Is Fox News crumbling at the seams? Bill O’Reilly joins Glenn to discuss a lawsuit facing the network that could be ‘crippling.’ Plus, they discuss a new hire at the network, and whether or not the network's loyal, conservative viewers are preparing to jump ship. Plus, why did Speaker McCarthy trust ONLY Tucker Carlson with hours of January 6th footage?
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: Bill O'Reilly is joining us now from BillO'Reilly.com. He does his no spin zone news every night. You can find it at BillO'Reilly.com.
Bill, been a great week. We have a lot to talk about. But I want to remind you, that we ended last week, saying that we wanted to talk about the lawsuit that's going on, with Fox.
That could be crippling to them. And I am hearing rumblings that that network is coming apart at the seams, on the inside. I don't know if that's true, but that's what I heard.
BILL: Well, there's a lot of angst. There's no doubt about it. And the cross-examination of what dominion put out there is definitely necessary, if you want to form some kind of accurate portrayal of what happened.
I know what happened.
But I don't want to be in a position, and I don't think you do either. Because we both worked for FNC. You know, bad-mouthing former employers, I don't like that position. But I can tell you that, I do believe there are going to be big changes at that network. Not right away.
But there's a guy named David Rhodes, very quietly that FNC hired. Did you pick that up?
GLENN: Yeah. David Rhodes. And why don't you explain who David Rhodes is.
BILL: Okay. Former CBS News, chief news guy.
BILL: And the brother of -- his brother --
GLENN: Ben. Ben Rhodes.
BILL: Worked with Obama. Yeah. So, you know, hiring this guy to do the job that he said he is going to do. That's not what he's coming in.
So that's number one.
And then number two, it's a different place than it was when you and I were there. No doubt about it.
GLENN: Yeah. Big time.
BILL: And I did a poll on BillO'Reilly.com has the dominion lawsuit change their opinion of Fox News. Eighty-five percent say no.
Because they are hard-core conservative traditional people, and they have nowhere else to go.
GLENN: Well, I will tell you this. I will tell you this.
I have heard more and more people say, I just don't -- I don't trust it anymore.
I don't -- you know, I don't watch it like I used to.
They're not against Fox, but they're not like they used to be.
Now, that's my audience, and our audiences are different, so.
BILL: That's true, particularly the younger people, the demographic. February to February, down 33 percent, prime time. That's a disaster.
GLENN: Yeah. Disaster.
BILL: So the younger people, the average age of the Fox News viewer right now is about 70 years old.
GLENN: What's really weird, Bill. I don't know if you thought about this. But we were the last of the big national names. I mean, that doesn't happen anymore.
You're -- these platforms, like that, that have everybody from all walks of life, coming to that platform. That -- that kind of fame, that you had for so long, is -- is not happening anymore.
BILL: The business plan now is to cater to the choir. And we had a defactor, independents and liberals, at a very high rate.
They don't have that anymore. The final thing is that, you know, Tucker Carlson got a big break, and he's the most recognizable guy. You know, Hannah has been around forever. But everybody knows Sean.
But she's basically -- he's not the highest rated show. The five, if you can believe it. That's your all-time slot.
GLENN: I know. The time slot that never, ever, ever did anything. And now it's the strongest one.
BILL: Yeah. It's a stronger show. Because they like the people there. The older folks who watch it. They like the personalities there.
But next week, when he shows the January 6 tape, that was like given to him, by the Speaker of the House. That's a huge break for them. Huge break.
GLENN: Yeah. I will tell you, I am a little disturbed by it. I'm glad he has it, and will be watching and everything else.
But I'm a little disturbed that it was given to only one person. There are so many hours.
The way these things usually get -- you get to the truth, quickly. Is when it's just dumped out and everyone can look through it.
BILL: Yeah. I disagree a little bit with that. Because if you give it to the New York Times. They're not going to report accurately about it. Now, whether Carlson does or not, I don't know.
But he will have to show you the tape. Now they can edit it. I know. And I'm not.
Look I wish McCarthy had given it to me. Because then you would get a fair play. And you.
I mean, we're not going to cut it, so that you're not getting a real picture of it. But if he gave it to everybody, then you would get this massive propaganda hit, that would just blow any of the factual part of the tape away.
And McCarthy wants Fox news, to be in his corner.
Okay? Any speaker of the House would want that. And that's why he did it.
GLENN: You following the Scott Adams?
BILL: Oh, yeah.
GLENN: Tell me about it.
BILL: Are you talking about the abortion guy?
GLENN: Yeah. Scott -- no. Scott Adams. The guy -- well, we can talk about that too.
Scott Adams, the cartoonist.
Didn't follow it.
BILL: You talking about Dilbert?
BILL: Okay, yeah. Beck, I'm on everything. Yeah, I felt that, you know, I didn't think that was a smart move for him.
GLENN: Yeah. That's -- well said. Well said. Here's my rule. And I will make a confession on the Glenn Beck Program today.
I used to try to persuade people, to look at race in one way or another. All right?
And I had a detente with Al Sharpton. He was on the Factor. I gave his organization $25,000, when they ran out of money for Thanksgiving, to give turkeys away to the people of Harlem. Nobody knows that, by the way.
And I tried, as hard as I could try, to bring detente. And now, I don't do that any longer.
GLENN: Yeah. I know.
I'm the same way. Let's talk about the hearings that happened with Merrick Garland. Those were so satisfying. Except, is anything going to come of it?
BILL: Well, it shows you that the Department of Justice in the United States is corrupt.
GLENN: Yeah. We know that.
BILL: Merrick Garland makes Jeff sessions look like Rambo. I mean, he is such a doddering weak character.
This is the guy going up against the trucking cartels?
BILL: I mean, this guy, when you ask a question, as simple and essential as why has it taken three years, to investigate Hunter Biden and we still don't know the status of the investigation?
And the man is like. You know.
It's -- now, Ray at least said, well, it's the fault of the DA in -- the attorney general of Delaware.
But Garland is up there, and he didn't order any arrests when he could have. Remember, he's the boss, of -- of the Justice Department.
You have videotape of people standing outside Kavanaugh and Robert's homes, protesting the abortion ruling.
You have their faces. You know who they are, all right?
And you let it go.
GLENN: He said, that's because the marshals make that kind of decision.
BILL: But they don't. That's not true.
GLENN: I know.
BILL: The prosecutorial calls made by the attorney general. All he had to do was order the marshals or the FBI to bring these people in. And he did not do it. Because the Biden administration told him not to do it.
Because they want to curry favor with the pro-abortion crew.
GLENN: So -- so, Bill, we had -- I mean, that testimony was incredible. And clearly, there were falsehoods told in it.
GLENN: The lady who was up for the national archivist role, she out and out lied under oath. And provable. And it was astounding, that testimony. Does -- would any of that -- do you remember the days when you wouldn't want to be called in front of Congress, because Congress has so much power, if they say you're lying or whatever, they can -- they can do whatever they want to you, pretty much?
And there was some fear. You know, you have to be really careful. These people are openly lying under oath, and nothing is happening to them.
BILL: Yeah. I mean, that started under Obama, with his attorney general on the fast and furious gun thing.
BILL: And they said, look, you have to turn over all -- and he said, no. Not going to do it. Holder. And once Congress walked away from that, that was over.
It was over.
So now, you're right, the lawyers tell the people -- the government people, going in to testify in these committees, here's what you say, all right?
And we can weasel you out of it, if they come at you. But they probably won't. So here's what you say. I mean, we never got anything from Lois Lerner. The IRS. Cincinnati person, who is persecuting the right-wing groups. Nothing. Nothing.
GLENN: Nothing. Nothing. Nothing with Fauci. Fauci just -- the lies --
BILL: Well, a little bit different. A little bit different.
GLENN: In what way? In what way?
BILL: Because Fauci will hide behind, that's my opinion, all right? It was my opinion that it didn't -- COVID didn't come out of that lab. It's my opinion. My opinion. Opinion. Opinion. Okay?
That's what Fox is using against dominion. It's opinion, opinion, opinion. So Fauci is not -- but in a factual area, when you -- you have the attorney general of the United States, who sends and approves of 25 FBI agents, S.W.A.T. teams, kicking down the door of a pro-life person
BILL: Arresting, prosecuting, then the person is found not guilty.
GLENN: In an hour.
BILL: Did you see any remorse?
GLENN: No. None. None.
BILL: No. He's an arrogant, dishonest. And he was almost the Supreme Court justice.
GLENN: I know. I thought about that the whole time. Bill O'Reilly from BillO'Reilly.com. We'll talk to you next week, thank you so much. Bill O'Reilly, watch his No Spin News at BillO'Reilly.com.