RADIOFebruary 21, 2025

Did Microsoft Open “A NEW WORLD” With This Quantum Chip?

Microsoft just made what is possibly the biggest announcement in Glenn’s lifetime. The company’s new 8-qubit Majorana 1 quantum computing chip could usher in an era of rapid change like mankind has never seen. Glenn explains what makes this technology so game-changing, what a “topological conductor” is, and what the world might look like in just a few years if these chips are deployed in computers or given to AI. But just as impressive is the other thing the CEO of Microsoft announced: the creation of a new state of matter …

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GLENN: So yesterday, they announced at Microsoft, right after we left the air. I got a note. From somebody that works at Microsoft, that says, we just announced this two minutes ago. You should see it.

It was pretty amazing. It was a video that they released. It was about 20 minutes. Let me tell you what the CEO of Microsoft tweeted, shortly thereafter.

A couple flexes on the quantum computing breakthrough we just announced. Listen to this sentence. Most of us grew up learning there are three main types of matter: Solid, liquid, and gas. Today, that has all changed. After nearly a 20-year pursuit, we've created an entirely new state of matter, unlocked by a new class of materials. Topoconductors. Topological conductors are -- if I can explain topological, and please, I'm way out of my depth on this.

If you really want to know, I'm trying to break it down in layman's terms, as I understand it. Topological is a state, if -- if you had a friendship bracelet, you know that a friendship bracelet can create any kind of shape. You can tie it in a figure eight. You can make it into a loop. It can bend upon itself. But none of the threads, the individual threads that make up that friendship bracelet, become confused with the other threads.

Okay?

It doesn't break. It retains its basic shape. But you can make it into anything. Got it?

Topological shapes, you have to think differently. A coffee cup, a Styrofoam cup and a doughnut are the same topological shape.

Meaning, they're generally round. And they have a hole in the center. Now, the coffee cup doesn't have a hole at the bottom, like the doughnut does. But it's the basic shape, okay?

And you can -- what a topological conductor is, is it can -- it can morph and move, but it could be a coffee cup or a doughnut. And it retains all of its same properties, even though you and I would go, that's not the same shape. Got it? Sorry for anybody who really understands this, that's the -- that's the height of my understanding in 12 hours of topological states.

Now, what they've done is they have found this fundamental leap in computing. They have built a -- a chip, that they have now made into a topological conductor by using an element, a molecule, that we didn't even know really existed up until a year ago. It was speculated that this molecule existed. I think back in the '20s or '30s. And that's what the chip is named after. The guy who has said, I think there's this molecule out there. We've never been able to find it. A year ago, after 19 years of Microsoft pouring money into this research, they finally found it, a year ago.

In that year's time, they've not only found that they could find it, but they could take it and they could control it. In a topological state. Or conductor.

It -- if you just think of that friendship bracelet, but this new molecule is like jelly running through the whole friendship bracelet. The jelly is that new molecule.

That molecule now is -- is being used like a cubit. A cubit is a way to process a quantum computer. It takes us from linear computing. One plus one equals zero. Wrong. One plus one equals one. Wrong. One plus one equals two. Correct. Instead, at the same time that it took me just to say one plus one equals zero, wrong! All one plus one questions are asked and answered at exactly the same time, and only one comes back right.

Okay. So it answers one plus one to infinity, equals infinity, plus one! Wrong.

It answers all of that in the same amount of time. So you don't have a linear thinking, device anymore. It takes your computing power, from what they announced yesterday. Now, they don't have this yet.

But what they announced is they can take this molecule. Like if you think of it finding this molecule and taking really teeny tweezers. And picked it up. And putting it on to this chip, one at a time.

They can put millions of these molecules on to this chip.

Millions of molecules will be way past the computation powers of the world's best supercomputer.

If the cloud all of the servers, all hooked together, were in a warehouse the size of Planet Earth. Okay? That's what they announced yesterday. And, again, they're only at eight cubits. But they say, if this works, they say, they could be at millions of cubits in a pretty short period of time. Everything changed yesterday. Everything changed yesterday.

STU: So, again, last hour, you were talking about this new development from Microsoft.

The new -- well, they say a new form of matter.

GLENN: Yes. They say that we know -- we grew up in a time that there are only three states.

STU: Solid, liquid, gas.

GLENN: Yeah, now that's want true right now. As of yesterday.

I mean, getting your arms around just the -- this is amazing. This is just the beginning. If you were -- if you read or heard about the Microsoft announcement yesterday.

This is what life is going to be like, multiple times a day, in the next three years.

You will not be able to wrap your mind around what the hell was just invented.

What does that even mean? That's the way your life will be, really, getting faster and faster, the closer we get to 2030.

STU: I feel like I can see the future. Because I can't wrap my mind around what's happening today.

GLENN: Today. Right. It's still though -- in some ways. You can wrap your mind around all the corruption and everything, that Biden was doing. There was some understanding of corruption and their goals don't meet our goals, et cetera, et cetera.

STU: Sure. Well, that I can handle.

GLENN: That you can handle.

STU: I'm talking about what you discussed last hour. Not to put too fine a point on it.

When they say, up until yesterday, we had solid, liquid, gas, and now we have this new kind of matter. They're not saying, they created this new kind of matter. They said, they have discovered it. And have harnessed it. They say, it was there the whole time. But it was something beyond the time of human beings, until basically this week.

GLENN: We couldn't find it. We couldn't control it. We didn't even know it actually existed. And we certainly didn't know how to control it.

In a year, okay. And they've been looking for it for 19 years. Microsoft. Longest running research program they've ever run. They found it a year ago, they know how to control it. And now, how to make it into a chip, something you could hold in your hand, that has a million cubits of quantum computing.

STU: Now, that if we know means nothing to me. Millions of cubits of quantum computing.

GLENN: Means all of the -- your phone. If they could put it in a phone, I'm not saying they can or will. If they could put that one chip in your phone, it would make your phone as powerful as the best supercomputer, with a server farm, the size of the planet earth.

Okay?

In your phone!

Okay?

That that's what that means. Now, it's not going to go into a phone, I'm sure.

And I don't think we will all have access to it.

I can't imagine we all have access to it. Because it is going to -- it is going to -- you will be able to put into a quantum computer.

I'm sorry. This is like, you know, talking to a monkey. Listening to me right now, on this. Is like talking to a monkey. But you will be able to say, look, I need airplanes, to be absolutely the most fuel-efficient.

I don't care what the fuel is.

You can invent new fuel too. I need it to be a quarter of the weight of an airplane.

Carry more passengers.

And I want it to travel at 9,000 miles an hour. And it has to be efficient. Give me the materials. And tell me how to make that plane. Boom, ten minutes later. You have the design of not just the plane. But the materials and the fuel!

This chip alone, could give you -- and it's so much more than this. But it will -- you will be able to say, I want a battery, that only needs to be charged once. And then it will never lose its charge.

Ten minutes later, it tells you exactly, no testing, exactly how to build that. Battery.

And what molecules and what the chemical formula and makeup is, in ways that we have never, ever even considered.

And most importantly, as I said last hour, it is -- it is a game-changer. You know how Donald Trump has changed the game of the presidency now. I don't know if the presidency will ever be the same, because of what he's doing, right now.

And the speed that he is moving.

When he said, I'm going to get this done. I'm going to get this done. You know, in 100 days. We all knew that he meant that, but we were looking --

STU: Everyone says it though.

GLENN: Right. Everyone says it.

So we didn't understand how that was even going to look.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: That's what this is, on steroids.

He just changed the game!

This is going to change the game.

Invested saying, hey. How do we cure cancer?

It -- it will say, why cure cancer? I'll just redesign the human, so it never gets cancer!

Okay?

That's the kind of game-changing scenarios that we're looking at, in the next five years.

So there's a lot.

STU: A lot on the table there.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: And so you were discussing that. And discussing how, you know, AI is going to move at -- you know, 50 years of human advancement can happen in ten minutes.

GLENN: No. It's understanding 50 years. Its growth of knowledge and experience.

Right now, is five to ten years, every 12 hours. It will be 50 to 100 years, every 12 hours, soon.

Now, think of that. In knowledge, in wisdom, if you will.

GLENN: And correct me if I'm wrong here, Glenn, but there's like, when we have a new advancement, there's an idea from people who are resistant to it.

Hey, like, we need to -- you've said this before. We need to top. And we need to ask questions about this.

We need to have a conversation about this. Time is up!

GLENN: Time is up.

STU: Even like phones.

We need to rethink this.

I don't think there's any hope that society stops going down this road.

GLENN: No. You can't.

STU: There's going to be too many things that you like from it.

We're already seeing it from people who are -- whose job is to write marketing copy.

They can all say they're not using ChatGPT, but they all are. Because they know, they can get what they used to take in half an hour, done in ten seconds.

GLENN: You can't -- I believe it -- there's -- there's -- there's another step beyond this one. At this point, you should be using ethic ally AI to -- and control it yourself, not rely on it.

But use it to enhance what you can do, on to speed up the process of what you can do. Okay?

It is speeding up the process for me, on research, right now.

I did not understand topological states yesterday. I had no idea. It would have taken me forever to research that. AI can take -- Grok can take a Google search, that might take you six hours to do on Google. And do it in half a second! Okay. So you understand it.

And when you get it, and understand it. Instead of going to another place and trying to read it. You can say, I don't understand this. Can you break this down for me?

Can you give me real life examples? Can you give me an analogy for this. And it will. And it will dumb it down to a point where you say, okay. I get it. So you need to do that.

But at the same time, you must start answering real questions.

And -- and get into the hard discipline, of what is real, and what is not.

What is good, and what is not!

What is human, and what is not. What is life? And what is not.

What is your purpose? You -- the loss of those ideas, that we've never answered. This is how impossible this task is, gang. But we have to do it.

Questions that man has never answered or never been able to answer. What's the meaning of life?

You cannot just coast on that anymore.

You have to do the best you can. Why am I here?

What is the purpose of my life? You have to ask and answer those questions now!

Because as this continues to grow, your purpose -- your understanding of those deeper questions, are going to be hijacked or dismissed. And you will just begin to merge with whatever AI is.

And you'll just start living and feasting off of AI.

You have to separate yourself and be strong and use it as a tool, instead of it being God, instead of it ruining your life.

STU: Or your girlfriend. Or best friend. Yeah.

GLENN: Whatever. You can't just -- you have to know who you are!

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: This is -- this is -- I'm struggling. And this is one of the main things now, I'm really working hard to be able to explain to you, it's all up to us, as individuals. You're never going to stop this.

But right now, we're in a place to where, you should be using it, and knowing what you're using, and helping -- and letting it help you, discover things, et cetera, et cetera. But not relying on it. Okay?

STU: Right.

GLENN: And not allowing it to merge into your idea as I'm relying on it.

It's my friend. It's anything like that. And never, ever let it cross the boundaries in your mind, of what it is!

We have to answer these existential questions, right now.

Because the next phase is: Merge!

And if you haven't done the hard work between now and then, which could happen in the next five years, could happen -- listen to me. Could happen before we have a new president, sitting in the Oval Office. Where we are talking about actual merging with machines!

Once you get there, if you're dicey at all on what this is, you will merge! I mean, I'm not saying this is, by any stretch. But it could be! This is mark of the beast kind of stuff. This is once you take that merging point, it's not going away. You will always be that.

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Should Trump BOMB Iran or stay out COMPLETELY?

There's a big debate right now among the political Right over whether the United States should intervene in Israel's war with Iran. Should President Trump bomb Iran? Should he encourage regime change? Or should he completely stay out of it? Glenn Beck and The Federalist CEO and Co-founder Sean Davis discuss.

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GLENN: Sean, welcome to the program.

VOICE: Thank you for having me, sir.

GLENN: You bet. I'm glad to have you on.

You know, I'm not sure -- I'm not sure of anybody's position, because the smart people, like I think you are, are asking questions. And not coming out with these bold declarations. They're just asking questions.

And sometimes, their own response, at least mine is.

It's very nuanced. And I'm not recommending anything.

I'm asking questions, and I'm warning about the mistakes of the past.

I don't trust anybody.

But I also think a nuclear armed Iran is really bad. But I want Israel to take care of it.

I want to be involved in that.

It's their direct right now. Let them take care of it.

What -- where do you go from here. What questions should we be asking ourselves, Sean.

SEAN: Yeah. I love your approach to it. Because it doesn't start with a conclusion.

It's kind of trying to build with what we should be doing from the bottom-up.

Which becomes a discussion of first principles. And I think that's really important.

I think we probably all agree, that we don't want bad people. And we don't our enemies, to have weapons, they use to destroy us.

I think probably everyone agrees in that.

GLENN: Yes.

Well, can I add a caveat to that?

Not just our enemies, but especially those who are batcrap crazy.

Or believe in the return of the Mahdi, and I can hasten his return by washing the world in blood. That kind of -- that puts you in a special category for me.

But, anyway, go ahead.

SEAN: And, again, I think I might even extend it. I'm not sure I want our friends and allies to have it. In a perfect world, we would be the only country, with these massive weapons.
(laughter)

GLENN: Okay. All right. I'll go for that. Okay.

SEAN: So the problem we have is that for, let's call 80 years. You know, 75.

The nuclear toothpaste has been out of the tube.

Soviet -- India, Pakistan. North Korea.

France. Israel.

In South Africa for a time, they all had nukes. And to me, the big problem that I have a really difficult time wrapping my head around, is how do you solve the problem we created with Gadhafi in Libya?

GLENN: Yes.

SEAN: That country gave up their weapons program, voluntarily after Iraq. Kind of before Iraq become another debacle and another cautionary tale. And they gave up their weapons in the US and NATO and our allies. We returned the favor, thanks to Hillary and Obama, by overthrowing Gadhafi and killing it.

I think what that communicated to every leader on earth, good or bad, if you don't ever want to be overthrown, you have to have nuclear weapons.

And so I start with understanding that fact, what is the best, most effective way to make our enemies -- make sure our enemies don't get nuclear weapons?

And I'll tell you, I don't have a good answer. Because we've heard for 40 years, that Iran is on the verge of a nuke.

They're about to have a nuke. They're about to have a weapon. So let's assume we go through with these attacks, and we bomb now or Israel bombs it.

What that doesn't get rid of is the incentive. It temporarily gets rid of a mechanism for I guess enriching uranium. But in four years or five years, how do we deal with that? I don't think regime change is a good idea. We've seen how well that works. It turns into an unmitigated disaster.

And so I think we just have to start with the question, what is the best possible way to incentivize people that we don't like, and don't like us, to not have weapons. And I genuinely don't have a good answer to it.

GLENN: You know what, I keep thinking. Every day I do this job. And I think what Reagan said when I was a kid.

He said, there's going to come a time.

And he was talking to Social Security at the time, but I apply it now to everything. There's going to come a time, where we've made so many mistakes. There won't be a good solution to everything. Every choice will be a bad choice.

And I think we're here. I think we're here. Everything we do, you're like, I don't know. I don't know.

I don't want to do to the mistakes of the past. But I don't know how to stop this now.

You know, regime change. Let me just take that one.

Regime change. It doesn't work. I loved your post. I think it was yesterday.

Yes, our military industrial complex lied about Vietnam. Killed Kennedy. Ran a coup against Nixon, then killed another Kennedy.

Tried to get MLK Jr. to kill himself. Ran drugs through the Americas to fund shenanigans in the Middle East.

Funded Bin Laden in the Taliban. Missed 9/11, and lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Got an ambassador murdered in Benghazi.

Then turned Libya into a slave market run by terrorists. Then created ISIS. Ran the Russia collusion hoax.

Tried to overthrow Trump with the Ukrainian hoax. Weaponized a bat virus that killed millions of people and lied about it. And used the virus they made to steal an election.

Then arrest Trump, tried to bankrupt him.

Try to make him die in prison, and then when they failed, they denied him adequate security, leading him to be shot in the head.

Yeah, they did all of those things.

The drug cartels, Iraq, Bosnia, in the 1990s.

Iraq and Afghanistan in the 2000s. Still Iraq and Afghanistan in 2010.

Plus, Libya, the whole moronic Arab Spring thing. Ukraine in the 2020s.

These were all disasters that cost millions of dollars and countless lives. You're right on every single one of those things.

Every single one of those things.

So how do we make a decision now'

SEAN: Right. And that's why I think it's important to get to first principles. Which is understanding our limitations.

Understanding history. Understanding how other nations view things. One thing that's driven me nuts in the foreign policy debates that we've had in the country, for 20, 30 years.

Is that there seems to be zero desire to put ourself in the position of our adversaries and our opponents. Saying, how are we looking at things?

Some people, if you try to do that, they'll say, oh, well, you're sympathizing with them. Or you're appeasing. Well, no. This is the basic stuff for negotiation.

You're playing chess against someone. You want to understand what they're going to do next.

So you can respond to it.

And we just never do that.

And I look at this. I think there's probably two major options. For either forestalling or preventing a particular regime for getting weapons.

The first one is regime change.

In the short-term, you can tell yourself, we will overthrow these people.

And then they won't want nukes anymore. Because we will put our friends in, and then it will be food.

Well, that's been ongoing in Iran for 100 years. The Brits and the Soviets were the ones who came in and put the original Shah in. It's been a mess over there.

So personally, I throw regime change out the window. Because it opens up pandora's box of just insanity, as we've seen in the Middle East.

GLENN: Okay. Hang on a second. Hang on a second.

Wait. Wait, on that.

Is there a chance that -- you know, I never saw it.

I kept saying. We headed to war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Show me the person that will have their face on the stamp. Show me the person that will have their face on the money.

I never had somebody stand up and say, we need to be free.

And we need to fight for our own freedom. You do have those people that are really tired of this, and much more Western.

I don't want to get involved in a regime change. And I certainly don't want you to say, hey. We're going to help you pick a leader.

Is there a chance this time is different? Or is that wishful, stupid thinking?

JASON: You know, I think it's probably wishful thinking, but I don't know.

I tell you, I have a hard enough time figuring out what's going on politically in my own country. Think about all the time we spent pouring over polls in our election. Talking to our neighbors.

This is a country we were born in.

We understand its culture without even thinking about it. We're fluent in the language. We can talk to anyone we want, whenever we want. And we have a tough time, figuring out what is going on here. I don't have a clue what's happening in Iran.

I don't speak any of the three or four languages over there.

I don't understand the culture. I've never been there.

I've not been able to talk to people over there.

I don't know thousand read the news there.

The idea that I, or really any other Westerner can look at Iran and with any confidence say what the people want or don't want, I think it's crazy.

And so I think you kind of have to be humble about your ignorance. And we are largely ignorant of just about everything happening within Iraq, and its culture and its people.

GLENN: I -- I have to say, I think you're right on that.

Okay. So that's out.

What's the next thing?

SEAN: We kind of set aside regime change, probably not a great idea.

Another option is maybe economic incentives. Yeah, we know you don't want to be overthrown.

That's going to be a hard incentive to overcome. So you're going want to regime change insurance. Maybe we can bribe you out of it. All kinds of economic assurances. This and that.

The problem with Iran is they're sitting on oil, which is probably the most precious resource on earth. I don't think that works.

And so I think what we're left with is probably the Whack-a-Mole that's been going on for years. And I think the nation that's probably best sighted to deal with that Whack-A-Mole. They're the ones at risk.

Iran can't reach us here in the US. They don't have the ballistic missile capability. They're not a direct military threat to us.

They're clearly a military threat to our friends and allies in the Middle East.

And so I think the least worst option is probably Israel doing what it does, every five to ten years, and going and trying to degrade their ability to mechanically make the stuff.

Wait to see what happens, do it again over and over. But to me, that's a regional issue.

And, yes, there are allies. And, yes, they're our friends.

But it's far more consequential to them, than it is to us. And so I have no problem with them, doing what they need to do, to address the threats to them.

GLENN: So I'm with you, 100 percent so far.

Now, I'm very -- you know, we're the only ones with the bunker buster that can get into that.

What does that go down, 12 stories?

20 stories, underground.

Can destroy anything with a 20-story footprint, underground.

We're the only ones that have it. It has to be dropped from one of our planes.

And I'm very uncomfortable with that. Very uncomfortable. I mean, you know what, you want to buy the bunker buster? I'll sell it to you. But you got to drop it.

Once we put that on our plane, and we drop it, aren't we then part of the war?

SEAN: Right. And that -- like I said, that might be the least worse option to the extent that we have to be involved.

GLENN: Yes.

SEAN: When it comes to foreign policy. I think a lot about what Mike Tyson says.

That everybody has a plan until you get punched in the face. Once you go and drop a bomb on someone, once you engage in offensive military capabilities. Now, you may rhetorically say, well, it's preemptively defensive. It's an offensive move, whenever you bomb another country.

You are creating the conditions for all kinds of chaos. Who knows how they're going to respond?

Maybe they're rational. They understand, look, we will have to take this one on the chin.

We don't want to fight with the US.

We don't want to fight with Israel. We will have to deal with it.

And maybe they decide. Hey, we were in the middle of negotiations. We thought we were trying to get somewhere.

And if they're going to do this stuff with us, then to heck with this.

We will just unleash hell. That can happen.

Now, I don't know if it will. It's probably less likely to end up taking it.

But it's a possibility. Whenever you go and punch somebody in the face, you now have to deal with the consequences of how they will respond.

GLENN: All right. Back with more in just a second. Can you stay with me for just a few more minutes, Sean?

SEAN: Of course.

GLENN: Before we go to back to Sean, Jason, I had to look up in the break, preemptive strikes.

Is that something new?

Because I know that's -- my age, maybe.

I remember, I don't remember people saying, we have to preemptively strike, more than when it -- when the nukes started coming. And that's when everybody was like, you have to do it before you get one.

Is this a new thing? Or has this been going on forever?

JASON: I want to start out with saying, I'm so glad for Sean in having this conversation.

Because it is sorely needed right now.
It's so bad.

There's a weird irony with preemptive or preventive strikes.

Because the first modern preventive strike, looking at the Cold War era was the start of the six-day war.

When Egypt blockaded Israel, amassed 100,000 troops in Israel.

GLENN: Wow.

JASON: Did the first modern preemptive strike. If they would not have, they would not be here right now.

It's another coal in the fire really.

What is the red line --

GLENN: Sean, what is the red line?

Is there a red line?

SEAN: For us. Or for Israel?

GLENN: You know, any society. Is there a red line?

I think the answer for Israel is a lot sooner than ours.

But is there such a thing as a red line, to go first, and preemptively strike?

I'm sure there is. I'm sure there is.

It's so situational, that I would have a hard time saying right now, this is a red line, that satisfies all conditions for all nations.

GLENN: How about just for Israel?

Red line?

SEAN: For Israel, I would think it would be a delivery mechanism and the actual developed warhead. That's probably what I would look at. Can this immunization at this moment, deliver a nuclear warhead to us right now?

That's what I would say is the red line.

But, you know what, I have not had a country trying to wipe me off the earth for, you know, the last 80 years, 75 years.

GLENN: 5,000.

SEAN: Right.

But hard for me, just given my position, to know exactly what their -- I would say, it's probably close to the same thing.

An ability to attack the US people. Now, you'll hear from the Pentagon and people saying, well, they can hurt our troops in the region.

My view is, well, that's probably a good reason to not be meddling in the regions all the time. Because --

GLENN: Hmm. Hmm.

Sean, thank you so much. What a great conversation.

I really appreciate it. Thank you for being reasonable, rational. And allowing people to disagree.

And learn from our disagreements. Thank you, Sean. Appreciate it.

JASON: You're very gracious. Thank you, sir.

GLENN: You bet. The CEO of the Federalist.

Sean Davis.

Will Trump HIT Iran with a “bunker buster” bomb?

Will President Trump get America involved in Israel’s war with Iran by helping drop a “bunker buster” bomb on Iran’s main nuclear facility? Would that cross a red line? Glenn Beck asks House Foreign Affairs Committee member, Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, who explains why she believes such debates are pointless right now. Plus, Rep. Luna addresses a 1980s CIA "playbook" that exposes a strategy to "set off riots and destabilize governments."

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GLENN: Representative Anna Paulina Luna is joining us now.

Congresswoman from the great state of Florida. You guys are kicking it, down in Florida.

I mean, you really -- you're making Texas look bad, quite honestly. But thanks for coming on.

ANNA: Thanks, Glenn. I would like to say, we're leading the nation not just in politics, but also the White House. So happy to be here.

GLENN: Yeah. All right. I have to ask you a little bit, about are we going to war? What's happening? Is this negotiation? What does your gut tell you on this?

ANNA: My gut is telling me, that we're not intervening. And based on the president's statement, he is still rightfully so, urging everyone to negotiate. Right now, he's definitely been very open about this.

But I don't want to -- what I will tell you, in the last 24 to 48 hours, I have seen so much disinformation circulating on the internet. Well, a lot of it not coming from security that is in the states, so I will tell everyone. That don't jump to conclusions, don't read into anything, that senator Lindsey Graham is saying or any other members of Congress, that are speculating, that there will be direct intervention. In fact, the White House just yesterday via Alex Sipher on X posted that the military is not intervening. We're simply defending our own. And so what I will tell Americans is first and foremost, President Trump has not changed his position on foreign policies. If he wanted to strike, he would have done it by now. So everyone needs to pray for him. Pray for our country. Pray for the millions in both Iran and Israel right now, and let the process play out.

GLENN: Can you tell me, do you think it's a red line to send over a bomber with one bomb?

Is that -- does that drag us into war?

Or is that just helping?

ANNA: I would say, as of right now, we need to not speculate, but continue to back the White House's position.

Because I think if I were to speculate on where the red line is, I don't think it helps.

I do think that our allies and adversaries are looking to see the members of Congress are doing. I will back the White House's position currently. Which is defending our service members and not intervening --

GLENN: It is. I'm so glad to hear you say that. That is exactly what I just said on the air. Just about three minutes ago.

ANNA: Oh, really?

GLENN: I said, yeah. The world is watching. You don't think the mullahs aren't watching everything that is said on X. You know, we must used to have these conversations where it was global. We're now in a global atmosphere.

And they're watching all of us.

And we can't eat ourselves up. Or they will -- if he's telling the truth.

I think a good negotiator, never bluffs. And he has to back it up.

You know, 60 days. You don't want to see what happens on day 61.

He wasn't bluffing.

And if they think, that we are eating ourselves, alive, they're more likely to go, no.

You know what, go ahead. Go ahead.

It's a really bad thing.

ANNA: What I will say, it's definitely a litmus test for our country right now. You're seeing a lot of people, jumping to conclusions. What I will tell you, there's only a very select few that fully understand what's happening in the situation room.

That's the president, his team, and it's left up there to you. What I will tell you, don't read in, don't speculate. And also too don't jump to conclusions.

Again, in the last 48 hours, I went online. I put out information, because I saw so much information circulating. Something that was said by Kash Patel. His CCP has engaged in basically election engineering. We just saw that in the 2020 election cycle.

They just got busted. This also comes on the tail end of these riots that are absolutely being hunted by the CCP. Neville Singham getting lots of money from them.

And it doesn't stop there.

We saw there was an -- so what I would say is that, you know, I'm partially inclined to think some of these accounts that are attacking the president, are foreign policy positions right now.

Are coming from China. Everything that we're seeing. Three times, that they've done things.

So we have to stick together. It's not, Democrat versus Republican right now. It's America, and fighting for Western civilization.

And so we need to make sure that we're very responsible about our commentary right now.

GLENN: Very good. Very good.

Can we talk a little bit about the -- let's start with Neville Singham.

The guy is -- he is an operative for the CCP. And he is pouring tons of money. And no one in the mainstream media, wants to talk about it.

They just -- oh, that's ridiculous. No, it's not.

Can you give us some information on --

ANNA: Yeah. Of course. So it's not ridiculous. In fact, there's a lot of money -- money at least back to Neville Singham. And I actually look at credit where it's due. So I was on X. And came across this account called Data Republican, and she actually pulled the money trail right to Singham. He also lives part time in Shanghai, China, and he's not registered as a foreign agent.

And so I was able to talk to Comer, and every single member of oversight after seeing the evidence that was presented, actually sent a letter, signed off on it, not just to Neville Singham, but also, to AG Bondi to also request an investigation.

And so what I will tell you is that this should have been done during BLM in Congress back then.

It was not. This needs to be replicated moving forward with everybody else who is engaging, who is not a registered foreign agent in this country.

Also, funding riots like this. In some instances have been acts of terrorism.

And so right now, it's not just a playbook for Neville Singham. We're also -- this is also up to Comer. Because Comer has subpoena authority. Whether or not he will send his subpoena to George Soros, which I've urged him to do.

Even though, Neville Singham is a Marxist and Soros is a globalist, but their end objective is, again, to dismantle the United States.

And so we're basically being hit from both sides right now.

GLENN: I am so -- it is so refreshing.

I mean, I've been talking about this stuff for 20 years.

It's so refreshing. Finally, to have some people step up, and present this in a credible way, in Congress.

And to the -- attorney general et cetera, et cetera.

You know, you had the playbook from 1983. From the CIA.

And this is -- you know, I think it was two or three years ago.

No. It was in 2019 or 2020.

I did a special on the -- you know, the Colour Revolutions.

And how there was the CIA playbook that was out.

And it looks exactly like what is happening here in the United States. I said -- I said, at the time, here's what's coming. And it's all here.

It -- where are you taking this?

And is there anybody, that, you know, can -- can stop this?

Because this -- we are -- we're using CIA tactics on ourself.

ANNA: Well, I would say, the CCP is using this against us.

Right now, just first and foremost.

Yes. We can stop it.

We have to go after the money stream. And I actually also found out via the data Republican.

That $270 million in the USAID fund, was issued to George Soros' NGOs prior to Biden getting out of office.

President Trump can stop that, sending a letter via executive order because Congress is moving very slow.

That's I think a separate conversation.

But we can stop the money streams. And if we don't do anything, though. If we don't do the investigations.

If we don't say, you cannot do this in our country, you're also, by the way, guilty of violating foreign agent registration, the Foreign Registration app, the FAR app. It's just going to continue happening.

So we have to do the due diligence on this.

And if not, every single member of oversight signed off on that.

And to Chairman Comer's credit, he will be playing ball with Singham. So it's going to happen.
It's just, When will it happen?

So the time line, it's possibly indicated on Friday. We're waiting for a response.

He's going to be called to testify.

We are looking at all transaction records.
That's the first thing. The second thing, I want to give some people hope. I actually know Director Radcliffe over at the CIA.

And the CIA back then, remember, there's both good and bad people at the intelligence agencies.

And to their credit, the people that he has appointed, actually are a people like you and I.

And so they are doing their best to weed out this corruption at the agencies. And so what's really been brilliant in all of this.

Kash Patel is also following up on these money trails, to see what outside foreign influences are engaging in this Colour Revolution here in the United States, and he's dropping that information now. So in previous administrations, this might not have happened.

But in this one, they're stopping it, and it's because of social media and kudos to Elon Musk, that we were able to get the information in time, in regards to the No Kings protest, who is funding that.
In regards to potential insider packets that were going to frame conservatives. Frame Republicans.

We are seeing this all unfold in real time. I will tell you, Hispanic Americans, specifically, are not used as pawns. So when you have basically BLM 2.0 happening right now at these ICE riots, and you realize that these are actually largely ANTIFA that are going to be questioned. They're why they're not Hispanic. They're not immigrant.

They have no ties to the communities, and they're simply interning, you know, Mexican flags or BLM flags. That doesn't bode well in the community.

Remember, Hispanic Americans are largely voted for in favor for President trump.

So there is hope. But you can't sit on your hands. You have to get active, you have to get engaged, and you have to be telling people that.

GLENN: You know, for years, I've been angry at the billionaires on the right. That have just not stepped up to the plate.

I really, I suspected with the tides foundation and then with Biden and you all of these green new deals, and everything going on. That money was being funneled off the top.

And then as soon as we appointed DOGE. I said, oh, my gosh. The money is coming from us.

Then he started to find him. That is so critically important. Are we going to stop that funding?

ANNA: Well, yes. And so that's what we've been doing with some of these rescission packages at the White House, that has authorized. We have to move quickly. And we have to be more aggressive with it.

I will tell you, remember, I think just in general, sometimes people can be lazy.

And so what I've been telling people, is you have no idea, the level of personal sacrifice, that Elon really took on.

From taking on DOGE. Especially going after USAID. Which is just like a pot of just corrupt nonsense.

He actually just released, as we were about to call in. He released drug testing results. He had himself drug testing. Because they were saying, he was doing all this crazy stuff.

And he wasn't. Right? They've attacked companies. They literally used his personal family matters in the press. And then they tried to drag a wedge between him and the president.

So what I will tell you is, it's not just him. It's any member of Congress of the Senate. You saw what happened with the president. They tried to assassinate him twice.

Okay?

So if you take this on, the American people need to back these people up.

Because it's not like we're taking it on, because we, you know, want to have our personal lives and our family members put on the line here.

It's because it's the right thing to do. And if we don't do it, who will?

You have to really make sure, everyone sitting together. Remember, look out for the disinformation campaign.

And keep supporting people who do the right went.

Because we need more of them.

GLENN: Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna.

Congresswoman, thank you.

JEFFY: Thanks Glenn.

GLENN: You bet. We'll talk again.