RADIOJanuary 01, 2024

How Christians should respond to PERSECUTION from Biden AND their own Church

Under the Biden administration, traditionalist Catholics and conservative Christians of all kinds have increasingly become targets of the government. And some churches themselves are also starting to turn on traditionalist Christians. So, how should people of faith respond to this increase in persecution from outside AND within the Church? Glenn speaks with former presidential speechwriters Alex Torres and Joshua Charles, who have co-authored a new book, "Persecuted from Within." They argue that modern-day Christians should learn from those who came before them. And they also discuss the recent removal of Catholic Bishop Joseph Strickland by the Pope and how bizarre it is that Joe Biden — our second Catholic president — is targeting Catholics.

Transcript

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GLENN: Well, let me say hello to a couple of people. Alec Torres. He was the former speechwriter for President Trump, and my good friend and former co-author Joshua Charles. He's also a former White House speechwriter. And he is the coauthor of Original Argument. The Federalist case for the Constitution.

Adapted for the 20th century, which is something we put out. I don't even know.

Joshua, how long was that? 2008, '9?

JOSHUA: 2011. That was over 10 years ago, Glenn. Thank you for the opportunity, did a lot of things. Thank you.

GLENN: No, you're extraordinarily talented.

So, guys, tell me. And I guess, Alec, if you want to start, tell me about Persecuted From Within.

ALEC: Persecuted From Within is a book that is really rooted in something that Josh and I were noticing. That if you are good, faithful, traditional Catholic. Just good, faithful, traditional Christians.

All around you, people are -- you're under attack.

People don't like you.

The state doesn't like you.

And, frankly, we saw in our own church. A lot of people in our own church don't like us.

And they're trying to crush us.

So we wanted to know how to respond to that. We wanted to figure out, how do you act as a Christian. A good person of faith, in response to institutions that you love, persecuting you.

And we thought of a better way to do that, than to look at great historical figures. Really, monumental Christians from the past, who had to live under pretty terrible circumstances.

Frankly, circumstances, that are oftentimes worse than our own. And learn the lesson straight from them.

GLENN: You cover one of my favorite guys.

Fulton sheen. The archbishop from New York. Who I didn't know about, growing up.

I found out about it, probably in 2008.

And I think he was one of the greatest guys ever.

I don't think of him as persecuted.

But he's a part of the book. How do you look at him?

And what did you learn from him?

ALEC: Well, he was persecuted in a way that was a little hidden. What happened with him. It was his cardinal at the time.

It was -- this is an interpersonal dispute. Bishop Sheen was in charge of distributing charity to the poor. And Stulman gave him a bunch of things from the government to distribute to the poor. And when Stulman asked Sheen to pay for it, Sheen said no.

So you think that's a small matter.

But it actually made the cardinals livid against Sheen.

And he found revenge, moved him out of his position. Cut him off from his TV program. And sent him off to work at Rochester, where he was totally ill suited for his role. He had to do it. Because it was his boss essentially.

He was under the cardinal. He looked at this great figure.

Media personalities.

Invited to these big events at New York.

And, boom, pretty much a failure, when he was sent over to Rochester.

All because he refused to take money from the poor.

And give it to his boss.

GLENN: Joshua, you're having this persecution.

A lot of people are questioning the way their churches are behaving.

Because we're in a time of great change. And I think most of our churches have gotten fat and sassy.

And are too timid to take on the real gospel truth. And how it applies to our lives.

A lot of people and a lot of faiths are having this problem.

In the Catholic Church, you just had something up heard of happen here in Texas.

Where the pope got involved, and kicked somebody out.

VOICE: Yeah. Bishop Strickland, who is a friend of mine. Right before COVID, I was able to spend some time with Bishop Strictland, in what we Catholics call a Eucharistic adoration. Where we pray for what we believe is the body, blood, and soul of our Lord, our Eucharist.

And we did that for what's called a holy hour. And I will say, the bishop is the real deal. We went from dinner.

He wears his garments everywhere he goes. He's a humble, shepherd of the Lord. And I think in his reaction to the situation, we see how many of the things that Alec and I write about in this book, reacted. And we cover about 2000 years' worth of saints.

And Bishop Strictland has asked Catholics, he's asked them to pray for Pope Francis. He's asked them to not engage in reviling. But he's also spoken the truth, about some of the issues, that are going on in the church.

And, frankly, that's the sort of behavior that many of the saints engaged in, in this book.

One that comes to mind is St. Athanasius, who was the great bishop of Alexandria. He was reviled and booted from his dioceses, multiple times. He was exiled five times through Alexandria. There was one time, some soldiers coming to pick him up, that were being sent by the emperor, who was coordinating with some Aryan bishops. And he just barely made it out.

He basically covered his face. And went through a crowd and escaped. So there were some pretty harrowing stories.

And Athanasius, the phrase was (another language), Athanasius against the world.

And he found support in Rome, and in other parts of the world, particularly in the West.

But he stood firmly for the truth, unwaveringly. But to do so, he had to experience persecution within the family, as we say.

And that's one of the great lessons of these things, is that to follow Jesus, Jesus says we must take up our cross, and the cross includes not only being on a path from external enemies -- you know, pagans and heathens, and what not. But from members of the family, so to speak, within the church as well. As Jesus himself was. From Judas, to the denial of Peter. And many of the problems the apostles addressed in the early church. There's all sorts of issues, those issues have never changed.

But many of these great saints face, as Alex mentioned, challenges that many of us couldn't even imagine. I think we're in a very trying time period, don't get me wrong.

But many of. You know, Joan of arc, for example. She's covered in this book. She was a lay woman, and she was killed.

She was unjustly brought to a trial. Her canonical rights to appeal to the Pope, for example, were denied. And as a result, she was executed. But she went to her execution, faithful, praying to God.
And she remained a Catholic.

And so, you know, that's the great story of these saints. Is that they do things that are quite literally, otherworldly.

And I think that's what is so inspiring. Either the Christianity thing is a complete fraud, or it's otherworldly.

And it actually gives its followers something that they could never give themselves. That's this peace. And the fortitude in the face of extraordinary persecution.

And the same, by engaging in this. By suffering in it.

They find the humility that ultimately takes us to heaven, frankly.

GLENN: I was just talking to Megyn Kelly.

And, you know, I don't just -- I could be wrong.

But I don't think that you guys wrote this, because of the persecution that's going on right now.

I have a feeling that you're thinking, that it's going to get much, much worse.

I could be wrong. And I would love to hear your opinion on it.

VOICE: I think so, yeah.

VOICE: Yeah, definitely.

GLENN: So Megyn and I were talking about what's coming. They put Donald Trump in Jail, or whatever.

There is a -- there is going to be a moment, where people have had enough.

And when that happens, persecution and the government will just come down hard.

So what is the -- what is the -- the things that we can pull from your book, that tells us what to do. And what not to do.

VOICE: I think in -- when we're facing -- you know, a lot of institutions turning against us, perhaps most terrifyingly our government in America. Because the amount of power it has. We've seen attacks by religious people, especially Catholics.

Even in the last few weeks, frankly.

It's holding on to truth. Especially the truth of our faith, matters more than anything else.

That gives strength, that can overcome any of these difficulties.

When other people are crumbling or being manipulated, or fallen to the wayside, it's our faith that allows us to be able to get through, even great difficulties and circumstances, we really never had to experience in our generations. And make it through in the end.

Time and time again, when it looked like their circumstance -- they themselves were imprisoned or martyred or, you know, shut up and away from the public fear. Would have their rights to speak, their liberties taken away from them.

They really did cling to their faith.

And God saw them through.

That's what is so wonderful about these stories.

You think looking at the history of persecution as great Christians would be a depressing subject.

But in a way, it's actually quite inspiring.

Seeing, their strength and how we can imitate that. And you can see how God is always with his people. When you're faithful to God, God is faithful in greater abundance, than we ever could imagine.

GLENN: What do you guys think we're facing? Especially as Catholics. You guys are -- we have a Catholic president. Only the second time in history.

The last time we had one, and the first one was JFK.

And now, we have a -- a Catholic president, who seems to be going after the Catholics. It's bizarre.

VOICE: Well, Glenn, this is a topic I've been pondering for really since COVID. I came into the Catholic Church in July 2019. And then so my first Easter was in 2020. And, you know, we -- we know that was a somewhat eventful year. And masses around the world were canceled for Easter. And what I discovered in the church fathers and in many of these great saints. Is this articulation, that I said before, that persecution comes not only from the outside, but from within.

And as we all know, those of us who have any family issues, which I'm sure all of us.

That's the hardest thing to deal with.

That's exactly what the saints dealt with. And, frankly, President Biden. I hope he repents.

I hope he comes back to a faith. He's clearly violating it.

And, frankly, we have many shepherds who aren't calling him on it.

And they will be held to a very high standard. On the day of justice.

We Catholics believe that every single one of us, wants to answer what we did, and what we failed to do, to Jesus Christ on the day of judgment.

And the people who have the highest standard for behavior, will be bishops, will be priests, and will be the pope.

And the pope has to go to confession.

The bishops have to go to confession. And to the extent, that they failed to amend their conduct before they died, they will have to answer to the biggest boss.

And so -- but what we saw with all these saints, is that the subtitle of the book is called how the saints endured crises in the church.

And I will say, that there is this idea that there's this Judas element within the church. Throughout its entire history.

Throughout its entire history.

It can't go away.

It will be resolved. But when Jesus comes back.

Jesus warned about it. The apostles warned about it.

Some have called it the antichurch.

And it's basically the dark side of the church.

And these saints exhibit an astounding level of humility, when they're faced with this kind of persecution.

So, for example, I joked with some of my White House colleagues. That the thing that sucks about being Catholic. Is we can't complain about suffering.

What I meant, there's this idea of the Catholic faith, of redemptive suffering. The idea is that through his cross. Prior to the Lord's cross and his death and resurrection. Suffering was basically meaningless. It was futile.

It was the affect of the fall. And what not. But after the cross. Every single human being, if they follow Christ, can join their suffering, and it becomes fruitful. It becomes fruitful for the salvation of others.

It becomes fruitful for the salvation of their own soul.

So it's futile and meaningless, which suffering oftentimes feels like.

Through Christ and his suffering, becomes meaningful.

And that's what so many of these things show. Stephen Colbert, I don't think he's the most -- the paradigm of the orthodox Catholic, per se.

But he has a beautiful line in an interview with Anderson Cooper, where Anderson Cooper was mentioning all these horrible tragedies that happened to him. And he basically said, how did you get through it?

And Stephen Colbert basically said, in the Catholic faith, God does it too. And that's essentially what you see in the lives of all these saints with affirmations. And St. Thomas Moore.

They were laymen. They were priests. They were bishops. They were monks and nuns.

They come from all sorts of walks of life. Sometimes they're having to criticize popes.

Sometimes they are having to be persecuted by their bishops or their cardinals, that Alex talked about.

Sometimes, they're literally being executed.

Or like Joan of Arc, or they're being exiled from diocese and on the run, like St. Appearnatius.

So they're dealing with all these things, but they know that they can join their sufferings to Christ. And these things. To say, we believe are in Heaven, praying for all of us. Reaping that the most possible fruit that human beings can ever reap, for the salvation of the world. And that's what their suffering did, by joining into Christ.

GLENN: Joshua, thank you so much.

Alex, the same.

The name of the book is Persecuted From Within. Written for Catholics. But I don't think it's probably just for Catholics.

It is for everybody. And I think we all need to look at how we are going to behave, in times of persecution.

Because I do believe it is coming. Again, persecuted from within.

Thank you so much, guys, God bless.

THE GLENN BECK PODCAST

Epstein's Former Lawyer REVEALS The Inside Deal that was Made

Glenn Beck sits down with Alan Dershowitz, Jeffrey Epstein’s former lawyer, to dive into the explosive controversy surrounding the Epstein list and the unanswered questions the public still demands. Dershowitz reveals why the narrative around Epstein has been twisted, why there may never be a “client list” as people imagine, and why he believes every single document must be released. From shocking accusations, false claims, and media manipulation to the deeper truth about who knew what, this conversation pulls no punches. Is the public finally ready to see everything?

Watch Glenn Beck's FULL Interview with Alan Dershowitz HERE

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Glenn Beck and Max Lucado discuss end times

Glenn Beck sits down with pastor and author Max Lucado to break down the shocking signs of prophecy that seem to be unfolding right before our eyes. From global deception, political turmoil, and persecution of Christians to the rise of immorality and cultural chaos, the warnings Jesus gave in the Olivet Discourse sound eerily similar to today’s headlines. Max Lucado explains the “super sign” that marks the beginning of the end, why the darkness seems to be growing stronger, and how believers should respond with faith and hope rather than fear. This is a sobering yet encouraging reminder to stay awake, stay faithful, and recognize the times in which we live.

Watch Glenn Beck's FULL Interview with Max Lucado HERE

Mother admits she prefers AI over her DAUGHTER?!

Glenn Beck gives his thoughts on a story he read where an older mother admitted to liking her AI “companion” more than her daughter: “My first thought was, ‘we can’t do this! We’re going to lose our humanity'…and then as I was thinking about this, I thought, ‘maybe we have already lost our humanity…’”

Transcript

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GLENN: So I read this story from CBS News, a couple of days ago. And I -- I jotted down some thoughts, that I want to share with you.

But I honestly, up until this morning. I didn't know if I was going to share these thoughts with you. Because I don't know.

I'm in this really unique place right now. Where I -- start. Here's my first thought on this.

My first thought on this was, she found a new companion. You know who the new companion is? AI? AI. She spends, I spend five hours a day with my new companion, and we play games. We do trivia. We just talk. And I like her more than my daughter.

Wow!

So my first thought was, this has got to stop. We can't -- we can't do this. We cannot allow -- we're losing our humanity. That's what -- we are going to lose our humanity!

And then as I was thinking about this, and what I wanted to share with you, I thought, gosh. Maybe we've already lost our humanity. In a different way. In a different way. And then I just started going down this rabbit hole about me. You know, who are you to say any of this stuff?

I'm in a weird prays right now. It's a good place. But it's a weird place.

You know, this isn't ideal that she's found a companion.

And I want to say, we have to stop this.

But then, what do you replace it with?

Then we just have this old woman at home, by herself, rotting away, not talking to anybody?

Have we lost our humanity? My thought was, what have I done to exercise my humanity? Instead of just getting on the radio and just going, blah, blah. You know what you should do? You know what we should do? And then not doing any of it.

What am I actually doing to close the distance between knowing and doing?

Very little. Very little.

Because we do know. We know what the intellectually, spiritually, we know exactly what we should do. We know what Jesus would do. What would Jesus do?

He would stop. He would notice the old lady. He would sit down. He would eat with her. He would chat with her. He would spend time. He touched the untouchable. He didn't outsource compassion.

He didn't like, you know what. Yeah. She's -- let her have the AI thing.

He wouldn't have done that. He made room.

And so I started thinking, and this is why I didn't want to share this necessarily with you. Because, I mean, I don't know if you can relate to this.

But why don't we do this all the time.

Because, really in the end, this is the kind of stuff -- this is the only stuff that matters. This is the only stuff that matters.

Human connection.

And I am so bad at that, in many ways. Look, my best friend, has always been this. I started this, when I was 13 years old. And I could tell, this, anything. And it never rejected me.

And it became my best friend. But in that, my relationship is with this. Which, in a way, turned into a relationship with you. When I was a kid, I was just in a room by myself. And I was just yapping.

But now, I feel like, I know you.

But I get so -- I just -- I -- I don't know.

Sometimes, if you ever feel like there's a hole, in you.

That you're missing something. That you're like, I think I'm missing a piece. That other people have, you know what I mean? Because at times, there is something that keeps us from doing the most human things. And I think part of that is fear. And this is something that goes not just to the elderly, but it goes to you, and it also goes to our kids. Look, why are we -- why are we embracing fake AI friends, and talking to them, and everything else? Why are our kids on social media?

Because real face-to-face stuff, real kindness, is really risky.

It's really risky. If I step into your loneliness, it means, I have to feel my own loneliness.

You know.

Give me a sec.

Hey, how are you? You don't really want an answer. You don't want an answer. So we all say the same thing: Fine. I'm pretty good.

You're not. You're not really fine. You're not pretty good. You might be having a great day. You might be having a horrible day. But you'll say, fine. Pretty good.

And you're doing it out of a courtesy. Because you know when you ask the question, you don't want somebody to say, you know. I'm really struggling right now.

Because then you're like, oh, dear God. I've got to stop my day and sit down and talk to you. I didn't really want to know.

I -- I don't have time for this. You know what I mean?

We -- we stop being human, and we just play this little game. Because I don't want to have to rearrange my afternoon. I'm really busy.

So we -- we keep that risk, at arm's length.

And now we're eliminating it!

Because AI is always fine.

Machines never cry. They never ask for a ride to the doctor, or to the airport.

You don't have to sit with them, after -- you know, I'm waiting for some test results to come in. Would you sit with had he.

No. It doesn't have to.

It will sit with you, because it has nothing else to do.

It's part of -- we bury this human part of us, because of convenience. And it's weird.

Because our economy makes everything easy. Except, all the things that actually matter. Because I don't know if you can make those easy.

You know, we can get groceries, in an hour.

Get them delivered. I used to saw somebody -- is it Walmart or Costco? Somebody is delivering things by drone now.

Just dropping it in your backyard. I mean, wow. I mean, you can get anything. Movies in seconds. Opinions in a second. But friendships? Actual friendships? They're slow!

They're in inefficient. They're messy.

It's -- it happens in the blank space between the calendar blocks. The -- the spaces that we're -- we all have learned to hate, I guess.

We've optimized our life, to the point where love and -- falling in love, all that. Is like a bug in the system. And part of it is habit as well.

Fear and habit. I mean, our kids know, the non-stop playing on the gaming. The endless scroll, it's just hallowing out inside. They know that. They know.

But the loop is sticky. It was geared to be sticky. The short hit of engagement, you know.
Beats the slow growth of a relationship.

And I think we're all becoming experts at something that we should just at least notice. And that is, we are all experts at almost connecting.
I'm almost connected. How are you?
I'm not having a good day.

Is there anything I can do?

No. Okay. I'm almost connected.

The other part is pain. That stops us from being human, I think.

I mean, I'm a recovering alcoholic. And, boy, I know this one.

I know the hard truth.

We will not change. We can be in pain. But we will not change, until the pain becomes absolutely unbearable!

I went to -- I went to a store, to look at a bike the other day. And I sent a picture of this bike to my wife, and she said, I don't know who has my husband's phone.

But where is he?

Because I'm not going to do that -- I'm not going to -- I'm not riding a bike. I'm not riding a bike. God wouldn't let us invent cars. Okay?

The bikes.

She came home one day. And I was swimming in the pool. She was like, what is happening to you?

And I'm like, my back is killing me so bad. I've got to exercise.

Okay!

Well, that's -- at 61, that's a genius move.

Finally!

Until the pain becomes unbearable, until the comfort of staying the same is more painful than the cost of change, we don't do it.

You know, real question on AI is: With AI, will we -- will we feel the real pain that it is going to cause humanity soon enough, to change?

Or does the machine just soften the edges, just enough, that we just adapt downward? You know, just -- they're lowering the temperature, a few degrees at a time.

You never notice the temperature drop. It's just slowly.

That's the danger. That's the real danger.

Not that a chat bot runs your life.

But it -- it makes a diminished life, tolerable.

It's an anesthesia. Let's just sleep a little bit.

An imitation of companionship. That never asks for anything in return.

And never interrupts.

You know, she probably likes it more than her daughters. Because her daughter probably has edges, she doesn't like. The AI will get rid of all those edges.

And if we're not careful, the lonely will not just be alone.

They'll be alone with an elegant coping mechanism.

So, yeah. I -- I want -- I want to warn the line of humanity being blurred.

I'm going to argue.

And you'll hear a lot of this.

Personhood. Personhood is really critical, that we pay attention to this.

Presence.

Really important.
But that's only really half of the sermon, given by the man that's least qualified to preach to you. The other -- the other half is -- is a question.

Challenging the Founding Fathers: The Left's TERRIBLE vision for America

The New York Times recently published an op-ed titled, “Abolish the Senate. End the Electoral College. Pack the Court.” This article calls for “a new Constitution” that would change the very fabric of the Founding Fathers’ vision for America, akin to how the 1619 Project tried to rewrite America’s history. Glenn Beck explains how our governmental system works and why it’s a much better option than direct democracy.

Transcript

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GLENN: All right. This is such an amazing story. That is coming now, from the left. And the New York Times. On let's -- let's change the Constitution.

Let's change. You want to give me a quick. I just lost the story. Can you give me a quick update on this one?

JASON: The title of this. Well, kind of like you hinted. Speaks for itself.

The title is this: Abolish the Senate in the electoral college, and pack the court. It's a discussion on what -- I mean, it's almost like they're doing a 1619 Project.

GLENN: No.

STU: But instead of focusing on that, now they're trying to change the history of why the Founders created our government the way they did.

And it's a complete abomination. I mean, the Founders pretty much saw government as an evil. A necessary evil. But they did everything in their power to limit it as much as they could.

Now, this -- this article, this opinion.

Whatever it is. Seems to argue, exactly the opposite.

What's really amazing to me, they actually have the balls, to mention things like the Federalist papers.

And then turn around and then title this thing, in the electoral college.

I mean, it's argued specifically, not only the need for an electoral college.

But why!

GLENN: So you know, what's amazing to me, they make several points in this article, where they are like -- the electoral college.

Trying to say, it's only a democracy, if we have no electoral college.

Well, we're not -- we're not a democracy.

We are a republic.

And democracies fail every single time.

There is no such thing as a true democracy.

Where everybody is voting on every -- you know, on every item.

They fail every time!

You have a democracy. And the reason why the left likes it.

Is because you can convince. Look at New York.

You can convince people of something like communism. And then that's the last election, that you will have, in country after country. That's what happens.

The people are voting -- you know, they vote in. And they're like, you know what, this is the answer to all of our problems.

This is the answer to cancer.

And then you don't have another vote again. You don't -- you don't have it.

You don't have the republic. First of all, you can't vote on every single thing!

You can't.

Because you don't know all the ins and outs of everything.

So you have to elect somebody, that is as close to you, as possible.

And you elect them, first, in the House.

Of representatives.

The House of Representatives. The reason why there's only a two-year term on those guys, is because that's the closest to you. The Congress is the one that is supposed to control the purse strings.

But that's not try anymore.

You want to know why our spending is out of control?

Because Congress no longer does its job.

Congress no longer controls the purse strings.

So they've given that up, because they haven't done a budget or anything else. And nobody is holding anybody responsible for the spending. What you're supposed to do is every two years, when they get out of control on spending, you can vote them out with, and say, nope. Don't want any of that. It's the closest to the people. That's why they have to run every two years.

Then the Senate, which the progressives have already changed, and he makes a case in here, again, in the New York Times' editorial, that we're not -- we haven't done enough to the Senate. In 1913, the -- the progressives, under Wilson, they decide, they're going to change the Senate from the way it was originally, in the Constitution.

The way the Founders did it, was remember, they want the people.

But they also were really concerned about the federal government.

So they wanted the states to make sure the states were represented.

So no -- everyone knew that no -- Texas is not going to vote for something, because New York wants it, and it's not good for Texas.

If Texans are elected by the state, they only represent the state. Right now, you have Chuck Schumer. Why does he raise money in California?

Why does he -- why are these people running around, even on our side, all around the country? Why do we care? Here's why we care: Because they no longer represent the state. It's just another higher level, I guess, of Congress.

We already have that body. Now we're supposed to have something that protects the individual states.

Well, the progressives didn't like that.

Because they need a democracy.

And they want an all-powerful federal government. And so, they abolish that from the Constitution. And the 17th amendment changed the way that we vote for senators.

So they've already screwed it up once. This is what progressives always do. They'll fix health care. And then they'll say, and it's so broken. Now it's even worse. So let's fix it again.

No, you guys should be left out of it. Okay?

You guys should not be fixing anything. Because you don't know your butt from your elbow. So they're already changing that. Now they're saying, that that has to be changed even more. Because it's not representative.

Well, no. Because it's supposed to equalize.

The reason why we have 400 -- what is it? 434 representative, it's more than that now. That number changes, as our population grows.

So the population grows. You get in your area, you'll get more Congress people. Because it represents the people.

The Senate only has two senators, from Delaware, or California.

And this article is saying, that's not fair. Because there's more people in California, than there are in Delaware.

Well, if you do that, then you completely erase the states. Then Delaware, Wyoming, Idaho.

All of these other states that have small populations, the only ones that matter, will be California, Texas, New York, Florida.

That's it. They'll make all the decisions. Now, you in Nebraska, do you want New York and California and even Texas, making all the decisions for you?

Of course not.

Of course not.

That's why the Senate has two senators.

Not 50 senators for California.

Two, the same as your state. They've already undercut the -- the state power, one time.
Now they want to cut it, completely! And make it into another representative body of the people.

That's not what it was for. They knew that Congress would react quickly. The House of representatives would be so connected to the people, that they would act quickly.

And they could do really stupid things, because when there's a panic, these elected officials want to move, because their constituents are yelling at them!

And it wouldn't necessarily be the right thing. So they wanted to balance that, with the state power!

The state, those senators, were elected by the legislators, in that state.

Which I don't love!

But it might bring things back into play, where we don't care about Chuck Schumer anymore.

Unless you live in New York.

You only care about your senator!

Because they were the balance, from the public saying, we've got to put the Patriot Act in!

No.

The Senate should be able to say, no. That takes power away from the states, and gives an all-consuming federal government, all kinds of power to them. No! And then when those two houses, both the state, and the peoples living in the states, could agree, then it goes to the president. And the president is only supposed to veto when he feels it's unconstitutional.

Not because he doesn't like it. Not because his party tells him. But because it's unconstitutional. You don't have the power to do that. However, Congress can say, Mr. President, I'm sorry. You're wrong. And they can with, three-fourths, they can vote again and pass it in the House, with three-fourths.

Or they can take it to the Supreme Court.

And the Supreme Court is only supposed to decide whether it's constitutional.

Look at the damage that the left and the progressives have done, to this system.

It was brilliant. The powers in the House, with the people. The power -- they always say, when there's a problem: Follow the money, right?

The money is the power. So they've taken that power, to create laws, and given it to the executive branch, the presidential branch. They stopped doing passing a budget. We haven't had a budget since George Bush. They stopped passing a budget.

So they have no real power left in them, anymore. Then they gutted the state, with the -- the Senate. And then, they made the president, they made him into the -- the veto power into whatever his party says.

They've completely revamped this thing.

Already!

And it's not working. Why?

Because they've bastardized it.

If the president -- they can't get it done in the House. They can't get it done in the Senate. And have and they can't get it done by the president.

Then they've expanded the power of the Supreme Court.

And now the Supreme Court can legislate from the bench.

They can say, well, you know what, I think what they meant was this!

No. That's not your job.

That's not your job.

Your job is to say, this is constitutional. This is not constitutional.

To give you an idea of how weak the Supreme Court was supposed to be, when the designers of the Capitol put together the three branches of government, they -- they didn't include a space for the Supreme Court.

You know where the Supreme Court, until FDR.

The Supreme Court used to meet in the basement of the Capitol! They didn't have any space. They had the basement of the Capitol.

But FDR wanted to make sure that the Supreme Court could rule the country. And if he couldn't get it passed in the House and the Senate, he'd get it through the Supreme Court. That's why he put them on a pedestal. And that's why he tried, exactly what this article is saying, to do. Pack the Supreme Court!

What does that mean? That means: What we're going to do here is, we're just going to load up on Supreme Court justices. We have nine Supreme Court justices. That's not in the Constitution.

You can have seven. You can have 12. It's not in the Constitution.

But our tradition is, there has been nine Supreme Court justices.

So we all accept that. When you start -- imagine, lefties, how would you feel if Donald Trump said, we're going to pack the Supreme Court? I'm going to add five more Supreme Court justices right now.

What would you do? What would you do? You would lose your mind!

Why? Because you know he would pack it with the people that would just agree with him!

That's not what the Supreme Court is supposed to do.

That's why, if Donald Trump said he was going to pack the Supreme Court, I would be against it, and I would be a leading opposition voice of Donald Trump, on that. If that's what he wanted to do.

But you're suggesting that, as something that would be good for the country.

It would not be good for the country!

And, by the way, once you have packed the Supreme Court, you get up -- there's some countries that have 47 Supreme Court justices.

They just keep putting them in. Until they can absolutely control it.

Once you pack a Supreme Court, you destroy the country.

That is the last gasp of a republic. Or of a country.

You pack the Supreme Court.

So they've changed absolutely everything. And in this op-ed, he's also suggesting, that, you know. Another thing we should do is we should just add states.

Let me just add states.

We'll just keep adding states. Again, packing the Senate. What? What? When you say, we want to -- what is the thing, they want to reimagine America? Refound America.

You're not refounding it. You're working on something completely different. That's not America.

JASON: Yeah, the other headline on the main headline is why the left can't win.

I'm adding my own ellipses here. Dot, dot, dot, without a new Constitution. That's how radically they're thinking on this. Just insane.

GLENN: I mean, it -- but it's true!

They don't like the outcome. They don't like the fact that they almost had us. They almost had us. They have -- they have taken and twisted education. They took and twisted the media. They made the -- all -- just groups that are marching at their orders.

Teaching, and using propaganda. And brainwashing techniques. To teach these twisted views. And then reinforce them in the media.

They had that. It wasn't enough!

Before, they had music. They had the movies.

It wasn't enough.

They just keep gobbling and gobbling and gobbling.

And the reason why they're out at this point, is because we're on to them.

They figured it out. The people will always -- you know, we -- we will always be late, but we'll always figure it out. And then we'll do the right thing.

They're trying to take away all of the escape doors. All of the exit doors. They're trying to lock them all down, so you can't get out of this nightmare hell house, that they're building for us.