For years, Glenn has been exposing the things that didn’t add up about COVID-19: If it DIDN’T come from a lab, why is there so much evidence pointing to a coverup? Why was Dr. Fauci so insistent that anyone who mentioned gain-of-function research — including Senator Rand Paul — was a liar? Well, BlazeTV host and “Free The People” president Matt Kibbe did a deep dive into the latest evidence that FAUCI was the liar, and what he found was shocking. He lays out the truth in his new docuseries, “The Coverup,” available NOW for BlazeTV subscribers. And he joins Glenn to review some of the most shocking revelations, including why he believes we’ve been looking in the wrong places: Those who facilitated the coverup didn’t work for the NIH or CDC. They worked for the DHS, FBI, and Intelligence Community…
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GLENN: What we knew, by piecing things together, without -- without really anyone releasing documents. Listen.
And this is why it's a cover-up. We know that US taxpayer dollars were going to Wuhan China through EcoHealth. So here we have a virology expert that claimed the consensus among their peers was that COVID was not natural. Part of his research was done via funding from the US government to Peter Daszak, an EcoHealth Alliance, directly to Dr. Xi in China.
He responds with, quote, I spent New Year's Eve, talking with our China contacts.
I've got a lot more information.
But it's all off the record. All find the genome inconsistent with expectations from an evolutionary theory. That means, this was lab made. Two days prior, he said, COVID looked like it was manipulated in a lab.
These are the conversations people like Fauci were having in private. Meanwhile, in public. They were denying everything and diverting attention. The dangerous sentences that were redacted. And that, quote, there was a suspicion, that this mutation was intentionally inserted.
Wait. What?
GLENN: If scientists and idealists spoke out about any of this, they were silenced immediately.
We were demonetized for a very long time, because this network would not play the game. There was too many things wrong. In 2021, I did a special. Just connecting the dots. There is one man, and I think he deserves an awful lot of credit. Rand Paul.
Who was like a dog with a bone. Being a doctor, and a senator, he didn't have to play those games.
And he knew Fauci was lying. Now, with Matt Kibbe, something -- some people are going to pay. Matt Kibbe is a Blaze TV host of Kibbe on Liberty. He's also the president of Free the People, who we have partnered with to air tonight's documentary.
All about the cover-up, as it comes crumbling down.
My friend Matt Kibbe, how are you?
MATT: I feel like we've been working up to this moment for years now.
GLENN: We have. And nobody thinks anybody is going to pay. But I actually believe, because of what you're going to start showing tonight, and with Rand Paul, there's no -- it's going to happen.
MATT: You know, you were right to -- your special in 2021, was one of the -- the triggers that my wife would tell you, that you've made her life insufferable.
Because I'm just obsessed about this stuff.
GLENN: I know, right!
MATT: And I've been obsessed for four-plus years. And I started off just having sort of a Libertarian instinct that these authoritarian measures just didn't make sense. And they were going to create so much collateral damage.
But when you start going down the rabbit hole, you peel away the layers of the onion. And it's something so much bigger than me.
As a cynical Libertarian and always expects government to screw up, but now. Now I'm seeing this big thing.
And I don't have a chalkboard. But I have one of those -- those crazy equivalent things where you used yarn to draw one line to another.
GLENN: Right. Right.
MATT: And that was really the -- a lot of inspirations for the series. A lot of conversations I've had both on camera and off with Rand Paul, who also was a dog with a bone. That just wouldn't let Fauci get away with it. I mean, he's a doctor.
So he instinctually could understand the claims, just didn't make sense.
Me as an economist, I'm way outside of my lane now.
We all had to be epidemiologists, right?
GLENN: Well, the one thing we had in common. You and I, at least. Because you're an economist.
I'm just an alcoholic DJ that just found himself here. But the one thing we had in common was, it doesn't make sense.
And when it doesn't make sense, you can either sit in your little hole, and dream up, you know, conspiracies. Or you can start digging and looking for the facts. And, Matt, I had -- at the time, you know this because you watched it.
At the time, I had just enough of their conversations, and enough of, wait a minute. This guy went into the meeting. These two. Went into the meeting.
And they changed their mind. And they were hard-core. Why did they change their mind?
Wait a minute. This email redacted. Looks as though Fauci and Daszak are -- are colluding to change the narrative. And they know what's going on.
Now you have the goods. Tell me what you have found. And what is now available.
MATT: So, I mean, and it's been some pretty banner couple of weeks on this stuff.
GLENN: Yeah.
MATT: Because a lot of Fauci's deputies are starting to talk.
GLENN: I think they know there is trouble coming.
MATT: Right. They know that trouble is coming.
So now we have a former NIH director. Announce, in testimony. That, of course, we were doing gain-of-function research.
GLENN: Jeez.
MATT: So pretty much a smoking gun. Where Fauci is constantly calling Senator Paul.
GLENN: A liar.
MATT: The oversight. The responsibility. The constitutional responsibility.
You have mid-level bureaucrat calling him a liar. I'm like, okay. There's something there. So you just start to unweave these things. And the scary thing about it. This series is trying to be open-minded about how far we're going to go.
But this is a story much bigger than simply rogue bureaucrats chasing money and power.
It's much bigger than even sort of arrogant scientists saying, I can redesign these viruses, and not cause anything else.
GLENN: Yeah. More powerful than God or nature.
MATT: You're just peeling it back. And this is what Jay bat charry told me in the first episode. This wasn't a health response. It certainly wasn't a scientific response. It probably is a national security response. And why are they even involved?
GLENN: Wait. What do you mean by that?
It's a national security response.
MATT: I mean that the actors, and we still don't know who they are all are.
Don't work at NIH. They don't work at the CDC. They work in the alphabet agencies, starting with Homeland Security.
GLENN: So -- fill me in on that. Because I didn't see that coming. I thought we were going to go to the Pentagon. Tell me about Homeland Security.
MATT: Well, the FBI, they use words that don't explicitly say CIA. It's funny.
GLENN: Really? The CIA wouldn't be clear on something?
MATT: You slipped up and -- earlier and said, 2001, instead of 2021, which was a Freudian slip. Because I think this story goes back to the response to anthrax. And the response to the War on Terror. And a bipartisan obsession with bio terrorism.
Both Cheney and the Bush White House.
Joe Biden. A guy you may have heard of before.
GLENN: Yeah. And he, occasionally has heard that word before.
I know that name for some reason.
MATT: I don't know if you would recognize that. But we are discovering, I believe, and uncovering a mad scientist experiment, driven by the security agencies, to come up with these grandiose, mad science experiment, where we're going to imagine what our enemies might do to us. We are going to harvest those viruses. We're going to manipulate them.
And then we're going to come up with the solution to everything.
GLENN: Okay. So wait.
People don't understand. Congress has to do something. No!
The Constitution is meant to slow people down because something happens, we've got to act now.
No!
But can you give anyone, at that time, if that's when you believe that starts, the benefit of the doubt, that they honestly thought they were maybe could go the right thing.
MATT: Oh, I think we should still assume, that arrogance, and misguided people. With too much power.
And too much belief, that they're smart enough tolerance such wild and crazy things.
Were explicitly trying to come up a response to some bio security threat.
Remember, anthrax was a scare.
And we must know who did it, or why they did it. And we probably still don't know who or why.
But they were saying, we need a response.
What if our worst enemies come up with a deadly virus and destroy us?
GLENN: Yes.
MATT: You have to ask how we ended up in China, building dangerous viruses. But I think, and I think Jay Bhattacharya who I talked to in this first episode, he believes that it was a well-meaning, but catastrophically dangerous and stupid policy.
GLENN: And I think if Fauci would have come out right away, and said, we were involved.
We were doing this. That's probably at least a chance of that.
But we were well-meaning. He would have paid a big price for it, because it was against the law. But people would have kind of understood. But the minute he started being Draconian, and making us pay for his life. He was doomed. Doomed.
MATT: Yeah. Yeah. So I think there are two pieces to that. He's obviously being a consummate apparatchik. He's a bureaucrat. He's a climber. He's politically savvy on TV. He knows how to lie well.
But I also think, there was this philosophical ideological bent that all of these central planners had.
GLENN: Yes.
MATT: They actually believed that they could rationally redesign civil society from the top-down.
Giving scientists and other experts all the power.
GLENN: Civil society 2.0.
MATT: Yeah.
GLENN: That's the whole Colour Revolution thing.
They can redesign!
It's the Fabian socialists.
MATT: It goes all the way back. I mean, the entire progressive movement was this arrogance. It goes back before that. The guy that founded socialism. A French aristocrat. He actually had this vision. Where he would replace civil society with a council of scientists. And they would rearrange the dominoes.
And we were just molecules, I guess, in these scenarios.
GLENN: Right. More in just a minute.
This episode. By the way, it's a pilot episode tonight. Sorry, it's not tonight. It's right now. Sorry, used to TV.
Right now, you can stream it. Blaze TV. It's available for all subs at BlazeTV.com.
If you're not a subscriber go to BlazeTV.com/Glenn.
Use the promo code Fauci lied. To get $30 off.
It is -- I mean, this is the goods.
This is the goods.
This is the pilot of a series. But they've got the goods.
And, you know, I don't want to get into Rand Paul, who will never let this go, is he?
MATT: He said that to me yesterday.
