wars. But, yes. I --

GLENN: The meddling of everybody.

STU: You can't control everybody.

GLENN: It just won't work.

And it's making things worse.

Now, pulling all the way back, and saying, you know what, we don't -- you know, we don't want to be involved in the rest of the world.

That doesn't sound good to me.

STU: Yeah. That's what Trump is doing.

GLENN: Right. But it might be the right thing.

I just know -- I know for sure, what we had been doing, doesn't work.

And I really believed in what we were doing.

Well, I believed in what I thought we were doing.

You know what I mean?

STU: For sure.

GLENN: And so we have to make changes. And changes in almost everything.

And as long as it's logical.

As long as you have really thought things out. As long as you're not just conforming.

You know, the really scary thing is when people begin to conform, for any other reason, other than logic.

I've reasoned this out. I've asked critical questions.

And I am sorry, I would love more information that might change me out of this position.

But this is where I find myself at.

And even if I'm uncomfortable, I have to stand here. Because this is my current understanding of what's best.

You know, and as long as you keep an open mind. And you're constantly seeking to have a better understanding, of deeper truths.

Then I think -- I think you're fine.

But, you know, one of the things we're going to face, especially with AI.

All of a sudden, we're going to conform.

Because Google would give you page after page after page after page of different information.

ChatGPT gives you one answer. And you just assume it's right.

They don't give you anything --

STU: That's got to be a fascinating development in our society.

GLENN: And it's already there.

STU: Oh, it totally is.

GLENN: You Googled, and you had to look at different things and everything else.

This is one answer. And I know it's right, because it came from AI. Very dangerous.

Will Trump HIT Iran with a “bunker buster” bomb?

Will President Trump get America involved in Israel’s war with Iran by helping drop a “bunker buster” bomb on Iran’s main nuclear facility? Would that cross a red line? Glenn Beck asks House Foreign Affairs Committee member, Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, who explains why she believes such debates are pointless right now. Plus, Rep. Luna addresses a 1980s CIA "playbook" that exposes a strategy to "set off riots and destabilize governments."

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GLENN: Representative Anna Paulina Luna is joining us now.

Congresswoman from the great state of Florida. You guys are kicking it, down in Florida.

I mean, you really -- you're making Texas look bad, quite honestly. But thanks for coming on.

ANNA: Thanks, Glenn. I would like to say, we're leading the nation not just in politics, but also the White House. So happy to be here.

GLENN: Yeah. All right. I have to ask you a little bit, about are we going to war? What's happening? Is this negotiation? What does your gut tell you on this?

ANNA: My gut is telling me, that we're not intervening. And based on the president's statement, he is still rightfully so, urging everyone to negotiate. Right now, he's definitely been very open about this.

But I don't want to -- what I will tell you, in the last 24 to 48 hours, I have seen so much disinformation circulating on the internet. Well, a lot of it not coming from security that is in the states, so I will tell everyone. That don't jump to conclusions, don't read into anything, that senator Lindsey Graham is saying or any other members of Congress, that are speculating, that there will be direct intervention. In fact, the White House just yesterday via Alex Sipher on X posted that the military is not intervening. We're simply defending our own. And so what I will tell Americans is first and foremost, President Trump has not changed his position on foreign policies. If he wanted to strike, he would have done it by now. So everyone needs to pray for him. Pray for our country. Pray for the millions in both Iran and Israel right now, and let the process play out.

GLENN: Can you tell me, do you think it's a red line to send over a bomber with one bomb?

Is that -- does that drag us into war?

Or is that just helping?

ANNA: I would say, as of right now, we need to not speculate, but continue to back the White House's position.

Because I think if I were to speculate on where the red line is, I don't think it helps.

I do think that our allies and adversaries are looking to see the members of Congress are doing. I will back the White House's position currently. Which is defending our service members and not intervening --

GLENN: It is. I'm so glad to hear you say that. That is exactly what I just said on the air. Just about three minutes ago.

ANNA: Oh, really?

GLENN: I said, yeah. The world is watching. You don't think the mullahs aren't watching everything that is said on X. You know, we must used to have these conversations where it was global. We're now in a global atmosphere.

And they're watching all of us.

And we can't eat ourselves up. Or they will -- if he's telling the truth.

I think a good negotiator, never bluffs. And he has to back it up.

You know, 60 days. You don't want to see what happens on day 61.

He wasn't bluffing.

And if they think, that we are eating ourselves, alive, they're more likely to go, no.

You know what, go ahead. Go ahead.

It's a really bad thing.

ANNA: What I will say, it's definitely a litmus test for our country right now. You're seeing a lot of people, jumping to conclusions. What I will tell you, there's only a very select few that fully understand what's happening in the situation room.

That's the president, his team, and it's left up there to you. What I will tell you, don't read in, don't speculate. And also too don't jump to conclusions.

Again, in the last 48 hours, I went online. I put out information, because I saw so much information circulating. Something that was said by Kash Patel. His CCP has engaged in basically election engineering. We just saw that in the 2020 election cycle.

They just got busted. This also comes on the tail end of these riots that are absolutely being hunted by the CCP. Neville Singham getting lots of money from them.

And it doesn't stop there.

We saw there was an -- so what I would say is that, you know, I'm partially inclined to think some of these accounts that are attacking the president, are foreign policy positions right now.

Are coming from China. Everything that we're seeing. Three times, that they've done things.

So we have to stick together. It's not, Democrat versus Republican right now. It's America, and fighting for Western civilization.

And so we need to make sure that we're very responsible about our commentary right now.

GLENN: Very good. Very good.

Can we talk a little bit about the -- let's start with Neville Singham.

The guy is -- he is an operative for the CCP. And he is pouring tons of money. And no one in the mainstream media, wants to talk about it.

They just -- oh, that's ridiculous. No, it's not.

Can you give us some information on --

ANNA: Yeah. Of course. So it's not ridiculous. In fact, there's a lot of money -- money at least back to Neville Singham. And I actually look at credit where it's due. So I was on X. And came across this account called Data Republican, and she actually pulled the money trail right to Singham. He also lives part time in Shanghai, China, and he's not registered as a foreign agent.

And so I was able to talk to Comer, and every single member of oversight after seeing the evidence that was presented, actually sent a letter, signed off on it, not just to Neville Singham, but also, to AG Bondi to also request an investigation.

And so what I will tell you is that this should have been done during BLM in Congress back then.

It was not. This needs to be replicated moving forward with everybody else who is engaging, who is not a registered foreign agent in this country.

Also, funding riots like this. In some instances have been acts of terrorism.

And so right now, it's not just a playbook for Neville Singham. We're also -- this is also up to Comer. Because Comer has subpoena authority. Whether or not he will send his subpoena to George Soros, which I've urged him to do.

Even though, Neville Singham is a Marxist and Soros is a globalist, but their end objective is, again, to dismantle the United States.

And so we're basically being hit from both sides right now.

GLENN: I am so -- it is so refreshing.

I mean, I've been talking about this stuff for 20 years.

It's so refreshing. Finally, to have some people step up, and present this in a credible way, in Congress.

And to the -- attorney general et cetera, et cetera.

You know, you had the playbook from 1983. From the CIA.

And this is -- you know, I think it was two or three years ago.

No. It was in 2019 or 2020.

I did a special on the -- you know, the Colour Revolutions.

And how there was the CIA playbook that was out.

And it looks exactly like what is happening here in the United States. I said -- I said, at the time, here's what's coming. And it's all here.

It -- where are you taking this?

And is there anybody, that, you know, can -- can stop this?

Because this -- we are -- we're using CIA tactics on ourself.

ANNA: Well, I would say, the CCP is using this against us.

Right now, just first and foremost.

Yes. We can stop it.

We have to go after the money stream. And I actually also found out via the data Republican.

That $270 million in the USAID fund, was issued to George Soros' NGOs prior to Biden getting out of office.

President Trump can stop that, sending a letter via executive order because Congress is moving very slow.

That's I think a separate conversation.

But we can stop the money streams. And if we don't do anything, though. If we don't do the investigations.

If we don't say, you cannot do this in our country, you're also, by the way, guilty of violating foreign agent registration, the Foreign Registration app, the FAR app. It's just going to continue happening.

So we have to do the due diligence on this.

And if not, every single member of oversight signed off on that.

And to Chairman Comer's credit, he will be playing ball with Singham. So it's going to happen.
It's just, When will it happen?

So the time line, it's possibly indicated on Friday. We're waiting for a response.

He's going to be called to testify.

We are looking at all transaction records.
That's the first thing. The second thing, I want to give some people hope. I actually know Director Radcliffe over at the CIA.

And the CIA back then, remember, there's both good and bad people at the intelligence agencies.

And to their credit, the people that he has appointed, actually are a people like you and I.

And so they are doing their best to weed out this corruption at the agencies. And so what's really been brilliant in all of this.

Kash Patel is also following up on these money trails, to see what outside foreign influences are engaging in this Colour Revolution here in the United States, and he's dropping that information now. So in previous administrations, this might not have happened.

But in this one, they're stopping it, and it's because of social media and kudos to Elon Musk, that we were able to get the information in time, in regards to the No Kings protest, who is funding that.
In regards to potential insider packets that were going to frame conservatives. Frame Republicans.

We are seeing this all unfold in real time. I will tell you, Hispanic Americans, specifically, are not used as pawns. So when you have basically BLM 2.0 happening right now at these ICE riots, and you realize that these are actually largely ANTIFA that are going to be questioned. They're why they're not Hispanic. They're not immigrant.

They have no ties to the communities, and they're simply interning, you know, Mexican flags or BLM flags. That doesn't bode well in the community.

Remember, Hispanic Americans are largely voted for in favor for President trump.

So there is hope. But you can't sit on your hands. You have to get active, you have to get engaged, and you have to be telling people that.

GLENN: You know, for years, I've been angry at the billionaires on the right. That have just not stepped up to the plate.

I really, I suspected with the tides foundation and then with Biden and you all of these green new deals, and everything going on. That money was being funneled off the top.

And then as soon as we appointed DOGE. I said, oh, my gosh. The money is coming from us.

Then he started to find him. That is so critically important. Are we going to stop that funding?

ANNA: Well, yes. And so that's what we've been doing with some of these rescission packages at the White House, that has authorized. We have to move quickly. And we have to be more aggressive with it.

I will tell you, remember, I think just in general, sometimes people can be lazy.

And so what I've been telling people, is you have no idea, the level of personal sacrifice, that Elon really took on.

From taking on DOGE. Especially going after USAID. Which is just like a pot of just corrupt nonsense.

He actually just released, as we were about to call in. He released drug testing results. He had himself drug testing. Because they were saying, he was doing all this crazy stuff.

And he wasn't. Right? They've attacked companies. They literally used his personal family matters in the press. And then they tried to drag a wedge between him and the president.

So what I will tell you is, it's not just him. It's any member of Congress of the Senate. You saw what happened with the president. They tried to assassinate him twice.

Okay?

So if you take this on, the American people need to back these people up.

Because it's not like we're taking it on, because we, you know, want to have our personal lives and our family members put on the line here.

It's because it's the right thing to do. And if we don't do it, who will?

You have to really make sure, everyone sitting together. Remember, look out for the disinformation campaign.

And keep supporting people who do the right went.

Because we need more of them.

GLENN: Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna.

Congresswoman, thank you.

JEFFY: Thanks Glenn.

GLENN: You bet. We'll talk again.

The KEY to understanding Trump’s threats to Iran

Many Americans are debating whether President Trump will attack Iran and help Israel, or if he’ll keep his promise to stay out of this war. Glenn Beck explains what he believes is the key to understanding Trump’s

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GLENN: I think America is all warred out. I know I am.

I'm all warred out. We've been the police. War's policemen since I've been a kid.

It's never helped us. It's never done anything, except push us towards bankruptcy, and more of our people killed.

You know, we've had Afghanistan. Iraq. Libya. And they ended for, what?

Nothing. Nothing.

What did we get out of that? Nothing!

Are we safer?

No. We're not safer. Look at our streets. Look what's coming across our border.

We have 8,000 terrorists, in our country, right now!

That didn't make us safer by any stretch of the imagination. What did we do that for?

We've also been lied to by our government, over and over and over again.

At least the last 100 years on this progressive nonsense, on the State Department, and how they want to fight wars now.

There hasn't been a real end of a real war, in how long?

Since World War II?

There's not -- are these all police actions. And they never -- they don't seem to work out.

I'm done with all of that. I think you are too. And we can't afford another war.

Now, that being said, I think Iran and I've said this since 2003, Iran is the head of the snake.

It wasn't Afghanistan.

It wasn't Iraq. You know, I thought the strategy from Bush was to take Afghanistan and Iraq and squeeze forever the government of Rand Paul.

Enough to have it topple and let the people take over, in Iran.

But that didn't -- I don't think that was even their strategy. I think that was me maybe hoping.

You know, and all the talk about the nukes in Iran, I have a hard tame. You know, weapons of mass destruction. George Bush. They weren't there.

They weren't there.

So now they have -- I mean, I've heard since, what?

Now. 2005.

Iran could be just days away from a nuclear weapon. Then once they have one, then they could produce all the -- I don't know. I've heard this since 2005. You have no credibility with me anymore, that they're just days away from a nuclear weapon!

Now, are they days away? Maybe!

I don't know.

So what do we do?

Well, I'm pretty happy with the current course.

Israel seems to be doing a bang up job.

You know, and have you noticed, it's not really causing any more problems in the streets.

In Saudi Arabia, or Egypt. Or any other place.

They all seem to be cool with what's going on.

And why is that? Because everyone in the Middle East knows this is right. What is Egypt doing? First of all, maybe we should be a little more like Egypt, you know, without the authoritarian regime. Maybe we should look at our borders the way Egypt looks at its border with the Palestinians!

You know, there's a two-story wall, all just -- I mean, it is razor wire everywhere.

Nobody is coming across that border, coming out of -- of -- of the Palestinian section, into Egypt.

They don't want them.

Strangely, neither does Jordan. Strangely, neither does the UAE. Strangely, neither does Saudi Arabia, or any other Gulf culture. They don't want them. Why?

Because revolution always follows.

Thus, let me again, bring you back to Egypt. What happened over the weekend.

All these Palestinian protesters. The kinds that are on our streets.

The Palestinians just -- I mean, the Egyptians just picked them up.

Put them on a bus. And said, get hell out of here. Or we'll throw you in jail.

We can't protest peaceful. No. Not in Egypt.

It's not America.

You're not doing that in Egypt. And one of the reasons why you're not doing that in Egypt. Egypt knows, the Palestinians, no matter where they go. They sew the he seeds of revolution.

That's been the pattern over and over and over again, when one of the Gulf states take them.

So why is that a problem for Donald Trump to do exactly what the Egyptians and the Saudis and the UAE, and everybody else is doing. Which is, hey, Israel, keep going!

I mean, I'm not going to say that out loud. But keep going.

Can we help you with anything on that one? Because don't turn around on us. We will deny it.

But go ahead. They're all doing that!

All of them! What is the other thing they're doing? They're not siding with the Palestinians. They're not letting the Palestinian, you know, revolution break out in their countries.

So why is it such a problem in our country? To do what they're doing!

Which leads me to believe, maybe, just maybe, there's a lot of anti-Semitism on this one.

I've never seen a country exercise a war this precisely as the one that Israel is doing. I mean, it's unbelievable.

It's unbelievable.

Okay. So now, let me take to you the third part of what I want you to really think about.

Are we actually preparing for war?

Because every sign says yes. And maybe we are. I don't know.

Every sign says yes. We are mobilizing.

We are moving assets in. Yesterday, I think it was the Israelis said, everybody needs to get out of Tehran. That looks like massive bombing coming there. That doesn't seem like Israel. Does it?

We're talking about maybe using one of our B52s. And the only bomb that can get into the plant, to be able to get under the mountain to take out their nuclear facilities.

We're the only ones that can do it, and we're talking about doing that. However, at the same time, Donald Trump said, no, to killing the leaders of Iran. Which were the leaders that put the plan in place for the assassination of Donald Trump.

So it doesn't seem like he's being vindictive here.

What is actually happening?

How do you make sense of the world?

May I just suggest, what do you know about Donald Trump?

What do you know at the core of his being, who he is?

You know that he is a pro-tariff guy.

You know that he hates war.

To the core.

You know that he's terrified of nuclear war.

And he's a negotiator. I don't think that's in the right order.

I think he's a negotiator first. And when you negotiate at this high level, you don't tell everyone what you're doing.

First of all, the first thing you have to do is establish credibility.

And especially in a country like Iran, where the American president has never had any credibility.

Because they say, you know what, you cross this red line. And you're done. Then they cross the red line. And they're like, okay. Well, don't cross this red line or you're done.

Then they cross that red line, and nothing happens! Okay. Well, don't cross it. Shut up with your red line. It means nothing to us anymore.

What did Donald Trump do?

He gave Iran 60 days to negotiate. Sixty days.

What happened at midnight on Day 61?

Israel unleashed hell on them.

Donald Trump said, you have 60 days. And please, get to the negotiating table. You don't want to see what happens on Day 61.

Don't do it. Don't. Don't.

I'm holding them at bay. Don't. Let's negotiate. Okay? Now he has credibility.

So now when they're talking about, you know what, what we might do. He will say, yeah. Well, I'm talked to Israel, about letting them use that bunker buster.

You know, I also think you're a really dangerous knight right now. I think, you know, put us on a war footing, would you?

Now the American people are looking at Donald Trump going, he just might do it. Are we going to war? He just might do it.

What do you think Iran is saying? Iran is saying the same thing! Oh, good God. He just told us 60 days.

He's not bluffing. He's not bluffing.

The guy does not bluff. He's nuts. He's insane.

Whatever you want to say about him. He's a negotiator. And the one thing that Iran really does not understand, I think is negotiating from the best negotiator in the world.

But I am afraid the American people don't understand that either.

Now, I could be wrong. So I'm not saying this is what's going on.

But I believe this is what's happening.

I believe he's negotiating.

And, you know, he will follow it up.

But what did he say?

As soon as the bombs went out. He said, I told them, 60 days. A, establish credibility.

Then the next statement was, please come back to the table. Or it's only going to get worse.

Okay?

Then while the whole world is watching the G7, something happens, and he flies back. He leaves the G7. And he flies back, at 3:00 a.m. He arrives, and he goes directly in to the situation room, and they're moving assets around the world.

And then says, hey. Iran, you should negotiate. You should negotiate.

We're still at the negotiation table. I would suggest you get back.

How freaked out do you think they are?

Now, here's the thing. Have you ever been in tough negotiations with somebody, and they start to say things. And you're like, wait. This wasn't part of the plan.

We didn't discuss this.

But they're the leader. What should you do? If you're in negotiations, you should be going, yeah.

Yeah. We talk about that. You know, all day long. You go out in a hallway. Or you go into another room, and you go, what are you doing?

What are you doing?

We didn't talk about this. But you never say it at the table. Never.

Because if they spot any division, that game is over. So what's happening online?

Right now, we're dividing ourselves. I think the president is negotiating. I -- I know the president hates war. I know the president hates nuclear war.

I know the president likes Israel, but he's not wanting to fight their wars.

I know the president knows how much trouble we're in, with Islamic extremism, especially the kind that comes from the Twelvers in Iran!

If I know all of those things to be true, he's negotiating. And he's hoping that Israel will do the job we won't have to.

But we can back them up by being tough negotiators. And saying, you know what, go ahead. Put us on a war footing.

Because then, their side is at the table going, what the hell, is this guy -- and somebody at the table is going, he told us 60 days. In sixty days, we were having bombs raining down on us.

He will do it!

But there's also somebody at the table that said, eh, just lost Tucker Carlson. That guy helped him get elected. Eh, just lost, you know, whoever, Sean Hannity and Mark Levin and Glenn Beck.

And they're all fighting against each other. He's not going to be able to hold his base together.

If he's -- if he's bluffing, fine. If he's not bluffing, it won't be long, because they'll tear him apart.

Now, how does that -- because you, and me, and Tucker, and Sean. And, I mean, it used to be just the big anchors, on CBS. ABC. NBC.

Now it's not just even us. It's you!

They're watching us, as we're sitting at the table. We're blinking.

Repeatedly. I -- I don't know what -- I don't know.

I have no inside information.

I just think, I know Donald Trump, and what he abhors. I know Donald Trump on what he is terrified of.

And that is nuclear war. And global war.

He knows that will be the end of us. All of us. I just don't see him as that guy.

And so I have to ask, is the world's best negotiator, now negotiating? And I believe the answer is yes. For the first time, you have a president that is a good negotiator.

Stop blinking. That doesn't mean I'm for war. It just means, stop blinking!

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