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‘Our jaws DROPPED’: Why Kari Lake waited 11 months to release alleged bribery tape

A leaked recording between Kari Lake and Arizona GOP Chairman Jeff DeWit shocked the nation, but it also left a lot of questions unanswered. Did Lake record and leak this tape? Why did she feel the need to record it? Does she have other recordings, as DeWit accused her of in his resignation letter? Does she have any idea who the powerful people “back east” are? And why did she wait 11 months to release this audio? Kari Lake joins Glenn to address all these questions and more.

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GLENN: Welcome to the program, Kari Lake. How are you?

KARI: Hello, I'm doing great.

GLENN: Are you?

KARI: Yes, it has been a pretty good week.

GLENN: Oh, I bet it has been. And arrows are coming your way, everywhere. So, first of all --

KARI: You know what, actually no. I think -- I think a lot of love is coming my way from the people. Arrows have been coming my way for a long time.

The people are just exactly fed up, and they're -- they know this stuff is going on. And I think it just verified that they're not wrong.

This is not the kind of world they're living in. The corrupt world they're living in, in Washington, DC, and in politics.

GLENN: Right.

So -- so let's start kind of at the beginning.

This guy was a friend and a coworker. He claims that we were friends. We were just having conversations.

Do you record all of your conversations, or is there a reason why you had this conversation taped. Did he do it before.

Yeah. Go ahead.

KARI: So why would I record this?

Well, it was about two or three in the afternoon.

And I got a call. From Jeff DeWit. Who was a chairman of the Republican Party. And he said, hey. What are you doing? I have to come and talk to you. I said, I'm a little busy right now.

I'm actually packing for CPAC. I think you might have been at that CPAC, and finishing up my book.

I don't have a lot of time. And you said, well, I'm right in your neighborhood. I will be there in five minutes.

What I have to talk to you about, I have to do in person.

GLENN: Hmm.

KARI: And I said, Jeff, at this point, a lot of people knew -- there was speculation I was going to run for Senate. And I said, if you're trying to talk me out of running for Senate.

And I knew he had some friends who didn't want me to run for Senate. You know, I'm not going to entertain that. And he said, no, no, no, no. Just, I have to come over.

But I can't do it on the phone.

What I have to talk to you about, and I just got a bad feeling about it. I thought, is there going to be a threat?

Why does he have to come to my door and talk to me?

GLENN: I know I would record that conversation as well.

KARI: That's why I recorded it. I just thought, if he's going to threaten me, I need to have this on recording. I never even listened to it back, until this week.

I just said, okay. Go ahead.

GLENN: Okay. So wait a minute.

Had he -- because his resignation letter was bizarre. If I wasn't doing things -- I mean, I've had all kinds of conversations with Stu. But this is what I do, this is what I believe in, and if Stu said, I've got some tape. And, you know, I'm going to expose it. I would be like, I would come on and say, go ahead. Expose it.

We had many conversations, some of them were difficult conversations.

But none of them were unethical or illegal or anything like that. Why would he resign and say, I'm resigning because of her threat, that she's got more tapes.

Do you have more tapes, and did he do other things like this?

KARI: No. I don't -- I don't have more tapes, and that is what is so disturbing about. That he thinks, his behavior is so unethical. That he thinks there's worse stuff out there.

GLENN: Wow.

So you never said that you had more tapes to release? You never gave that threat to him?

KARI: I haven't talked to him, returned any calls. Even texted him in a long time. And this is a bunch of BS. He's saying that I blackmailed him.

I didn't even tell him I'm putting it out. Usually, if there's a blackmail situation, you say, this is going out, if you do that. He didn't even know. Until the media contacted him for comment, you know, he didn't know it was going out. But the fact that he behaves in a way, that he thinks -- I think the response he said, was there's more damaging video out there. Damaging stuff out there. And I'm like, what could be more damaging than a bribery? I mean, what's the heck is going on with this guy?

GLENN: Yeah. So I said when this tape came out. I was really angry, and I said, not other guy should go to the G.O.P. This guy should resign.

If this is illegal, this should be arrested. Anybody involved. If it isn't illegal, it should be illegal.

And I said, it's not just about this guy in Arizona. The most important thing to me, was that a call came from back east.

And the way he said it, it was very knowing.

Do you -- and you don't have to give any names, because if you do, you're going to -- you can get in trouble for slander or whatever.

You know, unless you have something to back it up. Do you have a pretty good idea of who he meant by back east.

KARI: Sure. I don't know.

I mean, I've thought about it long and hard. I've got some guesses that I could make, but I'm not going to do that.

The sad thing though, Glenn, is you can sit there for hours and think about it, and come up with a list of 300, 400, maybe 500 people or groups or organizations, that it could be.

And it says a lot about the state of our government, the state of our political situation.

GLENN: Yes.

KARI: You know, it could be so many different people, it shows you how corrupt Washington, DC, is.

GLENN: Okay. So is anybody -- has anybody reached out to you, from back east, to say, hey, we got to get to the bottom of this? Anybody from the G.O.P.? Nobody?

KARI: No. Nobody from the G.O.P.

I've had some great people reach out to me. Senators who I think are fantastic. Who said, oh, my gosh. You know, we can't wait to get you in the Senate. We need somebody who isn't bought and paid for and influenced.

And you would think, Glenn. And I appreciate you having me on. We've had some great interviews already on this.

But the mainstream media. By the way, I went public of this, within 24 hours. I went public. I flew out of town. Went to CPAC. Changed my entire speech.

And I just talked about this. I said, I got bribed by a pretty big political person to stay out of politics. You know, basically, offering me, how much would it take to make you stay out?

And I brought -- my whole speech I kind of wrapped around this. And the mainstream media didn't reach out and say, who bribed you? What?

GLENN: Can I tell you something, Kari.

I mean, I've had those things before. I've had things like this happen to me before, and I've referenced them.

But I didn't have a tape.

Why did you not -- because I would have had you on the next day, had I thought that you had proof of it. And maybe -- it was just me for dropping the ball here.

Why did you wait for the tape to be released, or to say, I have a tape of it?

KARI: Well, I didn't want to release anything. And I also didn't listen to anything.

I taped it, because I was afraid there was going to be a physical threat. And when there wasn't. I just kind of put that file away, when never even dealt with it. But I felt like going public with it, the next day, or the next hour, when I went on the CPAC stage. And since then -- again, this was 11 months ago.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

I was there. I heard you, and it didn't occur to me, to ask you if you have evidence of it, and I'm sorry. I should have.

KARI: No. That's okay.

GLENN: Well.

KARI: But I didn't listen to it, until this week. I mean, went, oh, my gosh. I have a recording of that. And I was eating dinner with my husband. My daughter was eating dinner with us.

And I happened to -- I tracked it down, and found it. Hit play while we were eating dinner. And literally, as vivid as I recalled it, I think when I did my speech at CPAC, I described it pretty well. Our jaws dropped to the floor. We were shocked. I went, oh, my gosh. This is so much worse, than I even remembered it being.

And my daughter was shocked. She said, tell me that guy does not work in politics anymore.

I said, he heads up the Arizona G.O.P.

And she said, what are you going to do about it, mom. And I thought. I didn't really want to put that out. But how disappointing, when your kids hear something like that. And you just sit on it.

GLENN: Well, I will tell you, you won a primary, did you not?

KARI: In the -- in the governor's race, yes.

GLENN: Yeah. No, not -- primary happens when, in Arizona?

KARI: In August.

GLENN: Oh, jeez.

KARI: I'm up 40 points against the competitor.

GLENN: How many points?

KARI: Depending on the poll, 30 or 40 points, so not really --

GLENN: So here's the amazing thing, that somebody back east. Powerful people, really want you to go away. They don't want you in the Senate.

I know that there's a big Senate fund. And I'm not making any accusations. But I know there's a big Senate fund, that is -- that the G.O.P. has, that is controlled by one individual.

Who does have a -- a pattern of supporting people that are not MAGA, at any cost. Even if it means we lose a Senate race.

And they're not going to get behind you. First of all, if you're leading by 30 or 40 points, then you're the obvious candidate, let the people of Arizona decide.

But you should be getting support from the G.O.P.

And if somebody is -- is trashing our system. And they are offering bribes so people go away.

That all has to be exposed.

I can't call out corruption on the other side. If I don't call it out on our side.

KARI: Oh, 100 percent.

I don't want corruption anywhere. I don't want it on the left. I don't want it on the right.

GLENN: No. I don't either.

KARI: And right now, Glenn. It seems we have a lot of corruption on the Republican Party.

And I think a lot of it is resistance to Trump.

They don't want Trump running.

And I don't know if it is because he will reveal a lot of the corruption.

Frankly, I want people going to Washington, DC.

Who Washington, DC, doesn't want.

GLENN: Oh, me too. Go ahead.

KARI: The media now is covering this. And they're trying -- oh, he was just offering her a jobs. You talk about -- you have conversations with your friends. You run a business. Have you ever had a conversation like -- this is not normal.

GLENN: No.

KARI: Anyone who runs a business, if this is the kind of normal conversations, you're having, you're probably in the Mafia.

GLENN: Well, quite honestly, I mean, it makes -- it says a lot about people who leave Congress, and before they run for another higher office, they go to work for these companies.

And seem to bide their time.

There have been accusations by the guy who did it, that you edited the tape.

Is there any truth to that?

KARI: I put 11 -- ten or 11 minutes that involved the bribe.

And I don't know how you could say that was -- I forget the word he used.

GLENN: Out of context.

KARI: Yeah. Some sort.

How do you take ten minutes of bribery out of context?

GLENN: Stu and I were talking about this yesterday. And I said, the only way it can be taken out of context, is if the sentence before was, everything I'm about to say, I'm totally making up, Kari.

That's the only way to take it out of context.

KARI: Or, I've got to describe a scene from a movie, I mean, watched.

GLENN: Yes. Yes. But that -- but the tape you gave us, is --

KARI: He said it was creative editing. Yes. The tape I gave you, is an honest tape. I pulled ten or 11 minutes. I forget. I think it's a little over ten. Of him trying to bribe me.

GLENN: But you did not splice around or edit anything out of those 11 minutes.

KARI: Nope. It's all of the bribery part. And I didn't say, hey, welcome -- can I I get you a cup of coffee, all of that.

But this is not taken out of context. This is not creative editing. Creative editing would be a 30-second clip. This is -- this is a conversation about him bribing me.

There's no ifs, ands, and buts. And he's afraid there's worse stuff out there. It tells you a lot about him.

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Joe Rogan & Glenn AGREE: We just got CLOSER to civil war

Joe Rogan recently warned that we may have gotten to Step 7 of 9 in the lead-up to civil war. Glenn reviews the 9 Steps and explains why he believes Rogan nailed this one. But Glenn also lays out what Americans MUST do to reverse this trend...

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GLENN: So if you take what Fetterman said yesterday about how people are cheering for him to die on the left, and then you couple it with something that was on the Joe Rogan show on Tuesday. He was saying that the reaction to the death of Charlie Kirk makes him think that the US is closer to Civil War than -- than he thought.

Now, let me quote him. He said, after the Charlie Kirk thing. I'm like, oh, my.

We might be at seven. This might be he step seven on the way to a bona fide Civil War. Charlie Kirk gets shot, and people are celebrating.

Like, whoa. Whoa. Whoa.

You want people to die that you disagree with?

Where are we now on the scale of Civil War?

Well, let me go over the scale of Civil War, because it's sobering.

Now, none of this has to be true. If we wake up and decide, I don't want to do this anymore!

Okay?

Here's step one.

Step one. Loss of civic trust.

Every civil conflict begins when people stop believing that the system is fair. Are we there?

We're so far -- we're so far past the doorway, we are comfortably asleep on the couch on this one. Gallup and Pew both show trust in Congress, the media courts, and the FBI government are now at record lows.

The Edelman Trust Barometer classifies the US now as severely polarized. Majority of Republicans distrust federal elections. Majority of Democrats don't trust the Supreme Court.

Americans are really united on one thing, and that is the other side is corrupt!

When faith in the rules collapses, the republic begins to wobble. But that's step one. Step two, polarization hardens into identity!

Political disagreement is normal!

Identity conflict is fatal!


But that's what Marxists push. Identity politics. This is when politics stopped being about policy, and started being about who you are as a person.

Have we crossed this one into step two?

I mean, we're neck deep into this. A study on this, from PRRI.

It's a survey, found 23 percent of Americans believe political violence may be necessary to save the that I guess.

I think that's an old study. Americans now sort themselves by ZIP code into ideological enclaves. The big sort: Universities, activists, corporations. Everybody is promoting oppressor versus oppressed.

And that -- does what?

It puts us into incompatible tribes. Opponents aren't wrong anymore. The opponent is dangerous!

If I go back and you look at civil wars, Lebanon, before 1975. Yugoslavia, before 1991. That's -- we're doing that. Okay?

Step three. Breakdown of the gatekeepers. The gatekeepers are kind of like the referees of society. It's the media, political parties, churches, civic leaders.

When they fail, extremism fills the vacuum. Okay. Where are we on this? Have our gatekeepers failed us?

Yeah. I think both parties, especially the left, you know, everything I predicted that the left was going to be eaten by the extreme left, and then the communists and the socialists is now happening.

They've lost control of the fringe of each party. Media transformed, you know, from referees into team coaches. Tech platforms. It's outrage for profit. Universities are not there to cool things down. They heat them up.

Churches. Churches are useless. Useless.

When the referees leave the field, the game devolves into a brawl. And the refs are gone off the field. So there are only nine steps. We're at step four. Here's step four.

Are you ready for this one?

Parallel information realities.

Civil wars don't require different opinions. They require different realities.

I remember reading about Germany, at the beginning of, you know, the Nazi era. How the two new newspapers. One was propaganda for the government.

And the other one, it was the last one that was kind of the holdout.

And they said, you could read them, and they would cover the same thing.

But they had almost no information was the same. Except, that happened yesterday.

Here's what they said. And then everything else was different. That's exactly -- I mean, step four is complete!

We can't agree on facts, right?

Crime rates. Border numbers. Inflation. Election security.

Two Americans can watch the same video. And see opposite truths.

Social media algorithms are creating customized political universes.

Digital echo chambers. Deepfakes. We're just at the beginning of that. And both sides accuse the other of running disinformation machines.

Why? Because we don't have a shared reality. So if you don't have a shared reality. How do you settle any dispute?

On the nine steps, we're up to number five. Coming in at number five.

Loss of neutral rule of law.

This out of the nine steps with, five is the pivot point.

It's not corruption, it's the belief that the law is no longer neutral.

Are we there yet?

Let me tell you the CBS you.gov poll. 67 percent say the justice system is used for political purposes.

I think that's low. January 6 defendants given years in prison, 2020 rioters were released. High profile political figures, prosecuted or shielded based on party.

FBI whistle-blowers alleging pressure to inflate domestic extremism numbers. States like Texas, directly defying federal directives, on border enforcement.

And now, leading the way, with the federal government.

History is really cold and unforgiving on this point.

Once the people believe justice is political! Remember, this is the turning point.

The republic stands on borrowed time. Once you no longer believe that justice is achievable. Step six.

Are we there?

I think we are.

Step six. Normalization of political violence!

This is where violence stops shocking the system. Are we there?

Remember, where violence stops shocking the system. Look at evidence just from Virginia. What they just voted for.

He was calling for the death of a -- a political opposition.

Calling for his children to be killed.

Was called on it, never apologized.

Never said anything other than, yeah. I know. He dug it deeper.

Was anyone shocked by it? Apparently not. They elected him. Here's the evidence. 2020 riots.
574 events. $2 billion in damage. Was anybody outraged by that? Or was it downplayed and excused?
Assassination attempts. Assassination attempts against the president. Supreme Court justice.

Fistfights. And mob actions on college campuses. To silence speakers. Rising to do for punching a fascist or stopping genocide. Depending on the ideology. Online chatter discussing Civil War, national divorce, and revolution.

When violence becomes part of the political language, a nation crosses an invisible line. We're now up to step seven out of nine.

This is where Joe Rogan said, are we at step seven?

The rise of militias and parallel forces.

When a state loses he is monopoly on force.

Countdown accelerates. So where are we on this one?

I think we're seeing, maybe early signs of this.

You're starting to see the -- the states kind of organize these mobs, you know, to go after ICE.

Right?

Armed groups, right-wing, left-wing radical secessionists. Anyone.

Once they start forming their own police forces. Or their own option forces, then you have -- then you have everything really falling apart.

Entirely!

I don't think we're there, yet!

But we're starting to see the beginnings of this.

Step eight. The trigger event.

Civil Wars don't begin with a plan. They begin with a spark.

So where are we?

We're not here yet. The conditions are right. Potential triggers, disputed election in '26 or '28.

Political assassination or major attack.

Supreme Court decision that ignites mass unrest.

Financial crisis or dollar crisis.

A state federal standoff turning violent!

Nothing is ignited yet, but the room is soaked in gasoline. So we don't have seven. We're on the verge of eight, at any time. And here's nine.

This is the point of no return.

When police, military, or federal agencies split, even if no one calls it that, well, where are we?

Well, I just read a story about how with the Mamdani election in New York, a good number of the police force is going to leave. And they're going to go join police forces elsewhere. You also have the tension between the state National Guard, and the federal directives, the state guard and the state directives. Law enforcement recruitment is at crisis lows. The distrust of the FBI, DOJ, CIA. Tens of millions of Americans. I always really respected those institutions. I have no respect for them now. If you have states openly defying federal rules on immigration, drug laws, sanctuary policies.
Whistle-blower claims of internal politicization.

All of these things are in play for the first time in 150 years, people can imagine!

So I give this to you, not to be fearful of, but to know where you are. As a map!

Know where you are.

And hopefully, it might wake some people up, if you chart America on, on the nine step model of Civil War. Steps one through four, completed!

Step five, happening!

Step six, happening! Step seven, beginning! Step eight, just waiting for it. And step nine, avoidable, only if step eight, never happens. Again, I'm not telling you for doom purposes, this is diagnosis. This is a doctor going, I want you to look at the chart.

And this is a doctor saying, I want you to look at -- do you see what's happening to your body?

If you don't stop this habit, you are going to die. You don't have to die. You can stop smoking and drinking right now. You can start exercising. But if you don't, you are going to die.

The question is, are we the nation that says, nah, that's not going to happen to me. Or are we the nation that wakes up and sees our chart and says, good heavens, it's way far more gone than I thought it was. But I feel something in the air.

I'm going to change my behavior. The nation that refuses to look and wake up and stop calling their neighbors enemies, is the nation that fails!

We have to strengthen these things that have already fallen. And, you know what, the easiest one to do is?

Church. Where are you ministers and pastors priests and rabbis?

Where the hell are you?

I think there's going to be a special section for you, when you cross over to the -- because you're doing things in the name of God!

So when you get to the other side, I think there's going to be a special section for those who remained silent. While his rights were being taken away.

You don't own that right.

I don't own that right.

The Lord gave us those rights, and said, protect them!

By you, being the representative, the voice box, if you will, of the Lord, to shepherd his people. By you not standing up and saying, hey, by the way, we have -- we have a moral responsibility to protect these rights for the next generation! By you refusing because you're afraid. Because I think, there's no politics in the Bible! There's no politics in the Bible. Really?

The whole thing is about politics. Is about the moral way you have to live your life.

Calling things as you see them. Calling them back to eternal principles.

He didn't tell anybody how to vote. Render to Caesar what is Caesar's.

But there are certain principles that you have to have, or you lose not only this citizenship, but the next citizenship. The one that really matters. And, boy, if you are doing it because you're a coward, you are in the wrong business!

Get out of the pulpit, and go to work at Jack in the Box.

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Democrat “SMOKING GUN” on Trump & Epstein gets DESTROYED by facts

The House Oversight Democrats recently released "new" emails allegedly proving President Trump lied about his knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. However, Glenn points out a glaring issue with these emails that destroys their entire narrative...

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GLENN: Well, let's dive right into the Epstein Maxwell emails. My gosh, Stu!

Why are they trying to cover up that Donald Trump had sex with children!

STU: I mean, it's just clear, as -- as day, in the emails!

GLENN: Yeah. No.

STU: He spent hours with one of the victims. What else could have possibly have occurred in that arrangement? We don't know!

GLENN: And it's -- it's one of the victims, Stu. One of the victims!

STU: One of the victims, that's all we know. One of the victims.

GLENN: Let me read what Jeffrey Epstein wrote. I want you to realize that the dog who hasn't barked is Trump. Victim redacted. Victim spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned. Police chief, et cetera.

Okay. New information, just released. Or is it?

Because in 2011, 2011, that was released and everybody knew it. It's been out floating around. Here's the change: In 2011, this is what it read.

I want you to realize that the dog hasn't barked is Trump. Virginia spent hours at my house with him.

Why would you redact a name that is already out in the public square!

It's already out!

The memo is already out. The email is already out. It's been out for years. Why would you redact that name now?

Well, because it makes it all of a sudden, new and shiny. Shiny and new. If you don't know who said it, you see victim, and you're like, oh, you see victim. Who is the victim?

I don't know. But when you know it's Virginia, you know this has already gone to court. This is -- she already testified about this!

He didn't partake in any of this, any sex with any of it. It's true. He didn't partake in any sex with us, and I'm quoting, this is from the testimony. But it's not true, that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me. Have you ever met him?

Yes, at Mar-a-Lago, my dad and him. I wouldn't say they were friends, but my dad knew him, and they would talk. Have you ever been in Donald Trump or Jeffrey Epstein's presence with one another? No!

What's the basis of your statement that Donald Trump is a good friend of Jeffrey? Jeffrey has told me that Donald Trump is a good friend of his.

He didn't partake in any of -- any of the sex with any of it. He flirted with me.

It's true, that he didn't partake in any sex with us. But it's not true that he flirted with me.

So I don't understand that. But she goes on. Donald Trump never flirted with me!

Okay. So what -- what's new about this?

This is the same girl, this is the same person that -- didn't she work at Mar-a-Lago?

Or she was going to get a job at Mar-a-Lago.

STU: Yeah. I believe she did at one point.

GLENN: Yeah. So we know they know each other. We know they know each other.

We know that at Mar-a-Lago, Jeffrey Epstein would come, and he was poaching the employees. The girls there. To go work for him.

And Donald Trump went to him. And said, "Hey, man. Stop it. Stop poaching people from me. That's not cool. Don't do it." And then he said, "Oh, yeah. All right." And then he did it a second time. And he's like, "You know what, you're out. I don't want you here anymore. I asked you not to do it, and you did it." Now, that doesn't mean that he knew what was happening to the girls or what was happening or anything else.

And even if it did mean something was happening with the girls, he was saying, "Hey. Stop it! Don't take any of the girls or the women here.
Don't do it." I don't believe he knew anything about any of this. But God only knows! And really, God only knows!

This is not new news. Donald Trump, he might end up beating Bezos as the richest man on the planet! When all is said and done!

Because, again, the -- they're presenting this as new fact, a giant scandal. Stu, I don't know if you know this. This is -- this breaking news is a giant scandal.

STU: Yeah. I've heard democratic representatives saying that over the past 24 hours. Yeah. We need to investigate this.

This is shocking stuff. It's a massive scandal. Even ABC News, I heard, pushed back against this. And said, well, what scandal? What are you implying occurred here?

We know who the victim was. We know the victim. Like why. Why did you even redact that name?

And they're like we always redact name of victims.

Do you really? When they're already out publicly?

Not to mention, this particular victim is not even alive.

You know, she sadly died. I mean, it's a terrible, terrible story.

GLENN: Terrible story.

STU: Yeah. She passed away.

A suicide. It was at least the report I believe. But she has a posthumous book coming out. But like a terrible, terrible story.

But, you know, to act as if you have to protect her identity when, number one, she's dead.

GLENN: Is ridiculous.

STU: Number two, everybody already knows who she was, including the news sources, who also have a policy, you would think.

And ABC has a policy. They redact, that was in this type of situation. But it's already been out. We already knew who it was.

So they redacted to make it look like he's with other people who have not already told us nothing bad occurred! You know, and it is an absolutely awful tactic. And at least --

GLENN: I think litigation should follow again. I think he should sue them again. Anyone who is presenting this as new information.

ABC did their job. Congratulations for ABC. They did their job.

They pointed out, this is not new information.

Why would you redact. Why are you releasing this now? And you're redacting a name this -- this email is already out!

You're presenting this as a new scandal.

And you redacted that name. This is completely dishonest. The news media shouldn't even run with it. They shouldn't even run with it. They should have said, old news. Old news. And if you did run with it, you should have handle it had like ABC handle it had. Wait a minute. Why did you redact name.

What do you mean that there's a new scandal. She already testified exactly opposite of what you're believing Jeffrey Epstein over the victim right now. I just want to make sure you understand the Democrats right here. You're taking the name of Epstein, over the victim.

Oh, okay. All right.

STU: And Epstein doesn't even say that anything occurred.

GLENN: No.

STU: There's not -- it's just -- it would be something you would have to jump to a conclusion, to accuse Donald Trump of something like this.

And we know what happened, because the victim said nothing!

Said, it was nothing!

GLENN: Right.

STU: In fact, it wasn't even a flirtation. Which, by the way, even that, you might have thought was creepy. It wasn't even a crime.

It wasn't even flirtation. So it's a disgrace in every single way.

GLENN: All right. So let me take you here. Let me take you here.

If you remember when the shutdown first started, what did the Democrats say, the reason why they did the shutdown?

Not them! Why Mike Johnson and everybody else wouldn't negotiate!

Why wouldn't -- why wouldn't the Republicans negotiate?

Because the heat was on, to release the Epstein files.

And they didn't want to have to do that. So they shut the government down!

Okay?

They wouldn't negotiate. You didn't hear any of this? Oh, it's so arrogant.

STU: It doesn't make any sense at all. That's probably what they said.

GLENN: I know. I know. So the government is open, and what does Mike Johnson do yesterday?

He said the House is going to vote on a bill to release all of the files related to the late financier, convicted child sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein next week. He said on Wednesday that a discharge position to bypass leadership and force a vote on the bill, hit the benchmark for needed signatures. It's been decided by him to expedite the vote for the bill, which under the current rules could have been delayed until at least early September.

So he says, as soon as that petition hit, the needed 218 signatures, I brought it up. Unanimous consent. Let's go! Release it.

So he's pushing this forward. Good, Mike!
Release all of it. Thank you!

Get it out. Lance this boil.

I mean, if anybody thinks that you're ever going to get the truth on this in the first place, it's madness. It's madness. Everybody -- I mean, so many important people were involved in this, and it was in the hands of the Democrats for the longest time. Okay?

So they had all of this information. You don't think it was all picked through? And if there was anything about Donald Trump, you don't think that would have come up between 2020 and 2024?

There's nothing in there about Donald Trump. These people are so stupid. This time, we've got him, boys. This time, we've got him.

No, you don't. This time, it's like Wile E. Coyote. This time, we've got the Roadrunner!

No. You're never going to catch him on this. It doesn't work. The guy was the most investigated person in the history of the world, and you've got nothing! Now, it's good to come out.

But if you think you're going to catch a bunch of people on the left, you're not going to. Because they had it, you know, in their possession.

You don't think all of the names were taken out? You don't think things were destroyed, if there was anything? I believe there was something. But I don't believe there's any names in it anymore. You're not going to get the truth on this one. You're just not going to get the truth, but release everything that we have. Everything!

Oh. Oh, by the way, also in the Epstein emails. How come nobody is talking about this one, Stu?

This one is from Michael Wolff, to Jeffrey Epstein. And then Jeffrey Epstein responds.

So Michael Wolff writes, "What's the thumbnail on Nes Baum (phonetic) Foster?"

And Jeffrey Epstein writes back, "Nes Baum White House Counsel, dot, dot, dot, Hillary doing naughties with Vince."

Now, Vince Foster killed himself, you know, and then killed himself at the White House. And then drug himself across the street to the park.

I mean, I don't know -- the Vince Foster thing is so old. And it doesn't -- but why is nobody talking about that one?

Why is no one talking about that?

Also, this the Jeffrey Epstein email bundle, ABC, you don't feel that's necessary to bring that one up?

Huh. Interesting.