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Joe & Hunter Biden, Burisma scandal DEBUNKED? CNN, media work to shift narrative on Ukraine

News organizations like CNN and Salon are working hard to completely shift the narrative surrounding what's going on in Ukraine. News "reports," like the one Glenn reads here, tries to convince Americans that the whole Ukraine scandal -- that Joe Biden worked to fire Ukraine prosecutors who were investigating his son, Hunter Biden, and Burisma -- has been debunked. But court documents filed by those prosecutors BEFORE they were fired by Biden tell quite a different story.

Did Obama REALLY Have to Lead a Senile Biden Off Stage?
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Did Obama REALLY Have to Lead a Senile Biden Off Stage?

The White House now insists that it’s “disinformation” to say that President Biden wandered away from G7 leaders while watching parachutists. He wasn’t lost in his own senile world! He was just greeting another parachutist…and had to be dragged back to the rest of the group. Well, over the weekend, Biden allegedly had a similar moment when former president Barack Obama had to allegedly lead him off stage at a massive fundraiser for his campaign. So, what’s the truth? Glenn and Pat break it down. Plus, they also discuss the upcoming first Trump/Biden debate of the 2024 election: What are Trump’s real odds of winning? Will the White House juice up Biden? And why are they holding it before the parties’ presidential conventions?

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GLENN: Remember the video of Joe Biden, you know, kind of wanderings off, and Prime Minister Maloney, going over and grabbing him and bringing him back in a very graceful way.

The White House has now come out and said, this is disinformation.

And there are stories everywhere about this. On how this is disinformation.

He was looking at some of the other parachutists, and he just wanted to go over and salute them and congratulate them. Maybe it's true. Maybe it's not true.

But it certainly is true, that he is not looking presidential. He is not paying attention. He is in his own little world.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: But they notice that they say, this is disinformation.

They say that to discredit anyone. Now, let me take it a step further. Over the weekend, there was a -- there was a fundraiser in California. In Los Angeles.

PAT: Huge.

GLENN: Yeah. Huge. And I think $50 million. Something like that. Jimmy Kimmel hosted it and Barack Obama was there with Joe Biden.

PAT: George Clooney. Julia Roberts. A bunch of stars. Yeah.

GLENN: At the end, Joe Biden is standing there with his hands kind of clenched a couple of times. But his hands -- and he was in that frozen lip sort of look. And when it comes time to leave the stage, Obama just reaches over and grabs Biden by the wrist and leads him off the stage. And it looks horrible, absolutely horrible. We can't show that video today, because it's something that all of us in the media are experiencing right now. Lawfare. We are being sued and everybody in our position are being sued if we play any clip. And, you know, it's weird. We don't get in trouble for playing clips that, you know, are neutral. Or don't have anything to do with anything, but, you know, Joe Biden. And the left.

We can't play them. And they're -- they're charging now. Like that clip is $600 for one -- one play. One play.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And I don't even know if that includes on the internet and replays and everything else.

So they're making it impossible, for to us show you clips, of things that happened.

PAT: That are all over the internet, by the way. They're all over -- we just can't talk about them. We can't do it.

I mean, we can talk about it. But we can't show it. The problem makes it worse, right?

GLENN: I think it does. I was just going to say that. I think it makes it much worse.

If I describe to you, Joe Biden on the stage, and he's in that pose. And he's just stiff, and his hands are clenched.

And Obama grabs him by the arm. Your imagination might make that worse, than it actually is.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: You might watch that and go, well, it's not that bad. But if we can't play it, you don't get to decide. And that's the point.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: You don't get to decide.

PAT: But Obama definitely grabs him by the wrist and starts leading him out, and then he smoothly kind of makes it like, oh, this is my good buddy, and puts him arm around him. And then he just pushes him off the stage. He just guides him the whole way.

GLENN: The whole time. The whole time.

PAT: And never -- never removes his arm from -- from Joe Biden's back.

It's amazing to watch. And I don't know how they explain that away. I'm sure they will just say, oh, they are just very close.

GLENN: Yeah. Barack does not like Joe Biden.

PAT: No. Not in a minute.

GLENN: There's something else. Is the debate on Thursday or Friday of this week?

PAT: It's a week from Thursday.

GLENN: A week from Thursday. I am reading so much that Donald Trump is just going to cream him and everything else.

I -- I would be very careful with your predictions on this. First of all, it -- it will higher expectations. So everybody will expect him to just make a clean sweep. And if he doesn't, then it looks like a loss for Donald Trump.

So be careful on the way you're being used.

PAT: Yeah. True.

GLENN: To talk about this.

And the other thing is, and we will find this out. Well, we won't. But our kids and grandkids will find out. I'm convinced that they juice him.

PAT: Oh, for sure. Just like they did for the State of the Union Address.

GLENN: Well, we don't know that for sure, but we speculate.

PAT: Yes. Yes.

GLENN: He comes out, and he is a different man entirely.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And, you know, they did this for JFK, and everything else.

And we didn't know about it, for 20 years. But, you know, just like Elvis and everybody else.

You have to perform. Let's get him to performance level, and they juice him up. And so he will be clear. I think he will actually do well. He will be clear. Donald Trump could also look like a bully, to this sweet little old man.

I mean, honestly

PAT: It's possible.

GLENN: You have no idea, how this thing is going to play out. No idea.

The question we should be asking is: Why are they doing it, before either of them are officially the candidate of their party?

PAT: Is your thought on that, that they could make a change if they decide to.

GLENN: I have no thought on it.

I have no thought on it. Other than, we're probably not going to get a debate before the election. And, you know, there's a million ways you can go. You know, if he doesn't do well. They can change him.

You know, if he gets worse in the next six months. They know what they're dealing with now.

But what will he be like in November? Look how fast this guy is deteriorating. So maybe it's that. I don't know.

But in my lifetime, Pat. I don't think I've ever seen a debate between the two candidates. In a presidential debate, before the two conventions.

PAT: No. I don't think it's happened. I think this is the earliest ever.

GLENN: Right. Right. So what is that all about?

Why is that happening?

PAT: It might be. Yeah. I think like you said. It could be a number of things.

But one of the things that I think is pretty obvious.

Is that if he performs badly. You have meant of time to recover from that. If this happens right before. Right before the election, and he performs terribly, like we expect him to.

Or so many of us do.

Then that hurts him.

But if it's six months before, you forget.

GLENN: Right. And if he does really, really well, like he did in the State of the Union.

I mean, I thought it was a horrible speech. And I disagreed with almost he went he ever said.

PAT: But perform better than I thought he would.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. He performed like he was there.

And if he performs like he is there, then they have that to go to all the time. Over and over again. No matter what he's like. You know. Because you cannot have. You can't have the performance of the State of the Union. And the performance in the rest of his life. You know, you just -- it doesn't -- they're juicing him with something. Something is happening.

To get him to that state. And I think he will be in that state.

Which everybody will say. Because they're expecting such a poor performance of him.

Oh, look. He's not as bad as everybody says.

Glenn Schools CNN: Why America is a REPUBLIC, Not a Democracy
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Glenn Schools CNN: Why America is a REPUBLIC, Not a Democracy

CNN recently asked Trump supporters about America’s “democracy” and were terrified to discover that they believed we’re not a democracy, but a republic. Well, sorry CNN, but that’s true, no matter what the “experts” claim. Glenn breaks it all down for them and explains why our Founders chose to combine the principles of a republic and a democracy to create the system we have now…or do we? Glenn explains how our system of unelected, faceless bureaucrats is the real danger, not Trump supporters…

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GLENN: I have some -- some breaking news from CNN. We apparently are not a republic.

Now, I want you to listen to the -- please, I haven't said this in a long time. But just about everything pisses me off so much, and I can't believe it, that I've kind of have given up on my head not exploding.

But I guarantee you, your head will explode on this CNN clip.

So please, wrap your head tightly in duct tape. It will explode.

But at least you will have all the pieces that way, when you walk in, they will be like, oh, another head explosion.

And you will have all the pieces, so they can stitch you back together.

But your head will explode on this. Here's the latest from CNN.

VOICE: President Biden's House's re-election campaign is a fight to preserve democracy. If you ask some Trump supporters, the former president is not a threat to democracy, because the United States is not a democracy.

VOICE: Obviously, there's a lot of criticisms of Trump, that he is bad for democracy. That he's bad for American democracy.

VOICE: We are a republic. We are not a democracy.

VOICE: We are a republic, we're not a democracy.

VOICE: One thing we've been hearing at Trump rallies like this over the past few months. Is that America isn't really a democracy.

VOICE: America is not a democracy. It's a republic. .

VOICE: Look, it's not a democracy. Democracy is actually not as good as you think it is.

VOICE: America is a democracy. It was founded as a democracy.

VOICE: Here's the expert.

VOICE: I've had heard a lot of conspiracy theories, I hear a lot of things out on the road. But to hear Americans, people who describe themselves as patriots, say that America is not a democracy. That stopped me in my tracks.

GLENN: Right.

VOICE: You were hearing people say America is not a democracy because there are people around Trump who want them to be saying that. Who have planted that narrative.

GLENN: Okay. They've been planting that narrative. Continue on. Please. Play some more if there's more. Oh, you have to get to the end. See if you can get to the rest of it. Where they go back and talk to people and they're saying, you're wrong. We're not a republic.

And they make this into a giant scandal.

We are a republic!

And to the republic, for which it stands! Okay?

Here's the problem, people don't understand what the difference is between a democracy.

We are a democracy, on voting day.

One man. One vote.

You go in. And you use the democratic principle of one man, one vote.

And you democratically elect people to their position.

But what you're not doing is voting on every single law.

You are voting for a representative.

That representative represents you in the republic. A republic has people -- understands that people can't understand every single issue and be voting on every single issue. A republic also understands that a democracy is bad. A -- democracy-only country will every time. Because all you need is to whip enough people into a frenzy. Schedule a vote. They'll vote, the way you want them to vote. It will bring you things like the Patriot Act, when something bad happens, people will be like, we've got to stop all those Japanese! Let's put them into a camp!

Okay? You have a republic to slow the process down and give reason a chance. Can you imagine this country voting on every single issue? When they don't even know the difference between a republic and a democracy? And when you have media, that is going to experts -- so-called experts. And telling us, that we're -- we're not a republic!

A lot of time was spent with the Founders trying to find the best system. They ruled democracy out, because they always fail.

So they took the democratic principle, which is one man, one vote. Used that to select representatives.

We are a representative republic. And that you have to be able to explain that to people.

You have to understand, look, democracy is a very important part of our republic. But it is not what we are.

We are a democratic republic. So we vote for the people to represent us. Why is the democracy part so important?

Well, the democracy part is really important because what was the war in heaven, all about?

If you go back and you read your Scriptures and you look at the war in heaven, what was it about?

It was about Satan saying, I'll cleanse all of them. You don't need anything, but me. I'll go down, and I will tell everyone, what they're supposed to do and keep them from sinning.

I'll keep them safe, and they won't make any decisions on their own. I'll tell them they can only do these things. Then Jesus stood up and said, no. They must have freedom of choice.

And so, I will go down, and atone for all of their mistakes.

So the very first thing, in the -- the very first argument, in all of the Scriptures, the first argument was over free choice.

Do I have someone make all the decisions to keep me safe, and free from all harm?

Or do I have a savior, that will rebalance things and make sure that you're clean enough?

Because no one can be clean enough!

No one will ever be perfect on earth!

Unless, Satan would say, somebody tells them exactly what they can and cannot do.

Well, that is a misunderstanding of human nature. That is a misunderstanding of God's nature.

So one man, one vote. Yes! Very important.

But then take human nature into account!

Human nature is to just go with their feelings. That's a bad idea. So the whole Constitution is written, to restrain the government, so they cannot make every decision for you, like they're trying to.

This is when people say, government thinks it's God.

Government is their God.

Yes, it is!

Because they want it to make all of the decisions for you. Does that sound like the plan of Jesus? Or the plan of Satan?

So you elect the representatives. They answer to you.

This is why they're the one that holds the purse.

Congress is supposed to be the only one that can initiate pending.

But these people who claim they're for democracy, are just spending it in any way.

It doesn't matter. They hold the purse. They're the closest to you. They're elected every two years.

Why? Because you need to be able to tell your representative, no! That's not what we want. That's why every bill of spending, everything, needs to start with Congress! But what happened to Congress? Why isn't Congress doing everything?

Well, they'll say it's because of the Republicans and the Democrats. No. It's because no one in Washington wants it to work that way! They want to be able to issue dictates! Dictate. Dictate. That's the root word of something else. Oh! A dictator.

They want to issue either an executive order, which is part of the American republic, but they were never meant to be used like this.

All the things that are going through executive order now, are the responsibility of Congress and the Senate!

They were never -- we were never to be ruled by faceless bureaucrats, that no one elected. You want to talk about back to democracy, the EPA.

The ATF. The -- the housing people. The -- the Fed! All of these things, that you never elected. You never elected any of those people. And it's okay if they are hired to be in there to make the system work. But instead, they're making the rules, which become laws.

Only Congress can make laws. But we don't do that anymore. That's why we have to restore the republic. Democracy is happening. And democracy is very important.

But we have to restore the republic. Because the republic part of our democratic republic is broken!

Oh. These -- the -- the lies and the lies from not only the media, but the so-called experts, when are we going to stop listening to these experts?

Well, I'll tell you. I'll tell you. Because the rest of that CNN report, went on. And went back to the people who said, we're a republic. Not a democracy.

And then they couldn't understand. They couldn't define what a republic was.

Well, you're of no help.

You're of no help. That's why we have the experts.

Don't claim something, if you don't -- all knowledge. All information. Everything you believe must be yours.

And it must be purchased at the price, that apparently is too high for somebody -- some people to pay. Most Americans to pay. The price you have for your opinion, is it is your opinion, that you have done some sort of research, you've done some sort of thinking on this. And you haven't taken it from a boob like me, and just, oh, yeah. He said it. And it sounded really good. So we are a republic not a democracy. You can't take what I have spent my lifetime learning and studying, you can't take it from me.

It must be your own. It's like a testimony of God. If you don't have a testimony, that is yours. If you are feasting on somebody else's, you're doomed.

Okay?

It won't work. It will break down. And people will say, well, wait a minute. What about this or this or this.

If you haven't thought of that, then you don't really have a testimony. If you haven't thought -- when I say, well, what is the difference between a republic and a democracy?

If you can't explain that, how do you think can't kids are going to explain it? How do you think you can possibly defend the United States of America?

If we don't know what our rights are, if we don't know why they were established.

See, this is -- give me. Give me a minute.

I'll come back in just a second.

First, let me take a minute here. A break. And tell you about the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.

On June 8th, in a daring daytime raid, Israeli security forces rescued four hostages, held by Hamas terrorists in Gaza.

Some were being held in the homes of Palestinian citizens. A man named Aaron Zamora. Commander of the police special counterterrorism unit.

He was killed during the time rescue. Israel's ground campaign against Hamas continues. Even as Hezbollah is attacking them from the north.

The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has a pledge that they are asking Christians to take.

To stand with their Jewish brothers and centers. To never be silent. The first step in this, is to know why the Jewish people, and why Israel, even exists!

Why does Israel exist?

If you don't know the answer to that, then you're of no help.

Israel exists for one reason, this is just one reason. And that is so they can defend themselves!

Because everywhere Jews go, they end up being the scapegoat. And they can't defend themselves. Because the country will say, well, they're dangerous.

We need to disarm them. Well, no, no, no. We'll protect you.

Then they never do. At least if they have a homeland, they can defend themselves. Anyway, the pledge is to ask you to say, I understand never again. I understand never again is now. At all times. I understand what is happening in the world, and the evil that is happening.

And I, as a Christian, pledge to the Jews all around the world, by neighbors in Israel, everywhere. I will stand with you.

Will you sign this pledge? Go to SupportIFCJ.org. That's SupportIFCJ.org.

And take a stand today. Ten-second station ID.
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Now, let me ask you something: Why would people who say one man, one vote, is so important. Be the leaders on stealing votes.

Why would somebody who really, truly believes in democracy, also at the same time be saying, it's about the collective.

Why?

If you believe in the principle of democracy.

That's the individual, having a voice.

And we have that here in America.

That's part one of our republic. The individual has a voice.

Now, why does the individual have a voice? Because, again, back to the war in heaven. Christ said, I will atone for all of them.

Individually, it wasn't collective, we must. We can't earn it as an individual.

We can't earn it as a collective. But it was personal. An individual to each of us.

Okay. That's where we get all men are created equal. They are created spiritually equal. It doesn't mean they're born in equal families with equal opportunities. Or they'll have equal outcomes.

It means we all are the same in the spirit.

That -- that spark of life is the same in all of us.

And we all have the same rights, no matter what station you were born in. No matter who you are. You still have the same basic human right.

The Gnostics tried to make this into a 1 percent kind of deal. The Gnostics were like, well, not everybody is safe. I mean, those who know. They will be safe.

But not everybody.

This is why we're supposed to treat everyone equally.

This is why we're supposed to treat people like our brothers and sisters.

Because we literally are spiritual brothers and sisters of each other. And if we can get to a point to where we can see the spiritual spark in every human being, even when we meet them.

Even when we don't like them. Even if -- even if they're trying to destroy us. They are still that person! They're still a human being. My brother or sister.

This is why trials are supposed to be done. Justice is blind. Because you're not supposed to look at the R or the D, after their name. You're not supposed to look for the Trump or the Biden. You're supposed to look at the lay, and the claim of the breaking of the law. And the facts. And that's it!

With democracies, you get a mob.

And in the end, you always get the collective. Both of those are evil!

Control Freaks: The 'Scientific' Roots of Progressive Tyranny | The Beck Story | Ep 1
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Control Freaks: The 'Scientific' Roots of Progressive Tyranny | The Beck Story | Ep 1

How did unelected “experts” with their unwavering devotion to “science” rise to such power in American life? More than a century ago, an engineer named Frederick W. Taylor inspired progressive activists with a new concept he called “scientific management.” Future Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis took Taylor’s concept and married it with political power. Brandeis teamed up with President Woodrow Wilson and a powerful senator named Robert La Follette to give the nation an “expert” makeover that Americans were not asking for. This is the story of how a cult of expertise developed among progressives and how these “experts” took a sledgehammer to our constitutional system of government, with far-reaching consequences that still reverberate today. '

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Why Biden Won't Stop "Racist" Government DEI Programs, But Trump Would
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Why Biden Won't Stop "Racist" Government DEI Programs, But Trump Would

Former president Donald Trump has proposed an idea to abolish the income tax and replace it with more tariffs on foreign goods. Is this a good strategy if Trump wins the presidency? Sen. JD Vance gives Glenn his take: "We want to tax production less. We want to tax making stuff in China more...it's a really smart idea to reward [Americans] for making things." Plus, Sen. Vance details his proposal to dismantle ALL federal DEI programs: "The way that our federal government has interpreted [diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives] is to explicitly allow racist decision making."

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And J.D. Vance is on the phone with us. J.D. Vance, senator from Ohio. Also a short list. For Donald Trump.

I'm sure he's going to -- he's just dying to talk about that. Because they always are. Everybody on the short list. They're like, oh, please, ask me about that. So, go ahead.

Spill it. Spill the beans. Spill the beans.

J.D.: My favorite topic.

GLENN: Yeah, I know.

J.D.: I said this, Glenn. I have not talked about Trump about it. Yes, I am aware that they're looking at me. And I think they're probably looking at 20 other people. And I'm sure they will make this decision. And if it's me, like I said, repeatedly, I would be interested in it, because I think it's important to help him. Because if he doesn't win this election, this country is in a tough spot. So that's pretty much it.

GLENN: Now, you were in the meeting with him yesterday, right?

J.D.: I was, yeah.

GLENN: Yeah. Because he said, the guy I'm going to pick is most likely in this room with us now.

J.D.: Oh, I didn't see that.

But unfortunately, for the oddsmakers, there were like 49 other people in the room. So it doesn't help.

GLENN: Yeah. So tell me a little --

J.D.: Yeah. Let me just sort of set the stage. One is a very positive meeting. You obviously have people who are more allied with the president and his agenda. You know, like me and Bill Hagerty and Marco Rubio and so forth.

And you also have people in the rooms, who are very -- you know, even in the last couple of months, have been very critical of the president.

And I think what you saw is just a recognition that we have to unify to the Republican Party. When there's an election.

GLENN: Thank you.

J.D.: And look, there are guys that are running, that I wish their primary opponents had won. And I wish we had a different candidate representing the Republican Party. But there isn't a single person running, at least in the Senate, who I would rather have as a Democrat take their spot.

The other thing that is really interesting, Glenn. You have to realize, the internal psychology of Republican senators right now. They're looking at every single one of these Senate ballots, in the polls.

Suggest that whether it's by five points or 15 points, our Senate candidates are running behind Donald Trump, in the core battle states. If we actually want to take back the Senate with a solid majority.

We need the president to help us close the margin between our guys and his margins.

And I think he will help us do that. As we get down the stretch here.

There's just a recognition here. That you happen into something, especially into this cycle. And if we can get that thing to reverberate to the benefit of our Senate candidate, we can win a major, major victory in the United States Senate.

GLENN: And he was -- he was really kind of conciliatory yesterday. He seemed to be in good spirits.

And, you know, recognizing that we -- you know, we don't all agree on everything.

At least that was the impression that I got from his conversation.

Would you -- would you agree with that?

JASON: Yeah. I agree with that, Glenn. He was extremely friendly.

He was obviously in a good mood. I think, you know, he made -- he was very friendly to Mitch McConnell, of course, who has not always been the best ally of Donald Trump.

He was friendly to everybody in the room. And, you know, he said like, look, even when we disagree, our disagreements pale in comparison to the Democrats.

And we're at this stage. And, you know, I've done this now, Glenn, twice. I've been in politics for two cycles. Where right now, we're sort of in the hurt feelings stage.

Where a lot of people who didn't win primaries, grassroots activists, donors, state chairmen and so forth, they're kind of frustrated. And they're exhausted from the primary season.

And they're not thinking about the future. And I just think, you know, Trump is maybe the only guy in the party who can kind of stand before everybody and say, look. Yeah. Maybe your guy didn't win. Maybe we haven't agreed on everything.

But now it's time to save the country. And to do that, we have to win.

GLENN: He said yesterday, that he was. And I'm going to get to something that you want to talk about. The DEI programs going away, which is so important.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We'll get to you in a second. But one more question on this meeting yesterday with Trump.

He said that he wanted to abolish the income tax, and replace it with tariffs.

J.D.: So that was not in our meeting. I think it may have been in another meeting that take. I saw the headline. That was not in our meeting.

Look, this is a fascinating proposal. And we can talk for a while about it.

But, you know, we have to sort of think about, when we tax something, we get less of it.

And we should ask ourselves. We have to raise revenues for the military. And Social Security and so forth.

GLENN: Correct.

J.D.: What do we actually want to raise revenues from? And my view would be, we want to tax production less. We want to tax making stuff in China more.

Well, that's what a tariff fundamentally does. Whether you get rid of the whole income tax. I think it's a really smart idea to say, we want to reward people for making things. We want to reward productive work. We don't want to reward making stuff in the home country of our chief rival.

And I think that's fundamentally where Trump's head is on this matter.

GLENN: Yeah. Well, I will tell you, I think if we don't take control of the Senate and the House and the White House, we're just going to be treading water at best.

If they win those, we are -- we are done.

They have -- they have put so many deadly fruit trees in all of our agencies, and all of our government.

That I just don't see us being able to survive it. The fundamental transformation will be finished, in the next term.

And you have introduced legislation to dismantle all of the federal DEI programs, from the federal government.

Thank you!

J.D.: Yeah. We have. And to your point about the Senate, Glenn, this -- the Senate, of course, we approved all of the political appointees. And if you want to root out the Deep State of the bureaucracy, you need political appointees who are aligned with the agenda.

And what this legislation does. I'm not an idiot. Joe Biden will not sign it, but Donald Trump would.

And what it would do is really destroy the diversity, equity, and inclusion bureaucracy that exists in our country. And people say, well, who doesn't like diversity, right?

Doesn't diversity mean, you have my Mexican restaurant down the street.

No. The way the federal government has interpreted this. Is to explicitly allow racist decision-making. Primarily targeting white and Asian-Americans. Now in the 21st century.

But explicitly racist decision-making. And contracting and hiring in the provision of grants. Some of these programs, by the way, have been held flatly illegal by the federal courts. For example, there was a farm program, that explicitly excluded white Americans from the provision of farm assistants to our farmers, and that's ridiculous.

You can't discriminate, whether black or white, against people on the basis of their skin color.

This would proactively root this stuff out of our government, and it's a very important first step to getting basic merit back in our federal system, Glenn.

GLENN: Yeah, and I don't think even black farmers would -- would have wanted that.

I mean, maybe some would. But, you know, farmers rely on each other.

And they need to help each other.

Because, you know, if Bill's crop is down year. It might be my crop down this year.

We're all in this together. The last thing you want is now new racial barriers between neighbors.

Where he gets the help from the government, and we don't. It's not a good idea.

GLENN: It's not a good idea at all, Glenn.

And to your point about how black farmers feel about this stuff. If you look at public polling on this. What you consistently find is that black Americans.

And most Americans don't like racial quote as. They don't like racial discrimination. Whether it benefits them. Their group or harms their group.

One group of Americans that seems to really like racial quote as are very high education, white Americans.

GLENN: White. I know.

J.D.: That is the one group. That is the one group that seems -- by the way, they're not going to lose out, when the quota system comes out. Because they pull all the strings.

But they're not doing it for the good of the country. I think they're fundamentally doing it because they look down -- they look down on white Americans who don't have their same education status.

And a lot of -- one of my theories, Glenn. A lot of what is broken about America. High education whites who really hate low education whites.

And I think you see this as a main driver of a lot of very stupid public policy. And, frankly, a lot of very evil public policy in this country. So we have to root it out. That's what I'm trying to do.

GLENN: I mean, it's really -- I mean, this -- can it wasn't like this before. Because our education system was much more local. You know, and -- and not as -- you know, you didn't have all of the smart people, going to this one college. And so they were only surrounded by really, really smart people.

And then get married to the same kind of thinking. You know, you would have a great disparity in -- in education and experience in families.

All the time.

But now, the elites, they wouldn't marry into a farming family. They don't understand it. They don't like it, generally speaking.

JASON: No. That's right. Glenn, so there is this real classism, right?

I think that's a much bigger problem than racism in modern America. But it's actually made our American system much stupider. Because to your point, you know, the smart kids would be woo become doctors and lawyers and engineers. And the kids who didn't like school as much, would sort of do something else. Sort of everybody lived together and worked together. And the community kind of worked together.

When you silo people by education, what we find is that we send people to colleges, and they don't get good training in useful skills.

They increasingly get indoctrinated in how to be crazy people.

Even the educational institutions stop serving their function. When you stratify this thing in a way.

And I think you're seeing evidence of that in our country right now.

GLENN: What are the chances that this even passes?

I know Biden will not sign it. But you think it will even get passed?

J.D.: Look, I don't think it will get out of the Senate. I think the House will support this.

What we're trying to do is plant seeds. One of the things that happened in the 2016 campaign, is Republicans really expected Trump to lose. So when he actually won, there wasn't the foundational work that had been done, to make the -- the -- you know, just to pass a bunch of legislation.

GLENN: Good. Good.

J.D.: We're trying to do that. We're trying to set up the next administration for success.

And at the very least, have a debate about what kind of country we want. Do we want a country that discriminates based on race? I think the answer is no, and I think 90 percent of people agree with me.

GLENN: Do you believe that the -- the next administration can fire enough people, to make a difference in the Deep State?

BRIDGET: I do, Glenn. But it will be one of the most important fights.

I think the two things that hopefully President Trump does in his second term. And I know he wants to do. That will cause massive backlash from the media. We need to support a large number of illegal immigrants that have come here the last number of years.

And we also really need to root out the federal bureaucracy, to make it more responsive. To make it smaller.

But to make it really democratically accountable to the people elected president.

The media will howl about this stuff. They will call it fascism. They will call it every name in the book.

GLENN: It's the opposite!

J.D.: It's the opposite. Exactly. It's accountability.

That's the opposite of fascism. And, frankly, we have fascism at the bureaucratic level. Where people's lives are controlled by people they never elected, right?

That's not democracy. That's not the Republican form of government. So look, this is the most important thing structurally that we have to fix at the government.

I think Trump is committed to it.

And I think the question is: Do you have enough Republicans in there, who have the willpower and the courage to fight alongside of them? And I think that's the big question.

GLENN: I hope -- yeah, well, we have a lot of people like you, where when we did the Tea Party thing years ago, we didn't -- we didn't have -- we just didn't have the people in there, who really, truly had the foundation that they had been thinking about for a long time.

And I think we do now. We have a lot of really good people. We need more. But this is the best chance, of success, that I've seen in -- in a very long time.

The Tea Party turned out to be, you know, we were really fighting the -- the Deep State, in the Republican Party. And I think that one is on its last legs.
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J.D.: We need to win the fight, Glenn. If we don't, I think we could really lose our country.

GLENN: Yes. I agree. JD. Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. Senator J.D. Vance from Ohio. This is a good seed planting. Because DEI does need to go from all of our federal agencies and federal programs.

Thank you so much, J.D. Appreciate it.