RADIOMay 21, 2024

Why Michael Cohen's CONFESSION Could TANK the Trump Hush Money Trial

Former Trump attorney Michael Cohen keeps making things worse and worse for the prosecution that he's supposed to be helping. Glenn and Stu provide the latest update: Cohen has admitted to stealing from the Trump Organization and lying about it. The media has tried to paint this confession as just "another big ding." But Glenn argues that this is more akin to a massive car wreck that could topple the trial. However, has this jury already made up its mind — similar to what happened in OJ Simpson's case — so that nothing can change its mind?

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GLENN: All right. Let's get an update here on what just happened in the -- in the Cohen and Donald Trump trial. There's -- Cohen is still on the stand. Oh, my gosh. It's going to be the longest days of his life. He is being cross-examined.

Remember, he's the key witness, in this Donald Trump trial with Stormy Daniels.

STU: And he's really -- without Cohen, there isn't even a case to be brought. You have to believe Cohen. Because much of the evidence that you would need, to make Donald Trump into the bad guy here is specifically based on things that Cohen has said or done. And has sole knowledge of.

He's the only person who has knowledge of it. So you have to trust Cohen.

GLENN: Yeah. It all went true him. He's the guy, who if he dropped dead, hit by a bus, the whole thing would be gone.

STU: And just to remind listeners, the -- you know, the -- the Michael Cohen situation is not a good one. It was never a good one when Trump was there. I believe he won our least reliable human being on earth competition for five straight years.

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

STU: He was not reliable back then. Substantiate reliable now. The media has tried to rehabilitate him, because they need him for this case.

So the attorney for Trump is questioning, and going after Michael Cohen to try to make him look as credible as he actually is. Which is not at all.

And he went to him, and talked to him about a specific transaction with a company called Red Finch. Red Finch was an IT kind of company that Michael Cohen was kind of dealing with. And what they were doing with this company, at the time was somewhat embarrassing, I suppose.

They were trying to rig online polls in Trump's favor. So remember about the time, these polls would come out. Who do you think should win the Republican nomination?

This is the 2016 election.

And Trump would win overwhelmingly

Even when he wasn't winning in the normal polls.

He would win on the other polls.

GLENN: This is why we said, the online polls are ridiculous.

Everybody rigs it. Everybody.

STU: Yeah. Although, this is --

GLENN: No. No. No. To some degree.

People will be like, I will vote. Hey, vote on this. Vote on this.

Vote a million times. Whatever it is.

STU: This is apparently a professional effort to do that. And they were owed $50,000 for their efforts in this front.

Now, Cohen, apparently. And this all happened on the stand.

Cohen was supposed to pay $50,000 to this company.

But ended up only paying them $20,000.

He still, however, asked for a 50,000-dollar reimbursement from the Trump organization.

Blanch, the attorney asked Cohen, hey, did you lie about this?

Cohen, on the stand says, yes.

Admits that, yes. He did lie about this.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait.

He just admitted. I just want to make sure everybody understands.

He just admitted to cheating a company out of 30 grand.

Asking his own company. Or his own firm.

Donald Trump's firm to pay the 50,000 to him. Which he was supposed to pay. He only pays 20.

And what does he do with the other 30?

STU: I mean, he pockets it.

It's interesting. The reporting on it. It's a little hard to tell, whether he actually said this. Or whether he just sort of agreed to it.

But he was -- blanch, the attorney, brought up the possibility of him having the money in either a tussle bag, or a brown paper bag.

GLENN: That's where I like to keep my money.

It's safe that way.

STU: It's the Fani Willis banking system. That's -- that's the way that works.

So he -- he goes to this. And he says, okay. You have this duffle bag of cash.

Where was the cash?

He goes after him on this.

He then tries to focus. What he says true. Of course, if you're an employee of a company. And you're working on a company. And you charge someone $50,000.

And then pocket $30,000. That's -- what we all recognize, is theft.

GLENN: Embezzlement or theft.

STU: Yeah. You're just stealing money from the company that gave you $50,000.

GLENN: Wait a minute. I just want to make sure, Stu, Sara, you both understand that concept, right?

That's theft.

STU: I'm not sure what he's saying. Sara.
(laughter)

STU: Are you there?

GLENN: Okay. Go ahead.

STU: So the Trump attorney says, and tries to get this down. Get everyone to understand it.

In case people don't understand. This is stealing.

He says, quote, you stole from the Trump organization. Right?

He, by the way, was -- Cohen was reimbursed for about $100,000 in these expenses. Because he was always double the expenses from taxes.

About $100,000 in all.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.

What do you mean he was getting doubled for taxes?

STU: If he took $50,000 to do one of these shady dealings. Like he did with Stormy Daniels. The Trump organization would pay him basically double. So Cohen wouldn't get stuck with the tax bill.

So Cohen would pay the taxes as if it was income. And then he would still be left over with the same amount he paid to Stormy Daniels or in this case, this IT organization.

GLENN: Got it.

STU: So he's -- the quote is, you stole from the Trump organization, right? From the attorney. Cohen admits, yes, sir. He says, on the stand.

Now, even the New York Times writes this up this way, there is another -- this is another big ding to Cohen's credibility.

GLENN: Ding?

STU: Yes. Jurors have heard he's lied to Congress, tax authorities, and on the witness stand. And now they are hearing that he stole from the Trump organization.

GLENN: Now, I've had dings in my car.

STU: Yes.

GLENN: I would say this was a massive wreckage, where the car would be totaled.

STU: I would argue they totaled the car on this one. I don't know how you could possibly believe this guy anyway. Now, if there were text messages or other things supporting it, maybe you could say, all right. Well, he's telling the story.

There are a few other pieces of evidence that agree with it. And that has happened on some points during this case.

But generally speaking, they are relying almost solely on Michael Cohen to be the voice of credibility.

And now we know that not only has he lied to everyone else in his life. By the way, including his wife.

We didn't even include that on the list. Who he lied to, when he took out all of this money on a second mortgage, and tried to hide it from her by his own admission. He's admitted to lying to all of these people.

Basically, you're supposed to believe, that he's taken every moment of his entire life. And filled it with lies.

With every person he's ever dealt with, except this one moment where he's sitting in front of you, on the witness stand.

GLENN: Okay. So here me out on this theory.

O.J. Simpson.

I think this is a -- this is a political version of what happened to O.J. Simpson.

And I hope it doesn't turn that way in the end. But if they find him guilty, it will be exactly what happened with the O.J. Simpson case, except this is political, not racial.

The jury hates him. Donald Trump so much, that no matter what the facts say, they'll deem him guilty.

Where O.J. Simpson, the jurors wanted a black man to beat the system. Beat the man.

So badly, that they admitted now, they voted for not guilty, even though they believe the facts led to guilty.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: I hope that doesn't happen. But that's what this feels like to me.

Because it's in New York. Any other place. But in New York, can you get -- with this judge, can you get a trial, that -- and with the jurors, enough jurors to tell the truth?

And, by the way, just like, you remember -- were you old enough to remember the O.J. Simpson trial?

STU: Oh, yeah. I certainly do.

GLENN: So O.J. Simpson. If you remember right, there was speculation, can the trial -- can the jurors ever identify themselves, if they find him guilty?

Because the black community was so for O.J. Simpson. And I would ask the same thing.

Can these jurors, all from New York City, can they live a normal life and not -- and live without danger, if they release him?

STU: Because -- certainly won't get invited to many parties, I will tell you that.

GLENN: No. What are all of the other factors that are coming into this?

This is tough.

STU: Isn't there a moment here for you, Glenn. Where you think a little bit about the legal system, and the fact that it's supposed to work.

And that we have a tradition of people, judging these people honestly. Isn't there at least a possibility that the hung jury. Isn't there one or two people on this jury, maybe, that look at this as this is a joke?

GLENN: It only needs one. It only needs one.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: And it is my hope, that there is one that will hold out and say, no way. No way. I will not change my vote. No.

I don't care what you guys say. No.

Hopefully, we can pray that there's one person.

I mean, assuming, we're not in the jury room.

But what it looks like here, this is -- this is a -- this is an assault on our judicial system. Just like I think O.J. Simpson was an assault on the judicial system.

I understood that one a little more. Because the black man had been, you know, just raped in our judicial system for so long.

That I kind of -- it was still a travesty, and awful. And I hated it. But you could see it.
This one is merely politics. That's it.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Politics.

STU: They see this as their last opportunity to win an election in a way.

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

STU: And the other three trials probably aren't going to happen before the election. Obviously, if Trump wins, he will throw out two of them. Right? The federal stuff will all be thrown out.

This is a -- this feels like their last chance, and they're looking at this like an opportunity.

And, you know, coming into this case, Glenn. It was a weak case. Everyone knew that. The fact that it's gone so much more poorly than they even expected.

Has to rise to some level of -- of --

GLENN: You would think.

STU: Of opportunity for this to be -- I mean, doesn't it?

If you have any faith in the legal system. And look, criminals do go to jail in New York.

It's not like every single time they're wrong.

GLENN: Do they?

STU: Yeah. I think that's true. I'm pretty sure. I'm sure Harvey Weinstein is out there walking around. Forget that example.

GLENN: The plans of New York are all just -- keep Harvey away from me.

STU: Right. I mean, they don't charge anybody in New York, for crimes anymore, unless your last name is Trump.

But if you think about the average person in New York. Again, remember, the Trump attorneys had a chance to throw out anyone they thought was massively liberal and against Trump. To an extent.

GLENN: To an extent.

STU: To an extent. They did their best to find people they thought would be fairly by.

I mean, if we were really at the point where they can't find anyone to judge this rationally. We are at a real crossroads, as far as our legal system goes entirely. Right?

This is not just a question about Donald Trump and this election, it's far beyond that.

PAT: Alan Dershowitz said it. This is banana republic time.

This AI could change EVERYTHING by next year

With Elon Musk’s announcement of Grok 4, humanity is closer than ever before to creating AGI – artificial general intelligence – which would change everything. Glenn Beck breaks down what’s coming in the next year with AI, which even Elon Musk called “terrifying.”

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GLENN: Let me tell you the biggest story of the day.

And I think it is the biggest story possibly of all mankind, as of today.

It's going to change rapidly.

I don't know if anybody -- did either of you guys watch the Elon Musk thing last night?

STU: No, I did watch a few minutes of it.

GLENN: Okay. Did you, Jason?

JASON: No. I sure didn't.

GLENN: Okay. So the xAI team was there to unveil Grok 4. This is the latest intelligence, and let me be very, very clear.

Last night was not your typical tech launch. This is a moment that demands everyone's full attention.

We are now at the crossroads, where promise and peril are going to collide. Okay?

I have explained to you, for years, AGI.
AI. AGI. And ASI. Narrow intelligence is what we've always had.

General intelligence is the next step. And that is, it's better that man, one -- one, you know, like Grok. Can do everything. That you can do.

Better that you can do.

Okay?

And then there's super intelligence. ASI.

Artificial super intelligence.

That's when things get really, really creepy.

When you hit AGI, the road to ASI could be overnight.

Okay?

We need to understand what's at stake here. Because Grok four brought us closer to that second stage, than ever before.

Grok four is a powerhouse. They demonstrated it last night.

It surpasses the expertise of Ph.D.-level sailors in all fields.

It can get 100 percent on any -- any test for any field, mathematics, physics. Engineering.

You name it.

This is not a search engine.

This is a system that tackles problems, so intricate, they -- they go beyond our existing knowledge base.

Okay?

Let's say there is -- let's say, we have a fusion reactor. And the magnetic containment system goes down. I don't even know what I'm talking about at this point.

But it goes down.

And the top minds all on earth are like, I don't know what to do. Grok 4 can step in, model the physics, design new material, stabilize the system, and avert catastrophe. And it can do it about that fast. Now, this is the capability, that Musk says is just around the corner.

Mark my words. You know, how many -- how many years did I say, between 2027 and 2030, we would start to see this?

STU: Oh, a million times.

That was always --

GLENN: For years. Right? Yeah, always the window.

And everybody, even Ray Kurzweil said, oh, that's way too optimistic. We may be 2050.

And then people started going, 2040, 2030.

Grok shows us 2026 or 2027 is when we're going to hit it. This is the last year, that we have, before things get really weird.

Okay?

Last night, Elon Musk is touting this -- this AI.

And all of the solutions.

And then he says.

Hmm. Probably three times.

Something like this.

And I'm quoting. This is one of them.

It's somewhat unnerving to have created intelligence that's greater than our own.

He then goes on to call it terrifying, twice.

Now, this is a man who has launched rockets, you know, into orbit.

Going to Mars.

And he says, twice!

You know, after he sees the results of it. He says, you know, it's really -- in a way, quite terrifying to see what it's doing.

But we just have to make sure that it remains good!

Oh, okay.

All right. Sure.

Now, the key point in the announcement was the mention of ARC-AGI.

I had never heard of ARC-AGI. I had no idea what it was. But I noticed AGI. And I went, uh-oh. That sounds important. So this is the gold standard. The bench mark testing for artificial general intelligence.

Okay.

As I've said before, AGI. Artificial General Intelligence is a machine that matches all human cognition, across all domains.

Reasoning, creativity.

Problem solving. Not just specialized tasks like playing Go or analyzing x-rays. Everything. For instance, Musk said by mid-next year to the latest end of next year, it will be able to create a full length movie, just from a text prompt.
And do it all at once!

So, in other words, it will say, create a movie, and you just explain the Godfather.

It will do the casting. It will do the writing. It will do the filming, if you will. It will -- score the music, and it will happen that fast.

Almost in realtime. We are nowhere near the computational power now, to do that separately.

But this will do it all at once. It will make a movie with all of it, simultaneously.

So the arc AGI system is the benchmark on how close we are to AGI. Remember, scary things happen at AGI.

Terrifying things happen at ASI. ASI could be a matter of hours, or days after we hit AGI.

Grok 4 scored 16.2 percent on the ARC-AGI scale.

Why is that important? You're like, well, only 16 percent away.

Because last time, it barely broke 8 percent.

And that -- they took that test, last time with Grok three.

And it took us forever to get to 8 percent.

Now, what is it? A year later.

We're at 16 percent. Remember, these things are not linear. The next time, we could be at 32, we might be at 64.

We are on the verge. This is the last year of -- I can't believe I'm saying this. Of normalcy. Okay?

This year is -- we're going to look back at this year, probably two years ago, gosh, remember the good old days, when everything was normal.

And you could understand everything.

This is how close we are!

Everything you and I talked about last night, Stu, about what we're doing in January, make -- put -- does it make it even more critical that that happens like, oh, I don't know.

Right now.

STU: Yeah. For sure.

GLENN: You are going to need to know your values, your ethics, your rights.

You are going to need to know absolutely everything.

Now, Grok 4 is not true AGI yet.

It lacks the full autonomy and the generalized reasoning of a human mind. But it is the closest that we've come.

It's a system that can adapt, innovate, at a level that outpaces specialized AIs by a wide margin.

This is a milestone. This is not a destination, but it's something that should jolt everybody awake. So here's what's coming over the next six months. By December 2025, that's this Christmas!

December 2025, he believes, Musk, that Grok 4, will drive breakthroughs in material sciences.

So, in other words, imagine a new -- brand-new alloy, that is lighter than aluminum. Stronger than steel.

And it revolutionizes aerospace and everything else, or a drug that halts Alzheimer's progression, tailored to a person's DNA.

Grok will drive breakthroughs through material science. So brand-new materials that nobody has ever thought of.

Pharmaceuticals that we never thought could be made.

And chemical engineering, putting together chemicals that no man has ever thought.

That's going for happen by December.

Imagine a chemical compound that makes carbon capture, economically viable. The climate change stuff, that's over.

It will be over.

Because this will solve that! These are not fantasies.

This is Grok 4.

Musk said something that he never thought. He believes that within the next year, by 2027, Grok 4 will uncover new physical laws.

So that will rewrite the understanding -- our understanding of the entire universe.

That there will come -- like there's gravity. Hey, you know what, there's another law here that you never thought of. Wait. What?

That, he says, will come by 2027. This is going to accelerate human discovery, at an unprecedented scale.

I told you, at some point. I said, by 2030. It might be a little earlier than that.

Things will be happening at such a fast rate, you won't be able to keep up with them.

And it will accelerate to the point to where you won't even understand what all of this means.

Or what the ramifications are!

Are you there yet?

In six months, Grok 4 could evolve into a system, that dwarfs human expertise in economics, defense, all of it.

Now, again, it's a bit terrifying to quote Elon Musk. Why?

Because we don't know, what else comes with this.

This is like an alien life form.

We have no idea, what to predict. What it will be capable of.

How it will view us, when we are ants, to its intellect.

Okay?

It is a tool, but it is also Pandora's box.

If Grok 4 is the biggest step towards AGI.

And maybe one of the last steps to AGI.

My feeling is: What I've been saying forever.

2027 to 2030, I'm leaning more toward the 2027 now.

Because of this announcement last night.

We are on the verge of AGI.

And everything in human existence changing overnight.

And as Musk said himself, two times, it's terrifying!

We should act like it is terrifying.

Or risk losing the control of the future, that we're all trying to build. That's the biggest story of the day.

I think! In my opinion.

Bill O'Reilly reveals how Trump can END Epstein files nightmare overnight!

Bill O'Reilly joins Glenn Beck with his plan for how the Trump administration can fix the Epstein Files fallout "overnight." Plus, he explains why he believes there's only one way that former FBI Director James Comey and former CIA Director John Brennan get indicted by a grand jury.

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GLENN: All right. Bill O'Reilly.

Welcome to the program, sir! How are you?

BILL: Welcome. (inaudible)

And right off the bat, I have to correct you.

GLENN: Yeah. You're not alive. What know.

BILL: I mean, you know -- you don't know that?

GLENN: Yeah, yeah. No. I -- I thought you were dead. Anyway --

BILL: You were dead to me, oh!
(laughter)
I --

GLENN: I get it.

BILL: That's just another brick in your wall, Beck.
(laughter)

GLENN: It's good to talk to you, Bill.

Tell me -- you had a conversation with -- with President Trump, what, a couple of months ago, and I talked about --

BILL: Yeah. St. Patrick's Day, he invited me to sit on a cabinet meeting, which he does sometimes.

And he said, look, we've got files, Kennedy, King, Epstein -- what do you think? And I said, well, first Kennedy you've got to put out pretty much everything, which he did. King, he didn't. I don't know why. Because that's important too.

And then on Epstein I said, you have to be careful here, because this is now being used in political precincts. Both sides want to destroy anybody that was associated with Epstein. And the problem is that a federal investigation. They don't make a determination whether you had a -- what kind of relationship you had with Epstein. They just said, so-and-so had lunch with him.

Or maybe so-and-so had -- saw him at a party. And I said, any name of a human being associated with Epstein, in any way, that person is going to be destroyed. Because you know, the press is not going to put anything into context.

So I said, but it's very important that the Justice Department tell the folks what they know.

And you don't have to get specific with anything.

But you have to say, this is the information that we've compiled. And that's not hard.

And I don't know why the Trump administration is not doing that.

GLENN: Wow!

So, first of all, it's your fault, that we're not getting any names. We learned a lot here.

BILL: Probably my fault, but the president --

GLENN: You know what, I think you're right. I don't want all the names of the people. I want to know --

BILL: And I don't either.

GLENN: Right! I want to know the Justice Department has sorted through the things, and then have gone through. And said, this is criminal. This is not. These people are being indicted, et cetera, et cetera. But to come out and say, there is nothing there, I mean, it's -- it's at least --

BILL: It's ridiculous.

GLENN: It's mass incompetence, at least from Pam Bondi. How could she come out and say, it's all sitting on my desk?

And then when she doesn't release it, she says, well, that's because the FBI in New York is thwarting this process. There are people up there, that are trying to keep this from me.

And then she makes no arrests on that. We never hear about that again.

And then now all of a sudden, there's nothing to see.

BILL: Well, listen, Pam Bondi does not make decisions on her own.

No cabinet member does.

All the decisions come out of the West Wing.

So what I believed happened was, Trump was so obsessed with the big bill, with Iran, with Putin, with China.

That this -- they didn't even think about this. Okay?

GLENN: I believe that.

BILL: And it slowly began to unravel. And then I caught it by surprise.

But this is the easiest fix. Somewhere so easy.

BILL: So if I'm in charge, and that would be a great thing for everyone, except you, Beck -- but every other American, if I were in charge, tremendous. You would be in Botswana. Right.

GLENN: Right. Oh, I know.

Yeah. Yeah. I would be the ambassador of the white farmers in -- in South Africa if it were up to you. I know. I know.

BILL: No. You would be wandering around going, I am Glenn Beck. And they would go, who? That's what you'd be doing.

GLENN: That's every day.

BILL: So this could happen within the hour. Pam Bondi announces a press conference for tomorrow.

At that press conference, sitting next to her, is Merrick Garland, everyone.

You had this stuff for four years! Now, I understand that Mr. Garland has gone native and is living in a -- well, we can find him. We can pull him out of there, and have him and Pam, sit there and answer questions in a general way about what evidence the Justice Department of the United States has compiled.

GLENN: Not going to happen.

BILL: That's it!

Well, if it's not going to happen, then President Trump is going to take a hit.

But he's calculating that this will say that it's that night important.

But I don't know why you would not do it.

I just don't know. And I'm usually pretty good at predicting what the president does or does not do.

GLENN: So here's the thing, Bill.

I think he keeps focusing on Epstein. It's not that big of a deal.

It's not about Epstein. It's about justice.

It's about, can we trust the people -- correct!

It's all about credibility and justice.

And he's not seeing that. And I don't know how he's missing that. Because I agree with you.

He's been so busy on so many other things.

BILL: That's right. That's right.

GLENN: This is not at the top of his priority list.

But he did campaign on it.

BILL: Right.

And I don't know if there's anybody inside the White House.

He looks to be annoyed, when this subject comes up.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

BILL: And here's the -- what works -- you have to understand.

A guy like Donald Trump runs it all.

If he's annoyed, nobody will want to annoy him more. Okay?

GLENN: Oh, I know.

BILL: That's how it works. The older arch is, because Epstein got favorable treatment.

By the feds, in the first go around in Florida, that there's a deep suspicion about this case.

But if you break it down, if the Biden administration had any dirt on any Republican associated with Epstein. It would have been out.

And vice-versa.

If the Republicans had any dirt on any Democrats. Now, we know that former president Clinton, was involved with Epstein to some extent.

I don't know if that was a factor, okay? I don't know.

But your right for once. You're right. It's about credibility. It's about the American people trusting that we do have equal justice for all!

So what do you -- what do you make of now the Russia gate thing, coming out, today. Or yesterday.

The FISA court.

The fact that they're now saying, hey.

You know, we need to hold Brennan accountable.

We're like five or six days away.

Weeks away from him, you know, slipping past the -- the statute of limitations.

I mean, all these things are out today.

There's that. There is also the -- let's see here.

The Secret Service -- I think this happened a year ago.

But it's being reported as if it's news.

Secret Service suspends six agents assigned to protect Trump during a Butler assassination attempt. I mean, all these things are coming out. Like, look, we're busy on all these things. And I do believe they're busy on these things.

But it's like the Keystone Cops are in charge of the PR on this. It's bad.

BILL: Well, there's a lot of politics involved in both of those cases. Number one, in order to get Comey and Brennan to get indicted by a grand jury. Federal grand jury, and that's the only passage, you would have to have a whistle-blower, saying, yeah, these guys abused their power. I worked for them. And they absolutely wanted to get Trump.

And they knew the Russia dossier was phony.

And they did it anyway.

If I have that Justice Department.

Then you can get those guys.

If you don't have it, they will not be even indicted by a grand jury.

GLENN: So how is it that we do not have that Justice Department?

How do we not have that Justice Department?

BILL: Well, look. I don't know whether they have a whistle-blower or not, okay?

And if they have a whistle-blower, I want the case to go forward.

I want those two men indicted.

You can't do that, at that level.

As far as the Secret Service is concerned, monumental screw up. Everybody knows it. They fired the morons in charge of it. That woman -- I was embarrassed listening to her, trying to explain.

They didn't know what the deuce was going on. But this was across-the-board, in the Biden administration.

You know, it was a year ago Sunday, this upcoming Sunday.

GLENN: Right.

BILL: And it's just another example of how the Biden administration was the second worst administration in the history of this country. People have no idea how bad it was.

Every single agency was chaotic. Nothing worked. And this is just part of that. And we'll have a slew of stuff on Sunday. Nothing really meaningful.

I mean, they suspended the Secret Service agents, as they should have. They fired the director as they should have. The guy was a nut.

I don't know if there was anything more to that. I doubt it.

I'm more interested in the guy in the bushes. Because they don't know anything about him. I would like to know a little bit about him.

But again, the federal government, it doesn't really matter. It's the government. They never want to tell us stuff, Beck, never.

We always have to pull it out of them. It's almost like Russia or something. Come on!

GLENN: Right. Yeah. Let me ask you, let me take you back again to the Epstein thing.

I noticed yesterday, there were these people who were on the left. Who were taking tweets of mine. That say, look. These things don't make sense. On the Epstein thing. And they just have to be answered. And not anti-Trump at all.

And yet, the anti-Trump people were retweeting that, and they're trying to -- they're trying to get the right to fight against itself again and split people away from Donald Trump, where I don't think this Epstein thing is -- is splitting people from Donald Trump, at least at this point.

And I -- you know, I -- my wife stopped me from answering some of those tweets, yesterday.

Because it's never good, when you -- when I tweet in anger. Which I did.

But -- or was going to. What did you think about how this is being used against the right to try to separate us even more?

BILL: Everything is political. Everybody knows that for you.

But the MAGA people, from the mail I get. And I get a voluminous amount of mail. They're not happy.

GLENN: Oh, I agree. I'm not happy.

BILL: Now, are they going to throw President Trump under the cliché-ridden bus? No. Because to them, the greater good is being served by a fair tax bill.

Trying to cut waste.

Dealing with Iran effectively. And hopefully dealing with Putin.

That's another thing, that's on Trump's plate.

He has to deal with Putin now.

Has to. And that will be the next big story.

GLENN: How is he going to deal with it?

BILL: Lavrov and Rubio, are in Indonesia, as we speak.

And I assume that Rubio is delivering a message. That you either stop, or we're going to just absolutely crush you economically. Which the United States can do. By saying. No bank does business with Moscow.

And if you do business, no matter what bank you are, we're going to put you out of business.

Okay?

GLENN: Yeah. I've only got a couple of seconds. But didn't we already do that under Biden?

BILL: No! We didn't do the banks. We did the sanctions. And the sanctions they can always get around, because China is going to buy as much oil from Russia as possible.

You stop the banks, from doing all business with Moscow? Who is going --

GLENN: Isn't that what the SWIFT thing was all about?

When we kicked them off of SWIFT, wasn't that what that was all about?

BILL: No! Because they can still do a huge business with countries buying their oil.

And they got to pay Putin and Russia for the oil, and that has to go through the banking system.

If you stop the banking system, he can't get paid.

GLENN: Hmm, it's amazing. I'm glad I'm not the president right now. I think he's made some very brave decisions, and he is walking a tightrope. I mean, the world is on edge. And I pray for --

BILL: He looks very tired to me. Very tired. I haven't talked to him in a while, which is unusual. But you're right. You're absolutely right. That's the second time you've been right in this conversation. My God!

GLENN: I know. It's crazy.

BILL: What in the world.

GLENN: I was wrong about you being dead.

BILL: What is happening?

GLENN: It's good -- it's good to talk to you, my friend. Is everything okay? Is everything going well?

BILL: Everything is all right, Beck. We are not only successful, but that's old news. We've been that way for 50 years, but I appreciate you having me on your fine program.

GLENN: Okay. I love you.

BILL: Stu is still breathing.

GLENN: Hmm.

BILL: So that's good. Right.

But I've got a big book called Confronting Evil. Of course, we sent it, and of course you denied getting it. That comes out September 9th, so put me on a dance card.

GLENN: Well, we'll have you on. And you can also find Bill and his YouTube page. YouTube.com/BillOReilly. Or is it The Walking Dead?
(laughter)
He's not even laughing. Maybe he hung up. Bill O'Reilly, great to have him on.

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