Congress is just days away from another government shutdown and Republicans in the House have yet to come to an agreement among themselves, never mind with the Democrats. Glenn speaks with Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX), who has had enough of the federal bureaucracy that asks for more and more money so it can continue its "war" against the American people. Rep. Roy tells Glenn what he's advising his federal Republicans to do in order to get the government back on track — so it can protect Americans at the border instead of investigating them at home. But will the new Speaker of the House, Rep. Mike Johnson, take a stand or cave to RINOs and Democrats?
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: As the world burns down, what is our speaker of the House doing?
I don't know. Remember, we have the fight to aid Israel. And -- and not Hamas. We have the fight to secure the border.
We have the fight to discover the truth of what our government has really become.
By the way, I misspoke earlier today.
I said that we had all of the videotape from January 6th. It was my understanding, that we were receiving it.
Apparently, that is the word. But the Speaker of the House has not done anything yet.
You know, I'm sure he's very busy, doing stuff that is important. I hope that he is also working on the budget. And we're passing a budget. Otherwise, you know, two weeks, we come up to that. Oh, my gosh.
They're going to shut down the government.
STU: It's good to have optimism for him.
And everything that he will do. However, I know we supposedly will have access to all these tapes, when McCarthy is in. So I can't imagine we won't get them now.
GLENN: Let me get to Chip Roy, who is our congressman from the great state of Texas. Hello, Chip.
CHIP: Hi, Glenn, how are you?
GLENN: Good. How is our new Speaker of the House so far?
CHIP: Mike has been doing a good job. We have two weeks of data.
The first step, first big thing he did, was isolating Israel.
Making sure we pass a standalone, and then using the expansion of the Internal Revenue Service, to take 14 and a half billion dollars out of that pot of money, of 70-something billion sitting there, and use that to pay for Israel.
And, of course, our democratic colleagues are choosing the IRS over Israel.
CHIP: Fortunately, 12 of them didn't. But we have to keep going down that road. That was the right approach by speaker Johnson. You have to encourage that.
And now as we're dealing with the spending issues. The so-called CR debate.
Continuing resolution we will have been to hold the line.
And that's the message we're sending to Mike this week.
That we love them. Love what he did on the IRS and Israel. Now on the spending bills, we need to fight.
GLENN: Yeah. We are -- we are in deep trouble with the spending, as you know.
And the securing of our border.
I mean, nothing is happening there.
Biden said, he was willing to, you know, secure our border.
It shows, he has absolutely no care in the world, for the damage that is being done to our -- on our republic.
CHIP: Well, Glenn, you're 100 percent correct.
And we've talked about this on your show. What's happening is totally indefensible.
And you know that. And I know that. Every American knows that. The number of people who have come in, the amount of fentanyl, the amount of deaths, the amount of danger the Texans are put in.
The impact on our economy.
The $10 billion we have had to spend in Texas, to do the job of the federal government.
So we have to do something about the border.
Now, the current thinking in this town, is that we need to leverage Ukraine in order to force border security.
And the problem is, I'm sure you will agree, that accepts the premise of Ukraine in the first place.
CHIP: So what we're trying to fight through right now, is what debate we need to have, about whether any more money to Ukraine is acceptable or defensible.
And so that's kind of a condition, we have to establish. And so we're trying to force that conversation. Transparency. Where the money will go.
How it's used.
Is it in our national security interests?
And if so, is it enough of that, to then warrant using it, as a kind of, you know, leverage point to force border security.
So here's a hypothetical. We tell the Democrats, look, your whole lives depend apparently on funding in other countries.
So okay. You want to do that.
So let's say, $36 billion over 12 months.
This is a hypothetical, Glenn. I'm not advocating that.
If you do that, and we say 3 billion a month, provided however, there are no releases of any individuals in the United States, period.
And then we will dole out that $3 billion as a way to leverage, and force Biden, who has no interest in following the law.
So we pass HR2. Force him to sign it.
And then we dole out some dollars.
And say, look, we will hold you accountable to this.
And that's a hypothetical that we're discussing. And we might do that. But for me, the question before us right now, we have this funding of government question, coming up.
And I just want to ask you, and the people listening to your show. Do you think that I, as an elected member of Congress. Should agree to continue funding at the Nancy Pelosi spending levels of last December?
CHIP: And keep funding DHS, and keep funding Mayorkas, and keep funding the United Nations, and keep funding Anera, and keep funding the DOJ. Weaponize against the American people.
GLENN: No. No. No.
CHIP: In order to give time for appropriations bills to get negotiated. My answer to that is no.
You have to give me cuts.
You have to give me something, in order to buy more time to pass the appropriations bills. I'm glad we passed seven appropriations bills.
It's better than previous Congresses. But so what. Until they can sign into law changing policies and cutting spending, then --
GLENN: It means nothing.
CHIP: It doesn't do the American people any good.
So for me, I'm not going to vote for any sort of clean CR. And that's what's being floated. And some people in this town are trying to pressure Mike to agree to a clean CR, and I just flatout disagree with it and I will fight it.
GLENN: Yeah. They're -- Chip. Just the interest rate alone at what we are borrowing things at now, continues to go up. We by 2030 or 2033, we'll be able to pay for Social Security and interest.
Alone. Not the light bills.
Not any -- nothing. Just Social Security, what we've promised, and interest. No -- no war machine.
What the hell is wrong with people in Washington.
What do they think is going to happen?
CHIP: A 1 percent increase in interest rates, increases out total interest load about $180 billion.
Think about that, Glenn. And that's what we're doing.
GLENN: Well, I -- I -- I recommend, you have a hard spine here.
I don't think that there is any reason, to not go back to the spending levels of 2019, before the emergencies.
There's no reason. None. None.
Can you give me one?
CHIP: No. Glenn, I'm with you. And so I will give this little bit of grace, because it's important. Mike has been on the job. He's been here two weeks.
He's setting up his team. His first shot out of the gate was a good one. IRS funding for Israel.
I'm trying to help set the stage for the next steps.
And I'm sorry. I'm walking over to the mic. You're getting some echoing in the hallway.
But look, my pressure point here is, you have to change this town.
You give me something that I can sink my teeth into.
For example, fine. You want an extension of the current funding levels in order to buy time to get appropriations bills passed. Okay. But I want the disaster aid that we already passed by continuing resolution -- I mean, by unanimous consent.
Or whatever. When we voted for it, a few weeks ago.
We passed a disaster supplemental. That was unpaid for.
I want to see Israel get that done and paid for. That's $30 billion that we will save.
And I want to see, a serious and concrete path for getting the appropriation bills passed for September.
You give me all that. Now you're in the ZIP code of something I can listen to.
But what about capping the so-called inflation reduction act subsidies that are destroying the American economy?
What about other changes that we should do to force spending down into freeing up the American people to create wealth?
What about border security?
So these are the things I'm raising.
Do not ask me to continue to fund the government, that's killing my people, that are at war with the people I represent. Because I can't do that.
GLENN: So, Chip, I have to throw another log on the fire here. I'm sorry to do this. Because I know you're so bogged down with everything else.
But there's a story that came out yesterday about the FCC. And we've talked to the commissioner of the FCC.
And it is the most far-reaching administrative state power grab in the history of technology. They're passing it next Tuesday. It's all, but done. It will take centrist Republicans to try to convince them to back off on this.
But it's three-two. For the Democrats. In the vote. Next week.
And it gives the administration, total control over everything. All expansion. All infrastructure.
All rates. Everything!
Everything under the FCC, and that happens Tuesday.
CHIP: So this is -- you are right. It's a log on the fire. I can give you about 20 logs on the fire.
Right. Right. No, right now, there are depositions going on for Weisz.
What we're seeing in terms of the Biden situation. Hunter Biden. The family corruption. We can go down the list of things that are happening right now with ATF.
And the exertion of their authority over the American people.
The prohibition of distributing weapons to people around the world, and helping people.
The extent to which -- the FCC, what you're just talking about right there, we've got -- there's a litany of things. Which goes to my point of the paying for -- of us funding a federal bureaucracy, that is at war with the people we represent, Glenn.
That's the question. Look, I said it on the mic in front of Republicans this morning.
I don't talk about private meetings very much.
So I won't say what other people said.
But I will tell you what I said.
Which was, how on earth, can we justify, spending at the current level that is last year's Nancy Pelosi levels. That 17 Republican senators joined with passed.
The rest of us opposed it. We all opposed it violently.
And now we will just vote for it again.
We will vote to perpetuate. You're going to do that for two years. We will spend and fund a DHS that is leaving our border wide open.
An IRS that is expanding, and going after citizens. A DOJ that is weaponizing and going after the American people.
The FCC that we just described. An ATF that is charging the American people. We will fund Anera. Right? Which is funding Palestinians.
Who are at war with the people of Israel. We will fund the United Nations who just voted against Israel, in favor of Hamas?
CHIP: In what universe would we do that?
GLENN: Not in any sane universe.
Chip, go into your meeting.
We'll say a prayer for you, that you are filled with the right words.
And you do no harm, and you can get across to the Speaker. And get him to do the things that -- that he will know he needs to do.
CHIP: Thank you, Glenn. God bless.
GLENN: Thank you. You bet. Buh-bye.