RADIOMay 30, 2023

Chip Roy SLAMS Republicans’ "TERRIBLE" debt ceiling deal

If the currently proposed debt ceiling deal with Democrats moves forward, will Americans ever trust the Republican Party again? Possibly not, but thankfully there ARE several GOP members standing strong against Speaker McCarthy’s deal. One of those taking a stand against it, Rep, Chip Roy, joins Glenn to explain just how ‘terrible’ this deal truly is: ‘They abandoned us. They failed. They cut a bad deal.’ But it hasn’t been passed yet. So, Rep. Roy explains how YOU can help stop this bill…

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: I will get right to Chip Roy. Because he's on a tight schedule here. So let's go to Chip now. Hello, Chip, how are you?

CHIP: Glenn, I'm doing great. Great to be on. And yeah, I'm on a tight schedule, because we got to go fight, try to stop this thing. But happy to be on the show.

GLENN: Yeah, so I really think that Speaker McCarthy has just given the nomination to Donald Trump. For any of these weasels who are like, I don't want Donald Trump. He's an extremist. You just gave him the nomination, in my opinion.

Not that Florida, Ron DeSantis, is going to agree with this deal. But no one will trust the Republicans after this. We gave you the benefit of the doubt, McCArthy. And this is what you return. It's what, 4 trillion, or is it 6 trillion, that they can raise the debt ceiling up to in the next couple of years .

CHIP: Well, we should take it piece by piece. You're right that this is a, quote, unquote, deal.

For your listeners out there, who are smarter than the average listener, what we get is a date certain for a debt ceiling increase. January 1st, 2025. There is no actual dollar amount. So what that means is, you essentially have an uncapped increase in the debt ceiling to a date certain. That date certain happens to fall in the middle of a lame duck Congress, by the way. Right? Or lame duck presidency, if we're lucky.

What do we get for that probably $4 trillion of additional debt or more, depending on what happens, with it being uncapped, and able to be potentially extended. We get at best, in my opinion. If I'm being as dangerous as I can be, to the people that negotiated this, is a two-year freeze in spending. A two-year freeze in spending, roughly. I go up a little. Might be down a little. But basically a freeze, truly.

And that's only for two years of actual caps. And for that, you know, you will see a slight bending of the post-COVID curve.

Now, what does that mean? You'll see the Wall Street Journal. And they're bending the curve.

This is historic! They're flattening it. Yeah, we heard all that same crap during COVID by the way. This is just taking the post-COVID spending, and freezing it for a couple of years.

While we continue to feed the best. The federal bureaucracy. And we do nothing.

Nothing to end the IRA, subsidized unreliable energy.

We have minor work requirements. We basically increased the age for SNAP from 49 to 54, and call that a win while not touching Medicaid. We have no REINS Act, pulling back the regulatory state.

We get something called Administration Pay Go, to offset the cost of regulation. But they can wave it. Which means it's nothing. We uphold the student loans. To make the decisions about the $500 billion of picking winners and losers in student loans. The IRS stays expanded, minus basically 1.4 billion.

You really can't make this up. And with all due respect to the leadership.

They say it's historic.

They miscalculated it. They flipped into their old ways. I will meet with them today.

I will keep fighting.

I am trying to make it clear, that I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. That this wasn't sinister.

That they just slipped to their old ways. Well, we have to do a deal. Yeah. You can't do that.

The no votes are mounting. And if you're a listener out there. Make sure every one of your members of Congress knows, get your -- your voices need to be heard. Vote no on this.

We can still kill this, and start over and do the right thing.

GLENN: I mean, I would take this, if you have the REINS Act.

But you got nothing.

You've got nothing. You have no reins, if you will, on this horse that is just being whipped to death, in spending.

CHIP: Yeah. Correct. That is 100 percent correct. We got -- out of the deal that we did.

Limit, Save, Grow. For a $1.5 trillion debt ceiling into early next year. We got a lot of good things.

And, look, I'm not saying whether I think we could have gotten every single piece of that.

I understand we've got to negotiate. I think that was the right starting place. But you tell me, you are going to jack this out two years, to almost $4 trillion, and you will get literally, not one actual full thing on the list of stuff we put, in the Limit, Save, Grow Act. Not one thing. Everything was like some fractional piece of something on the list. So they could say they did something. Right? 1.4 billion off of the 80 billion of the IRS. And then say, see, we did something for the IRS. No, you have $78.6 billion of expanded IRS that plays over ten years.

And you're trying to sell that to me, as a victory? That's just not correct.

This is old swamp thinking. This is a course correction.

GLENN: You know what, let's just -- let's just cut the crap.

Old swamp thinking. This -- nothing is changing with the Republican Party. Because the leadership, they're all swamp monsters. They're all swamp monsters.

Until those swamp monsters are put back out to pasture. You're not going to have anything changed. You're not.

You will have a lot of good Republicans like you, that have come up. And they actually mean what they say. And say what they mean.

But until -- until those swamp monsters are taken out, and, you know, let them go to their nursing homes. Nothing is going to change.

I don't know why we should give them the benefit of the doubt, that oh, you know. This is -- we made a mistake?

What?

You had everything going for you.

Everything!

Now -- now, what's going to happen?

The president made a deal. He compromised now the Republicans are -- it's just these extremists holding hostage.

The Republican Party. It's the same thing over again!

CHIP: Yes. Glenn, look, I agree with every word of it. Just, let's make sure I'm being very clear over here.

I personally think this was a complete and total sellout of everything that we accomplished in January, everything we did in the first Limit, Save, Grow Act, and everything we accomplished with HR2. I think it is -- I think it is a betrayal of the power sharing arrangement we put in place.

That would protect the Republican Party, to make sure we could advance the ball forward.

We are not blind to the fact that we have to figure out how to get 218 votes. We understand that's hard.

We had a process, that was working.

That process was completely abandoned last week. The deal was cut.

And that was a betrayal of the agreement, that we had reached, in order to create something, that we thought would work. That's what I'm getting at. I will try to fix that today. If I cannot, in the Rules Committee, when I go fight this in the Rules Committee. If I can't kill it. If we can't kill it on the floor tomorrow.

Then we will have to regroup and figure out the whole leadership arrangement again.

GLENN: I was going to say, you got it.

McCarthy, I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

I wasn't for him. I thought he was a swamp monster. And just last week, I thought, you know what, I'll give him credit.

He's playing this very well.

Now, he's just betrayed.

Again, I give the benefit of the doubt, to the Republican. And they just sheave me in the chest.

CHIP: So I want to be as clear as I can be. This is not the end of this. This is the process that we started in January. We showed that you can govern conservatively and win.

We did it. We were doing it. They abandoned it. It is our job now to course correct.

Again, not to quote Rumsfeld.

But you go to war with the army you have got.

Look, the bottom line is, we were winning. And we were demonstrating how to govern conservatively. So we will do that today. We will have a press conference in 45 minutes.

The 20 are strong. There are others that are with us.

We are going to make our message be loud and clear. I will make my message loud and clear in the Rules Committee, and then we will keep moving forward.

Trying to earn votes, and try to build out where we need to head. To do exactly what you just said. To make sure the American people are inspired.

What I was trying to tell the people here, that if we lose. And we lose the votes, because we get rolled. They get these addendums and the squishes in our conference, that roll us.

Don't go and roll -- you know, roll, and cut a deal. And then go try to sell me, that it's not, you know, selling me out.

Because that's what they're doing. They're trying to snow me. They're trying to snow the American people. And say, oh, this is a great deal.

It is not.

The chart that I put out on my Twitter account. Social media. Where I make very clear. The side-by-side comparison of where we were. And where we ended up.

And it's not even close.

GLENN: No.

I know you have to run. So what do you want the American people to do?

Anybody that still -- honestly, I don't know how many times, you guys can say, call your Congressman. Because, I mean, really?

CHIP: Well, let me back up and just say, for five months, we actually were winning.

HR2 wasn't backed in a historic position for Republicans to take on the board. The first Limit, Save, Grow Act. That was a pretty historic bill.

So now, they abandoned us. They failed. They cut a bad deal.

It hasn't been passed yet.

Just get involved in the next 48 hours.

Make sure every Republican knows, is this a bad deal.

Make your voice heard loudly. Do it on social media. Do it to their offices.

We will fight on here. Then we will regroup. And figure out what the next step is. To hold the line, and make sure we're going to get our leadership arrangement, for collecting conservative principles again.

I promise, we will keep fighting.

The 20 aren't flinching, Glenn. We are just starting.

GLENN: Okay. Good.

Would love to have you. And anyone else in that 20, that would like to come in and talk tomorrow about the progress. Because we have 48 hours. I would love to have you back on tomorrow, Chip. And just give us an update. Thank you.

CHIP: Okay. Happy to do it. Either I will do it, or somebody else.

GLENN: Thank you so much. Buh-bye. That is the problem. We do have people in there that are really fighting hard.

For the first time, I think we have 20 people that will stand, but it's all these mamby, pamby, wishy-washy.

Look what the left has done to the country!

Why?

Because they will sell out every principle they have. They don't care who they stand with.

And they're standing with Marxists.

Well, I think we should give them more money. I don't want to be an extremist.

You're being an extremist.

You're standing for the Constitution!

What is wrong with the American people?

When did the Constitution -- the longest running Constitution, in all of the history of man. The average Constitution lasts 17 years!

Exposed: Obama-Biden Judges’ Shocking Coup to Sabotage Trump’s Agenda

There is a judicial coup happening against President Trump, Glenn argues. Glenn exposes the activist Obama and Biden-era judges who are conducting a full-scale, coordinated assault against the mandate that the American people gave Trump. There’s Judge James Boasberg, who tried to stop Trump from deporting illegal immigrant criminals. Then, there’s Judge Ana Reyes, who halted Trump’s trans ban in the military (and who also has a long history of donating to Democrats). Also fighting Trump are judges Theodore Chang and Amir Ali, who are trying to reverse Trump’s dismantling of USAID. This isn’t normal “checks and balances.” This is left-wing judges using lawfare to play president and fight the dismantling of the deep state.

Watch this FULL episode of Glenn TV HERE.

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Are European Union elites working to “sabotage” President Trump’s plans for the West? Glenn speaks with Heritage Foundation president Kevin Roberts, who makes the case that Trump is trying to reset the West and stop the “managed decline” of the World Economic Forum’s Great Reset. But many European leaders are so embedded into that old system that they won’t go down without a fight. Glenn and Kevin also discuss Trump’s negotiations with Mexico and Canada, whether former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss was right to call Britain a “failed state,” and why Kevin believes Trump’s cabinet, JD Vance, and one other thing are Trump’s biggest wins.

Former Sniper WARNS Major “Instability” May Hit This Summer

Former U.S. Army Special Forces Sniper Tim Kennedy joins Glenn to warn that “real instability” is coming across many parts of the world, including the Middle East, Haiti, Congo, and other parts of Africa. And one of the main signs of this is “the killing of Christians” at high levels in those regions. With a civil war brewing in Afghanistan, “genocide” level attacks in regions of Africa, and more trouble on the horizon, predictive models have found that things could very likely boil over soon. But Kennedy details how the Trump administration, especially Tulsi Gabbard, Kash Patel, and Pam Bondi, are working overtime to “get ahead of what we know is coming” and keep Americans safe.

Transcript

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GLENN: We're talking to Tim Kennedy. Talking to the president about the border, and what's going on with the border this week. And I said, you know, if I were, you know, a Mexican citizen. And knowing that my government was in bed with the cartels. I would be hoping that some special forces just showed up in the middle of the night. And started killing people. In these cartels. And I said, well, that would be news breaking if I said that was a good idea.

You know, I hope it doesn't come to that. It was clear, that that is on the table. I mean, that really has to happen. Does it not?

I mean, that is a collapsed narco state in Mexico. Isn't it?

MATT: Yeah, we -- the rules of war that we'll be experiencing for the next five to ten years are not the traditional maneuver warfare that people remember from Korea and from Vietnam, and from even -- you know, we know who our enemy is. These are going to be businesses.

These are syndicated criminal organizations, that do not fight fair, and the cartel owns both the businesses, the corporations, and the criminal networks that are involved in that.

So, yes. It's absolutely on the table. And a group of people that are sitting on like the go button, are absolute savages, Mr. Beck.

GLENN: They are. I know some of them. I know some of them.

And they're just like -- and they're just -- they're just champing at the bit to go, I know. I know.

TIM: That's the truth.

We're in conversation with the cartels right now. And the cartels are saying, hey, we don't want to die. We don't want to be wiped off the face of the planet, which we know is not going to happen. So, you know, are there other options. Hey, what if we stopped human trafficking?

What if we stopped fentanyl production entirely?

What if -- what if all of that just goes away. What if we stop and seal the border on the south side. What are you -- will we maybe be allowed to transport some cocaine and some marijuana?

I'm totally fine with this. If we stop fentanyl. Human trafficking. Gun smuggling. And we stop the invasion of our border, I'll -- and we don't have to do a while bunch of killing.

You know, whatever.

But they know they're on the brink of --

GLENN: I hope they do.

TIM: Of existence.

GLENN: I hope they do.

You know, when you look at what's happening here.

And what they're bringing over here.

I mean, it has to stop, dead in its tracks.

It has to stop.

And it has to stop soon. The president is dealing with these courts. Which I just think is judicial insurrection as Mike Lee puts it. And it has to stop.

The president has to protect our borders, and has to protect our cities. This is -- you know, this is the opium wars, done to China by the English.

You know, 200 years ago. 150 years ago. And now they're doing it to us.

That's what -- that's what is happening.

TIM: Yeah.

GLENN: Tell me about the Christians and genocide, that you believe is on the horizon.

TIM: Just yesterday.

Back at the White House yesterday.

Listening to some brief about -- there's some brilliant companies that are able to do predictive modeling.

Using literally every public and classified source of information.

And there's these events that are pretty predictable.

You know, they predicted what would happen in Afghanistan. Predicted what would happen in Ukraine.

They see regionally that on the very near horizon, as soon as like late summer.

We are going to see real instability throughout CENTCOM and the Endo-Pacific region.
And some of those things -- some of the catalysts that are -- the data points are what are the killing of Christians.

And it's happening all over CENTCOM.

And --

GLENN: Explain CENTCOM. Explain CENTCOM for anybody who doesn't what CENTCOM means. Explain that.

TIM: Just imagine the Middle East starting kind of in north Africa.

And western Asia. And everything that has lots of deserts. And lots of Muslim countries -- just -- by coincidence, there's also Israel. That's in CENTCOM.

One of the few non-Muslim democracies, in that whole entire region.

Ask, you know, the Houthis and Hamas. And Hezbollah.

And then in former countries, like in Syria and Iraq, Afghanistan, those places, it's just a massacre of Christians, right now.

GLENN: So let me take a one-minute break.

Come back, because I want to talk to you more about that. Because you've been involved. We've been with you with Mercury One, and trying to help. And I know what we're gearing up for.

And I want to see if there's anything that you need and you would recommend, besides told prayers for Christians.

And I want to go deeper into what this predictive model is showing in just a second.

First, let me tell you about Preborn.

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What would you say?

If a scared young woman looked you in the eye and said, I don't think I could do this.

I'm alone. I don't know if it's really a baby yet.

What would you do?

Would you yell at her? Would you say, you can't do that! You'll go to hell.

Or would you tell her, you're strong enough. You are. Show her pictures of your kids maybe. Talk about miracles?

Talk about God? Talk about anything?

Anything. We're here for you. Would you just wait.

None of us would show her pictures of an aborted baby. None of us would yell at her.

Okay? The truth is, we'll never be in that room. Most of us. But Preborn will not be in that room. They don't argue or shame.

They do something really simple. It turns out, it's very persuasive. Just offer her a free ultrasound. And when she hears that tiny heartbeat. When she sees the image on the screen, everything changes. More than half the time the mom chooses life, the rest of the time, she's like, I -- I just -- I'm alone. I can't afford.

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GLENN: So, Tim, maybe we'll have you on -- we're doing a big benefit for the Nazarene Fund.

This fall.

I don't even have details on it. I just heard about it yesterday.

What that is, we go and rescue Christians. Or we pay and help people like you, go rescue Christians.

We just empower people like you, to help.

I would love to invite to that. When we get closer, I will.

Tell me about this predictive model. Why is it saying that it's going to get so bad? What's coming our way?

TIM: Yeah.

The Nazarene Fund, and Mercury One, just for -- love you guys.

I don't -- you know, we publicly can't say a lot of the things that we do at save our allies.

But none of it is possible without you, quite frankly.

Like if you look at me, and our team in Afghanistan. Or in Ukraine. Providing humanitarian aid. And pulling people out of the war zones.

Although to the Far East, as far as I possibly can get in far Russia.

Every place that we have been, has been because of you, quite frankly. Mr. Beck.

GLENN: Please. Stop calling me Mr. Beck.

Give credit. This audience is so gracious. They are so gracious.

TIM: Yeah. They just have an understanding.

Samaritan purse. Mercury One. Nazarene Fund.

We see you guys every single place, in the worst, most dire condition. So, you know, Glenn, thank you so much.

To your question, you know, we are -- if you just look in the past month, you know, you can look to Syria. You can look to the -- next to our bill.

You can look to the Congo.

Where you see thousands of Christians being killed.

You see Muslim converts, that were being specifically targeted. Down in Congo just last week.
Another 29 Christians were killed. In 2025, in like the region in Syria. There was like this region of violence. Another thousand were killed.

And so if you take -- if we're going to look for similar areas in the region, and try to predict the instability of a particular administration or government.

There's a whole bunch of -- and we can take historical data from the past 50 years. And start looking at, okay.

Economically, what is happening for instability?

What is happening culturally?

What is happening on -- in the markets?

What's happening in like -- really clear data points. And we have this bell curve of what's normal. And then you have these outliers that are -- that then keep occurring, every time there's a coup. Or every time there's genocide.

Or every time -- and there's enough data now, where we -- especially with AI. And we can scrape all of history.

We can then very accurately start, you know -- all the special operations side. I'm trying to find somebody in space and time.

It's -- that's -- used to be a difficult thing, to predict where a human is going to be.

So I could maybe bring them to justice, and if we look at the first 95 days of the president in office, and our intelligence community specifically, that told them they're going to work. With, you know, Kash Patel, enabling them. Pam Bondi.
45 Americans that have been illegally detained abroad brought home.

You know, we're knocking on the door of 100 radical terrorists, want to do harm to Americans. Dead.

And we are trying to get ahead of what we know is coming. Which is, complete near Civil War in Afghanistan.

Trying to get stability in Congo -- obviously, we see what's happening in Haiti.

And every time one of these places starts becoming less secure and stable, that is the breeding ground for radical adversarial groups, that are funded by our adversaries, like and mine Iran.

To then conduct attacks on Americans.

But they're not doing it direct.

It's like via proxy.

But Haiti, if we don't pay attention to it, China will use it.

Congo will --

GLENN: Yeah, I know.

TIM: And it just keeps happening.

GLENN: Tim, I can't thank you enough for what you do. You're really a remarkable man. It was such an honor to see you at the White House.

And as usual, see you at the White House and you're serving. Serving veterans.

So thank you for everything, Tim.

God bless you.

TIM: Yeah, you're amazing. Always in your corner. Let me know what you need.

GLENN: You've got it. Thank you, Tim Kennedy. US Army Special Forces. He's a sniper. Former UFC fighter, and really a servant to our vets.

Next year, it's going to be a tough year. All the way around us the world.

It's going to be very tough. What he's saying, is coming.

I -- you know, people say, I think Donald Trump will say for a reason, to save the republic. I'm not sure, that we understand God's mind.

It may have just been to postpone and give us more time to prepare. I'm not sure.

I hope we save the republic. But it might be time to prepare. Because things are very, very dicey in the world, and we just need to be prayerful.

Thoughtful. Jesus-like people.