Was deadly force justified in the raid on the house of 75-year-old Utah resident Craig Robertson? Glenn speaks with former FBI agent Kyle Seraphin to gain a better understanding of how these kind of raids work. Seraphin lays out why he believes the SWAT team was likely justified in its actions during the raid. But he also argues that the most concerning part is that a SWAT team was sent in the first place: "They'll never use their handcuffs because SWAT is busy [making the] arrests. And that's not good." Seraphin further gives 2 possible scenarios for why the FBI may have moved Robertson's body, "and they're both stupid."
Democratic Rep. Jamaal Bowman pulled a fire alarm right before an important vote on funding the government. Many accused him of trying to delay the vote. But he claimed he was just trying to open a door and had no idea it would actually trigger the fire alarm. Is that excuse believable at all? Glenn, who has been known to accidentally pull fire alarms all the time, reviews the evidence and reveals the only somewhat plausible way Bowman could have possibly thought pulling the alarm would open the door ... maybe. Plus, he and Stu review Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's "delightfully stupid" defense of her progressive colleague.
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: Okay. So I -- let me just -- oh, jeez.
Oh. I am sorry. I -- I was trying to open my desk drawer to get another pain. And I didn't know how to open it.
And I just pulled the -- I thought that would open the desk -- it's a false alarm, you can shut it off now. Oh, boy.
It's going to be one of those days.
STU: They need to label it better. You can't tell.
GLENN: Right. It says right here, pull in case of fire. Oh, no.
GLENN: My finger slipped. I didn't mean. It was a false alarm.
False alarm. We can -- thank you. Oh, my.
You know, this -- this happens more than you think. You know, I feel pretty stupid right now right now. Because everybody says, it's a fire alarm, it's clearly marked.
When was the last time you pulled the fire alarm by mistake? When was the last time you met somebody who pulled it by mistake?
And I would say, never. Okay?
I mean, yes, I knew somebody in grade school who pulled it intentionally.
But that's the only time, I've ever seen anyone involved in pulling a firearm.
Because they're clearly marked. Now, that's what you might think. However, there are a lot of people, a lot -- well, there's one person, who thought it would open a door. This is what happened, this weekend.
STU: In the building, he works in every day --
GLENN: Well, it's probably a door he's never been to.
STU: Does he think the doors work differently in different parts of the building? Like they just operate.
GLENN: I don't know what you mean.
STU: There's just a handle separate from the door?
GLENN: Well, no. He couldn't -- I mean, the door was marked.
STU: Right. Okay. Okay.
GLENN: Push the lever, and door will open and sound the alarm.
And said, it will sound -- push the lever, and alarm will sound for 15 seconds. Door will open.
And that was clearly marked on the door on the lever.
But he said, he needed to get out. Because, well, he had to get to a vote. Now, a lot of people will say that Jamal bowman, was pulling the fire alarm, to make sure everyone in the Capitol, got out of the Capitol.
So he would disrupt. What do they call it? Oh, an official proceeding.
STU: Hmm. Hmm. Sounds odd.
GLENN: But he was --
STU: Because you're not supposed to disrupt official proceedings. We've learned that quite a bit.
GLENN: Gosh, Stu, I'm sorry. I couldn't get this jar of pickles open. I was just going to have a pickle while I was listening to you.
And I couldn't get it open, and I pulled the fire alarm. I thought maybe that would -- it says twist to open right here on the --
STU: Well, they should be clearer on that.
GLENN: It was another false alarm! Thank you. Oh, man.
STU: Close call.
GLENN: It happens all the time, doesn't it?
GLENN: Now we have to delay the show?
STU: We have to delay the show.
GLENN: I just pulled the fire alarm because you said it would delay the show.
STU: Now, we can't do a show while the fire alarm is sounding.
GLENN: Sorry, guys. We all have to go away. Good night, everybody.
STU: Well, now it's off. So we can do the show again. I mean, this is unbelievable.
The idea that we're supposed to believe this.
GLENN: Well, AOC, she believes it.
Now, she was the one. She was the one who had never seen a disposal before.
Remember, she did an Instagram thing. She flipped a switch. And said, I don't know what this switch does by my sink. And she turns it. And it's the disposal.
And she goes, oh, my gosh. What is that?
I've never seen one of those. I don't know what that disposal is.
I've never seen heard of it.
Maybe if I do this, I can close it. Will it close the disposal?
I'm just trying to close the disposal!
STU: It really should have sent AOC to do this job.
Because people would have legitimately believed that she would have pulled the fire alarm and the door opened. She's the only person I know, that would actually believe it. I would totally buy it from her.
GLENN: Yeah. Now, first of all, let me give you AOC.
Here she is.
VOICE: I will be honest a bit. It doesn't really make sense to me, his explanation.
Did you talk to him? What's going on?
VOICE: Yeah. I think if you do see some photos of the sign. I think there's something to be said, about the government is about to shut down. There's a clock that's going down. The exits that were normally opened have been suddenly closed.
VOICE: So I -- what I'm here to say is that --
STU: What I'm here to say is...
GLENN: Capitol Police and Jamaal Bowman are active, and he's fully participating. And saying, there was a misunderstanding.
STU: Hold on.
He's active and fully participating in saying that there was a misunderstanding?
GLENN: Yes. He was actively --
STU: That is not our language.
GLENN: No. He was active --
STU: What language is that? What combination of words?
GLENN: That's American, okay?
You're American in you, speak American.
STU: She is delightfully stupid.
I know -- I know people don't like her.
I understand that. But I just find her just wonderful. She's so dumb. And so public about it.
GLENN: Hang. Hang on.
STU: What happened?
GLENN: There was apparently, one of our listeners was opening their mind.
STU: Okay. Oh, no.
GLENN: And they thought that's how they did it. Apparently not.
So false alarm!
STU: I mean, she is -- it's not like this is the first time she's ever been on television.
If that were the case. You might say, wow. She's really struggling in this moment.
GLENN: I want to ask you.
I want to ask you. Now, I have a method to the madness. Just to go with me.
GLENN: What does a fire alarm look like?
STU: It's a little handle. Usually says fire.
GLENN: Red and white, yeah? Where is it usually?
STU: On the wall.
GLENN: On the wall, okay.
Where did you learn about fire alarms?
STU: I don't know that I can trace that back.
It seems so blatantly obvious. I can't point to where I learned about it.
But it was certainly when I was very young.
GLENN: Probably in school.
Because you had, what?
STU: That's right.
GLENN: And do you know anybody who accidentally has pulled a fire drill.
STU: Not until this week.
GLENN: Not until this weekend. Okay.
Number one, I learned about them in school, I'm sure. I didn't see them anywhere else, I'm sure. So I learned about it in school.
Guess what Jamaal Bowman did, before he was a member of Congress?
STU: I mean, gee. What could it be?
GLENN: Well, he was the principal of a school.
STU: School. Hmm.
GLENN: So I'm sure, he didn't have any run-ins with firearms, at a school.
STU: No. And surely, he wasn't taught, that people sometimes, pull firearms to delay things. By students.
GLENN: Oh, he never gave that message. Never gave that message.
Do not pull a fire alarm. It's not a joke. Not a joke.
Now, it's an offense for a couple of reasons this time. Pulling a fire alarm is illegal if there is no fire.
STU: It's like, yelling fire in a crowded theater.
Similar to that.
GLENN: Exactly right. Exactly right. And there's another reason you don't do it in the Capitol.
And that would be because you were trying to obstruct official proceedings.
So, in other words, if January 6th, just one guy, one guy would have walked in.
And pulled the fire alarm. He would have been given the 22 years. Just because he was obstructing an official proceeding.
GLENN: Now, if that guy happened to be -- and this is very common.
If that guy happened to say, I'm sorry. I was just trying to open the door.
I thought this would open the door. It would have been gone. I mean, they would have even questioned it.
STU: Yeah. I think they would just let them go immediately. He just made a mistake. That was a door handle that was labeled fire.
That was not -- to the side of the door.
GLENN: Sure. And it doesn't say door. It says fire.
STU: No, it says fire.
GLENN: It says fire. So the best I can do on this, is he was trying to open the door, and he thought those were fire doors.
Now, seeing that they were glass doors, seeing that they were glass doors, you -- I have to grade him down on intelligence yet again.
STU: Wait. You are trying to give him this benefit of the doubt. Saying, okay. It's a fire door.
So, therefore --
GLENN: And it would open up.
But that's the exact opposite of what a fire door would do.
STU: Right. It would be the opposite. It would be close. You would want it to be closed, the fire.
GLENN: Yes. Yes.
STU: Because you want the fire to come through.
GLENN: Well, yes.
But if it's to the outside, it would also feed a fire. Because you don't want more oxygen coming in.
STU: Right. There you go.
GLENN: So I can't make this work.
I can't make this work at all.
STU: I mean, it's impossible.
It's impossible for anybody to believe this.
And it's one of those things, that let's just take him at his word, for a second. Let's just entertain this for a second. He walked in, he saw fire. He pulled the thing. He was going door to door. He should be immediately removed from Congress.
GLENN: Why is that, Stu?
STU: But you're obviously too stupid to be in Congress.
So either --
GLENN: I agree with this.
STU: You should be out of Congress, because you're too dumb.
GLENN: I agree with this.
Look, if he is this stupid, we don't have to impeach him. We don't have to do anything. He won't find his way to work, sometime this week.
He won't find his pants or his underpants, sometime this week. And he will just walk out in his wing tipped shoes. And his tie and his shirt. And, you know, everything swinging in the breeze. And he will be like, what are you talking about?
Oh, my pants? I didn't know I was -- how do I put my pants on?
Just -- just have to -- get that. Would that help put my pants?
Hello. I need to put my pants. Somebody with pants. Come quick!
Oh. False alarm. I don't need pants.
I don't wear pants.
STU: But you're already wearing them.
The Romeike family has spent the last 15 years living in America, seeking asylum after facing persecution in Germany for homeschooling their children. But recently, immigration officials ordered them to self-deport back to Germany by October 11, despite having followed the law. But why is the Biden administration going after this Christian family while keeping our border wide open to illegal immigrants? The father, Uwe Romeike, and his attorney, Kevin Boden of the Home School Legal Defense Association, join Glenn to detail this latest chapter of their story and explain what they plan to do next.
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: We told you a story, maybe it was 2010 or '11. I don't remember when it was. This story has been going on forever.
There is a German family, they were living in Germany. They were homeschooling their kids.
That's illegal in Germany. They pulled their kids out.
Because look at the crap we're now teaching our kids.
You want your kids in that in homeschooling is illegal. They faced fines, adding up over $10,000.
They were threatened with the loss of the custody of their children.
And their children were taken, brought to school. By the police.
All right? That's how bad it got. In 2010, they came to the United States, and asked for asylum. Because of their religious point of view. They were -- they were threatened with all kinds of stuff.
So they granted -- they were granted asylum in the US.
But the government appealed. Two years later, the Sixth Circuit court finally revoked the asylum status. Supreme Court with not hear the case.
At that time, the attorney was told by the Department of Homeland Security. They would grant them indefinite deferred action, and not deport the family.
They went to the ICE office, once a year, as directed. They did everything that they were supposed to do.
They were just getting a document signed based on, so they could get employment authorizations in America.
They have lived within the law the whole time. They came here, the right way. Thee weeks ago, they were told to come back in a month with all of their documents. Because they were going to be deported.
That includes the five children that came with them in 2008. As well as, the two that were born here now, in America.
The oldest children that got married to an American citizen, last year. The first grandchild was born here, two weeks ago.
And they're supposed to leave America.
If they go back, they will face the same persecution, high fines.
It will financially ruin their -- their family.
They'll have jail time. And lose the custody of their kids. And the older kids, that were homeschooled, here in America, it will not be counted in Germany.
So they will not be able to go for higher education, or get good jobs.
Because it won't count.
With the hundreds of thousands, that are coming across our border, every month, illegally. And the left says, it's all about asylum.
This case is. We're going to talk to them in 60 seconds.
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All right. Uwe Romeike is the dad. He is also with Kevin Boden.
He is a Homeschool Legal Defense Association attorney.
Did I get any of the -- of the story wrong, Uwe?
UWE: No, it was all right. Thank you for having me on. The only thing that was different, was wrong, was the initial day or year when we came was 2008.
UWE: We have been hear for 15 years now. Yes.
GLENN: Okay. And I remember we talked to you earlier, because your case was pending, I think at the time. And you have lived now here for 15 years.
You have been good, solid citizens. You -- you have jobs. You're not depending on the government. Correct
UWE: Correct. Yes.
GLENN: And what happens if you go back to Germany? What happens to you and your family?
UWE: Yes. Since we were born here in the United States. They would come with us, of course. They are now ten and 12 years old. And six and seventh grade.
And we were homeschooled. 80 percent. That's the earlier situation with custody. Earlier custody.
And fines. And prosecutions. And all these things.
That would be the same as before we left. So there wouldn't be any way to homeschool in Germany.
GLENN: And why are you homeschooling in Germany? What is this really all about?
UWE: Well, you know, we have several reasons. But initially, we started homeschooling, because our two oldest children who at that time, were in school for two or three years, their -- their personality changed. They became with withdrawn. They developed headaches, stomachaches.
Doctor couldn't say there was any physical reason. It was all in terms of bullying, and having a fear to go to school.
And then later on, we found out, that also, what they were taught at school was diametrically against what we as Christians believe.
So there were so many reasons we didn't want them to go there again. And once we started actually homeschooling, they relaxed. They became their old selves again.
And they have children now, and they're all grown up. They have good jobs here.
And so everything turned our world. So we wanted to do the best for our children. We wanted to do that.
GLENN: And so you have two older children, that married Americans.
GLENN: And they have -- they're being deported as well?
UWE: Yes. Because -- citizenship, of the paperwork, hadn't gone through yet.
So it's the process. So they're now all in tutoring.
GLENN: Okay. So let me talk to your attorney, Kevin.
Kevin works for HSLDA. It is a nonprofit organization. Making homeschooling possible, and making sure they're defending the homeschoolers. Kevin, what is -- what is happening here?
KEVIN: Well, Glenn, thanks for having us on. I know you've been supporting the family, for many, many years. Going all the way back to 2014. And we appreciate that.
We don't know what was going on. We do know, they were told to go back in four weeks. And bring their passports, to self-deportation. We also know that ICE, you know, has the ability to execute prosecutorial discretion. And to not deport the family.
And so we know what they've been told to do. And we know what's in the authority to do.
And for some reason, we don't have yet. They have been told to get ready to go.
GLENN: Huh. Paragraph all I can think of is -- I mean, what would happen if they went on vacation?
And, you know, in Texas.
And were staying at a friend's house.
I mean, what would happen?
KEVIN: Well, we don't know. They are under an order of supervision that they had been under for the last 10 years. Which does require they show up to these ICE meetings.
So they've been directed to come back. And they have an obligation per this order of supervision to show up.
And, you know -- as you you know, Uwe and Hannelore have been law-abiding individuals in this country, since the day they set foot on American soil. If you notice like I do, they will do nothing but comply with the law because that's the type of character that this family has.
GLENN: I have to tell you, I am so disgusted by this. This is truly a family that needs asylum. They don't have the First Amendment in Germany. We have it here to protect people. This is what it means to bring in those who are persecuted.
Not the hundreds of thousands of -- of young men, without families, coming across our border, in the middle of the night.
They did it the right way.
And this -- I tell you, Kevin, this bothers me so deeply.
When I first heard this story, a couple of weeks ago.
I think I said this on the air. It was a very dark day for me.
I had a really -- Stu will tell you, you had a really hard time going on.
Because I thought, if this government, with everything that is out of control, has the time to take this family down.
They have such malice, that it -- that it -- they're doing things that we can't even imagine. If they're coming after this family, that's malice.
And it is -- and it is not good for any American.
KEVIN: Well, and, Glenn, it's inconsistent with the Department of Homeland Security's own policies. I mean, there's a guidance memorandum from 2021, Secretary Mayorkas.
And the three priorities are a threat to national security, threat to public safety, and threat to border security.
So, I mean, you tell me, where does the Romeike family fall into these three priorities?
I mean, they are the lowest of the low, in terms of being here in the United States.
So, you know, my thought is, just follow your own priorities. They're good priorities.
But why are we not putting resources in the US government to actually enforce the priorities, that they have identified?
GLENN: So what's the plan?
KEVIN: Well, we have a petition we're circulating. We're hoping to present that to President Joe Biden.
GLENN: We're there!
KEVIN: Well, it's to demonstrate broad support.
Of course, we want to just demonstrate that the country is behind this family.
Representative Harshbarger has filed a private bill in the House of Representatives. Many before the House Judiciary Committee.
We would like members of Congress to support that private bill. They can't cosponsor. They can support it.
Then Jim Jordan in that committee or subcommittee, can request a report from ICE, with this bill, that would effectively be a stay on any removal proceedings. So we're asking the judiciary committee. The House Judiciary Committee, to request that report.
To tell -- ICE is telling them, what's going on? Why are you deporting this family? What's going on? Give us the actual -- give us the reason. And that would provide temporary reprieve to Romeike and family, and then long-term, we would love a private bill in the Senate as well.
And, you know, those are a couple of the angles, that we're looking at right now. Which would allow them to stay and to continue their life hear.
As we pursue some longer term strategies.
GLENN: Okay. So here's. If you're listening now. If you're not listening, then how you are hearing me?
But if you are listening, I want you to go to HSLDA. HSLDA.org/Romeike, which is R-O-M-E-I-K-E. Rome Ike is how you spell that. HSLDA.org/Romeike.
And sign this. I am on the website right now. And I am going to sign my name to it. I never sign petitions. But I will sign a petition for this family.
This is totally outrageous. What else can we do to help this family?
KEVIN: Well, Uwe can speak as well. What he would say also is pray. This is a faith-filled family. And they love the Lord. And as he's told me many, many times, we appeal to the most high. And the most high can take action and supernaturally intervene.
And I know for their hearts, that's something that everyone, regardless of whether they sign, donate, whatever, that's something they can do.
GLENN: Can I invite the -- I'm saying this without any knowing of my schedule at all here. So I apologize to my production staff. But I would like to invite the family especially the kids that were born here and the older kids.
I would like to interview them. And make sure that people see this family. And what you're really all about.
Can we get you guys to come in for that?
UWE: We would love to, yes. Thank you.
GLENN: I am -- I have done more apologizing to foreigners for my country in the last five to eight years, that I thought I would never have to do this. We have done so many immoral things. We have done so many things against God. We have so lost our way, we don't even know who we are anymore.
And my apologies for what our country is doing to you and your family. This is absolutely immoral.
And I thank you for being people that still love our country. Despite what we've done.
UWE: Yes. And we love the American people. And it's really my knowledge, that it is the best.
I think most Americans are good people. And believe in people. Question people. And we are very thankful for all the support, prayer, and people who loved on us, when we first came hear.
So we feel very blessed to be here. Thank you for all your support.
GLENN: You bet. Thank you. We'll be in touch.
Guys, thank you so much.
It's HSLDA.org/Romeike, which is Romeike. R-O-M-E-I-K-E.
I have to tell you, this is one that I will go camp outside of their house and I will surround their house with like-minded, loving Christian people who will just not break arms on our knees. We just go and kneel around their house, in droves, and we lock arms and we just pray for this family.
And if they have to haul -- if they have to haul me to jail so they can get to that family, so be it. I have had enough. I have had enough. And I don't want to be a part of -- of anything that is violent, is trying to overthrow anything.
But there comes a time where we have got to stand or kneel!
Begging and -- and relying on the protection of Divine Providence.
Liz Wheeler, host of “The Liz Wheeler Show,” wants everyone to know that our children are being attacked by “forces of Marxism.” It’s NOT an exaggeration, and her new book, “Hide Your Children: Exposing the Marxists Behind the Attack on America’s Kids,” shows exactly how the far Left has the nation’s youngest citizens in its crosshairs — especially within America’s public schools. In this episode of “The Glenn Beck Podcast,” Wheeler joins Glenn to outline exactly where these attacks are taking place. Plus, they discuss why Planned Parenthood recently has become a major force in the trans rights movement, the woke villainization of white, Christian men, and the biggest misconceptions regarding AI (artificial intelligence).
Multiple Democratic officials are speaking out after their policies have destroyed their cities. Is sanity finally coming back to America? On today’s Friday Exclusive, Glenn reacts to the sudden shift in Democrats' view on illegal immigration, even though some mainstream politicians are still holding firm. Also, Glenn responds to a Texas House member who claimed that Biden’s only crime is ‘loving his son.’ Next, Glenn explains how sinking the lifeboat will cause more tragedy than safety. Lastly, Glenn reacts to a shocking clip of a British official coming out against multiculturalism and a Polish official defending his anti-illegal immigration stance.