RADIOJanuary 16, 2024

New video evidence TEARS APART Capitol Police testimony on Jan. 6

Blaze Media has finally secured the rights to release CCTV footage from the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021 - and it's shocking. The timestamped footage tracks the movement of Capitol Police Special Agent David Lazarus, a key witness in the government's trial against members of the Oath Keepers. In the trial, Lazarus testified that he witnessed multiple "antagonistic" interactions between Oath Keepers and Capitol Police Officer Harry Dunn. But Blaze Media investigative reporter Steve Baker joins Glenn to discuss what the footage makes clear: Lazarus wasn't even in the same building at the time of the alleged confrontation! So, Glenn and Steve ask, is this enough evidence for a mistrial for the Oath Keepers who were jailed in part due to Lazarus' testimony? Steve also discusses the likely possibility that he will soon be arrested by the FBI and reveals what the FBI told him when he asked what crime he was accused of.

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GLENN: Steve Baker, who we are -- I don't say this, you know, happily, Steve. I don't mean to make this sound like something we're all excited about

But somebody that I -- I expected to be in jail already. And we're expecting that you may not last the month, before you're arrested by the FBI. Any updates on that?

BAKER: The only update we have was given to my attorney, between the week of Christmas, and January 1st. And that was a conversation he had with the new US attorney that has my case.

And that new US attorney told him that now they have moved my self-surrender date, back to mid-January. And that they would give me seven to ten days notice. Because they have -- I will tell you for two years. They respected my travel schedule.

And have at least shown that kind of courtesy.

But it's the middle of the month now. And we still haven't heard back from them yet.

Now, they did tell my attorney at the time, when he asked, can you just let us know what the charges are going to be?

And the A-USA said, no, we're not going to tell you. Well, why is that?

And I -- I kid you not, Glenn, the US attorney told my attorney, that won't tell me what my charges are, or what I'm facing. Because they said, I will tweet it out, immediately.

GLENN: Well, yeah. So what's the problem with that?

BAKER: I'm not exactly sure.

GLENN: Yeah. So, Steve, we have a lot of people listening today.

They saw what happened in Iowa last night.

They want analysis on it.

We will get that to you, in a second.

For people who haven't been following, why they're after you. It has to have something to do with the fact that you were in the building as a journalist, just like the ABC and NBC people. And you took video.

And you started to say, this isn't the story that everybody is saying it is. Then about two months ago, you put together a video for TheBlaze.

That showed Nancy Pelosi's security detail. Who is instrumental, in the convictions of a lot of these people.

Tell me, bring me up to speed. We'll play the first part of the clip. Tell me what we will hear in this clip.

BAKER: It very important for people to focus in on one thing here.

Special agent, David Lazarus. Who was on the protection detail for Nancy Pelosi.

He testified in the oath keeper's trial. That he witnessed the interaction between the Oath Keepers. And Harry Dunn. Officer Harry Dunn. Who is now running for Congress, by the way.

Yes. And that he saw this interaction. This highly antagonistic interaction between Oath Keepers and Harry Dunn.

Three or four times is what he testified, in great detail, in that trial.

The problem with that, Glenn, was -- is that special agent Lazarus, was not even in the same building.

And we secured the Capitol CCTV video, that I don't think they ever thought, we would get access to. Showing that that's the truth.

GLENN: So let me -- let me play the first part of what first broke yesterday. It's from Blaze TV. And it is an investigative report, again, by Steve Baker.

Here is the setup of what Steve said prior to. So you'll understand the importance of this videotape, in cut two. Listen.

BAKER: The story of David Lazarus on January 6 is very simple.

VOICE: Lawyers for Stewart Rhodes and the Oath Keepers on trial, have suggested that the group helped Officer Harry Dunn.

Dunn just took the stand and said flatout, quote, they didn't.

VOICE: Sentenced to four years in prison.

VOICE: Sentenced to eight and a half years in prison.

VOICE: Sentenced to 12 years in prison.

VOICE: Sentenced to 18 years in prison.

VOICE: His story that day, is he was assisting the evacuation of the Senate at that time. That the incident between Officer Harry Dunn and the Oath Keepers began.

VOICE: Outside of the rotunda, there was Harry Dunn. He was a Capitol police officer. He was freaking out. I mean, he was screaming.

VOICE: Get the (bleep) out of here!

VOICE: He had a rifle. He didn't want to -- he was going to take a bunch of people with him. He was definitely in a position where he could do some damage.

VOICE: The Oath Keepers lined up between him and the more agitated protesters, and assisted him in keeping them off of him.

STU: Dunn rejected the defense's argument, that members of the militia protected him.

GLENN: Wow.

VOICE: I don't conflate my story.

VOICE: He had two separate FBI interviews which were conflict with one another. In the first FBI interview, he actually gave a favorable story about his encounter with the four Oath Keepers.

VOICE: Add stood in front of Harry Dunn for almost six minutes.

VOICE: After he was brought in for his second FBI interview, he changed that story.

VOICE: It was fighting back insurrectionists across the Capitol, while being called the vilest, most racist names.

VOICE: So what they did, was where I in another officer, Special Agent David Lazarus to kind of bolster that story and give it more credibility. By saying, that when he arrived at the top of those stairs, that he saw Dunn standing at the top of those stairs, being hassled by these Oath Keepers.

VOICE: At the time, the Harry Dunn Oath Keepers' encounter began, he was not in the same building.

GLENN: Wow!

Now, what this video, if you're not a Blaze TV subscriber. What you're seeing on the screen, are the time stamps. There's about eight different cuts there, of where everybody is in the Capitol.

You see it on a map, through graphics. But you also then see the Capitol cameras.

What's so frightening about this, Steve. Is they didn't think that anybody would get this footage.

And the lie is -- is so clear, that it is a lie.

And basically, to put all of these people in jail. Based on that lie.

It is terrifying what our government is willing to do to its own people.

BAKER: It's terrifying that they are still trying to cover this up.

In fact, we learned just a few days ago, that Capitol Chief police Thomas Manger has stated that he has no intention to investigate this internally.

Or to investigate the actions or the testimony of Federal Agent Lazarus.

GLENN: What!

BAKER: That's correct. And what's also amazing. We showed this in this particular video. We showed a screenshot of an internal Capitol Police leadership email, that I received from one of my sources, inside the building. Who sent this to me, when back in the original release that we did, when we started talked about this, without the videos back in October.

That they were very pleased that the story was not getting traction at the time.

But now that we have the video, this thing really blew up on the social media sites yesterday.

GLENN: Okay. So tell me what we're going to see and hear now, part two.

BAKER: This basically is going to take us through the part where we see Lazarus now, emerging to the area where he claimed that he was.

But this is long after the Oath Keepers have left the building. They have certainly left the area, and are exiting the building.

But this once again, it solidifies the fact that it really brings home the fact, Glenn. That these individuals were testified against, improperly. They were lied against.

They're certainly at the very least. They're -- they're -- not only their convictions. But their sentencing was much worse as a result of the testimony between Harry Dunn and Lazarus.

And the fact is, neither one of these cops who testified in this trial, could possibly have experienced what they said.

As I said before, they gave revery specific and detailed testimonies. And both of them are not only in conflict with one another.

They are this complete conflict with the truth.

GLENN: Okay. Here's part two. This was released yesterday. Listen to this.

VOICE: Lazarus was just not there. He could not have seen -- he could not have witnessed what was taking place, because Lazarus was in another Senate office building across the street from Constitution Avenue.

GLENN: Wow.

VOICE: So we were able to track Lazarus on the Capitol CCTV cameras. Lazarus can be seen moving away from the Capitol building through a lower tunnel at 2:37:59 p.m. Lazarus continues moving toward the Senate office buildings at 2:41:49 p.m.

During Officer Lazarus' October 31st trial testimony, he stated that he began his return to the Capitol building after hearing shots fired, over Capitol Police radio.

VOICE: Shots fired.

VOICE: That occurred at 2:43 p.m.

Here, Lazarus can be seen moving back toward the Capitol at 2:45 p.m.

Dunn's encounter with the Oath Keepers began at 2:44, and lasted roughly between 5 and 6 minutes.

Here, Lazarus finally emerges from the tunnel, back to the Senate side of the Capitol building at 2:48.

Dunn falsely testified that Lazarus was already at the location, where he encountered the Oath Keepers, before he arrived.

But Lazarus can be seen at the top of the elevator, leading up from the tunnel, at 2:48 p.m. on the Senate side of the Capitol.

Over four minutes after Dunn encountered the Oath Keepers from on the House side.

GLENN: I mean, how is this not being investigated?

I guess this is where you come in.

If it is -- if it wasn't for people like you, we wouldn't know.

If it wasn't for places like TheBlaze, this story wouldn't be told. And it would just go away.

But in a surveillance state. And that's really what the Capitol grounds are.

It's a survivals surveillance.

It takes a lot of time, as you know.

But in a normal circumstance, this would mean, that those people, who were tried, and convicted, with this testimony, they would either go for a mistrial. Or they would be immediately released.

That's the way America has always worked.

And no one is doing anything about it.

They think they're going to get away with it. Is that just because people aren't aware of it.

GLENN: Well, they're not aware of it.

But I will tell you, we're working very, very closely with congressional members and staffers on this particular story. As well as the other stories that we currently have this development.

As a matter of fact, representative Barry Loudermilk, who is the chairman of the subcommittee of oversight, from House admin. They just announced a couple days ago.

That they have been given three times the number of staffers from House Speaker Johnson, for the specific purpose of investigating January 6th matters, and I can confirm that now.

But we have been -- I have sat with Mr. Loudermilk several times. I have met with his chief of staff and his staff members on many occasions now.

And I think that -- at the very least, before a committee is called. Or another J6 select committee is convened.

They are going to bring these officers in for transcripts and interviews under oath.

GLENN: Thank you very much, Steve.

I really appreciate all your work. And we pray for you.

And I ask America, pray for Steve baker. He is under threat from the US government.

Just because he's telling the truth. How do I know it's the truth?

He has the video evidence.

Steve, thank you so much. Blaze media correspondent. And investigative journalist.

And if you didn't have this video yet, you can find it online.

You can go to TheBlaze.com.

You can also find it on Blaze TV. But tweet this out. And spread this as much as possible.

This tells in a completely different story.

And there is nothing, but facts, you cannot argue this. At all.

Because everything is time stamped.

The REAL reason for Trump’s Alaska meeting with Putin

The media is WRONG to believe President Trump’s meeting in Anchorage with Vladimir Putin is a gift to Russia, which wants to own Alaska. In fact, it’s the exact opposite, Glenn Beck believes. Glenn speaks with The Free Press columnist Matthew Continetti, who makes the case that Trump pressured Putin into having this face-to-face meeting, where he can use the full power of his negotiation skills. Plus, he explains why he believes this is just the first of many meetings as Trump tries to end the war in Ukraine…

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GLENN: All right. Matthew, welcome to the program.

How are you?

MATTHEW: I'm well, Glenn. Thank you for having me.

GLENN: You bet.

I think only contrary to whatever in the mainstream is saying. They're saying, oh, he's bringing him over to Alaska, and that's such a win for Putin. I don't think it's a win at all for Putin.

And it has taken him more than one day, because he had to change the dynamics of American policy.

And I think the policies of the world. And you point that out in your article.

You want to go a little deeper into that?

MATTHEW: Oh, sure. Absolutely. I think Trump is going to the summit today in Anchorage with a lot of leverage over Vladimir Putin. And you're right, the mainstream media is -- wants already to characterize this as a win for Putin because there's a meeting taking place at all.

But I think this fundamentally misunderstands President Trump.
President Trump wants to meet anybody.

He doesn't care. He's happy to talk to anybody.

The question is always, what will come out? And if you remember, he met with Kim Jong-un twice.

And in Hanoi, when Kim Jong-un just wouldn't give up concessions on his nuclear program. Trump walked away.

So that could easily happen this time.

But I think the overall dynamic changed in just the past few months.

The first step was, getting Ukraine on board.

A proposal for a 30-day cease-fire. On the ground. And in the air.

And as we know, you know, Zelinsky, the president of Ukraine was reluctant to even sign on top of my to that.

Before that Oval Office does stuff earlier this year.

He got on board. That meant Trump could then go and say to Europe. Let's get additional leverage, by agreeing to increasing our defense budgets.

And then, Trump agreed to this deal, where NATO will purchase weapons in the United States. We're not spending any money.

We're getting the money in Europe for these weapons.

And then Europe would hand the weapons to Ukraine.

That definitely got Putin's attention, as did our successful strike against Iran's nuclear program.

In -- in June. Remember, Iran is a Russian ally. Iran is supplying a lot of those drones that are raining down on the Ukrainian cities.

And we basically took Iran out.

I mean, Israel helped quite a bit, of course. In the 12-day war.

But so we've slowly ratcheted up the pressure on Putin.

Thanks to President Trump's policies.

Most recent one was this 50 percent tariff on India.

Now, you might say, well, what does that have to do with Ukraine and Russia?

Well, India is a huge purchaser of Russian energy.

So when Trump says, look, we will punish third parties, that are financing the Russian war effort, well, that's when Putin said, look, I would like to talk to you directly.

GLENN: Wow. You know, I've been trying to figure out the India angle.

Because India is a huge trade partner.

And we really want them on our side.

That makes a lot of sense.

So if they stop purchasing the Russian oil, then that trade barrier comes down?

MATTHEW: Absolutely. This is how President Trump uses tariffs.

Sure, he likes them for a variety of reasons.

They raise revenue for the government. They want to incentivize foreign investments to build factories in the United States.

But he -- he likes them in particular, because there are ways that he can use America's economic might to get results. In the foreign policy sphere.

And in this case, you're exactly right. The tariff is going on in India, because of the purchases of Russian oil.

And they said, we will reduce those purchases. Then the tariff would come off.

Let's not forget too, the energy sector is hurting in Russia. That's really Russia's main source of economic growth into government revenue.

And oil has declined from 19 percent from year over year, since Trump has taken office.

That's partly because of Trump's energy policy.

The drill, baby, drill policy.

That freed up that supply. And, of course, more supply means lower price. And that hurts Vladimir Putin as well.

GLENN: They have like, I think it's -- when it goes -- what is it?

Below $80 a barrel. They can't -- they have to start dipping into reserves. They can't -- they can't afford it.

MATTHEW: Yeah, and I think when it crosses 60. It goes over 60, then they really start to hurt.

GLENN: Right.

JASON: Hey, Matthew, Jason Buttrill here, Glenn's chief researcher. There's been a lot of, I guess, word from the Europeans. Ukrainians even the Russians, talking about territorial concessions. And, like, that's everybody's red line. Do you think with some of the setup discussions with Witkoff, with Putin earlier, do you think that there's any room for -- you know, for leeway here?

Do you think that possibly Trump might have an upper hand with that as well?

Will we see anything, when that's always the huge red line between the two?

MATTHEW: Right.

Well, I think the administration, and it may have gotten a little bit ahead of itself right after Witkoff's meeting. When you heard the president mention these land swaps. Very quickly, president Zelinsky said, whoa. I'm not ready for that.

And then the Europeans said, well, we also need to be part of that table as well.

Since then in the days leading up to today's summit. Trump has been very careful to lower expectations. He said that this is a feeling out meeting. Caroline Leavitt called it a listening session. Trump has said, look, if Putin is not ready for a cease-fire, then I'm going to leave.

And he also said, this is just the first meeting.

He's been very clear, the past couple of days. Any settlement that would probably include some type of territorial lines being drawn.

Would only happen between a meeting between Russia, the United States, and Ukraine.

And then as President Trump said the other day.

Maple take Europeans to the meeting as well.

So I think we heard that land swap talk, early on. In the days since, the president has had a much more realistic view on of what could be attainable in this first meeting with Vladimir Putin.

Remember, he hasn't met Putin in person, since 2018. He wants to get a direct sense of Putin's body language.

And psychology.

GLENN: Yeah. That's important for the president.

Because he -- I kind of studied some of the deals he's done in the last, I don't know.

15 years. On land. And, you know, Trump -- you know, as a company.

And there's a story about, when he was trying to sell the New York plaza.

And he met with the Japanese people.

And it was all arranged. All they had to do was just close the deal with him.

And he got into the room. And he spent maybe three or four minutes, talking and listening to them.

Within five minutes, he had changed the teal, and said, you know what, I'm building something oar on the East River.

Or the west side how. That I think you're really going to like. And he started. And everybody on his team, when they broke, they said, what are you doing? He said, they're not interested in the -- in the plaza.

He's like, I can tell right away. We're not going to be able to close that deal. I switched to this deal. So him face-to-face. There's something about him, when he's negotiating face-to-face.

He feels the room clearly. That even his closest advisers can't translate. And can't give him.

Would you agree with that?

MATTHEW: Oh, I agree, completely. I mean, he -- he makes very gut decisions, based on people's appearances.

Based on people's body language.

Are they fidgeting?

What sort of health are they in?

And these are things that are hard to assess over the phone. And even hard to assess, when you have an intelligence briefer there. Trump, of course, wants to see for himself.

That's why I think this meeting will be exploratory.

Remember too, Trump has had this string of diplomatic success. During his second term. Just last week. He presided over the bill. Between Armenia and Azerbaijan, this the White House.

That was part of it as well.

That's part of the world. The caucuses has always been considered part of the Russian sphere of influence. And here we have, two nations from that part of the world, not going to Moscow.

But going to the White House.

And shaking hands with President Trump. To arrange a deal. And that -- Putin there too, is saying, okay.

I'm losing my influence. Not just in Europe.

Where, of course, NATO has expanded, rather than contracted. Since the Ukraine, in Beijing.

But even in my own backyard.

We have these two nations: Armenia, Azerbaijan looking to Trump. Then, of course, we have the recent flare-up between Thailand and Cambodia that Trump is able to stop from escalating out of control.

Earlier in the year, India and Pakistan, the same thing.

These sorts of agreements that Trump has been able to marshal, preside over. Use our economic leverage, to obtain.

I think it's one reason he wants to have this meeting with Putin.

Because he's beginning to understand his method of bringing the two size to the table. And forging an agreement.

GLENN: We're talking to Matthew Continetti. He's with AEI. He's a senior fellow. And also columnist for the Free Press.

Matthew, I don't think anybody today, really gives him the credit that he deserves, as a master negotiator.

You know, he's -- he was known as that. You know, in business. But what he's done in the last seven months, to the world, and changing the dynamics in the world. To bring all these people together.

You know, he's never going to get a Nobel Peace Prize.

Somebody will nominate. Yeah. Let's watch that happen.

Do you think -- at some point, assuming all these things continue to hold. And he continues this trend.

I mean, he could be one of the greatest peacemakers in American history.

MATTHEW: Well, I think though, he's taking a real lesson from Theodore Roosevelt.

GLENN: Yes.

MATTHEW: Who --

GLENN: Who won the Nobel Prize 100 years after he died. Yeah.

MATTHEW: Exactly. And, you know, Teddy Roosevelt's foreign policy was gumbo diplomacy, right? No -- no regime change. And nation building. Gumbo diplomacy. You have a strong military, might have to do a raid every now and then.

Like we just did against the Iranian nuclear infrastructure, but also mediation.

Theodore Roosevelt wanted the United States to mediate between different powers, and get them to the table. And I see that working in Trump's foreign policy. As well.

You know, within let's not forget, even in his first term. He had the Abraham accords. Between Israel. And several Arab nations.

You're right, Glenn. He's a peacemaker.

I think, even though he won't get any credit from the liberal media now. The test of time will, I think, ensure his legacy. Because, you know, going back to the first term.

Abrahamic Accords. The Biden administration which followed him never really gave Trump any credit.

But they also didn't do anything to disturb the Abrahamic Accords. And also, wanted to try to expand, as Trump wants to do right now. So what I think he's doing is building a foundation, that will last.

And I also hope, he's -- he's teaching lessons, that future presidents, can take to heart.

America can use our economic power, in a way, to obtain peace agreements. To make sure that our position is maximized in different negotiations. We don't always have to resort to military force.

Even, as we keep it as an option in a case like the Iranian nuclear threat.

GLENN: Matthew, thank you for the insight.

Appreciate it.

Wait. Wait. Before you go. One more thing. Expecting anything to come out of this?

MATTHEW: I -- I have pretty low expectations, Glenn.

GLENN: Yeah.

MATTHEW: I think there's a chance we can get some sort of cease-fire.

But I wouldn't bet the ranch on it.

GLENN: Yeah. Thank you, Matt. We'll talk again.

Energy Secretary reveals Trump's plan to LOWER your electricity bill

President Trump's Energy Secretary, Chris Wright, joins Glenn Beck to discuss Trump's plan to lower your electricity bill. While he says it can't happen every night, he assures Glenn's listeners that Trump is asking for updates on this "every single day." Plus, he reveals how the administration plans to cut red tape, use nuclear energy, and stop the immature closure of coal plants to boost American energy.

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GLENN: Okay. We have Chris -- Chris Wright on. US Energy Secretary. We are concerned about our energy, and thank God, Donald Trump. Can you imagine how bad this would be, if Joe Biden's policies would have continued? Thank God we're doing a lot of really good things. But I wanted to get a sense from Chris, on where we are, and what he thinks of what's happening in Maryland, and the warning, that Goldman is giving this week?

Chris, welcome to the program.

CHRIS: Thanks for having me on, Glenn. Yeah. You hit the hot topic, right away.

GLENN: Okay. So I would assume that you agree with what Goldman said?

CHRIS: Oh. Absolutely. In fact, we've released a report from the department, just a few weeks ago. And if you had continued the Biden policies, which are to permit and subsidize energy sources that might be there. Might not. They generally aren't there at peak demand.

If we had continued those policies, they would have shut down another hundred gigawatts of firm production capacity, that's there when you need it. And they have permits to improve and planned to add -- add 22 gigawatts of that. Check out 100, add 22.

So a net loss of 78 gigawatts, to an electricity grid that's already tight, that already delivers blackouts and peak demand. They were on a trajectory to increase blackouts by 100 fold, by the end of the first Paris term, if she had won that election.

It is just -- we were driving over a cliff, and they were hitting the accelerator to go faster. It's ridiculous.

GLENN: What really bothered me was the policy that when they shut these plants down, we would actually pay the power companies, to shut these down, if they dismantled the coal power plants. They actually could get subsidy. If they made sure, there was no going back into that.

Which I found terrifying, and horribly irresponsible.

CHRIS: Glenn, it's just crazy. An environmentalist melted down a few weeks ago, when I used my authority at the Department of Energy, to stop the closure of a one and a half gigawatt coal plant in southwestern Michigan.

Oh, you're going to post tax -- costs on the -- we don't know that coal plant. It's slated to close.

Two days later, there was a blackout in my zone, the Midwestern independent system operator. Two days later, that plant was running at full capacity. It would have been massively worse. Crisis would have been massively higher.

You just talked about Baltimore. We also stopped the closure of a very old power plant in Baltimore, but a critical power plant that keeps the lights on at peak demand, that's also running at full capacity as we speak today and has for much of the last few weeks.

Oh, no. We don't need it. We're going to close it. It -- it's just when politics gets in the middle of energy, it truly impacts people's lives.

At least the blackouts. Rising costs. You know, we had 30 percent rise in power prices during just four years of President Joe Biden.

And now we're going to launch the AI race against China? And we are going to have our lights going off, without data centers, without new industry in our country?

Just thank God, the American people, overwhelmingly elected President Trump. We brought common sense back. We're swimming seven days a week, to try to fix the train wreck they left us. So it's exciting. It's more stressful than I would like. But I can assure you, we're headed in the right direction now.

GLENN: So what really bothers me, is how dangerous nuclear power is, and how we can't use that.

Even though, that solves the global warming thing. We've never been able to have that. We have to reduce our power usage. You know, go back to the good old days in, I don't know, medieval times. And -- but now that AI is here. Now that the big tech companies step up and say, no, no, no. We -- we have to have power for AI. Now all of those rules are out the window.

Which -- which bothers me so much, because it is -- it's as if the left and the power structures, don't really care about the average person. And them having power.

They care about these big corporations, and -- and AI being able to have compute power.

But not the average person. And it's -- it's -- it's disgusting.

It's really disgusting.

CHRIS: I -- I think that's right, Glenn.

It also shows that they never really cared about incremental changes in greenhouse gas emissions. The climate change thing is mostly a classroom for power. We're going to decide the way the world works. And make rules for you.

Because you stupid rubes out there in America, you can't make your own decisions.

We must make them for you. But yet, they were never about a rational approach to reduce greenhouse gases.

They don't even know that much about greenhouse gas emissions.

You said, they hated nuclear then. Now they see we're on a train wreck. They don't want to admit their climate alarmism was wrong. And wildly exaggerated.

Now, nuclear power is okay.

Because we need. We need these data centers, these big companies need power. It's not just -- it's not just those crazy routes in Middle America, like you and I.

GLENN: So, you know, in your report, you said, you know, we will increase blackouts by 100 times in the next five years, if we don't keep more base load power online.

How rapidly are we going to see these nuclear power plants, et cetera, et cetera, being built?

And is it only to serve those server farms, or are we going to redo the American power grid, itself?

CHRIS: It will be across the grid. So it is an exciting development, Glenn.

But it's the government. It's this overweening, fear-mongering government that actually smothered and killed nuclear industry, for most of the last four decades. So since it's been my mothered for so long, it will take time to get that ball really moving. We will have an already closed nuclear power plant, back open in Michigan. Later this year, January. Hopefully, at the latest.

You know, there's some developments that will happen in the next few months.

But most of it, will take a few years.

Really, what's going to feed the data centers that are going to be built, and the reindustrialization of our country.

And keep the lights on, and our air-conditioning on in the summertime.

Most of that is going to come from stopping the closure of the coal plant.

GLENN: Right.

CHRIS: That the Biden administration and Obama administration wanted to shrink our ability to generate electricity.

And it's going to come from the expansion and rapid construction of new natural gas burning power plants. Natural gas is, by far, the biggest source of electricity.

It's by far the lowest cost -- source of new electricity. So we are doing everything we can, to permit, allow the construction of natural gas plants as fast as possible, and removing these ridiculous requirements.

That, well, if you spend a billion dollars to build a new power plant, within six or seven or eight years, you're going to have to capture all the carbon dioxide emissions, and eject them underground. No matter how much it costs. No matter how much it burdens our power sector.

The direction they were in, just didn't care about American people, or American business.

GLENN: How long before we see these things? I mean, you know, China is building at the speed of at least one coal power plant, a week. They are building nuclear power plants. They are on an energy surge right now.

They know what's coming.

How -- how -- when should we see this actually starting to happen? And how long before power prices come down?

CHRIS: Oh, man. That is -- that is the big question. President Trump asked me that, every single day. Every single day. Let's get oil prices down. Let's get gas prices down. Let's get electricity prices down. And it takes a while to build infrastructure.

Fortunately, quickly, we can stop the closure of coal plants and still have lots of lifetime left. We've already done that.

That's why we don't have much worse blackouts, already today. We do have new gas plants coming on this year, a lot more coming on next year. We will have nuclear plants on, later this term. We will have a whole bunch of them under construction. But yet, to turn the giant, you know, aircraft carrier that is the electricity grid, that's going to take a few years. But hopefully, we can watch the huge rise in prices.

We can build the capacity so that the United States can keep our lead on artificial intelligence over China.

We get behind China, and they control AI, our national security is at risk.

GLENN: Yeah. I know.

CHRIS: The whole administration is seven days a week, working on this effort.

I see dramatically fewer blackouts this summer, than you would have, had the election gone the other way.

And I think we will be in a little better situation next summer. And somewhere in between there, this winter. We're rapidly swimming the right way.

I wish, I could say power prices are going down 20 percent next year. But it's simply not possible to do that, in 12 months. But I will tell you, President Trump is seven days a week doing everything he can, towards that goal.

GLENN: What regions are the worst in the country?

As far as stability and prices?

CHRIS: The Midwest.

You know, the -- the -- where that Michigan coal plant was kept open.

Where that nuclear power plant will reopen later that year. The Midwest Independent System Operator, that's our tightest region.

The southeast and PJM, where Washington, DC, is in the mid-Atlantic states.

They're rapidly getting tighter as well. Everything in the inner connection cue that was new to come on, is a wind or solar project.

But when it's dark out, and when it's really hot, and you're in a high-pressure system.

And the wind doesn't blow. Those things don't help to meet demand. They just provide electricity -- well, you don't know when. But at some points in time, that's not very helpful for an electricity grid. But we're going to stop the closure of the firm capacity.

And we are doing everything we can. We are permitting and approving plants, every week. New construction, new plants, that will be built. And that be here to provide relief to Americans in the next 12 to 24 months.

GLENN: And the most stable region?

CHRIS: The -- the most stable region is actually Texas. Which is by far the biggest electricity grid. They produce more than twice as much electricity as California. And just -- just a little bit less nonsense in Texas.

They still went crazy on the wind stuff. They still have more expensive, and less stable grid than they had ten years ago.

GLENN: Yeah. They do.

CHRIS: But they also have the mindset and the regulatory regime to fix their problem. Texas is rapidly growing its firm capacity, and they will stay out of this crisis, probably a little faster than the more Biden-influenced rest of the country.

GLENN: Hmm. I can't thank you enough for everything you guys are doing. I'm -- I'm amazed at -- at how rapidly you guys have turned things around.

I'm just -- I'm thrilled at the work, you all are doing.

And, Chris, you really are leading us in energy.

And I really appreciate that. Thank you.

CHRIS: Appreciate you, Glenn. Appreciate all your viewers. We're doing everything we can.

We think about the American people. That's the only agenda we have.

GLENN: Thank you so much, Chris.

That's our US Energy Secretary, Chris Wright.

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