RADIOFebruary 14, 2025

Did Fauci Orchestrate the Pandemic? New Documentary EXPOSES ALL

A few years ago, Glenn reviewed all the evidence that Dr. Fauci’s gain-of-function research may have contributed to the creation of the COVID-19 pandemic. Now, fellow BlazeTV host Matt Kibbe says we have found the “smoking gun.” Kibbe joins Glenn to discuss Episode 4 of his docuseries, “The Coverup,” which exposes how Fauci’s sketchy research has weaponized viruses, supposedly in the name of “biosecurity.” Plus, Kibbe explains why Biden gave Fauci a blanket pardon going all the way back to 2014, why Fauci was so obsessed with gain-of-function research and “The Science,” and how former NIH director Francis Collins is also involved in this scandal.

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GLENN: We welcome, Mr. Matt Kibbe. Hello, Matt.

MATT: Hey, Glenn.

GLENN: So you -- I can't even imagine what this documentary costs. It's really, really good. And we're up to episode number four, the Cover-up.

MATT: Yes.

GLENN: And this is the one where it all is laid out, crystal clear. With all of the evidence. And it was so satisfying for me to watch. Because we had some of this evidence when I did a special four years ago. And you could connect the dots. You could see it. But a lot of it wasn't there. You had to take a leap of faith that, yes. That dot and that dot, they're only missing the connecting dot that I can't prove right now. You have all of the connecting dots.

My wife, who doesn't really get into these things usually, we were watching it last night.

And she watched it. And I can't tell you how many times she went, oh, my gosh.

Oh, you've got -- what?

I mean, Fauci, I believe thinks he's God.

It is astounding, how long he's been involved in this.

And how much power he has.

Take us from the beginning of this episode.

MATT: It's almost unbelievable, right? When you watch this.

If we didn't have the receipts, you would think, you're just going all Alex Jones here.

GLENN: Yeah. Which, by the way, Alex Jones is starting to make more and more sense.

MATT: Right. Right. I say that as a compliment at this point. Because he warned us about so much of this. And this starts with my very first conversation with Jay Bhattacharya. And he casually mentioned to me on my show, the first time I interviewed him, that this explosion of funding for gain-of-function research happened after 9/11.

And my -- and that -- that stuck with me ever since.

And what Richard Ebright documents in this series is the origins of Fauci's power. Origins of the money. The origins of this mad science experiment that we were going to sort of weaponize viruses. Supposedly in the name of bio security.

And it starts with Dick Cheney who has an obsession about the -- the limits to -- to the government's ability to develop bioweapons agents. Again, ostensibly to keep us safe.

GLENN: Okay. Go ahead.

So it's frustrating to watch this twisted logic. There is no reason to do this gain-of-function research over and over and over again.

Fauci had been asked, and he never answered the question. And all scientists agree, it -- it cannot be you. You do not have to do this to find an antidote to do this.

And that's the one thing I was left thinking. I mean, is this almost an Operation Paper Clip Nazi kind of, we have the power to create this evil stuff, that could wipe out all of humanity? Let's do it.

MATT: Yeah. It reminds me of a more evil version of nation building. This arrogance that says, we could airdrop into another country and teach them Western values and teach them about our Constitution, and suddenly there's property rights and there's rule of law. And it works! And it doesn't work.

It's a form of central planning, right? It's a form of hubris. And this takes it one step forward because you're trying to reimagine nature itself. You're trying to reengineer nature.

It starts with Cheney. You can go back with Nixon, who signed a bioweapons treaty that said we weren't going to do it.

And this is what Dick Cheney was chasing against. And DOD. And these other defense agencies had an office, in their agencies, that said -- that made sure that they didn't violate that treaty. But USAID, NIAID, NIH do not have compliance offices.

So it's a money-laundering scheme, to do these mad science experiments, that they couldn't do legally otherwise. And now, you know, Elon is revealing all of this. You've been talking about this for years.

It's a really, really evil, arrogant thing that happened.

GLENN: Oh, evil. Evil.

You know, when you see Fauci doubling down, and doubling down

Because he's been called on it for years. And most people don't remember it.

It was from the New York Times. And the Washington Post. For years. The things that he was responsible for.

I mean, the bird flu. How many chickens did we have to kill, Pat? What was that?

PAT: 145 million. It was 2022.

GLENN: 145 million chickens. You want to know why the price of eggs is up? That's why!

MATT: Panicide.

GLENN: Yeah. So we're killing them all. Why are we? What happened?

If I'm not mistaken, I learned last night, in watching the cover-up, that that's Fauci too!

MATT: Right. There's more experiments that we know about.

But the ones that Ben, start with -- so Cheney and Fauci. And Fauci gets this huge pay raise to be the czar of gain-of-function research.

And one of his first projects was to re-create the Spanish flu. Which did not exist on the planet earth.

They actually dug up a body and re-created it from scratch. And then they published how to do it in a science journal. And Congress rightfully said, are you insane?

Fauci gets called in. And this is the first of many times, he says, it's worth the risk.

I've decided. It's worth the risk.

And the firestorm goes away.

And then there's various wild experiments with -- with the bird flu. That come very close to catastrophic leaks. Out of labs.

Because every time that Fauci gets called before Congress, he says, we're going to up security.

We're going to develop protocols. We're going to really focus on safety. But they never really do it.

GLENN: No. In fact, it seems to get worse every time.

MATT: Yeah. It gets worse because the program expands and expands. It's like -- it's like this crazy quilt of countries and universities now that are doing this kind of research.

GLENN: And doing it in Ukraine! Ukraine!

MATT: Yeah. It's -- I mean, it will be the end of us, if we don't stop it.

And that's -- that's why I'm obsessed, and that's why Ebright is obsessed. That's why Rand Paul is obsessed.

And you mentioned this, but it's fascinating to point out. Everyone is like, why did Biden give Fauci a blank check going back to 2014?

GLENN: Uh-huh. Why?

MATT: And this is well-documented in this episode. Because starting in 2015 is when Fauci and Francis Collins, the head of the NIH, started willfully ignoring the law against gain-of-function research, explicitly on coronaviruses.

GLENN: So here is my -- here is my only question, and I think I have the answer. Why would Fauci do this?

There was like literally almost every scientist saying, don't do this. There's no reason for this.

And he just keeps going into the most dangerous things we possibly can.

Why?

MATT: He's. If you know his history. He's the consummate apparatchik.

And when Dick Cheney goes to him. And says, I have this idea.

And Fauci's answer, I wasn't there.

But Fauci surely said, hold my beer. I'll do that. If you're going to give me all that and money power, I will do it.

If I have a chance to reimagine nature, I'm up for that task. And he's written about it.

I keep quoting this article that he and his now probably going to jail partner David Morin wrote a piece himself, in 2020, talking about bending modernity and reimagining how we live our lives from where we live, to how we travel, to how we gather.
So he has this God complex.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

MATT: And I don't know if he had it when he said yes. He may have been a good bureaucrat. Lots of money. I can grow my power.

You can pay me a lot more.

But in that echo chamber over the next 20 years, where every scientist -- I mean, you went from the scientific community blowing the whistle and saying, this is crazy.

It gets a little quieter every time that Fauci is caught doing something. Because at some point, they're all on the payroll. And if you want to stick your neck out, like Richard Ebright did, you might lose all of your NIH grants.

You might lose your university position because your university is addicted to all of this gain of function funding.

So they -- they have bought and paid for science itself. And corrupted the process to the point where, we shouldn't trust the science.

Because it is not science. It is this mad science, arrogant project.

GLENN: When Fauci said disagreeing with me, is disagreeing with science.

Was that a God complex?

Or was that a, I fund all the science.

Go ahead, disagree all you want, but I control the science.

MATT: And I think it's both. And I do think that when Rand Paul started questioning him, he had never, ever faced someone that was both skeptical and informed. And so he's been able to BS is his way past senators and congressmen.

Because you can sort of throw a bunch of words and science-y stuff at them.

And you can change the definition of gain of function research.

And virtually no one except for a few people that have either done their research or have been following him, have any idea that he's just lying to you.

So I think -- I think it was both. At that point. He was in his own mind, the God of science.

But he also wasn't used to people questioning his authority.

GLENN: Like I said, when I first started talking about this, today, my wife and I watched it last night.

And she gasped several times. So did I.

And you won't believe it. I mean, just talking about it here, does not do this justice.

In seeing what Fauci has done and what we're dealing with now, all over the world, and how it is still growing, it -- it -- you will -- you will be saying to president Trump and RFK and Bhattacharya and everybody else, arrest this man. Stop this, right now.

Because like you said, you know how I feel about AI.

That is -- that is -- we're just -- that's nitroglycerin in a paint shaker. Hey, let's give that a whirl.

This is probably closer to killing us right now. Because all it takes is one mistake.

And any of these crazy labs. And nobody is talking about it.

Nobody is admitting it.

It's got to be -- it has to be completely exposed. Every name needs to come out. There needs to be punishments for it. And all of it, burnt in an incinerator.

MATT: Yeah.

And it will be a lot like the nuclear weapons arsenal. And this is something that Dr. Ebright talks about as well. The risk grows exponentially as you expand the program.

Because if you have a couple of universities. If you have a couple of labs doing this, you know where it is.

GLENN: Right.

MATT: But now, it's all over the place.

GLENN: Right. And you've got all these people. Somebody mad. Somebody disgruntled. Somebody just stupid.

Somebody, you know, makes a mistake. Every time this program grows.

MATT: Yeah. By the way. And this is something we also talk about. The anthrax attacks.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

MATT: Which conveniently happened one month after 9/11.

Well, we eventually learned, or at least are told that it was, in fact, a government-financed lab, that had access to anthrax.

GLENN: Yeah.

MATT: That allegedly caused this, which paved the way for all of this funding that we're talking about.

It wasn't just the Patriot Act. It was additional legislation that massively expanded the money that Fauci would get control of.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist. But oddly enough, the guy that was accused of doing that, committed suicide before he could be prosecuted.

GLENN: Yeah. I know.

That stood out to me yesterday too.

Glenn Beck SLAMS Krugman: Chinese Slave Labor Over US Jobs?!

Glenn tears into economist Paul Krugman’s recent Substack article, “Making Sweatshops Great Again,” which laments Donald Trump’s plan to bring manufacturing back to the United States. Of course, we should manufacture things like computer chips in the US, as Krugman insists. But what’s wrong with bringing sneaker and textile manufacturing back? Would Krugman rather child slaves in China continue making them?

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GLENN: Paul Krugman writes, on Manhattan's Seventh Avenue near the corner of 39th Street, there's a larger than life statue of a garment worker, a man wearing a skull cap, hunched over a sewing machine. The statue is a tribute to the locale's history.

It stands in the middle of what's still called the Garment District! After all, in 1950, New York's apparel industry employed 340,000 workers, but that industry is gone now. Not just from midtown Manhattan, but from the United States as a whole!

Having moved to low wage countries, like China, and increasingly Bangladesh. No serious person mourns the off-shoring of the apparel employment.

I do! As someone who would like to wear American clothing, who has tried to help save the Cohen denim company, which made the best denim in the world. They're out. You know why? Can't afford to make it here. You know why? Because we offshored everything. You know why? Because we're stupid, that's why. So I actually do mourn that, but I don't really count in Paul's world, but I digress. For a poor nation like Bangladesh, apparel jobs are a big step up from the alternatives. Even in our heyday, mostly, it only employed immigrants, who despite being represented by powerful unions were paid low wages.

And often faced harsh working conditions. Oh. Wait a minute.

So wait a minute. Let me see if I can get this right. What about your insistence of keeping people here, because they will work for low-paying jobs. You remember jobs Americans won't do. So are you now saying, we will want to get rid of all those low-paying jobs that all Americans won't do? I mean, I'm not with you, Paul.

I'm just trying to understand your reasoning here. I mean, have you changed your mind on that? Is there no one in America that would gladly take a sewing job over scrubbing toilets in a hotel?

Nobody. As I said, no serious person wants the apparel industry to come back. Again, but Donald Trump's economic team aren't serious people.

This come from the biggest clown of my lifetime. Last week, Howard Lutnick, the Commerce Secretary went on CNBC to explain that Trump's tariffs will bring back US production of T-shirts and sneakers and towels.

The host just started laughing at him, because we know when we all know better than he does. And there's no reason to believe that he -- he or his boss think this was a joke. And their nostalgia for industries in the past, seems to be matched by surprising hostility towards the industries of the future.

Oh, okay. All right. Now, we're starting to get good. Again, our hard-working dishwashers. Fruit pickers. Lawn maintenance. Or service style jobs. For people just like you, Paul, that will hire people at a lower wage because they're illegal, and you can get away with anything that you want.

Oops. I mean, you can help them achieve the American dream. Are these jobs nostalgic?

Because with the onset of AI in the next few years, I think they are! But wait. I'm hostile towards AI?

I'm confused, but Krugman goes on.

Now the Trumpiest view of international trade pretty much begins and ends with a view that whenever Americans buy something made abroad, no matter how much cheaper it is, it may be to import a good, rather than try to produce it domestically. And that's a win for foreigners and a loss for America.

No. Paul!

God, you're stupid.

Products that are more inexpensive. Or that are inexpensive, are always a win for Americans. Always. Unless it completely guts our ability as a country to stand on our own.

Also, why should we give so much money to the biggest slave owner country the world has ever known?

Message to you progressives, America is not so bad. Compared to what China is doing currently!

Now, instead of standing up to them, you know, we -- we just want to be independent, so we can!

And I would like to live without the slave labor of some of these countries.

You know, if we're making sneakers here in the US, at least it wouldn't be a line full of children, spraying, you know, led paint on Nike shoes, like it's most likely happening away from our shores. But I digress. Again, by shipping our jobs to China, Paul. Buying our i Phone and socks from China. Are you not doing the same things the elites like you did before and during and even after the Civil War? Well, it will hurt the economy!

We've got -- jobs here in America on our American assembly lines actually allow people to afford college for the next generation or even themselves, to better their stations. Even though you have done everything you can to destroy our universities through your horrible progressive ideas.

And, you know, through government subsidies that you have raised the cost of college.

You know, since we got into the business of getting loans for colleges, guaranteeing those loans. In 1963, tuition was an adjusted -- inflation adjusted $2,487. Now it's almost $10,000. That's an increase of 292 percent. Four times the cost, in real dollars, that was in 1963!

What happened? What changed?

What changed?

He continues. I mean, Trump has slapped high tariffs on Canadian aluminum, which is cheap, because smelting uses a lot of electricity. And Canada has a lot of abundant hydropower, and aluminum is important for US manufacturing. Yet, Trump somehow thinks Canada is exploiting us, by offering us a key industrial import at a good price.

But back to T-shirts and sneakers. We definitely shouldn't be making those for ourselves.

But what should we be making instead?

Well, here's what we are going to be making, Paul. Nothing. We're not going to make anything.

Unless, we have a hard-working, well-educated, motivated workforce, with cheap energy, and the cutting of crazy regulation. In which companies can afford to grow and build.

And want to come here. Because we have the best conditions. And the best labor. And the cheapest energy.

That's what made America, America.

But what you have done, you have killed the well-educated with your support of the teachers unions. And everybody else controlling EDU. You want an example. Just check what you were saying, while our children were out of school, during COVID. Because of your support.

You know, next thing that you cut was the motivated by advocating for higher taxes. More red tape. Plus, out of control labor unions.

You know, where the lazy and the corrupt, they think can't be fired. Can't be fired. You killed motivation.

Well-educated. You killed that one. The motivated, you killed that one. You killed that one. Because not only the red tape. But with DEI and ESG, and CRT programs. You also teach everybody, you'll never make it without us. Why try?

You've killed everything. And do I need to even remind you of your anti-cheap energy lectures? And you love the growth. Energy regulation. Because, oh, my gosh, we have to get rid of our -- we have to get rid of our hydroelectric power here. And take those dams down. Because that's so colonial.

Oh, my gosh.

I can't take this guy. What free trade purist would answer, whatever the market decides, let private firms decide what's profitable in America. And even if you're not a free trade purist. You have to admit the government doesn't have a great record of picking winners.

Oh, my gosh, have you just admitted this out loud, without even knowing this? Your support for the Green New Deal!

Your support for things like, I don't know, Solyndra. Did I miss an op-ed, where you're like, boy, that was a mistake?

Yet I, like many economists, have come around to The View. Listen to this one. This is his big announcement. That maybe we should engage in a limited amount of industrial policy, using subsidies.

Oh, wow!

Paul, the heavens have opened up for you.

You have finally come around to the idea of government subsidies. How refreshing from you.

What a shock. What an unbelievable turnaround for you. You mean to tell me, you've gone from a supporter of the public private partnerships. The green nigh deal that just funds entire sectors.

Big government programs.

To now somebody who can -- who can finally embrace the idea of government bailing out failures.

Wow!

Making partners with private corporations. With our government using the little guy's tax dollars, to give to the billion dollar companies.

Money from the average person. The average working man and woman. Right to the billionaire. Wow, you have come so far, Paul!

You really have!

Good for you. You know, there are two big reasons. Limited industrial policies, back in vogue.

That word isn't even in vogue.

One is that it's become increasingly clear that there are important positive spillovers, between technology firms, Silicon Valley is now more than the sum of the individual companies, located in south of San Francisco.

It's kind of an industrial ecosystem of shared services. A pool of skilled workers. And an exchange of knowledge!

Oh! Paul, you mean like every other industry, somehow?

But this one is different?

I mean, other than Silicon Valley being originally funded by the DOD, CIA, and the federal government, how is this different?

You know, again, other than it was the greatest concentration of wealth, perhaps ever in the history of man.

Think of that. Silicon Valley, probably the greatest collection of wealth in the history of all mankind, we've got to get the government in there to help those poor, starving billionaires.

The -- aren't these the titans. The billionaires. Are they somehow different than the titan and billionaires that have to pay their fair share.

And who are unelected fascists like Elon Musk.

I mean, I'm so confused, Paul.

Are you now admitting that Elon Musk alone is capable of creating, quote, an industrial ecosystem of shared services? A pool of skilled workers. And with his willingness and action, not to patent technology. But to release it. To help the planet.

Is he an important force, that for an exchange of knowledge, it -- wouldn't he be one of those?

If we want America to be competitive and high-tech, we need government policies to encourage the formation of these industrial ecosystems. In other grimmer reasons, we need industrial policy because of geopolitics.

Circa 2010. Listen to this. Circa 2010. No, not many people worried about how much of the world's production of advanced semiconductors, which are now crucial to almost everything, was concentrated in Taiwan. No, Paul!

You weren't! In 2010, you couldn't see over the horizon. You know that quote from Paul Krugman, that you gave me earlier? About the internet.

I mean, you were the one that wasn't concerned about semiconductors and high-powered chips.

STU: 1998. The growth of the internet will slow drastically, as the flaw in Metcalf's law, which states that the number of potential connections in a network is proportional to the squared number of participants becomes apparent.

Most people have nothing to say to each other. By 2005 or so, it will become clear that the internet's impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machines. That's so good.

GLENN: Well, forget about that.

Now we know the age of large-scale warfare isn't over! And it's dangerous to rely on crucial products and industrial clusters easily threatened by potential adversaries. That -- just that paragraph.

Just that paragraph -- just that, Paul, proves everything else you've said in your stupid op-ed, to be absolutely the opposite.

Or may I just say, duh!

And duh! These realizations lay behind one of the Biden administrations two major pieces of industrial policy legislation. The Chips and Science Act, designed to encourage production, unlike the Inflation Reduction Act, which sought to use industrial policy to fight climate change! Climate change.

The Chips Act has had a substantial bipartisan support. Yeah, it did. It did. As did slavery in the 1800s. As did the rounding of the Japanese under another progressive president.

In fact, wow. So did men can actually be women? Just a couple of years ago. It doesn't make it true, Paul. Even though in an era of intense partisanship, a significant number of Republicans were willing to back the effort, but during his speech to Congress last week, Trump veered off into a demand that Congress would repeal that act.

It's not clear what he has against the Chips Act. Although, according to the New York Times, many semi conductor companies attribute his hostility simply to personal animus to former President Biden.

Yeah. You can't think of another thing, that might make him against the Chip Act.

It's weird, Paul.

I went to an expert, I trust more than you. Grok!

And asked it, besides personal animus, why might the president be against the Chips Act? I'll share that answer with you, Paul.

I can't figure out, other than his personal animus against former President Biden, why he would be against the Chips Act. Uh-huh.

Thank you, Paul Krugman. So I just went to Grok, and I said, is there another reason besides personal animus, that President Trump might be against the Chips Act?

Here's what Grok told me today. Cost, and perceived wastefulness.

Trump has described that the Chips Act is a horrible, horrible thing, that involves giving hundreds of billions of dollars to companies without sufficient return.

From this perspective, he might view the $52.7 billion in subsidies, plus additional lending authority. As an inefficient use of taxpayer money.

If his goal is to save America, he could argue these funds might be better directed elsewhere.

Two, preference over tariffs for subsidies. Trump has constantly advocated for tariffs as a tool to incentive domestic manufacturing, claiming they could achieve the same outcome as the Chips Act, bringing the semiconductor to the United States without the government spending any tax dollars.

Let me point to Taiwan's semiconductor manufacturing company. Increasing its US investment. As evidence that these tariffs, or the threat of them are working.

From his viewpoint, this approach avoids handing out money to wealthy corporations. Aligning with a belief that market pressure is a more sustainable way to bolster American industry.

Three, skepticism of corporate giveaways. I don't know.

Paul, that sounds like something that you would say, as you're shipping your country -- right there, on the porch in your rocking chair. Thinking, I'm so smart!

“15 Smoking Guns”: Is Mahmoud Khalil a THREAT to America?

The Left and Legacy Media insist that anti-Israel activist Mahmoud Khalil, a green card holder who helped organize protests at Columbia University in the wake on the Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas attack on Israel, is just “supporting Palestine.” But Capital Research Center Investigative Researcher Ryan Mauro argues that the evidence is clear: he poses an actual threat to Americans’ safety and should be deported. Ryan lists 15 “smoking guns” that Khalil and his activist group, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, support taking radical action against Western civilization. They seem to have an affinity for arson, his group called for a repeat of the Oct. 7 attack on US soil, and one group in the coalition even declared itself a literal part of Hamas.

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GLENN: Ryan, welcome to the program, how are you? Right, hey, it's great to be with you.

GLENN: It's great to be with you. This is an amazing article, the 15 smoking guns, that show, this guy is clearly a terrorist threat.

I think I got to number three, and I'm reading this. Like, how is this even an argument? How this guy even here, still? Honestly, why isn't he even in jail, here in America? Can we go through these, one by one?

RYAN: Yeah, absolutely. And I think -- I would preface this by saying, honestly, we're thankful that he's deported, and we can all applaud that. But we shouldn't necessarily be impressed by that.
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GLENN: It is a pretty low bar here.

RYAN: It is. And the fact that the Trump administration hasn't involved to any degree that I'm aware of. Those are the monitored groups. That's why I have this information available. They came out with this, and kind of got put on the defensive. And now Mohamed Kahlil, a group he's a part of that we will talk about, is more powerful than ever. All the pro-Hamas seditionist groups are fundraising off of this.

GLENN: This is crazy.

RYAN: And this is -- they didn't work with those to justify what they were doing. They just kind of did it.

GLENN: Okay. So let me take this point by point with you.

First point, Kahlil's group seeks to incite and carry out terrorism on US soil, including copying the October 7th atrocities.

RYAN: Yeah. So the group that he is a leader of, Columbia University apartheid. Which is actually a coalition of 100 student groups.

They post odd their social media base. Multiple times, that they were telling their comrades, involved in this little intifada. Primarily to the United States.

They talk about Israel. To, quote, look to the tactics of the Palestinian resistance, which were inspired action, and to rise like a flood. When they think flood, what they're doing, is they're referring to the October 7th attacks because Hamas refers to it as Operation Jerusalem Flood.

So that's how that would be interpreted. October 7th, good idea, for US soil.

GLENN: Number two, his group praised the October 7th attacks and Islamist-backed violent uprisings in Bangladesh as part of the global intifada against American imperialism.

JASON: Right. So they view themselves as part of a global intifada that is both Marxist, Communist, actually some anarchist elements, and Islamist. It's all one thing.

They view this as a part of a network.

GLENN: His group said, quote, we must genuinely threaten the state, I imagine that's America.

So much, we are killed, jailed, tortured, disappeared, and targeted in America. End quote.

RYAN: I think they -- the goal is doing that. To approve a sacrifice. They called it to achieve liberation in America. What they're doing, they and their comrades talk about, they refer to America as turtle islands. And basically, if a native -- what they're saying, just as they want to replace Israel with an Arab state of Palestinian, their goal is to replace the United States with a Native American state of Turtle Island.

GLENN: Give me a break. First of all, can we just -- I'm sorry to do this here. But let me --

RYAN: Go for it.

GLENN: Can we stop with the Native Americans were so much better than every other human being alive?

They were humans.

They were warring all the time, just like every other race and group of people. They were enslaving. If they didn't kill you in war, they enslaved you after war.

Please, can we stop!

Humans are humans. This -- this ridiculous -- well, these were Native Americans. And so they were perfect.

Shut up!

Grab a book. Read a little history. Okay. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

RYAN: No. Thank you, for saying that. Especially -- a lot of these people, they hate religion.

But they model the characterization of Native-Americans on Jesus Christ.

When you look at, they describe it as a gay man. And Native Americans have decided. Because they were pure. They were killed by capitalism. But anyway --

GLENN: So is there any -- I mean, are people that stupid, that they think, that a Marxist, communist, Islamist group is going to hand over America?

To the Native American nations?

Are they that -- I mean, really?

RYAN: I mean, watching the way the protesters talk on their personal social media pages.

A lot of this is performative.

GLENN: Yeah.

RYAN: And it's more about they feel scared for the future. For legitimate reasons. They feel there's no safety net. They feel no one is coming to help them.

So they drive to which ever group is talking about the most far sweeping change.

It's not what they're -- and then saying, oh, that's a great idea. Let me join that group. It's more, I'm scared, because my God, what am I going to do? I don't know if I can -- and they speak the language, and they bring them in.

GLENN: Number four, Kahlil's group called for attacking the military and the police, en masse. And dismantling the state infrastructure, assuming it's America.

RYAN: Yeah. And you can tell. Because on a lot of these posts, these are several together. So they do keep bringing them back to America.

They will cite the violence in Bangladesh, or what Hamas did as an example to follow.

So that particular post, after going over and praising the Bangladesh were attacking the police and military and surveillance state.

They have the obligation to beat them there. After saying, this is -- they escalated in this way.

GLENN: So if this isn't -- if this hasn't been bad enough for you to shut the pie hole. To say, this guy, he's just a freedom fighter. There's no hope for you. Let me go on. Number six. Kahlil's group seeks the eradication of Western civilization!

RYAN: Yeah. I mean, what more can you say? It's right there. And they talk about burning a lot of things down, too. You'll notice that patterns throughout these points. The example they gave is a lot of burning down prisons, burn down this, burn that.

They're a big fan of anarchists. Or arsonists. Arsonist terrorists.

GLENN: I have a former Prime Minister of England, Liz Trust coming in, today, for a show. And I can't wait to talk to her because I would like to hear her opinion on, what the hell is wrong with all of you people over in Europe, and in England.

How do they not see that they're going to be an Islamic state, if they don't turn this around, right now.

And it may be too late.

I mean, how -- how are we missing this in the West.

RYAN: I think, part of it, is that there's an ability to recognize the degree to which all of the extremes, all the seditionist elements are kind of coming together.

It seems like, in people's minds. They're in separate boxes.

How the Islamists -- sad, but it's not that high.

GLENN: Oh.

RYAN: They're not putting together the anarchists. The white nationalists are increasingly in there. You put it all together, and you rook at the polls that show how many people support them and you add them up, then you will see the totality of the problem.

GLENN: Gosh.

Number seven, Kahlil's group asked violent extremists abroad for help in organizing uprising.

Number eight, his group asked for help from militants in the global south, in achieving its goal of eradicating western civilization. And fighting the fascism, engrained in the American consciousness.

RYAN: There's the Antifa reference. See, it's all coming together.

The antifascism, Antifa reference.

GLENN: Kahlil's group, number nine, threatened to shut down Columbia University, unless it eliminated the police presence on campus and severed all ties to the New York Police Department.

Which if they did that, just in Columbia, that accomplishes so many of the other goals.

RYAN: Yeah. Right. And just it's amazing that the schools even tolerate -- even the threat. How are you led to this on campus, at all.

GLENN: Kahlil's group really likes to see things set on fire. I love that one. Explain.

RYAN: Yeah. That's what I was alluding to before, where they're giving specific examples of what was going on in Bangladesh, that should be replicated. And how they set fire to the state broadcasting networks headquarters. And they set fire to the prison. They set fire to the government offices. Set fire to the state vehicle.

Then there was an arsonist terrorist in California who tried to firebomb a federal building, he firebombed a cop car.

Lit a building on fire. Looted a building. On college campuses. And that's all fine and dandy. They said, that's a wonderful thing, and everyone cheers.

GLENN: Number 11, Kahlil's group had terrorists teach Columbia students.

RYAN: Yeah, so he put together a virtual event. That future to leaders of this group. That anyone that knows this stuff. Thirty seconds, you would know this is a front. For the popular front for the deliberation of Palestine, which is like the Marxist counterpart to Hamas. They work together, and they're both backed by Iran.

To -- and there's some academic exercise. We heard the viewpoint, anything that was challenged. No, just come in, and tell the students what reality is. And that's what they did. And they taught the students that hijacking, that was done by the terrorists, are an inspiring thing.

GLENN: Number 12, Columbia protesters were told to riot by a Chinese communist party entity. And they complied hours later.

RYAN: Yeah. Yeah. Just the -- all you can do is laugh at it. It's so absurd in some cases. So over 100 protesters from Columbia University, went to the headquarters of people's forum, which we know from the Capitol Research Center profile on them, is heavily, if not completely funded by the Chinese Communist Party. Like the leader is over there in China and in Asia. And this is all known and proven.

And so they said, you know what you guys should do? You should riot. And then a few hours later, Kahlil's group goes and they riot. So they're incited by the Chinese Communist Party in that instance.

GLENN: Again, we're talking about a guy, Columbia University student that is -- that is really behind a lot of the stuff, that was happening in Columbia University. All of this really, you know, Jew hatred. Israel hatred stuff.

And the people on the left are going, you can't do that. How dare you do that. Well, yeah. You're -- you're either part of the problem, or you just are ill-informed or uninformed.

You're living in a self-contained box of ignorance. Where there's three more left. And I will get Ryan to comment on those in just a second. First, let me are just take 60 seconds to break and tell you. I've watched the real estate market spin out of control. Right itself. And then spin out of control again. Dozens of times. Over and over and over again.

And it's a minefield to say the least. And any real estate agent that can navigate it halfway well is a successful one.

GLENN: We're talking to Ryan Mauro. You can follow him on X, @RyanMauro.

His website is Ryan Mauro. That's spelled M-A-U-R-O. RyanMauro.com.

And we're down to the last couple of points that you're making in this great op-ed on -- on the Blaze News and Blaze.com.

Let's see. We have 13. Kahlil's Group -- their stated goal is to topple all institutions that benefit from colonial, racial capitalism, and dismantle the state.

JASON: Yeah, so it's an anti-government group, just like the left likes to talk about, the crazy right-wing militia type forces. But then it happens. The Islamist Marxist friendly group, saying the same thing, and civil rights icon.

GLENN: Kahlil's group boasts about vandalism of campus property.

RYAN: Yeah, and I included that just to show people that the same people that do that type of thing, you can't just dismiss it. Like, it's all part of the same thing. So there's broader implications. It's not just about the spray paint.

GLENN: The last one. Number 15, a large part of Kahlil's coalition declared itself a literal part of Hamas. Oh, my gosh.

RYAN: Yeah, so the Students for Justice in Palestine, which is biggest group behind all of these protests, and, by the way, I already spoke to you. I completed by study for Capital Research Center. Where I found over 150 pro-terrorism groups, were behind the protests.

Literally, 150.

So this group is one of them.

And so Kahlil's group is a coalition, and probably the biggest group within his coalition is sue for justice in Palestine, which is nationwide. Which is the biggest group involved in all of this stuff. It's kind of widely known that they celebrate the October 7th attacks, because people were shocked. But people were so shocked, they didn't read the rest of the statement that they put out.

Because the rest of the statement, they actually say -- let me clarify something. The resistance -- we're not saying that we're in solidarity with them. We are saying, we are part of them.

GLENN: Jeez.

JASON: They cleared themselves to be part of a designated terrorist organization, Hamas and you just say the other groups that are involved in October 7th.

They're part of all those groups that illegally -- illegal to be a part of. And here's the kicker that I just recently found out.

Do you know who else is a member of Kahlil's group?

GLENN: Satan.

JASON: Ilhan Omar's daughter.

GLENN: You have to be kidding me.

JASON: She was arrested for her activism with this group. She tweeted that she is an organizer with Kahlil's group, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, and the Students for Justice in Palestine chapter at Columbia.

So think of it this way. Students for Justice in Palestine, since they are a part of Hamas, and then Ilhan Omar's daughter is a part of Students for Justice in Palestine, what does that say about it?

GLENN: What does it say about Ilhan Omar?

JASON: Right.

GLENN: So are these -- because the language is so Marxist. It's strangely almost disarming, instead of it being Allahu Akbar. Which -- what is his center? Marxism? Revolution? Or crazy Islamist?

RYAN: They come all insane. Because I monitored all these extremists, all these divisionists. I call them the seditionist movement. But I bring them together. From the anarchist to the Communist to the Islamist to the white nationalist.

And I can't tell the difference in -- in the -- between them.

They switch out the nouns. But it's all the things. Revolution. Discovering along ethnic, racial, political lines. US isn't a legitimate state.

It's more this guy is aligned with the PFL, the Popular Front Liberation of Palestine, which is backed by Iran. But it's kind of like -- it worked in tandem with Hamas, or as close as they could be. But they're Communists.

GLENN: Unbelievable. I can't thank you enough for everything that you do. I mean, you are fighting the good fight. And doing all the heavy lifting on it, and I really appreciate it.

Ryan. Ryan Mauro. Capital research center. Investigative researcher and counterterrorism expert. You can find this op-ed at the Blaze.com.

Why the Department of Education & USAID Must be Dismantled

President Trump is doing all he can to dismantle the Department of Education and USAID, but the Left is up in arms! For instance, there's Rep. Hank Johnson, who tried to argue in favor of the Department of Education, but ended up revealing his true beliefs about illegal immigrants. Glenn, Pat, and Stu explain how the Dept. of Ed. has really affected our kids and why it, along with USAID, should be exposed for the destructive organizations that they are.

European Union Admits TERRIFYING Truth About Digital Currencies

The head of the European Central Bank just admitted that the EU has been planning to roll out a "digital Euro" for OVER 5 YEARS. Wait, we were told that was a conspiracy theory! But now that it's ready to go, the EU is bragging about it. Glenn explains why CBDCs are a dangerous pivot away from the emphasis on personal freedom that the West has long championed. If the EU adopts a CBDC, it should fracture our alliance, Glenn says. Anybody who's advocating for a currency that the government can PROGRAM and TURN OFF is no friend of America or the Trump administration. But it's not just the EU, Glenn warns. Our Federal Reserve is also developing one. Glenn makes the case that Trump and Congress must BAN THIS NOW.

Transcript

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GLENN: Let me start with Europe. With the president of the European Central Bank. The ECB. I love central banks. Don't you, Pat?
PAT: Oh, they're the best.

GLENN: Pat sitting in for Stu again, who is just so sick.

Yesterday, he was vomiting from all the truffles he was eating on the couch, while he was watching soap operas.

Anyway, Christine Lagarde. She's the president of the Central Bank. It's basically our Fed. And they're all the same. Here's what she said, and it's a lot of blah, blah, blah. So I don't know how long I can take it. I'll summarize it if I can't take it for two whole minutes. But here she is.

VOICE: Nature doesn't like vacuum.

GLENN: Vacuum.

VOICE: And we started working on the digital euro.

GLENN: Hmm.

VOICE: Way back.

GLENN: Way back.

VOICE: Actually when I started my term five and a half years ago. And I'm not claiming, you know, parental -- parentality on the digital euro, because my colleague Benoit Kura (phonetic) had already committed a speech on this matter before I arrived, but I certainly carried on with that project, and subsequently Fabio Panetta on the board, and then Piro (inaudible) who has replaced Fabio.

GLENN: Okay. Okay. Okay. I can't listen to somebody who is talking about Fabio. Look, here's what she's announcing. First of all, let's remember that for years, Christine Lagarde and everybody else, both here, foreign, and domestic, have said that any worry about a CBDC is just a conspiracy theory. They have silenced. They have discredited anyone who warned of the dangers of this. But now, all of a sudden, I guess we all forgot that. Because now they're ready! And the steaks cannot be higher. We, I'm telling you, 18 to 48 months, our whole world is going to be different. They are ready to launch this now, and the stakes for privacy, free markets, and individual liberty, especially anybody who kind of likes the Constitution, they're at risk. Okay? This is a really dangerous pivot that is going on right now, and I think it should fracture our alliance. Anybody who is advocating for small government, personal freedom. You know. Hey. Privacy.

I don't think you should be in bed, and Defending those who are going down the road of Europe right now.

Years ago, CBDC. That's central bank digital currency. That's like Bitcoin. Except, the point of Bitcoin is, it's untraceable.

It's completely private. And nobody can stop you from using it.

CBDC. That's a tinfoil hat conspiracy. I'll never do that.

Why would we do that?

In fact, in 2019, Mark Carney, who was the head of the Bank of England back then. He said, CBDC, you are so misguided with your fears.

And he said that, while he was at Jackson Hole. You know, they have that economic symposium, where all the really cool people go to. And they talk about things. And when we, who are not the cool people in attendance go, that sounds spooky. You're just a tinfoil hat person.

Anyway, that's where he made that speech. That it's just misguided.

There's nothing to fear here.

Because we are just experiment. Oh. Kind of like Mengele.

I'm sorry. That was bad. Kind of like, let's say, the atomic bomb. There is nothing to atomic bomb, we're just doing experiments. Why would you be experimenting, if you didn't think that it would be something that you would eventually use.

So, anyway, 2021, Jerome Powell, who is our central bank guy. The Federal Reserve.

He said, quote, CBDCs. I love this one.

Not on the immediate horizon.

Okay. So you're admitting that it is on the horizon!

So in 2024, she, Lagarde, she -- she comes out, and she told the European parliament, that CBDC skepticism stem from conspiracy theories. Saying, the digital euro is not going to be big brother, surveillance.

Remember, what a central bank digital currency can do, and will do, at least over in the Soviet -- I mean, in Europe. Will be that it will track everything that you buy. Everything you sell.

Everything you make. Okay. Not a problem. That's fine.

I don't have anything to hide. Except, it can be turned off! You don't own -- like, I can go to the bank and say, I want cash. I want my cash out. Okay?

You'll be suspected of being a terrorist, if you do that. What's the problem? Hey, that's freedom, baby.

But you can take the cash. With the central bank digital currency, you don't own that. There's nothing to take out. They own that. The central bank and the government, they own that. So you have no place to go, but through them. And if you decide with be I don't really like that, they can turn your currency off.

And make no mistake, that's not a tinfoil hat conspiracy, that's what's happening in China!

So people have been -- there's a guy, practice sawed, I think his name is. He wrote a book, The Future of Money.

It came out in 2018. We talked about it on the program. And he was made to look ridiculous.

Theft!

Anybody who is a Libertarian, they've been talking about, you're crazy.

Anybody who spoke about it, on any platform during the Biden administration.

They're crazy!

And you were throttled or suspended, because you were spreading misinformation. Okay?

So I got the message. It's a farce. It's not happening.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Except, now they've just announced that it is happening. Okay?

Back in 2020, the European central bank said, 86 percent of all central banks are working on this right now.

Oh! Okay.

Okay. Then as she said, in 2024, there's a two-year pilot. But now she said, there's a rollout coming for digital currency, from the central bank of Europe.

So it went from conspiracy, to reality, in a year!

Love how that works. And we're all just supposed to not notice it!

Okay.

So here's -- here's why this is so dangerous, and something you must pay attention to.

I am convinced that especially ASI, is going to be a tool. Remember, like everything. Like everything, even Scriptures. Scriptures, that's a tool.

It's a gift given to you, if you would like to use it. But know that that powerful gift that you have, can fall into the hands of somebody else.

And they can twist it, and use it for very powerful, nefarious purposes. That's just the written word of the Scriptures.

Okay!

It will always -- everything can be used for good or bad. It depends on the people who are holding it in their hands. All right.

And I really am convinced that ASI, digital currency, that's all found in the Bible!

I mean, I'm in Bible territory here.

Specifically the last part of the Bible.

That -- are these the tools that are very much like the tools foretold.

That will be employed by the Antichrist, to snuff out anyone who dares to say, I'm really not with him.

Now, so they are -- China has already done this. They launched in 2020, with their digital yuan. It tracks everything.

And that gives you your -- your -- your currency. But it also gives you the currency to be somebody in good standing. If you don't do exactly what the state tells you to do, you're tracked, you're monitored. And guess who doesn't get to go on an airplane. Guess who doesn't get to take the train.

If we say who can't go into certain buildings. You!

Because you're no longer in good standing. And it gets worse and worse and worse, until you are literally living on the streets, only because you disagree with the government.

Don't believe me! Look it up. Now, the US is not far behind. We have got to pass -- and Donald Trump said he would sign it. We have got to pass legislation right now!

No central bank digital currency, ever!

In America. No -- no digital passport, ever, in America!

Because we're already working on a digital dollar here.

Europe's move is not isolated. It is a chess move. Well, they're doing it. And China is doing it.

Or we will do it. Because we will be left behind. I want to be left behind. There is going to come a time where you will hear me -- you probably will. Maybe. I don't know.

There will come a time where I will be like, you know, the Amish have it right. Maybe we should all be Amish. Now, I might just be saying that in a barn with cows and people all dressed in black. I don't know.

But there's going to come a time where I'm like, I think we should all get out of here. And go the other direction.

And it could be coming quickly!

Because what that means for privacy, for free markets.

For your individual choice, is beyond most people's understanding, today!

But you've got to educate. Remember, I said, there's going to come a time, where things are happening so fast, you will not be able to keep up with them.

You've already seen this in a good way with Donald Trump.

He came in. And it's not just that he had a plan.

It's also that we're using AI to find all of these things to correct!

Okay. That's why Elon Musk is there!

Tech support!

That's what speeding things up. Does and you haven't seen anything yet.

So when I give you these warnings.

Saying, hey, you've got to -- please, bone up on it. Please, go ask Grok today.

CBDC from Europe. What does that mean?

What could it do?

What are the good things. What are the possible bad things?

I think, in this case, the bad outweighs the good. Because it takes away any kind of privacy whatsoever. And hands it directly to a government!

Really bad! We'll go more in this in just a second. And so much more, just left this hour on the podcast.

GLENN: Okay. So let me explain. CBDC, central bank digital currencies. Their digital dollars, or euros. And they're issued by central banks. It's like Bitcoin.

Except, not. Here's the big difference: This will replace your cash with what are called programmable, trackable tokens.

Programmable, meaning, hey. We have inflation for gas. Or we don't want you buying so much gas, because we have to reduce emissions. Who is a central person who needs to go to work?

Everybody who has money in their bank, that's not deemed essential. You no longer can fill your tank with gas.

It won't work with any gas pump.

Okay. That's a programmable currency.

Every single transaction from buying bread, paying rent, everything, is programmable by the state.

Now, they say, oh, there's not going to be any data access. That's a conspiracy theory.

I don't believe you on the conspiracy theory, anymore.

You've lied and lied and lied.

And, by the way, in parliament. When they were talking about this, maybe in 2018, they were arguing that we can't pass any of this, until it's programmable.

It must be programmable.

And that means the government can cap your spending, block purchases.

Because, you know, can't buy fossil fuels.

Freeze your account, because you're no longer in favor with the government.

And free markets die!

Because they have a complete monopoly on money.

I don't know if you know this, but monopoly, isn't just the longest, most frustrating, most boring game ever invented. It's also a bad thing, when it comes to free money, free markets.

Bad!

Tenth amendment, by the way, reserves the power to states and individuals. CBDCs. They centralize control. They undermine federalism.

This is a betrayal of everything our republic stands for. It replaces liberty with technocratic tyranny. And if Europe embraces CBDCs and they're still allies, I don't think they're allies to small government, freedom-loving Americans. They're not. They're not.

This path puts them right, directly in the path of every brutal dictator, every fascist. Every German who was on stage after J.D. Vance was speaking to them.

That wept and said, if they want freedom of speech. We don't have anything in common with them anymore.

Because we're about to roll out a CBDC. And that will make sure that everybody only says the things we want them to say.

It is no longer a conspiracy theory. Europe is rolling theirs out, a social credit system will be next.