Bill O'Reilly says if this election makes its way to federal courts, and they side with President Trump, there will be CHAOS in the streets. So, in order to win this battle, President Trump MUST present clear, physical evidence of the voter fraud he claims has occurred in states like Georgia and Pennsylvania. And, he says, if recounts DO occur, they must be monitored by federal employees from the Election Commission — NOT local workers. Either way, though, both Glenn and Bill agree that compelling evidence MUST be present to fight back against an apparent Biden win.
In his interview with Tucker Carlson, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton mentioned how the Texas Court of Appeals (which is 100% "Republican") recently made it illegal for him to prosecute voter fraud. Paxton joins Glenn to elaborate on this ridiculous ruling and why he believes it's (of course) all tied to George Soros. Plus, Paxton pushes back against the Wall Street Journal's take on why he was acquitted in his impeachment trial and reveals whether Texas will finally start acting like Texas again after the Biden administration cut razor wire at the southern border, allowing thousands of illegal immigrants could cross over.
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: Last night, the fed -- because the federal government decided, they were just going to cut the razor wire at the border, on Texas.
At Eagle Pass. Just came in. Cut it. Cameras were rolling. There were, hmm, about four how thousand Venezuelans waiting on the other side. And 14,000 announced a state of emergency in Eagle Pass.
When is Texas going to actually become Texas?
My first or actually my second question to Ken Paxton, and we begin right now.
Ken, welcome to the program. I'm glad that this is all behind you.
It seemed to me, to be an absolute witch hunt. But I -- I wanted to ask you, one question, on this. Because I know you covered a lot of this with Tucker Carlson yesterday. But let me -- let me go into the Wall Street Journal.
Why Ken Paxton was acquitted.
It's by the entire editorial board. It's just ridiculous.
Listen to this. Mr. Paxton's defenders are spinning that he was saved by a populist national conservative groundswell to put an end to the bush era in Texas. What a joke. There is no longer a Bush era in Texas or anywhere else.
George P. Bush. Jeb Bush's son lost to Mr. Paxton. Yeah. Well, yes.
So how is that the end of Bush? What really happened on Saturday, is that Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick chose to rescue in a reboot of his rival, House Speaker Dade Phelan. The acquittal is perhaps a satisfying victory for Mr. Patrick over his House rival.
But it may not play out so well for Texas Republicans in the longer run.
A federal investigation into Mr. Paxton is continuing amid reports that a grand jury has been impaneled.
What do you know about that, Ken?
KEN: Well, first of all, I have seen people of Texas. I am here.
Because by the grace of God, and the -- those people that I just mentioned, the Biden administration, I have seen it 48 times. The Biden administration, 27 times.
This was organized by the Biden administration. And I thought, well, how could that be? It happened because in Texas, the Speaker is elected by 65 Democrats. And ten Republicans. That's all it takes.
And what the Democrats do is they block votes, they figure out which Republicans will give them the most.
And they -- they agreed to this deal with the Biden administration. Went straight to the Texas Democrats. And they came after me. And shoot, I've been investigated ever since the day I walked into this office. And I have no doubt, the Biden administration would love to find some way. They've been working on it for years.
To get rid of me. And part of that process was the impeachment.
GLENN: So I have to tell you, I think Phelan should be impeached himself. This is such a sham of everything that was going on.
But let me talk about the border here. Because, Ken, while you've been away, Texas has been a wuss in many cases.
Yesterday, the razor wire at Eagle Pass was cut. We had this gigantic colony in Houston. Which is, you, you know, they're change girls up, and raping them. One escaped. Tried to.
And was killed. Both of them ended up dead. There's all kinds of cartel activity going on.
This is a colony in Houston. The size of Washington, DC. More people are on the way. When is Texas going to become Texas?
KEN: So I literally had my first briefing yesterday from my office. We spent probably four months, and I have people that have left. There's lots of stuff that I didn't know what was going on.
I didn't get information from my office. So yesterday, I spent more time talking about immigration. And what's going on in the border. What can we do.
We're in the process of looking into potential lawsuits.
I don't have an army to do anything about it. All I can do is what I can do, of course. So we already had a bunch of lawsuits, against the Biden administration. But we're definitely looking at more.
We're trying to figure out, how can we stop this travesty, with the Biden administration, is promoting. It's pretty clear to me.
They do not care about the American people. This is so horrible. And a consequence for people on the border.
That are US citizens. And for our sake. Are devastated. And those consequences with drugs, and crime. Will be sold in this country, for a long time to come.
GLENN: So did the governor reach out you to, yesterday, about the wire cutting?
VOICE: I did not hear from his office yesterday. My staff may have. But I didn't. I didn't know about it until you just said something.
GLENN: No one from the governor's office called you about the federal government cutting the razor wire and letting thousands of people in across our border at Eagle Pass? No one called you?
KEN: I heard about that story, on -- right before your show started as I listened to the news. That's when I heard about the wire cutting. I did not know.
GLENN: Okay. The -- you said to Tucker yesterday, in your interview with him. And this kind of -- just kind of went and he didn't follow up. And I found this quite important.
The Court of Appeals and the state of Texas, apparently now, you cannot prosecute voter fraud in Texas. Is that true?
KEN: Yes. That is correct. They struck down a law from 1951. And, by the way, I have four things that I'm supposed to do in the Constitution. And the final thing is, such things that are required by law. In 1951, the legislature, directed by the attorney general, the only thing that I have jurisdiction on, as early as criminal matters is voter fraud.
And a court of criminal appeals. All Republican, by the way.
And, by the way, no one knows who they are. This is why they've been put there. And I'm convinced they're not Republicans. Because they struck down this law. And they said, I don't have the authority to go to court. As an attorney general.
Because I'm in the executive branch. That was their rationale for striking down things. Unconstitutional for the attorney general to be in court. I'm like, is that the most insane thing ever?
But they did it. And now it's up to the local DAs to prosecute. The Dallas county. The Harris County. Houston.
They won't prosecute voter fraud. Guess what, they just talked about voter fraud. And the people of Texas, need to know that. And if there's three of the nine members, coming up in March, for a primary. We have to find people to run. And we have to beat those people. Or we will lose this state.
Because I tried to get this law passed again. So I always have -- I can start doing it again, and making them strike again. And guess who killed it?
Dade Phelan. I called him. He never returned my calls. I was told by his team they didn't have time to pass this law. Even though --
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
KEN: That's where we are with Dade Phelan. That's where we are with the Texas House. And that's where we are with the Court of Criminal Appeals.
That's our highest court.
Like our Supreme Court. One of two states have this, for all criminal matters.
So I have no appeal. When they strike down and say this is unconstitutional, I can't prosecute criminal fraud, I have no way around it. I'm stuck. That's what I'm saying.
GLENN: Okay. So who needs to be called? The House?
KEN: The House needs to pass this. They lost two years. And in March, I think we're -- I just we're going to have three people running against the members of the Court of Appeals. We have to get those people elected, because we lost eight-one. And if we have three new members, we'll at least be 5-4. And we'll be sending a message, we cannot strike down --
GLENN: Okay. Who are the three members?
KEN: I do not have it on me. Yeah. Three members will be up this time. I think one of them is Michelle (inaudible). I think Barbara Kirby. And I'm trying to remember the third one. I think those are the three that are up.
GLENN: We'll find it.
KEN: Glenn, I don't think there's any more important issue than fixing this court.
GLENN: Why did this happen? How did this happen?
KEN: Okay. So I think George Soros, my opinion, he was trying to do three things.
One, get the DA -- he beat all these Democratic DAs that were prosecuting crimes. He did it in Travis County. The Democrat County there, was actually prosecuted.
He did the same thing in San Antonio.
So he got control of that, knowing full well that this would affect voting.
Second, he put -- he helped put nine members on the Supreme Court. Actually eight. Kevin is awesome.
The other -- eight.
No one knows who they are. And I think he -- because Republicans don't know who these people are. He was able to get the numbers to court. And strike down this law. And then the third strategy -- and then there's nowhere to go.
So that was the goal. They didn't hear it from me. So there's still hope. We have to get the criminal court of appeals. We have to get the House next time to pass this law.
GLENN: You know, Donald Trump said, yesterday, let me see if I can actually quote him on -- on something. He said yesterday, that we -- if there is a defeat in 2024, it will mean the end of the country. The 2024 presidential election will mean nothing less than the final battle for the US. I am beginning to think that's absolutely true. If we make it to 2024.
KEN: I told him, when he was running for reelection in May, that I was fighting a battle to stop massive bailout ballots. In all the biggest counties.
Travis County. Then Harris County, to Houston. We have 12 lawsuits. If I don't win every single one of those lawsuits, you'll lose Texas. He said, what? That's not possible. I said, it doesn't matter what your polling says. If they can cut out six or seven million ballots for just one count. Say Harris County sends $2.5 million out.
You won by 600,000 votes, you won't win votes. They will count votes.
Because we can't verify. If they mail them out to everyone. There's no signature verification. Which is still not even the best way to make sure people are voting right.
We have no way to verify. They will count as many ballots as they want. They will figure out how their numbers are. And guess what, we thought every one of those lawsuits, even though this is a terrible place. Terrible judges. I watched election night.
I said, this is exactly -- they will stop counting votes for a couple of days. So they can figure out, how many votes they needed to count with these mail-in ballots.
And that's exactly what happened in these other states.
Whenever I bring it up, they say I'm crazy. That's exactly what they did.
GLENN: You know, one thing I really worry about is the number of illegals, in you're country. The ones we don't even know about. We already, since Biden got into office. We have already passed the population of 15 different states. Combinations of three states. Would equal the amount that has come in.
It is -- it's -- you're seeing crime and everything else.
And we're only seeing the surface of this.
I -- I wonder if Texas can stand. How much is this changing?
If they can just register, or -- or get people to get in here to do voting. Which is their plan? Beyond that, the crime, the social services. The hospitals.
I -- I -- we're so close to the border. If we don't get this border sealed, we're done.
KEN: No, this is the plan.
People are like, why did Biden do this?
One, first, voting. Getting as many people, in the Republican states, that they can come.
Voters, whether it's legal or illegal. Right now, they can vote illegally.
No one is going to do anything about it. It won't matter.
Second, they wanted to get as many illegals into these Republican states.
Guess what, we're doing better than Democratic states.
We have low taxes, less regulation.
And they want to bring in more problems.
They want to take us down, because the story is too good for Texas, Florida, and Tennessee, Utah. The Republican states were successful.
The Democrat states are losing people.
Because people are voting with their feet. The Biden administration said, okay. We'll make you pay for it. We'll make you pay for all the schooling, health care, law enforcement, crime.
Your kids are going to die. We will get you, and that's what the Biden administration is all about.
GLENN: Well, any good news to report?
KEN: Yeah. There's always help.
GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I have to tell you, it looked like they were going to be able to railroad you.
And, look, I know you're not a perfect person.
But, you know, I had a real problem, when they came to the impeachment hearings after promising, just like the Democrats. All kinds of evidence. All kinds of -- and then literally nothing.
KEN: Their lawyers, Glenn, said it will be ten times worse than the public.
Guess what, it's ten times less.
They tried to railroad me out. No testimony that's required by law.
No due process. No chance for me to refute any of this stuff.
All done secretly. No transparency done in three days. Some other things. Now, I have no resources.
I spent all my money on a campaign.
I have no -- I had no lawyers.
I had three months to figure out what they had.
And they kept hiding information, even though they were requiring the turnover. And then, of course, I had the gag orders. I couldn't defend myself. I couldn't go out and talk, couldn't call you.
On the other hand, they were able to leak information to the press. Every day, I've been impounded. All of that, was against me.
And yet, because of the people in Texas, because of my strong family support, because of my wife's support. And because of the grace of God. You know, I just decided, I'm going to fight this to the last second.
I will not resign. Because if they win this. Because they can just do this to anybody they want. I will not let the voters down.
GLENN: So who will pay for this?
Is any -- is any investigation -- I don't want revenge.
I want this to not be able to happen again.
KEN: No. So Dan Patrick, God bless him for this. He called for an audit. Which I think was fair. They were trying to figure out how much money they were spending. I think we will find out how much money they spent. Which is millions.
And look, it's totally unfair to push someone out of office, with no proof.
And I have to pay for it.
And I have to lose, just because they have all the money for the taxpayers. And I'm left with just nothing.
Most people would not have made it through that. With no resources.
And that is unfair to the House bill, is that suspended with no proof. And then take away one -- illegally cuts my salary off to punish me.
Even though he had no authority to do that.
And I'm supposed to survive this.they did everything they could to make it impossible for me to get the truth out, and to survive.
GLENN: This is so weird.
KEN: Again, against the will of the voters.
GLENN: We are becoming an old Soviet state. It's terrifying.
KEN: This is Texas, Glenn. Texas.
GLENN: Oh, I know. I know. Ken, thank you very much. I appreciate it. God bless. Thank you.
Apparently, men think about the Roman Empire a lot — often in a positive light. But that's NOT the solution, Glenn warns. We don't need a Caesar to fix our problems. We need to start standing for the Constitution again. Glenn reviews some of the insane news of the day, from Attorney General Merrick Garland's infuriating Congressional testimony to the Biden administration's decision to go after a German family who fled to America for religious freedom. "I'm not sure I know how to help anymore," Glenn says. "The hour is growing very, very late." But there is hope. Conservatives just need to get their act together.
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: Honest to God, America. What is wrong with you?
How is this not clearly a problem? Look at what is happening in our court system. Look at what Massey has to say yesterday to our attorney general.
You've seen this yet? Here's the first clip from Massey and our attorney general, the chief law enforcement officer of our country. Listen to this.
VOICE: That was your answer to questions made two years ago. When I said, how many agents or assets of the government were present on January 5th and January 6th, and agitating in the crowd, to go into the Capitol. And how many went into the Capitol? Can you answer that now?
VOICE: I don't know the answer to that question.
VOICE: Oh, last time, you didn't know how many there were, or there were none?
VOICE: I don't know any of those questions, if there were any. I don't know how many, or whether there are any.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
VOICE: I think you may have just purged yourself, that you don't know that there were any. You don't know that there were any?
VOICE: I have no personal knowledge on this matter.
VOICE: You've had two years to find out.
And the day -- by the way, that was in reference to Ray Epps.
And yesterday, you indicted him. Isn't that a wonderful coincidence on a misdemeanor?
Meanwhile, you're sending grandmas to prison. You're putting people away for 20 years, who weren't really filming.
Some people weren't even there. Yet, you got the guy on video. Saying, he's going into the Capitol.
Directing people into the Capitol, before the speech ends. He's at the site of the first breach. You have all the goods on him. Ten videos, and it's an indictment for a misdemeanor?
The American public isn't buying it.
GLENN: Okay. Listen, this is what he said about that question in 2021, listen.
VOICE: I was hoping today to give an opportunity to put to rest the concerns that people have, that there were federal agents, or assets of the federal government, present on January 5th, and January 6th.
You can tell us, without talking about particular incidents. Or particular videos. How many agents or assets of the federal government were present on January 6th.
Whether they agitated to go into the Capitol. And if any of them did.
VOICE: So I will not violate this norm of the rule of law.
I won't comment on an investigation that is ongoing.
How do you -- how do you investigate January 6th, and you don't -- you haven't even asked, if we had any agents on the ground?
How is that even possible!
How is that possible? Is anyone else, beside people who voted differently than Joe Biden. Is anyone else saying, wait a minute.
Ray Epps, he was on the FBI's most wanted list. Then they removed his picture after a few days.
Then when people said, wait a minute. Who is this guy? Others identified him as Ray Epps.
He then becomes no big deal.
The New York Times does this love letter to Ray Epps.
He's on videotape. Saying, we have to go in there. We have to go in, tomorrow.
We go in. We have videotape of him actually looking at one guy, who is standing at the gate, who is not trying to open it up.
And he leans in, and whispers in his ear. And pretty soon, not long after the whisper in the ear, within seconds, that guy starts shoving the gate open. And letting everybody in.
And Ray Epps actually said in testimony, I was just telling him, is this isn't you. The cops are our friends. Don't do this.
Because he was peaceful before.
And this guy is now getting a misdemeanor.
He's everything. The Biden administration says, is a problem.
He's everything. All of the people, that were there, around him, when he was giving the speech, the night before. Everybody around him. Trump supporters. Real Trump supporters, were shouting, fed, fed. Fed.
Because they sensed that this was a setup.
Does anybody have a problem with that?
Does anybody have a problem with what Garland is doing, slow walking every investigation, in Washington. And then putting grandmas in jail.
Look, we don't usually prosecute people, who lie on their form.
You know, for their gun. Excuse me, what?
This administration? This one, isn't looking for every opportunity to put somebody in jail.
A white guy?
Huh. I -- I -- I'm not sure I know how to help anymore. I really don't.
I'm having a very difficult time, because the hour is growing very, very late.
And I don't see the movements. You know what, here's what I see. Here's what I see. I see people if we go to very frustrated, and they're going, you know what, get them.
I see that. I see guys apparently talking about the Roman empire all the time. I don't even know what that is.
Stu, how many times do you think of the Roman empire a day?
STU: I mean, zero. But I have read two Marcus Aurelias in the past year. So that is a -- I would like style zero. That was my initial response. But actually more than that.
GLENN: My answer is never. But I spell never N-E-5-E-R. I mean, this is ridiculous. And we need a new Caesar Day. No, we don't. No, we don't. Where are the people that are learning the Constitution? Where are the people that are standing for the Constitution?
You have brave whistle-blowers now. But nobody seems to care about what the whistle-blowers are saying. And these whistle-blowers are credible.
You know their names.
They're taking the heat.
It's not, like, when you hear what this whistle-blower. We won't tell you who it is. Even though, everybody knows who it is already. And that makes it suspect.
We're not going to tell you, that that's him. Because he has stuff, that you won't believe.
And then where is the stuff?
Just exactly what happened to Ken Paxton.
Do you know that the governor yesterday.
Well, let me just tell you this one. Let me just tell you this one. This one shows me how deep the problems are.
Do you remember talking about a couple from Germany, who had seven kids?
The Romakey family.
And they came over here. This was like 2013. And they came over here, because the state said they had to teach their kids.
I don't remember what it was. And they were like, no. That violates our religious point of view.
No. We can't do that. And so they were going to take the kids away. And so they decided to come over here.
And after a battle with the Obama administration, they were allowed to stay here in Virginia. Do you know what the Biden administration just did. After leaving these people alone, for ten years, give theming hope, that America was a place that they could actually have freedom of religion without any notice or anything.
They just called them up. And said, by the way, you have to return to Germany, or you're out.
We have two and a half to 3 million people in the last two years. Coming across our border. And yet, you have this family, in Virginia. That is peaceful, kind, productive.
All they want, is to teach their kids about God.
And our government -- this shows you, how much money and how deep this goes.
When you have time, in these days to go,, oh, you remember that family? Get them.
The governor in Pennsylvania yesterday, just signed a new order, where now you can be registered to vote with your driver's license. Okay. Except, that's not what the law says.
The governor cannot do that. The legislature has to.
And they currently have a system, where you go to get your driver's license. And you have to check a box. I want to register my vote now, or not.
All you have to do is check a box!
That's too much work. They took the box off. The government did, by himself.
Disregarding the Constitution of Pennsylvania. Don't worry. They can do it.
I -- I have got something prepared for next hour. That is the answer. But I don't -- I don't think. I'm not sure if people want the answer.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure.Ing I think so many people have buried their heads. And the people who are actually aware of it are like, what are we going to do? What are we going to do?
I'm so close to just saying, get to the mountains, gang. Get to the mountains.
Let God sort all this stuff out. It will be ugly. It will be ugly. Because we refuse to turn back to him. After September 11th, well, we learned our lesson. Oh, God, help us. Oh, God help us. And we actually meant, oh, God, help us.
Eh. We went our own way. And now look at where we are.
I pray for you every day. I ask that you would pray for me. And my staff. And for guidance. I don't even -- I'm getting to the point where, I don't know what is true anymore.
I don't know what is true. I mean, I've been duped and fooled so many times, in so many ways. That I'm like, and, you know, I believe in the best in people.
I believe in the people of America. I believe in you.
And I know we can turn this around. I mean, wonder, where the hell are our armies are?
And I mean armies of even bureaucrats.
Of think tank people. Who are actually doing something.
These people have thought this through for years.
This is not happening through happenstance. It's not because Biden sucks.
This is a plan!
Where is ours?
Where is our -- where is the group that is -- we can coalesce around?
California is already struggling to pay its unemployment insurance and has been taking out federal loans — aka YOUR tax dollars — to pay unemployed residents. Now, California's legislature has passed a bill that would give striking writers, actors, and other union members unemployment insurance. Glenn warns that this ridiculous system would practically allow people to strike forever on YOUR dime. Is the Biden administration okay with this? Because if Gov. Gavin Newsom signs this bill, the state will probably ask for a lot more money from the federal government. Will your tax dollar pay for the unions? And even worse ... will your tax dollar bail out California's far-left welfare state?
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: Now, let me tell you two other things that are going on. In California, you also have California, now struggling. They can't pay their unemployment insurance.
Because they've been in the hole, forever.
With this. They've been taking out low-interest loans, from us. The United States government.
Your tax dollars have gone to pay for the unemployment insurance of the state of California. Because they can't balance a budget.
They can't get it done.
So they're paying us, low interest on the loans.
Do you think that's ever going to be paid back?
Here's what they're doing now. California's far left government, is now working with the Biden administration, to bail out striking Hollywood actors. On your dime.
This is happening. California's ultra liberal leaders are on the verge of giving unemployment payments now, to striking Hollywood actors and writers.
Both houses of the legislature, passed a bill to that effect, this week, it only needs Gavin Newsom's signature. And do you think he's not going to sign that? So here's what you have: You have unions who are taking all of this money, from all of their union members.
And part of the deal is: If you have a job, and the union says, we have to strike. Then you're going to get a portion of your pay.
The union will help you out.
But you can't get unemployment insurance. Because you are employed. All you have to do is go back to work. If you're paying people to strike from the union. And also get unemployment insurance. You can strike forever. See, the idea is: Which one is going to fold first? Is it going to be the labor union, or is it going to be the business? Which one -- and it hurts both sides. And so beet are incentivized to get to the table. Would you be for bailing out the giant Hollywood moguls. And the studios. I wouldn't be for that. No, you can't make it work. You can't make it work.
It's your choice. So why are we bailing out the union workers?
Why are we bailing out California, who now cannot making its own payments on insurance for everybody else. Unemployment insurance.
Can't do it.
They're in the hole.
Now they want to add unions to that.
And what happens, when it happens in California?
You think it's not going to happen in Michigan?
You will be paying for the unions. But that's what happens, when you have over $2 billion going into Joe Biden's campaign, from the labor unions.
He's the most labor-friendly president of all time.
Oh, by the way, so you get Gavin Newsom's signature. That's happening. Then what has to happen?
Well, then, it's just because it's the administration. So does the president need to act?
No. It's in the secretary's purview. So the Secretary of Labor, has to make this decision on how to spend our tax dollars. So the Secretary of Labor has to personally approve the request.
Now, who is this? Well, she's the acting secretary for the administration. Because the Congress won't approve her. So they're just going ahead with it anyway. Go ahead. Take the job. And you're just acting. You're not, actually, the secretary.
Why won't Congress approve her?
Because she was the one who came from California, and was in charge of the state's unemployment program. She oversaw $32 billion in fraudulent payments, occurring the pandemic.
Time for a promotion.
That's my red line. My red line has always been, I'm not bailing out California. I'm not bailing it out.
I'm not bailing out any of these perform
I've always wanted to live in California. You know why I didn't?
Because it was insane. I knew it wouldn't work. I didn't want to spend all of my money. Paying for taxes, for things I knew would only make society worse. And knew it would collapse at some point.
So I never got the beach of California.
And yet, now I have to pay for their mistakes?
How do you feel about that, Alabama? How do you feel about that Michigan? You probably like it, at least if you're a politician. Because, you know, your state will need it. Another reason not to live in Chicago. It wouldn't work!
YouTube has demonetized comedian Russell Brand's account after allegations dropped that he sexually assaulted and raped multiple women. The BBC has also announced an internal review of Brand's time at the network and is "urgently looking into" issues raised in a Channel 4 documentary on Brand. Glenn points out the apparent hypocrisy of the outlet, which had no problem paying Brand, despite his alleged behavior — which he has denied — being an "open secret," according to one accuser. Plus, Glenn and Stu discuss how disturbing the companies' quick reactions have been, given that Brand hasn't even been charged with or convicted of anything yet. If YouTube can demonetize someone for accusations of "off-platform behavior" from over a decade ago, Glenn says, then "we live in Salem Witch Trial times."
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: So Russell Brand, is in trouble.
Now, here's something -- I want to read this, from the BBC.
From the BBC. Russell Brand resurfaced clips, give a sobering reminder of noughties culture.
The noughties are the noughts, you know. As the 00s of the early -- of the early century.
The early part of the -- the zeros. The noughties. We're being very noughty right now.
From BBC. The noughties aren't so long ago, that it's possible to dismiss them as a different age. There are parts of the decade that British culture would rather forget.
Russell Brand was at the center of a messy celebrity scene of the 2000s that now feels like the cool Britannia Party gone sour.
The recent allegations against the comedian, and resurfaced clips of things he said and did on the air and on stage, have provided a sobering reminder of the seedier side of the pop and media culture in that decade.
Okay. All right.
First of all, Russell Brand is kind of like their Howard Stern. Okay. Okay.
You didn't know exactly what you were getting in those days with Russell Brand. Okay?
Just think Howard Stern. Now, it's provided a sobering reminder of the seedier side of pop media culture in that decade.
Could I just ask the BBC to turn on the radio and listen to the lyrics of songs, they're now playing. Because I guarantee, there's something playing on the BBC about somebody's butt doing something.
Among the claims. Now, listen to this. Resurfaced clips is what this is all about.
Among the claims in channel four's recent dispatched investigation. Into the star. There was a clip from his BBC radio two show in 2004, that seemed to have gone largely unnoticed at the time.
In it Brand interviewed Jimmy Savile. Now, Jimmy Savile was a big, big radio host.
You know, the --
STU: Top of the pops, right?
GLENN: Top of the pops. Everybody loved Jimmy salve I will.
They found out, he's a child predator.
And was molesting kids, in the hospital, while he was visiting. Review, but nobody knows this.
At the time.
Among claims Channel 4's recent dispatches, shows him on BBC, in 2007.
In it, Brand interviewed Jimmy Savile and apparently offered up his very attractive assistant to go meet him naked.
Sound like Howard Stern?
GLENN: Okay. This is in 2007, he said this to the BBC host, of.
Of top of the pops. Another BBC host said, you go ahead and take my assistant here. She'll go get naked. Funny. He said, naughty word. Naughty. Get it?
Okay. When did they expose, so to speak, Jimmy Savile, being a child predator? When was that, Stu?
GLENN: 2012. So something that went unnoticed, in 2007.
STU: Because no one knew about the accusation.
GLENN: No one knew about this. Okay.
While the clip was from before salve I will had been exposed as a serial sexual predator, it scarcely believed now that it was broadcast Britain's biggest radio station.
You know, wait a minute. Hang on just a second. Not that Russell Brand said that. That's not really the problem, BBC. The problem is you hired that guy and held him up as a hero for decades on the BBC.
There are several clips of Brand pushing the line between outrageous and offensive stuff that were used in the Channel 4 documentary on a Saturday.
They're doing an exposé, on what they aired twenty years ago, and making Russell Brand into the bad guy.
You aired it. You aired it. It's like Westwood 1, coming in and saying, let me tell you something.
I want to show you some videotape, of what Howard Stern was doing.
Yeah. Because you were paying him to do it.
How is that a problem for him, and not you?
I don't know. It's crazy.
STU: Ask they actually are sort of doing that to Stern right now. There are definitely people out there looking for --
GLENN: Looking. You spent five minutes, and you could find it. Of course.
STU: Just over the September 11th, you know, anniversary. Happened to stumble upon this Howard Stern Show, from September 11th.
STU: It is a different era. The -- the -- the difference in -- as that's going on. They're watching buildings in realtime. It's a fascinating thing to watch from a historical perspective. But the anger on the show, and the way that they were talking. The words they were saying.
The things that came out of their mouths.
It was --
GLENN: Were they singing songs about doing things with people's butts?
STU: They were not.
They were doing that right before the planes actually hit the building.
But it was interesting to hear the occasion -- Robin Quivers, who was ready to nuke the entire Middle East.
It was like -- it was pretty interesting to watch. You go back and watch those shows. Look, it was a different time.
You're going to judge these by today's standards. That's always dumb.
It's always dumb to go back to a previous era, and judge it by today's standards. It's always dumb to do that.
And it does seem to be what everyone wants to do.
GLENN: Well, I just can't take the employer, doing a documentary on how outrageous he was. And how he should be stoned to death, at the time they were paying him to do those things. I mean, that takes quite the balls.
STU: Well, and the BBC in particular, is in the Russell Brand situation, is specifically accused. Like, they are --
GLENN: They were --
STU: They were saying, they were helping it along. That's the accusation.
GLENN: Like listening to a documentary on BBC.
STU: Right. Like they were sending cars to pick up the girls that were 16 years old for Russell Brand.
GLENN: Which, by the way, was not illegal at the time.
It sounds horrible, but it wasn't illegal at the time.
STU: And no one was saying it was illegal. Not necessarily the best --
GLENN: Now, why is this all happening to him? Why? Why? Why?
STU: It's a good question.
I think there's a very obvious answer to it.
GLENN: Go ahead.
STU: Well, when he was famous and married to Katy Perry and doing all this, there was no news of these accusations. He was known as a bad guy. Right? Like a very promiscuous guy. To his own telling. He was addicted to drugs. He was addicted to alcohol. He was addicted to sex.
GLENN: Has a changed all of that.
STU: He's changed all of that. And has become a commentator who has been skeptical of some of the things you're not allowed to be skeptical of, like COVID. Climate change. ESG standards.
GLENN: Yeah. And the World Economic Forum is his biggest thing.
STU: Now he's been --
GLENN: Now he's being targeted for that.
STU: Look, of course, you would agree, if he committed horrible crimes against people, he should be punished for them, even if he has reformed his character.
He still is held responsible for crimes.
GLENN: Yes. Yes.
STU: But this does not seem to be what's -- it may not be what's going on.
GLENN: We have a hard time in this culture. Where we just make accusations, and we destroy people.
GLENN: Now, listen, Russell Brand has now been demonetized by YouTube.
Now, what does that mean?
Russell Brand makes his money on his YouTube videos. Okay?
So they have just demonetized him.
So they won't sell or give him any money for what he's doing.
The BBC said it removed some programs featuring him from its streaming services.
So they were still paying for the guy.
Now, it looks like YouTube is doing the same, because the quote from YouTube is absolutely amazing.
Where is it? Where is it? Brand took his online social media platforms. Saying it was a coordinated attack.
Yes, it was. They said that now. I can't find the exact quote.
STU: While you're looking for that. Can we talk about quickly what the line is here?
Because there is a process that goes on.
When you're going to be convicted of a crime. And that begins with an accusation. Then comes that investigation.
Then comes a charge, filed against you.
Then comes a conviction, that comes a sentence. Right?
Why can't these companies just draw a line? Like make a line. What's the line?
A charge. Right? If someone gets criminally charged with something, we're going to pull them off of our service.
GLENN: Is that fair?
STU: I don't know. I think --
GLENN: We used to believe it was a conviction.
STU: That's where I would go. If you're convicted of a crime. Even if you might say you're innocent, we have to have some way of sorting this out. That's what our legal system is for.
GLENN: And if you want to do that. If you want to take it off early, just pay the person. Pay the person. So you don't destroy their life.
STU: The NFL, you're under contract. And someone comes up with an accusation, and they think they need to pull you off. They pull you out. They put you on the commissioner's suspended list. But you're still getting paid. Because, look, there's no conviction.
Nothing has been proven. If you're proven in a court of law to be guilty of a crime, It makes sense. That is the line, probably.
Instead, what it is, if someone accuses you -- now, of course, people have been saying bad things about Russell Brand for a very long time.
He's been saying bad things about himself, for a very, very long time. All the money that was coming through was fine. Until this news story had been written.
He was not charged with a crime. Let alone convicted of one.
He may be charged and convicted later.
But he hasn't been yet.
He said his relationships were always consensual.
He was accused of rape and sexual assault between 2006 and 2013.
He denies the claims. Was any -- were any charges filed?
Did anybody go to the police at the time? Anything.
Anything. He says, no.
I don't want to judge, because I don't know the man. We're not in a courtroom.
But here's what YouTube said. You ready for this standard, Stu?
See if this is -- if this is a little earlier than conviction.
If a creator's off platform behavior harms our users, our employees, or ecosystem, we take action.
Now, I don't know how his off-platform behavior in 2006.
GLENN: Yeah. Harmed your users, employees, or ecosystem.
What they're saying is, if somebody calls in our ecosystem, and says, I can't believe you guys are doing this. I'm not going to advertise. Or I'm not going to provide that chair for your conference room. I'm not going to do it. Because you will keep him up. That harms the ecosystem, and they can take action. This is -- we live in the Salem witch trial tames.
STU: It's true, though.
And, you know what, though. I can understand how these companies react this way.
Going back to your book, Dark Future. And the Great Reset.
And then great example of this is Twitter. You know, you go to use Twitter or whatever the heck they're calling it this week.
And, I mean, if I get another ad for Cheech and Chong gummies. Like every one of their ads are just trash. Because there's no companies on there anymore. They've all just left. Because Elon Musk said, you're allowed to speak freely. So all the companies just left. I mean, he himself is saying, that revenue is down 80 percent.
GLENN: And he himself is being charged with crimes that are not crimes. He's charged with not hiring new migrants that don't have green cards, don't have anything.
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