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EXPOSED: MASSIVE government, military, media campaign to CENSOR YOU

Journalist Michael Shellenberger has unveiled a new trove of documents that he says dwarf the Twitter Files in scale and importance. The Cyber Threat Intelligence League (CTIL) Files, which were leaked by a whistleblower, detail "the birth of the anti-disinformation sector," which includes government, U.S. and U.K. military contractors, and intelligence agencies, the media, and "sock puppet accounts." And it reveals what many have already assumed: Since the U.S. government can't legally censor Americans' free speech, it has used public-private partnerships to do so — and also to wage propaganda campaigns against people who disagree. Glenn reviews the shocking findings and explains what this means for you: "I think we have the Stasi, America." This doesn't just put freedom at risk, Glenn warns. "This is about the loss of your FREE WILL."

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GLENN: All right. Let me -- let me start with this, first.

Moderna, now is being revealed from TheBlaze.

Moderna is monitoring celebrities for spreading anti-vaccine beliefs.

Journalists now have revealed, that the biotechnology company, hired a former FBI analyst to head its disinformation department tasked with compiling internal reports about celebrities who criticize the COVID-19 vaccine from Moderna.

If they spoke out against the vaccine mandates or shared any anti-vaccine sentiments, the journalist noted that this FBI agent is one of the many former law enforcement agencies, working for Moderna.

The department reports are color-coded and ranked from low risk to high risk, based on how problematic their narratives are to vaccine confidence.

Low risk reports don't currently warrant any action, according to their own Moderna documents.

When a response is required, the company's team will notify appropriate stakeholders with recommendations. Notice the word stakeholders. That is ESG.

We're all in this together. We all have a role to play. We're all stakeholders in this.

Celebrities that made Moderna's high-risk list include Russell Brand, Elon Musk, and Novak. How do you say his name -- the tennis player?

Djokovic. Yeah. It noted that Djokovic was such a problem, because he became an anti-vaccine hero.

Moderna's report said that the optics --

STU: Why with -- he decided he didn't want to take the vaccine. I don't -- it wasn't like he was RFK Jr out on every show talking go. He just wanted to play tennis.

GLENN: I know. While he wasn't --

STU: While he made a choice they didn't like, he wasn't an activist, I would say. He was just saying like, this is what I want to do. If people want to do the opposite, go ahead.

GLENN: You can't have that opinion. Okay?

STU: That's crazy. Crazy.

GLENN: So this is in the Moderna report now, that's just come out. The optics of Djokovic, whose vaccine opposition barred him from competing in the U.S. Open, returning to and winning the Moderna sponsored competition bolsters anti-vax claims, that vaccines and mandates are unnecessary.

He was high risk. So what does that mean?

What does that mean?

Let me give you another quick story here.
New study of big tech censorship, claims online companies such as Google, X, and Meta have censored President Biden's opponents who are running for the Oval Office 162 times.

Topping the list is Vivek Ramaswamy and Robert Kennedy Jr. Third on the list was Nikki Haley, followed by Larry Elder, and then Donald Trump. Here's another story for you.

You've heard all of the stories about how evil Donald Trump is, because he was -- he was going to these banks. And overstating his worth, and he was conning -- you remember. Predatory lenders. Remember that?

This time, the borrower, was predatory against the lender.

That's their case. However, called to the stand yesterday, was Deutsche Bank executive. That this whole thing revolves around. This is the guy who did the loan, for Deutsche Bank.

And they were all -- did he not overstate?

Did he not overstate?

The guy said, yeah. It was atypical. But not entirely unusual for a client to do that.

And we -- we approved the loan, because we expected it to generate a profit, based on his history of successful developments.

So we took what he wrote, we reevaluated.

STU: Of course.

GLENN: We -- we said, he's not worth that. He's worth about half of that.

Okay?

And then we gave him a loan based on that. There's no victim here. There's no victim here.

So how is this happening? How is this happening?

How is it half the country is convinced this guy is just an evil Nazi?

Michael Shellenberger, a whistle-blower has come forward, with explosive new trove of documents.

Rivalling or exceeding the Twitter files and Facebook files, in scale or importance.

They described the activities of an anti-disinformation group, called the cyber threat intelligence league. I bet they even wear capes.

It's the CTIL. Cyber Threat Intelligence League. And it started as a volunteer project of data science and scientists, and defense and intelligence veterans.

We just want to do good. We're the justice league. And we're seeing what's going on. And we're going to volunteer our time.

Hmm. That's amazing. Unfortunately, it appears that they have been absorbed in multiple official projects, including federal government Department of Homeland Security.

CTI League documents offer a missing link answer to key questions, not addressed in the Twitter files and Facebook files. Combined, they offer a comprehensive picture of the birth of the anti-disinformation sector. Or what we have called the censorship industrial complex. Paragraph according to Michael Shellenberger whistle-blower documents describe everything from the genesis of modern digital censorship programs. To the role of the military, and intelligence agencies.

Partnerships with civil society organizations.

And commercial media.

And the use of sock puppet accounts and other offensive techniques.

In one document, they explained that, while such activities overseas are typically done by the CIA and NSA, and the Department of Defense, censorship efforts against Americans, have to be done using a public/private partnership.

Again, ESG stakeholders. Because the government, and I'm quoting from the document, doesn't have the legal authority.

So this -- this arm now, went out and said, look, we can't do this.

How can we do this?

The whistle-blower alleges, in a trove of documents, that a leader of CTI League. A former British intelligence analyst, was in the room at the Obama White House, in 2017.

When she received the instructions to create a counter-disinformation project to stop a repeat of 2016.

Huh. A network now of over 100 government agencies. And nongovernmental organizations. Worked together to hurt censorship by social media platforms. And spread propaganda about disfavored individuals, topics, and whole narratives.

So this is out in our show prep today. If you haven't -- if you don't get my newsletter every day, you should sign up for it, it's free. You'll get it every day. There's story in there, that you just -- you don't hear about. Because nobody in the mainstream is talking about them.

This one is a very long story. But I'm telling you, it will make your hair fall out. Because it's not just about going to Facebook and -- and Google and saying, hey. Can you guys maybe, you know, throttle that person back a little bit?

Because they're -- they're doing -- they're saying some things that aren't so nice.

No, no, no. They're not only doing that. But then, they have disinformation puppets. And disinformation operatives, that will go out and spread disinformation about that individual.

That way, they can go to Facebook and everywhere else. And say, look at who this guy really is.

You want to be associated with him?

Look at what they're saying about him online. Not only that, but then they take that information to the banks. To get the bank to debank that person.

I think we have the Stasi, America.

Now, the -- the thing about this is: This is happening. This story is what was happening in 2019.

Okay?

This is all about the pandemic.

And what they were doing, and can you imagine what they are doing today?

And the better AI gets, the better you can collate all of the information, tie it to certain individuals.

You can create anything you want. You can get people to do anything you want.

We're not talking about the loss of freedom here. Listen to me carefully. This is something that I have been reading about, and talking about for 20 years.

It wasn't relative to people. They couldn't understand it.

And so I -- I have only talked about it a few times. Because it was all just -- it was a concept, that this is going to get so bad, that.

I'm telling you, it's here now. Listen carefully.

This is not about your loss of freedom. This is about the loss of your free will.

What we as individuals were given by God, not just rights. Those rights are protected.

The government is supposed to protect those rights. We do have rights. We have responsibilities. Some of us don't exercise our responsibility, and most of us don't even understand our rights.

But all of that is a subset of free will. You can go out. You can investigate. You have an idea.

You go, and you create your own path.

What this organization is doing. What these people are doing. And if Congress does not stop them, we lose our free will.

These people must go to jail.

What they're doing, is they can manipulate you. Without you even knowing it.

You've seen it before with Google, and the way they stack things.

Now you have the Western governments. Five eyes.

That's all five of the big Western countries.

Called five eyes.

The biggest intelligence agencies. They're all involved in this.

And they're doing it to each other's citizens. We're probably doing it to England. And England is doing it to us.

But we're doing the same thing. And it is shaping you in a way that you can't even record. You will never recognize.

By 2030, by 2030, I guarantee you, if this stuff isn't stopped, you won't know whose idea it was.

You will think it was your idea, to do X, Y, or Z.

To live X, Y, or Z. To buy X, Y, or Z. To go, to speak.

To say X, Y, or Z. You you will think it was your idea, and it will not be.

This has been debated for 25 years. And nobody paid attention to it. And I'm a weirdo. And I paid attention to it.

Because I didn't understand it at first. I was like, loss of free will. How could you possibly lose?

This is 1995 or 2000. How can you possibly lose free will?

You lose it, because you don't -- you don't recognize what is actually shaping you, as an individual.

This is not advertisement.

This is personal propaganda, geared directly at you as an individual.

So we're not talking about the loss of freedom.

We're talking about the reason you are here, as a human being.

God gave you free will.

Jesus came, because we have free will. And we will make the wrong decisions, so he offers us salvation.

We are talking about the literal schemes of the devil. The schemes of Satan, taking away your free will.

I know I'm on a list. I know -- I think we've lost 95 percent of our reach on Facebook, in the last year. How is that possible?

Everything we do, that's independent, is growing like crazy. We're having the biggest year of my career, this year.

And my Facebook is down 90, 95 percent?

How is that happening? They're shaping you, and keeping voices that they don't want you to hear.

Be aware. Know that this is now being done, at a governmental level, in the entire West.

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Was Tucker RIGHT about Bonhoeffer, killing Hitler, and Christianity?

Tucker Carlson recently claimed that Dietrich Bonhoeffer decided “Christianity is not enough” when he took part in a plot to kill Adolf Hitler. Was Tucker right? Glenn Beck, who has studied Bonhoeffer in-depth, dives into the full story of Bonhoeffer and his struggle with these same questions…

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GLENN: I'll bring this up. Tucker did a podcast yesterday, that I listened to, or a couple of days. Whatever. You know, I listened to it yesterday.

And -- and the reason why I listened to it is because so many friends are like, he's talking about Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Glenn. Blah, blah, blah.

And I don't want to get into -- I'm not going to talk about personalities. I just want to talk about facts. You draw your own conclusion about who you listen to. And you can listen to them or not listen to them. That's fine. But let's make sure we correct facts and not make it about personalities.

Okay. Dietrich Bonhoeffer is one of my heroes. Dietrich Bonhoeffer is one of the greatest men to ever live. Dietrich Bonhoeffer is a Christian pastor. And let me set it up this way. When the Third Reich grew, and the Weimar republic collapsed, there was this -- there was this -- this movement in Christianity that happened quickly. Within the first year of the end of the Weimar and the beginning of the Nazi regime, within a year, 60 percent of the churches ridded themselves of everything Jewish. Okay? Now, that's hard to do when your main hero figure is a Jew! And the entire history, that said, hey. He's coming, is also written by Jews! Okay?

It's the Old Testament. And, by the way, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. They were Jews too! So it's hard to rinse the Jew out of the Judeo-Christian world. But somehow or another, they did it. Sixty percent. Okay?

They've gotten rid of, including many churches, already had gone for it and gotten rid of the Old Testament. That is something that Hitler's people were really pushing for: Get rid of the Old Testament. Well, you have nothing left, if you don't have the Old Testament with the New Testament!

So the world had gone insane. The Christian world had gone insane. Within six months, many, if not most of the churches had replaced the picture of Christ on the altar, with a picture of Adolf Hitler. So he changed the fabric of Christianity, entirely. And he was going after any pastor, priest, anybody, who was preaching something different. Okay? There were a couple of pastors. One played along with it at first. Pastor Niemöller. And he was like, "At first they came for this, and I didn't say anything, and then they came for this."

He didn't say anything at first. Then he -- then he got in -- and he's like, oh, I should do it. But he was praised in the end, for his unwavering faith. He actually stood.

And he actually -- he was -- one of the guys who preached that the Nazis were not to blame alone. They played their role.

But may I quote, would the Nazis been able to do what they would have done, if church members would have been truly faithful Christians. The answer is, no!

Truly faithful.

Now, Tucker said yesterday, that he doesn't think that Bonhoeffer was -- I don't remember the exact lines. I'll probably get it wrong.

Do we have it?

Okay. Go ahead and play it.

VOICE: We really have no choice, but to start shooting them. To be Dietrich Bonhoeffer. And sort of reach the end of reason or even Christianity.

Bonhoeffer decided, Christianity is -- he's a Lutheran pastor.

Christianity is not enough. We have to kill the guy. Not judging Bonhoeffer. He was a great man in some ways.

But, I mean, that's inevitable, once we decide that people are Nazis.

GLENN: Okay. So his point here, he's making about, we have to stop calling people Nazis.

And he's absolutely right. You have to stop calling people Nazis or shooting against them. Exactly right, unless they're actual Nazis. You know what I mean?

I mean, there's a difference between saying, hey. We should not call people Nazis, who are not Nazis, and Dietrich Bonhoeffer shouldn't have called Hitler a Nazi. He was the Nazi.

He's the idyllic Nazi. He's the king of all Nazis. He's a Nazi!

So when it is a Nazi, I think you can call people Nazis.

But, yeah. That does require you then to make a choice.

And that's where Bonhoeffer found himself.

This guy was an amazing man. He was a pacifist. He did not believe in war. He did not believe in killing. He -- and that's how he skated for a long time. Because he was saying, quiet. Quiet. Quiet.

Nope. Nope. Nope. Do not involve yourself in this. God does not want us to kill each other. He was a huge pacifist. His story goes back and forth. You have to read the Bonhoeffer book by Eric Metaxas.

But he goes back and forth. He comes to the United States. He sees faith in action, actually in Harlan. And kind of has this renewed kind of faith experience. He goes back to Germany. He's there for a while.

He knows now that Hitler is -- because he's helping Jews escape. And he knows Hitler is on it!

And he's going to -- he's closing in on him. He's going to get him. He leaves. He comes to the United States. He's here, and he starts feeling guilty. Like, I can't leave my own country. I have to stand! I can't leave and hide!

I've got to stand. So he goes back to Germany. I think on the last vote, that is going into Germany, and he gets to Germany. And he starts plotting Valkyrie. He's part of Project Valkyrie.

Valkyrie is the Tom Cruise movie you've seen, von Stauffenberg, a huge German hero, who was not a Nazi, but he was a German soldier who decided, "Oh, this has got to stop."

And they planned with a lot of people who said, "We've got to stop Hitler." Because look at what he's doing. He's destroying everything, and he's killing millions. And it's got to stop.

And Bonhoeffer, when he got back, he was wrestling with his pacifism. He was a pacifist. A strong one. He really believed that God said, no. No, fighting.

No war. Nothing.

You're not allowed to kill.

But the evil that he saw was so overwhelming, that he started questioning everything that he believed.

And ins class, because he would -- he was teaching these young pastors coming up. In his class, he started saying things to the class members, so if a pacifist saw something that was so evil, you needed to stop it, would it be okay?

And then they would argue. And the class didn't have any idea. He was working it out with the class in his own head.

He was working it out.

How do I work this.

How can I -- am I a Christian. If I do this.

He got to the point to where he said, if you knew of a pacifist, that you respected. And they did get involved in that. Would you still be their friend?

Would you still respect them?

Are they still Christians?

Okay. He's looking to work this out. And he struggled with it.
Hitler grabs him. Puts him in -- in prison.

He's in prison for a long time.

And the only reason why he survived as long as he did, he came from a very famous family.

And so Hitler really didn't feel like he had the juice to kill him. Without causing him other problems.

But he escaped for a while. And he was in prison. He wrote some beautiful stuff.

One of the most beautiful homilies on marriage, that I've ever read, is from him.

He was a guy who didn't get married.

He was going to get married.

But knew what was going to happen to him. But didn't want to endanger her, so he didn't get married. So he didn't know anything about marriage, except what he had read. What he thought about and read in Scriptures. And he writes this beautiful homily, because he's supposed to give the sermon at his sister's wedding. The Nazis won't let him out to do it. He writes it. It's read at her wedding. It's absolutely beautiful. And deep, deep, deep.

He's in prison for a while. He's now -- it's -- it's, you know, coming up to April 1945. Hitler dies in April 1945.

And everything is falling apart. And so the Nazis start kind of cleaning up the death camps. And they start transferring people. And -- and Bonhoeffer is supposed to be let free. And he gets on to this bus, you know, driven by the Nazis. And he's being transferred to where he will be released. Well, on the way, the tire goes out, and they don't have a spare. And so they're sitting on the edge of the road, and they got all these prisoners.

And these -- this other bus is coming. The other direction. And they're like, "Hey, where are you going?"

They said, "Well, we're going to this camp." Great. Will you just take these prisoners with you? Here's the paperwork and everything else.

Here's the prisoners. You just take them with you. So all the prisoners, who were there, including Bonhoeffer, who was supposed to be released, go to this other death camp. And now he's sitting there on this death camp and waiting for death.

And not supposed to be.

And in that, he is preaching Christ to the guy who did all of the experiments, on the Jews, you know, freezing them. Bringing them up, at high altitude. Until their his pop. All the horrible experiments.

Everything that is now in every hospital in the world.

The book about hypothermia and everything else.

It's the number one book on what the human body can do and how you fix things.

Number one.

It's in every hospital.

Every doctor has it. That was written by that Nazi.

He released it, without Hitler's permission. Because he thought it was such a gift to the world. And he went to prison. Because Hitler said, we're not trying to save the world. We're saving German soldiers.

Puts him in prison. The guy is a vile guy, as you can imagine. He's in, I think a French spy. This woman, she's a double agent. So they're in this cell, with Dietrich Bonhoeffer. And he's preaching to them. And they're just vile with each other, in front of him!

He keeps his cool. Keeps who he is.

Comes up to -- a couple of weeks before Hitler is going to kill himself. And they come, and they're going to execute everybody in that cell. So they go out, and the only reason why we know how Dietrich Bonhoeffer died and when he died is because of the way he acted. He went out. They took him out to the would see. And they had built a hanging platform. And one by one, they brought him up. Put the noose around their neck. Trapdoor. They died! Cut them down. Next one. Bring them up. Put the noose around their neck. Trap terror. Opens. They die!

Bonhoeffer, when he comes up, he comes up to the platform, and the guy who is putting the noose around his neck, he says, something like, thank you for your kindness.

Okay?

And the guy is like, what know.

Everybody else is freaking out. Everybody else is, you know.

And he says, "Thank you for your kindness."

He tightens the noose. Pulls the trapdoor. Dead.

He remembers that one guy. And remembers, that was Dietrich Bonhoeffer. I don't know if he knew who Dietrich Bonhoeffer was at the time.

But he knew him, because of that "thank you." He died like a very valiant man. Okay?

In a way, I don't know if I could. What is the difference between when you confront evil, when you see evil. I mean, Dietrich Bonhoeffer is the guy who said, "Silence in the face of evil is evil itself."

God will not hold us blameless.

Not to act is to act. Okay?

That comes from a deep, deep spiritual place.

What is the difference between that and Thomas Jefferson? Saying, "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God?"

Do you, as a Christian have a responsibility to kill Hitler, if you had the opportunity with not Baby Hitler. Baby Hitler hasn't committed any crime. You're seeing this death machine. And you've tried everything you can to stop it.

Do you have a responsibility as a Christian to stop the evil? I think you do! I think silence in the face of evil is evil itself.

Not to act, is to act. You know, for -- for evil to happen, it's -- it will happen when good men do nothing!

We know that. We have a responsibility to act. But we have a responsibility to do everything Christ-like that we can, first. But you get into this place, to where, you know, whoa unto those who call evil good and good evil.

Everybody starts to confuse the language. Right?

And that's what's happening right now. Everybody is calling everybody a fascist or Hitler.

Everybody calls everybody a Nazi. And so there's no meaning on words.

We can't forget what words actually mean or we will wind up calling good evil and evil good!

That's what happened to so many Christians.

They did nothing. They just went along with it. They just played along, and then it became them! Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a great, great man.

A Christian giant!

And a man who fought real evil, and wrestled with it!

We squabble on the internet. And I don't want to add to that.

All I want to do is make sure that we talk about the facts as they are, so we don't lose our way as everything gets jumbled.

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The RETURN of a Hidden Biblical Alien Race? | Timothy Alberino | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 274

What did Jesus really know about the Book of Enoch and the Nephilim giants? Does the Bible hint at “extraterrestrials” cohabiting with mankind in a forgotten golden age? Glenn Beck sits down with ‪@TimothyAlberino‬ for a mind-blowing conversation that connects the dots from Genesis 6 to the coming post-human apocalypse. As futurists like Yuval Harari openly declare the end of humanity, gene editing, artificial wombs, IVF, and transhumanism are rapidly remaking man in a new image. Alberino issues a chilling wake-up call to Christians: “There’s only one qualification for redemption at the cross of Christ — you must be human.” Are we about to sell our birthright for a bowl of stew and step into a nightmarish dystopian future where humanity itself becomes obsolete? Does transhumanism threaten our eternal salvation? Is our humanity worth preserving? Anchor yourself in the gospel — this explosive episode is a spiritual red alert you cannot afford to miss.

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Is giving $2000 checks to Americans a good idea?

President Trump has floated the idea of giving low- and middle-income Americans $2000 checks from the profits of his tariffs. But is this a good idea? Glenn and Stu debate…

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GLENN: Good, there's a couple of stories that I think, you know, are worth talking about.

The -- the tariff checks. Which I don't really like. We can talk about that. Also, there's new update on the Jeffrey Epstein thing, that I don't know what it means.

STU: Which one -- where do you want to start? Let me ask you a couple of questions, the 2,000-dollar stimulus check, or the 50-year mortgage idea? Which one is -- if you had to pick one, which one would you pick?

GLENN: If I had to pick one, I would pick the 2,000-dollar tariff check.

STU: Really?

GLENN: I think I would pick the 50-year mortgage. To me, the 50-year mortgage should be available, if some bank wants to offer it. I don't know what the government has to do with any of this.

If a bank wants to say, hey, 50-year mortgage, here you go.

Take that risk. Trust someone will pay you back for 50 years. Okay!

GLENN: I want the money. I want the money.

STU: You want the money?

I've got now for you, Glenn, you're not going to be in the category that receives that money, you'll be paying for it, not receiving it.

GLENN: I'll never get it. Yeah.

STU: But, no. Neither one of those two stories are -- are my favorites. And --

GLENN: Yeah. I don't like -- I don't want to be writing checks.

You know, I don't want to be -- you know, the money is never really the money. It's never -- it's not that we have excess. You know, we've got -- whatever he says. $3 billion. Great. Can we apply that directly to the debt? How about that one?

But he knows he's in trouble. He knows he's in trouble. He can't turn the economy around as quickly as he did the last time.

It's not 2016 anymore. And so, you know, everybody was expecting and voting for him to turn things around. And the price of gas has gone down. The price of eggs have gone down. But you're still -- now we're at 3 percent inflation. Well, okay.

What about going the other direction?

Getting prices down to where they were in 2020?

And gas has done that. But verify other things have done that.

STU: And I think, understandably, it's a central part of his platform.

The tariffs have been a big focus.

He's talked a lot about it. It's also one of those things that, you know, there's a lot of disagreement on.

So I think that's where he's drawn, right? That's him. He likes being in the fight.

He likes being out there talking about these things.

GLENN: Yep. Yep.

STU: So that, I think has -- because it's not a particularly popular issue. He's made it his economic approval ratings, be more difficult, I think. And I think people are feeling, you know, some of the stuff, being echoes from previous administration.

You know, with the spending, and everything else. That's still the major cause of price increases, not tariffs, as of yet.

Some of that, you know, isn't helpful as well.

You try to throw two thousands of individuals dollars to people.

Again, I don't know that that will pass.

You can't just do it.

That's not something that he can just do on his own. He can't just hand out thousands of dollars in checks, I don't think.

GLENN: I hope not.

STU: I haven't seen a financial justification for that, so I don't think that's what he's even planning.

I'm sure he's planning on trying to get something passed to do that, if that comes up. But you're right. We don't have the money.

You know, I don't -- I'm not a person who wants to solve our debt problems with increased, quote, unquote, revenues to government.

I don't think that's the correct way to do it.

But if you have those revenues, just, things are going great, you get more money in.

You're right. I would rather have that dished out toward the debt. At least as long as there is a long-term plan to address it.

I don't know that paying, you know, 1 percent or 2 percent of our debt off, is even better than honestly just dishing out a bunch of money to people.

But I will say, it is what we would refer to as a -- you think it's a -- there's wealth.

It is going from one place to another.

And we are redistributing, and that is what is occurring here.

It used to be something we had a big problem with. It's just, again, something he threw out, maybe it's not even a hard-core proposal.

But we should be concerned about going down that path, long-term.

GLENN: What is -- what is he going to do? Honestly, what can he do?

STU: Well, we talked about this a little bit yesterday. And one thing we didn't get a chance to get to. That I would love to get your thoughts on, is I think this is one of the reasons he's really embraced going all in on AI. I think he sees this, and the opportunity of leading the world in AI, as a way to grow the economy out of the problems that we're facing here, and that's usually his approach. You think that's part of it?

GLENN: Oh, it's always his approach.

Yeah, I think that's 100 percent what it is. He's been convinced that this is the future.
And, you know, if that works, and we're the leader in it, then we will grow our way out.

Because of the taxes and the jobs and everything else.

And we could dwarf through, you know, a really robust economy. We could grow and grow and grow.

Where even just this debt, it doesn't seem so bad.

That's absolutely his plan. But that's a long way away, getting there.

Did you see the story in Texas about the -- the server farm that's all built, ready to go?

They're still working on the power plant. But they have all the permits. And they're actually building the power plant. Did you see that?

STU: No.

GLENN: In Texas. They don't have anybody taking it yet.

STU: What do you mean? They built a server farm with no company attached to it?

GLENN: No company attached to it. Texas is -- and it's not a Texas thing. It's, you know, a bunch of billionaire Texans. They're like, we'll build you a severer farm.

And so they're building these buildings with power plants. Because they want all of them to be in Texas.

And they're saying, don't panic. But you would think that there would there would have been takers for that immediately. And, you know, it's been offered, and nobody has snapped it up, yet.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: That concerns me a bit.

STU: Obviously, there's a lot of economic considerations as to -- you have to figure out what the cost is, and there's a lot to consider there.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: But it's interesting. I mean, there is a theory, that this is really going to be a bubble, and we're going to see a situation like we did in 2000, where the internet kind of blew up on everybody. And it's not that AI. The internet never came. Right?

It's certainly a big part of our lives. Maybe all of your life. If I happen to be under the age of 30 or so.

The internet came. It did change the world.

But it took a while. And we had a collapse before it really did what everyone was promising what it was going to do.

GLENN: So I told you yesterday, I'm reading 1929. The new book.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: 1929. It is fabulous.

You've got to listen to it. Or read it.

It's just fabulous.

But they're describing what the exuberance was like in 1929.

And how, you know, it's never going to go down. It's never going to go down.

Do you know?

Look at all the things on the horizon.

Look at all the technology that's happening. Look at the people that are moving in.

We have so many cars. And so many refrigerators to sell. And everything is changing. And it's just up and up and up and up. And everybody bought into it.

I mean, it was -- I knew the run-up to the crash of '29 was bad with exuberance. I had no idea it was this bad.

I mean, they were openly calling it stock gambling.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: People were -- people were taking money, borrowing money.

And then they would invest it in a company. But they would watch it as it would go during the day. And they would make several trades, you know, in a week. Because I hear this one is hot. And we'll gain a little here. Then we'll pull it out. And put money here.

I mean, it was gambling. It was literally gambling. And it was just consuming everybody. And the real problem is the banks decides that they would give loans for playing the stock market. And so all of these banks are just so over-leveraged. And I kind of feel like that's what it is here. You know, we're really excited about the future of AI. Some of us are also equally as terrified. But it is going to happen. I just don't know how it's going to happen, and when it's going to happen.

And there just seems to be so much money sloshing around in the system.

And we don't even have the power units.

You see, there's another server farm that's just been built.

And it's sitting empty.

It's been sitting empty for a while.

It's in California. A, nobody wants to build a server farm in California. B, they didn't connect it to its own power plant.

So California, you can't put -- really?

You're going to suck all that energy, when you really have brownouts?

And then the server farms will just go down every once in a while?

That's completely unworkable.

STU: Let me interrupt real quick, from Gavin Newsom, 2028.

I mean, there's never been a man more clearly running for President, and also, you know, this is a guy, we need people to be aware of what it's like in California. And what they're dealing with there.

You're right. It would be insane. To build these types of facilities there. Knowing what California will likely do to you.

You're right. I think we both have the same concerns on AI.

There's a lot of that, that comes along with it.

But, you know, there is a lot of promise as well.

There will probably be really good developments that come out of it.

It will take over the world, and do all the major things that they say, they will do, along with a lot of really terrible ones just like the i Phone.

But, you know, the bad there is not -- it's not linear. It's not this wonderful upswing. Something is going to happen.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: And you look at the way our economy is structured right there. Wow, the bet is big on AI. I mean, it's really the only bet anyone is making right now.

GLENN: I know. Can I switch topics here for a second?

Sotheby's is having a -- a big auction. And something really, really important in the art world is going up for sale.

It is a solid 18-carat gold toilet.

Now, not the toilet that you might have heard before. That one was stolen. They never found it. It's just the gold is worth $10 million.

It's going up for sale. This artist, he's some, you know, cultural phenomena according to Sotheby's. He took gold, melted it down, and made it into a gold throne. Okay?

Apparently, it's a statement on the excess of capitalism. Yeah.

But I think the real statement isn't in the art. I think the real statement is in us.

You know, have you ever heard of Duchamp, Stu?

He was an artist in the 1920s. And he did a -- a urinal. And he was making fun of the art world.

And he just took a urinal out of -- out of a men's restroom and then put it on the wall and called it art. And he was mocking the art world. Mocking them, saying, you know, you're -- you call anything art.

And, you know, as long as you like it, then it goes up on value. Well, the art world critics decided, well, two can play that game. We love that. That is art. That is beautiful art.

And it became one of the most famous art pieces around. Now they're doing it with the toilet. Which should just tell everybody, you know, this whole thing is a con.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: It's a con. The art world is a con.

STU: And this comes from the 100th most important person in the world of art.

GLENN: Thank you.

STU: As named by Art something magazine, several years ago. Glenn Beck.

GLENN: Yeah. My favorite magazine.

STU: It was Art something magazine. But you ever notice how a lot of statements against capitalism end up in the person making the statement with a lot of money?

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: That seems to happen a lot.

GLENN: I have noticed that. I have noticed that. Wow.

STU: It's like all these Hollywood movies that make these grand statements against capitalism wind up lining their pockets with millions of dollars. It's so strange how that happens.

GLENN: Yeah, but they hate it. And they hate themselves when they have to spend it.

They just hate themselves.

You know, this artists, he just hates capitalism. But somehow or another. He got enough.

Remember, the last toilet sold for the same.

So the last toilet was like $10 million. So he had $10 million. Then that toilet was stolen.
And so he's made another one, with another ten million dollars' worth of gold.

So this starving artist, somehow or another has coughed up $20 million to bake two gold toilets. But he hates capitalism and rich people.

They're just so horrible.