RADIOMay 30, 2023

Chip Roy SLAMS Republicans’ "TERRIBLE" debt ceiling deal

If the currently proposed debt ceiling deal with Democrats moves forward, will Americans ever trust the Republican Party again? Possibly not, but thankfully there ARE several GOP members standing strong against Speaker McCarthy’s deal. One of those taking a stand against it, Rep, Chip Roy, joins Glenn to explain just how ‘terrible’ this deal truly is: ‘They abandoned us. They failed. They cut a bad deal.’ But it hasn’t been passed yet. So, Rep. Roy explains how YOU can help stop this bill…

Transcript

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GLENN: I will get right to Chip Roy. Because he's on a tight schedule here. So let's go to Chip now. Hello, Chip, how are you?

CHIP: Glenn, I'm doing great. Great to be on. And yeah, I'm on a tight schedule, because we got to go fight, try to stop this thing. But happy to be on the show.

GLENN: Yeah, so I really think that Speaker McCarthy has just given the nomination to Donald Trump. For any of these weasels who are like, I don't want Donald Trump. He's an extremist. You just gave him the nomination, in my opinion.

Not that Florida, Ron DeSantis, is going to agree with this deal. But no one will trust the Republicans after this. We gave you the benefit of the doubt, McCArthy. And this is what you return. It's what, 4 trillion, or is it 6 trillion, that they can raise the debt ceiling up to in the next couple of years .

CHIP: Well, we should take it piece by piece. You're right that this is a, quote, unquote, deal.

For your listeners out there, who are smarter than the average listener, what we get is a date certain for a debt ceiling increase. January 1st, 2025. There is no actual dollar amount. So what that means is, you essentially have an uncapped increase in the debt ceiling to a date certain. That date certain happens to fall in the middle of a lame duck Congress, by the way. Right? Or lame duck presidency, if we're lucky.

What do we get for that probably $4 trillion of additional debt or more, depending on what happens, with it being uncapped, and able to be potentially extended. We get at best, in my opinion. If I'm being as dangerous as I can be, to the people that negotiated this, is a two-year freeze in spending. A two-year freeze in spending, roughly. I go up a little. Might be down a little. But basically a freeze, truly.

And that's only for two years of actual caps. And for that, you know, you will see a slight bending of the post-COVID curve.

Now, what does that mean? You'll see the Wall Street Journal. And they're bending the curve.

This is historic! They're flattening it. Yeah, we heard all that same crap during COVID by the way. This is just taking the post-COVID spending, and freezing it for a couple of years.

While we continue to feed the best. The federal bureaucracy. And we do nothing.

Nothing to end the IRA, subsidized unreliable energy.

We have minor work requirements. We basically increased the age for SNAP from 49 to 54, and call that a win while not touching Medicaid. We have no REINS Act, pulling back the regulatory state.

We get something called Administration Pay Go, to offset the cost of regulation. But they can wave it. Which means it's nothing. We uphold the student loans. To make the decisions about the $500 billion of picking winners and losers in student loans. The IRS stays expanded, minus basically 1.4 billion.

You really can't make this up. And with all due respect to the leadership.

They say it's historic.

They miscalculated it. They flipped into their old ways. I will meet with them today.

I will keep fighting.

I am trying to make it clear, that I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. That this wasn't sinister.

That they just slipped to their old ways. Well, we have to do a deal. Yeah. You can't do that.

The no votes are mounting. And if you're a listener out there. Make sure every one of your members of Congress knows, get your -- your voices need to be heard. Vote no on this.

We can still kill this, and start over and do the right thing.

GLENN: I mean, I would take this, if you have the REINS Act.

But you got nothing.

You've got nothing. You have no reins, if you will, on this horse that is just being whipped to death, in spending.

CHIP: Yeah. Correct. That is 100 percent correct. We got -- out of the deal that we did.

Limit, Save, Grow. For a $1.5 trillion debt ceiling into early next year. We got a lot of good things.

And, look, I'm not saying whether I think we could have gotten every single piece of that.

I understand we've got to negotiate. I think that was the right starting place. But you tell me, you are going to jack this out two years, to almost $4 trillion, and you will get literally, not one actual full thing on the list of stuff we put, in the Limit, Save, Grow Act. Not one thing. Everything was like some fractional piece of something on the list. So they could say they did something. Right? 1.4 billion off of the 80 billion of the IRS. And then say, see, we did something for the IRS. No, you have $78.6 billion of expanded IRS that plays over ten years.

And you're trying to sell that to me, as a victory? That's just not correct.

This is old swamp thinking. This is a course correction.

GLENN: You know what, let's just -- let's just cut the crap.

Old swamp thinking. This -- nothing is changing with the Republican Party. Because the leadership, they're all swamp monsters. They're all swamp monsters.

Until those swamp monsters are put back out to pasture. You're not going to have anything changed. You're not.

You will have a lot of good Republicans like you, that have come up. And they actually mean what they say. And say what they mean.

But until -- until those swamp monsters are taken out, and, you know, let them go to their nursing homes. Nothing is going to change.

I don't know why we should give them the benefit of the doubt, that oh, you know. This is -- we made a mistake?

What?

You had everything going for you.

Everything!

Now -- now, what's going to happen?

The president made a deal. He compromised now the Republicans are -- it's just these extremists holding hostage.

The Republican Party. It's the same thing over again!

CHIP: Yes. Glenn, look, I agree with every word of it. Just, let's make sure I'm being very clear over here.

I personally think this was a complete and total sellout of everything that we accomplished in January, everything we did in the first Limit, Save, Grow Act, and everything we accomplished with HR2. I think it is -- I think it is a betrayal of the power sharing arrangement we put in place.

That would protect the Republican Party, to make sure we could advance the ball forward.

We are not blind to the fact that we have to figure out how to get 218 votes. We understand that's hard.

We had a process, that was working.

That process was completely abandoned last week. The deal was cut.

And that was a betrayal of the agreement, that we had reached, in order to create something, that we thought would work. That's what I'm getting at. I will try to fix that today. If I cannot, in the Rules Committee, when I go fight this in the Rules Committee. If I can't kill it. If we can't kill it on the floor tomorrow.

Then we will have to regroup and figure out the whole leadership arrangement again.

GLENN: I was going to say, you got it.

McCarthy, I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

I wasn't for him. I thought he was a swamp monster. And just last week, I thought, you know what, I'll give him credit.

He's playing this very well.

Now, he's just betrayed.

Again, I give the benefit of the doubt, to the Republican. And they just sheave me in the chest.

CHIP: So I want to be as clear as I can be. This is not the end of this. This is the process that we started in January. We showed that you can govern conservatively and win.

We did it. We were doing it. They abandoned it. It is our job now to course correct.

Again, not to quote Rumsfeld.

But you go to war with the army you have got.

Look, the bottom line is, we were winning. And we were demonstrating how to govern conservatively. So we will do that today. We will have a press conference in 45 minutes.

The 20 are strong. There are others that are with us.

We are going to make our message be loud and clear. I will make my message loud and clear in the Rules Committee, and then we will keep moving forward.

Trying to earn votes, and try to build out where we need to head. To do exactly what you just said. To make sure the American people are inspired.

What I was trying to tell the people here, that if we lose. And we lose the votes, because we get rolled. They get these addendums and the squishes in our conference, that roll us.

Don't go and roll -- you know, roll, and cut a deal. And then go try to sell me, that it's not, you know, selling me out.

Because that's what they're doing. They're trying to snow me. They're trying to snow the American people. And say, oh, this is a great deal.

It is not.

The chart that I put out on my Twitter account. Social media. Where I make very clear. The side-by-side comparison of where we were. And where we ended up.

And it's not even close.

GLENN: No.

I know you have to run. So what do you want the American people to do?

Anybody that still -- honestly, I don't know how many times, you guys can say, call your Congressman. Because, I mean, really?

CHIP: Well, let me back up and just say, for five months, we actually were winning.

HR2 wasn't backed in a historic position for Republicans to take on the board. The first Limit, Save, Grow Act. That was a pretty historic bill.

So now, they abandoned us. They failed. They cut a bad deal.

It hasn't been passed yet.

Just get involved in the next 48 hours.

Make sure every Republican knows, is this a bad deal.

Make your voice heard loudly. Do it on social media. Do it to their offices.

We will fight on here. Then we will regroup. And figure out what the next step is. To hold the line, and make sure we're going to get our leadership arrangement, for collecting conservative principles again.

I promise, we will keep fighting.

The 20 aren't flinching, Glenn. We are just starting.

GLENN: Okay. Good.

Would love to have you. And anyone else in that 20, that would like to come in and talk tomorrow about the progress. Because we have 48 hours. I would love to have you back on tomorrow, Chip. And just give us an update. Thank you.

CHIP: Okay. Happy to do it. Either I will do it, or somebody else.

GLENN: Thank you so much. Buh-bye. That is the problem. We do have people in there that are really fighting hard.

For the first time, I think we have 20 people that will stand, but it's all these mamby, pamby, wishy-washy.

Look what the left has done to the country!

Why?

Because they will sell out every principle they have. They don't care who they stand with.

And they're standing with Marxists.

Well, I think we should give them more money. I don't want to be an extremist.

You're being an extremist.

You're standing for the Constitution!

What is wrong with the American people?

When did the Constitution -- the longest running Constitution, in all of the history of man. The average Constitution lasts 17 years!

Shocking train video: Passengers wait while woman bleeds out

Surveillance footage of the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, NC, reveals that the other passengers on the train took a long time to help her. Glenn, Stu, and Jason debate whether they were right or wrong to do so.

Transcript

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GLENN: You know, I'm -- I'm torn on how I feel about the people on the train.

Because my first instinct is, they did nothing! They did nothing! Then my -- well, sit down and, you know -- you know, you're going to be judged. So be careful on judging others.

What would I have done? What would I want my wife to do in that situation?

STU: Yeah. Are those two different questions, by the way.

GLENN: Yeah, they are.

STU: I think they go far apart from each other. What would I want myself to do. I mean, it's tough to put yourself in a situation. It's very easy to watch a video on the internet and talk about your heroism. Everybody can do that very easily on Twitter. And everybody is.

You know, when you're in a vehicle that doesn't have an exit with a guy who just murdered somebody in front of you, and has a dripping blood off of a knife that's standing 10 feet away from you, 15 feet away from you.

There's probably a different standard there, that we should all kind of consider. And maybe give a little grace to what I saw at least was a woman, sitting across the -- the -- the aisle.

I think there is a difference there. But when you talk about that question. Those two questions are definitive.

You know, I know what I would want myself to do. I would hope I would act in a way that didn't completely embarrass myself afterward.

But I also think, when I'm thinking of my wife. My advice to my wife would not be to jump into the middle of that situation at all costs. She might do that anyway. She actually is a heck of a lot stronger than I am.

But she might do it anyway.

GLENN: How pathetic, but how true.

STU: Yes. But that would not be my advice to her.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Now, maybe once the guy has certainly -- is out of the area. And you don't think the moment you step into that situation. He will turn around and kill you too. Then, of course, obviously. Anything you can do to step in.

Not that there was much anyone on the train could do.

I mean, I don't think there was an outcome change, no matter what anyone on that train did.

Unfortunately.

But would I want her to step in?

Of course. If she felt she was safe, yes.

Think about, you said, your wife. Think about your daughter. Your daughter is on that train, just watching someone else getting murdered like that. Would you advise your daughter to jump into a situation like that?

That girl sitting across the aisle was somebody's daughter. I don't know, man.

JASON: I would. You know, as a dad, would I advise.

Hmm. No.

As a human being, would I hope that my daughter or my wife or that I would get up and at least comfort that woman while she's dying on the floor of a train?

Yeah.

I would hope that my daughter, my son, that I would -- and, you know, I have more confidence in my son or daughter or my wife doing something courageous more than I would.

But, you know, I think I have a more realistic picture of myself than anybody else.

And I'm not sure that -- I'm not sure what I would do in that situation. I know what I would hope I would do. But I also know what I fear I would do. But I would have hoped that I would have gotten up and at least tried to help her. You know, help her up off the floor. At least be there with her, as she's seeing her life, you know, spill out in under a minute.

And that's it other thing we have to keep in mind. This all happened so rapidly.

A minute is -- will seem like a very long period of time in that situation. But it's a very short period of time in real life.

STU: Yeah. You watch the video, Glenn. You know, I don't need the video to -- to change my -- my position on this.

But at his seem like there was a -- someone who did get there, eventually, to help, right? I saw someone seemingly trying to put pressure on her neck.

GLENN: Yeah. And tried to give her CPR.

STU: You know, no hope at that point. How long of a time period would you say that was?

Do you know off the top of your head?

GLENN: I don't know. I don't know. I know that we watched the video that I saw. I haven't seen past 30 seconds after she --

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: -- is down. And, you know, for 30 seconds nothing is happening. You know, that is -- that is not a very long period of time.

STU: Right.

GLENN: In reality.

STU: And especially, I saw the pace he was walking. He certainly can't be -- you know, he may have left the actual train car by 30 seconds to a minute. But he wasn't that far away. Like he was still in visual.

He could still turn around and look and see what's going on at that point. So certainly still a threat is my point. He has not, like, left the area. This is not that type of situation.

You know, I -- look, as you point out, I think if I could be super duper sexist for a moment here, sort of my dividing line might just be men and women.

You know, I don't know if it's that a -- you're not supposed to say that, I suppose these days. But, like, there is a difference there. If I'm a man, you know, I would be -- I would want my son to jump in on that, I suppose. I don't know if he could do anything about it. But you would expect at least a grown man to be able to go in there and do something about it. A woman, you know, I don't know.

Maybe I'm -- I hope --

GLENN: Here's the thing I -- here's the thing that I -- that causes me to say, no. You should have jumped in.

And that is, you know, you've already killed one person on the train. So you've proven that you're a killer. And anybody who would have screamed and got up and was with her, she's dying. She's dying. Get him. Get him.

Then the whole train is responsible for stopping that guy. You know. And if you don't stop him, after he's killed one person, if you're not all as members of that train, if you're not stopping him, you know, the person at the side of that girl would be the least likely to be killed. It would be the ones that are standing you up and trying to stop him from getting back to your daughter or your wife or you.

JASON: There was a -- speaking of men and women and their roles in this. There was a video circling social media yesterday. In Sweden. There was a group of officials up on a stage. And one of the main. I think it was health official woman collapses on stage. Completely passes out.

All the men kind of look away. Or I don't know if they're looking away. Or pretending that they didn't know what was going on. There was another woman standing directly behind the woman passed out.

Immediately springs into action. Jumps on top. Grabs her pant leg. Grabs her shoulder. Spins her over and starts providing care.

What did she have that the other guys did not? Or women?

She was a sheepdog. There is a -- this is my issue. And I completely agree with Stu. I completely agree with you. There's some people that do not respond this way. My issue is the proportion of sheepdogs versus people that don't really know how to act. That is diminishing in western society. And American society.

We see it all the time in these critical actions. I mean, circumstances.

There are men and women, and it's actually a meme. That fantasize about hoards of people coming to attack their home and family. And they sit there and say, I've got it. You guys go. I'm staying behind, while I smoke my cigarette and wait for the hoards to come, because I will sacrifice myself. There are men and women that fantasize of block my highway. Go ahead. Block my highway. I'm going to do something about it. They fantasize about someone holding up -- not a liquor store. A convenience store or something. Because they will step in and do something. My issue now is that proportion of sheepdogs in society is disappearing. Just on statistical fact, there should be one within that train car, and there were none.

STU: Yeah. I mean --

JASON: They did not respond.

STU: We see what happens when they do, with Daniel Penny. Our society tries to vilify them and crush their existence. Now, there weren't that many people on that train. Right?

At least on that car. At least it's limited. I only saw three or four people there, there may have been more. I agree with you, though. Like, you see what happens when we actually do have a really recent example of someone doing exactly what Jason wants and what I would want a guy to do. Especially a marine to step up and stop this from happening. And the man was dragged by our legal system to a position where he nearly had to spend the rest of his life in prison.

I mean, I -- it's insanity. Thankfully, they came to their senses on that one.

GLENN: Well, the difference between that one and this one though is that the guy was threatening. This one, he killed somebody.

STU: Yeah. Right. Well, but -- I think -- but it's the opposite way. The debate with Penny, was should he have recognize that had this person might have just been crazy and not done anything?

Maybe. He hadn't actually acted yet. He was just saying things.

GLENN: Yeah. Well --

STU: He didn't wind up stabbing someone. This is a situation where these people have already seen what this man will do to you, even when you don't do anything to try to stop him. So if this woman, who is, again, looks to be an average American woman.

Across the aisle. Steps in and tries to do something. This guy could easily turn around and just make another pile of dead bodies next to the one that already exists.

And, you know, whether that is an optimal solution for our society, I don't know that that's helpful.

In that situation.

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Max Lucado on Overcoming Grief in Dark Times | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 266

Disclaimer: This episode was filmed prior to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But Glenn believes Max's message is needed now more than ever.
The political world is divided, constantly at war with itself. In many ways, our own lives are not much different. Why do we constantly focus on the negative? Why are we in pain? Where is God amid our anxiety and fear? Why can’t we ever seem to change? Pastor Max Lucado has found the solution: Stop thinking like that! It may seem easier said than done, but Max joins Glenn Beck to unpack the three tools he describes in his new book, “Tame Your Thoughts,” that make it easy for us to reset the way we think back to God’s factory settings. In this much-needed conversation, Max and Glenn tackle everything from feeling doubt as a parent to facing unfair hardships to ... UFOs?! Plus, Max shares what he recently got tattooed on his arm.

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Are Demonic Forces to Blame for Charlie Kirk, Minnesota & Charlotte Killings?

This week has seen some of the most heinous actions in recent memory. Glenn has been discussing the growth of evil in our society, and with the assassination of civil rights leader Charlie Kirk, the recent transgender shooter who took the lives of two children at a Catholic school, and the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska, how can we make sense of all this evil? On today's Friday Exclusive, Glenn speaks with BlazeTV host of "Strange Encounters" Rick Burgess to discuss the demon-possessed transgender shooter and the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk. Rick breaks down the reality of demon possession and how individuals wind up possessed. Rick and Glenn also discuss the dangers of the grotesque things we see online and in movies, TV shows, and video games on a daily basis. Rick warns that when we allow our minds to be altered by substances like drugs or alcohol, it opens a door for the enemy to take control. A supernatural war is waging in our society, and it’s a Christian’s job to fight this war. Glenn and Rick remind Christians of what their first citizenship is.