RADIONovember 11, 2024

5 GAME CHANGING moves Trump could make in his second presidential term

Glenn and Stu discuss what they’re most excited to see in a second Trump term. Will Trump have BOTH the House and Senate so he doesn’t have to rely on executive orders? Will Elon Musk be able to clean out the bureaucracy? Can Trump lower the income tax or abolish the 16th Amendment altogether? Will his tariff plan work? Will he be able to reduce the government’s spending? Will we finally see term limits for members of Congress?

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GLENN: So, Stu, are you -- are you almost giddy at what is possibly coming?

STU: Yeah!

I think I'm really -- I'm excited. I was trying to think of what I'm most excited about. Because there's a good chance the Republicans get the House.

And, by the way, this is going to be close.

GLENN: Don't toy with my feelings here, Stu.

STU: Yeah. I was interested. Because there's so -- I think this is the right thing to feel.

But there's very little panic over the house. I think the Republicans will get it. But if you think about like, the shenanigans that have better than been worried about over the years.

GLENN: I don't know if it was shenanigans.

STU: Yeah. I was going to go a different direction.

The shenanigans that we have been worried about over the years. It would be a heck of a lot easier to steal this election. Than anything else that you could possibly imagine.

We will be completely dependent on California districts that take two weeks to count. That is legitimately what the House comes down to.

The fact that we're not freaked out about that. Is good.

Maybe that means, at the end of the day, whatever problems we have had before, have been solved.

At the end of the day, we are looking at a very close, 220, maybe 221, if we're lucky, in the House.

It will be in that general vicinity. Markets say, it's a 93 percent chance that Republicans will get the House. Not 100.

So that's still out there.

But if you are able to get that. I was thinking, what does that mean?

You will have 53 senators, at least. McCormick, by the way, even though some places haven't called that race. McCormick will get that race in Pennsylvania.

You still have two possibilities. Kari Lake in Arizona and Sam Brown in Nevada, that are possible.

I would say probably less than 50 percent on those. But 53 isn't 50 or 51. So you've got a little bit of a cushion there.

The more cushion you have --

GLENN: You just have enough for Murkowski and Collins.

STU: Right. And Collins. You at least you have that going for you, which is nice.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: And the more cushion you have, the better bill you can get out of let's say reconciliation, to keep it nerdy as possible.

You will get one bill, basically, that is going to give you, that will pass with 50 votes.

This is how Donald Trump passed the tax break package. He passed back in his first term. And we may very well get a good tax break package.

It may be really good, you know, maybe he gets even more aggressive. Because, remember, that was sort of an off-the-shelf government proposal, largely, that they passed in 2017. So maybe we'll get something even better.

But honestly, I was thinking about. That's not what I'm most excited about. I think what I might be most excited about is the prospect of Elon Musk coming in and identifying places to come.

GLENN: Oh. Me too.

STU: Like, there's something about that. Because that is really his -- all of his brilliance.

We all know the guy is a genius.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: But of all his brilliance, that is what you take most away from what he was able to bring to all of the companies.

Sometimes, it's even presented as soulless and heartless. Right?

He just comes in, and he has no care. We don't need --

GLENN: Hang on just a second. It's a company.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: I mean, it's not a charity. It's a company.

STU: Agreed.

GLENN: And look at how many people this heartless bastard cut from Twitter.

Well, it's doing better than it ever has. You know, you might have your complaints here or there. But I believe X saved the republic.

I wonder if it wasn't for Elon Musk, buying Twitter. If we would have won.

STU: I think that's very true.

I think remember, when you say it's doing better than it ever has done. You can definitely look at financial measures that do not agree with that comment. However, that's not what his goal was.

What was his goal? His goal was to allow people to speak freely?

And it was an expensive genre, into that world.

I mean, you know, but it was worth it, I think. And it was something -- he was protecting the First Amendment. And I didn't mean to say it in a negative way. When I said heartless and soulless, that was how it was portrayed by many.

GLENN: That's how it was spun many times.

STU: Yeah. And there are plenty stories of him being tough on employees. Maybe too tough on certain employees.

But that attitude, 100 percent is necessary in the federal government.

Whatever he thought was waste, at Tesla, or SpaceX, or Twitter, is nothing compared to the burden we all carry with incompetent employees and complete waste. And nonsensical programs, that accomplish nothing.

We all carry that burden.

And if Donald Trump empowers him, and he wants to take this on, as they talked about in the campaign. I feel like, it's one of those things we could actually see a real difference made.

Not just a little, hey, we should get 4 percent off of this rate, which I will cheer on.

I will be happy with tax rates going down.

But like, that's something I think that could really change the country in a positive direction.

GLENN: So I want you to bring your best hat, your best thinking cap on Monday.

Because I scheduled a -- an economist, who said, the way that Donald Trump is thinking about -- thinking about tariffs, would mean an 18 thousand dollar raise for everybody.

And could actually work to pay our -- to pay our -- you know, our bills every month. And now, I don't know.

I haven't heard the full argument. But I just want to hear it. Because if we can cut back our spending, so it's fairly reasonable.

And we're still, you know, providing a safety net and everything else.

I am very interested in rebuilding our industries. Rebuilding our factories. And -- and actually motivating people, to go to work.

And -- and learn a real skill, and start making things here in America. And having pride in that.

STU: Yeah, for sure.

GLENN: And I think, for the first time, I think if I can -- if I can get somebody to tell me all of the metrics and the numbers. Because I -- you know, the numbers have to. They have to work out.

But that to me, is thrilling.

Even if you went to a 5 percent income tax. I would rather abolish it.

But if you did something track. You imagine the money that would open up. That could be invested in job creation.

New businesses. Can you imagine what would happen in a country, where we didn't have income tax?

STU: I -- look, the -- there is a three-pronged approach, right?

That he's talked about. One is raising tariffs. One is -- as you mentioned, getting rid of the income tax.

And a third would be cutting the government down level to levels. You know, roughly, you of course adjust for inflation, and you adjust for population growth and all these things.

But roughly to the 1800s. As he talked about 1880s.

GLENN: Or 1920s. Calvin Coolidge did this.

STU: Calvin Coolidge did this as well. He was more friendly to tariffs.

Even though, it's not my favorite policy. But he's one of my favorite presidents.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: But, you know, those three things are, if you could do all three of those together. It adjusts the country in a way that is so dramatic.

It would probably be do a lot of really positive things.

GLENN: Yeah. Like 5 percent growth.

Like 5 percent growth a year.

That's -- that puts us into the -- when China was doing well kind of growth.

STU: And I think we can get locked into the sort of fantasy league here.

GLENN: I like to.

I've been doomsday for a long time.

STU: Hey. This is the right time to do it. He just won. What can we do here?

The issue with these policies together is one of them is really easy to do, which is raise tariffs. Donald Trump can do that just on his own.
The other two are nearly impossible.

I mean, get over -- and I'm not -- I have literally sold mugs at StuDoesMerch.com. That's a repeal the 16th Amendment. So 100 percent, this should be our goal.

But you're right. Like there might be a modified version of this that makes sense. If you can control spending, if you can cut some, and you can lower the income tax, a great deal, and replace some of that income with tariffs.

I don't think that that would be the type of situation, that would be horrible.

I don't -- I mean, we do forget at times, we are the second largest manufacturing country in the world.

We do make a lot of things here.

GLENN: I know. I do.

STU: And a lot of times, those measures I think are a little bit out of whack. That being said, I'm happy to trade.

I'll trade getting rid of the income tax for a lot.

There's a lot of stuff I'm willing to deal with on the policy front, if we could get a win like that. And why not go for it?

Why not?

GLENN: I know.

I mean, he's the guy who could do it.

Donald Trump is the guy who could do it.

He could get that constitutional amendment passed on the -- the term limits, on Congress. I think he could get that passed.

If he backed it, he could get it passed.

If he wanted to repeal the 16th amendment, with another constitutional amendment, and he really laid it out.

Here's what this would mean for you. I -- think the numbers are so staggering, that who wouldn't be for that?

STU: Well, certainly. Constitutional amendments are difficult.

Because you need the other side involved in them.

That makes them -- I mean, there are other approaches.

But you know how hard it is. It's hard. We've done it 27 times, in a couple hundred years. And most of them are at the beginning.

It's really hard to do. And it should be hard to do, by the way. That's a change that I would absolutely love.

Term limits are one. Term limits, I would say, are arguably more interesting, from a pragmatic doable circumstance.

This is a really popular policy.

People can't stand the fact that Nancy Pelosi just won her 20th term in Congress.

20 terms in Congress. People don't like that. They don't like it on Republicans or Democrats. You're talking about 80 percent approval numbers for a proposal like that. And I think Trump also looks at it and says, you know what, good chance, you know what, if I ran again, I would win.

I'm limited. Why aren't you? I think he looks at that as a general idea of fairness, why is the president limited for -- to two terms, when they are -- when senators get to go for two -- multiple six-year terms. Congressmen can go forever, with two-year terms.

Why not make it so there are limits across-the-board?

GLENN: Wouldn't it be amazing if the last time they put term limits on was through Congress. Because they saw how out of control FDR was.

And it was the Democrats that led that, and thought, we can't. We can't have that. We can't that have.

And now, to come back after Congress has done nothing. And our government is -- is out of control. Like it was at the beginning of FDR, and through Woodrow Wilson.

To have now the president come back and say, all right. Let's finish that job.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: The progressives always take people's breath away. They always go too far. And they hit a point to where you're like, oh, my gosh.

That is like, oh, what are we doing here? And they've done it again.

STU: You notice that, when you see people with bulging in their swimming suits winning gold medals.

GLENN: Yeah. For the women's.

STU: For the women's swimming events. Yeah, no. I mean, I think that's true.

You can get something like term limits.

I think there's very, very limited opposition to Donald Trump, for what he makes a priority from the Republicans. So when you're talking about laws, you're not going to get much pushback from Republicans on this stuff. I think, you know, when you get into constitutional amendments, it becomes much more difficult.

But it's all a matter of what Donald Trump prioritizes. If you remember 2016 and 2017, he also ran on a proposal to -- to do term limits.

He just never made it a huge priority.

He would mention it in speeches. This time, I think he's serious about it. In his first -- that speech we played earlier. The first ten things he wants to do.

GLENN: If you haven't heard it. Oh, it's so great.

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Why Trump is RIGHT to take back DC

President Trump is cracking down on crime in Washington, DC, and Glenn Beck believes it’s a “brilliant” move. Glenn explains why Trump is taking action, whether it’s legal, and what he believes it says to the world.

Transcript

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GLENN: So the president yesterday, taking control of our Capitol back. And he said this, cut three. Listen.

DONALD: My father always used to tell me. I had a wonderful father. Very smart. And he used to say: Son, when you walk into a restaurant and you see a dirty front door, don't go in. Because if the front door is dirty, the kitchen is dirty also. Same thing with the Capitol. If our Capitol is dirty, our whole country is dirty, and they don't respect us.

GLENN: It's absolutely true.

This is the broken windows theory. You know what that is? The broken windows theory is something that Rudy Giuliani used to turn the country around. And that theory is, no one, no one, picks up a rock or can or bottle or anything, that's in a nice neighborhood that's clean and everything else.

You don't pick up a rock and break a window. However, if you're in a neighborhood where there is a lot of broken windows and everything is broken down, the average person is much more likely to pick up a rock and throw it through a window.

Why? Because the entire neighborhood says, we don't care.

So what Rudy Giuliani did, was he used this theory, and he cleaned up the -- he cleaned up the subways by doing a couple of things.

First thing he did, was he made sure, that if you were jumping the turnstile, for the -- for the subway, you were stopped right there.

Before, people just weren't paying a fair, they were just jumping a turnstile.

And nobody was doing anything about it.

He says, no one was crossing that turnstile. Now, what is it?

Is it a dollar to ride the subway? No one rides it for free. And so he put police, right there.

And they stopped you, and arrested you, if you were jumping the turnstile.

The second thing is, was he stopped the graffiti. He said, I don't care if they have to be repainted every single day.

When those things pull into the station, at night. If we get there in the morning, and they've been spray-painted, I want them all painted again, and then they go out.

Everything had been covered in graffiti.

And when he changed those two things, all of a sudden, the attitude, of the subway, it became safe again.

Because it was sending a signal to the bad guys and to the good guys, we care. We're not going to let this happen, anymore.

So what he's saying here, about dirty doorstep, means a dirty kitchen. It's absolutely true.

You ever gone into a restaurant. Gone into their bathroom. And you're like, oh, boy.

Oh, God.

I can't eat now.

Because if the -- the bathroom for the customer is like that. What is their kitchen like, where the customer never sees it. That's what he's doing, and he has the absolute right to do it. He's got 30 days, before he has to bring Congress into it.

This is the -- back in 1973, Congress passed this Home Rule Act. And they didn't have a mayor. They didn't have a city council. They didn't have any of these things.

This has been from the beginning of our country, the Founders wanted the District of Columbia, to be a district that is a federal district, run by the federal government. Not by local rile.

And in 1973, they started that. And it was all just to get them to be declared a state. First a city with a mayor. Then we should have power to elect the president of the United States.

Yada. Yada. Yada.

This has not been worked. This has been an experiment that has not worked at all. So he can deploy the National Guard for law enforcement, because there is no governor of DC. He can use it for emergencies, crowd control, and to execute federal laws. However, he just declared an emergency.

Now, under the Home Rule Act, he can assume control of the Metro PD, which he didn't, for up to 48 hours, during special conditions of emergency.
And that time period can be extended.

But he -- what he's doing here, is he's using these 30 days, hoping that the home rules act is going to be revealed. Only Congress can reveal that. But there's movement to reveal it now. And if Congress appeals the home rule act.

Then this nonsense in the District of Columbia is over. And if anyone tells you, you know what, the crime status are going down.

To what?

To what?

Even if they went down to 2019 standards, is that good enough?

I mean, it is still more dangerous than walking around in Bogota, Colombia.

It is twice as dangerous as walking around in Islamabad!

I don't know. I don't think that's really a good thing.

And, by the way, they changed the way -- you're a stat person. Did you read this about the stats.

PAT: Playing with them.

GLENN: Oh, my God. Playing with them.

Felony assault is not considered a violent crime now in their crime stats. Not assault. Felony assault. Felony means usually prison is -- is tied to that.

STU: Yeah. Not just some easy misdemeanor, where you get your hand slapped.

GLENN: Felony assault.

STU: Yeah. If you're not going to include that, it's hard to even take that seriously.

But your point is more crucial to this, than even the statistical games.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Because they keep -- they keep bragging they're getting it back to 2019 levels, or maybe a tick below. That's not good.

GLENN: No. It's not.

STU: What you're saying is acceptable is not acceptable.

That's the message from the White House.

I would love to see it.

And we're seeing it so far. I would love to see the Democrats try to win that battle those rules.

If what you're trying to tell me, because we were there for the inauguration.

GLENN: Police everywhere.

STU: Of course that was -- police everywhere -- it's a totally different --

GLENN: But I had a guy threaten my life, and not for political reasons. Just because I think he was batcrap crazy.

STU: Yeah. Yeah. Right. I mean, a lot of sane people threatened your life on a regular basis. Crazy.

GLENN: This is a nutjob.

STU: Yeah. But, like, unless you're at the mall, during the day, it's -- and even there, can get sketchy at times.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

STU: You feel it.

GLENN: You feel it. You feel it.

STU: You want to stay inside your hotel room.

GLENN: And, you know what, everybody knows this. Washington Post. There -- this is a story on how safe the city is.

This is a safe city, but overhearing witness game threats and then watching the camera footage of the thuggery is disturbing, said one resident.

Speaking on the condition of anonymity, over --

STU: Anonymity, over concerns of personal safety.

GLENN: Yes. Anonymity, over concerns of personal safety. So I don't want my name in the paper, because I'm afraid of the thugs finding out who I am, and killing me. But it's perfectly safe. Oh, my gosh!

STU: Everyone knows this! Anyone who has ever been to DC. You know it, by walking around.
Weird crap happens to you. People approach you, in threatening ways.

GLENN: You know, Rikki told me just a few minutes ago, our executive producer. She said, last time I was in DC. And she lived in DC for many, many years. She said, I was in my old neighborhood.
She said, I used to walk at 2 o'clock in the morning.
I never had a problem with that. She said, I went to this restaurant. And I was there with a friend.

And I had gone there a million times.

She says, it's in the middle of the day. Within just a few minutes, she's sitting on a patio outside, some huge guy, she said, 300 pounds, at least 6 feet, comes up and says, I'm going to kill you. And starts threatening her and her life.

They call the cops. It takes them 15 minutes. She's not far from the Capitol. Fifteen minutes to get there. And then they don't do anything about it.

He -- she's like, anybody who says, this isn't happening, has just never been there. Here's an ABC anchor. Now, remember, their whole spin is, this was fascism.

There's no -- it's a safe city. Listen to this ABC anchor. Listen to this. Cut one.

We've been talking so much about the numbers, and usually that's how you play devil's advocate. You talk about, oh, well, stats say crime is down.

However, I can tell you firsthand here in downtown DC, where we were, right here around our bureau, just in the past six months, you know, there were two people shot. One person died. Literally two blocks down here from the bureau.

It was within the last two years, that I actually was jumped, walking just two blocks down from here. And then just this morning, one of my coworkers said her car was stolen, a block away from the bureau. So we can talk about the numbers, going down. But crime is happening every single day, because we're all experiencing it firsthand while working and listing down here.

GLENN: Hmm. Hmm.

STU: You know.

GLENN: Go ahead.

STU: I was just going to say, I was on vacation last week. You know, it's like saying I'm cutting my calories from vacation levels to normal levels.

It's still not healthy. Right?

It's just -- even if there is an improvement from 2023, which some numbers do show, although the numbers are questionable.

2023 was just absolute catastrophe. And this is just terrible. Right?

Like, that -- there's no reason to embrace this norm.

As the norm.

GLENN: So let me give you -- I want to show you the response. The response on the left.

Here is -- show the full screen here of the free DC.

This came out yesterday.

Free DC. Like it's under some fascistic.

Look at this deal. And what it says is it is encouraging residents to protest Trump's federalizing of the city's police force. And what it wants to do is starting tonight at 8:00 p.m. And then every night, go out to stop this occupation.

Go out and bring pots and pans. And bang on them. And then when you're -- your neighbors go, what the hell is wrong with you!

Say, don't you care about the fascistic government.

STU: People will love that.

GLENN: This is crazy. This is crazy.

Now, if Donald Trump and I think with Jeanine Pirro.

I think some things are going to be happening quickly there.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: He actually has a chance. And I don't think he's doing it this way, for this reason.

But he actually has a chance of turning DC Republican.

Because you're living in that. Imagine --

STU: It's hard to imagine.

GLENN: It's hard to imagine. But imagine living there. And now you're seeing your side, that you've always voted for. Say, it's not so bad. And you know it's bad.

You can't have your wife go out to the grocery store at night.

You've had your carjacked. Maybe crazy people on the streets.

And then he's doing something. And if it works, if it works, people will be like, you know what, I'm sorry.

But that is a better solution.

He is -- this is very brilliant of him. He's very good at this.

He knows where people live.

You know, spiritually. And physically. He knows right where they live.

And where they're living in Washington it can't. Is a hellhole.

And everybody there knows it. And if he can actually change their lives, he changes everything.

Are these MAJOR PROBLEMS with our airlines widespread?

What is going on at our airports?! Glenn Beck has noticed an increase in flight issues – delays, technical problems, understaffing. So, he speaks with aviation expert Mike Boyd, who explains where he believes these issues are coming from. Are they widespread? Or is it just one airline? And can the FAA fix these issues under President Trump?

Transcript

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GLENN: Mike Boyd. Welcome to the program, Mike, how are you?

MIKE: I'm doing fine. It's an honor to be here.

GLENN: Thank you. So thank you for coming on. I've been asking for an interview with Secretary Duffy, and we haven't been able to align the schedules yet.

But I am very concerned about our airlines. I was on a plane. These were all American Airlines, by the way. I was on the plane. The pilot, we got on. It was like two hours, three hours later late. We got on. And the pilot was standing in the aisle. And he said, everybody, I don't want you to blame the airlines. I want you to blame me.

And we're like, oh, okay.

And he said, because I wouldn't accept the plane, that they wanted to us fly because I have flown it before. And it has problems. And they haven't fixed those problems. And the only way it's going to be fixed is if we reject it. And say, I can't fly.

I don't know if that's true or not. Or what this guy -- you know, what the story was. But that didn't fill me with confidence. I'm like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. So you're actually saying, the airline is not repairing a plane.

And I don't think -- I mean, I don't think our airplanes are in trouble, and going to start falling out of the sky. But that has been happening lately.

What is happening with our airlines?

MIKE: Well, I think the experience you had, that one specific one. We've done a lot from -- I come from an American Airlines background. Nevertheless, we've done a lot of work with American pilots unions. These are very professional people. The fact that guy stood up there and said, I'm not confident with this airplane. That's a safety -- that's a safety plus.

GLENN: Oh, I appreciated that. We thanked him for that. Thank you. Thank you.

MIKE: But we have a major problem with American Airlines. If you have pilots saying, I don't trust you. These are not yo-yos. These are not good consumer men's. These are professionals. If they say that, we have a problem in America. If that happens in America, and I think you might want to call the folks down there in Fort Worth, their brand-new American Way headquarters. They spent billions on them and asked questions.

But overall, I haven't seen that. Are there big problems with air traffic control?

Yes. No question about that. And we finally have somebody that the FAA and the DOT, who has a clue. And that will be addressed.

But overall, if it's just one airline, you're on the right track, as far as looking at it.

GLENN: Okay.

So this is -- but are you seeing this kind of stuff happening with other airlines.

MIKE: No. No.

GLENN: I'm flying out of Dallas all the time. So I generally fly American. And I occasionally will fly Delta. But, you know, it's mainly American. So I just assume this is happening on other airlines as well.

Because I'm reading the comments from people. And they're like, I can't trust that I can get there the next day anymore.

And that's a real problem.

MIKE: Well, because air travel is. I have to get there times certain.

This is not a game. I have to get to the bar mitzvah, whatever I'm going.

So if they can't get there, I'm not going to go. And the reason I'm not going to go, is you can't get me there. Now, if you look at reliability.
And again, we've had some issues, like Frontier Airlines, if you want to see Saturday Night Lights, go to YouTube. You'll see a gated -- a gated net, Frontier Airlines. It's really bad. But if you look at others, like our friends at United Airlines -- and I don't work for those guys. They have a system where if you book at United, very often, they're with you the whole damn trip.

If you don't like a lot of text messages, don't book them. They're with you, the whole time. And their CEO is functionally age, about making sure, whatever went on. Whatever it is. Take it or leave it.

From that point, I think you may have stumbled over something that affects the metroplex, more than anything else.

GLENN: So how's -- because I've been on the plane. And everybody is like, we're going to have missing.

You know, you will miss your connections.

And everybody is like -- is this kind of -- is the airline system set up almost like the Just In Time supply line? That if it did ever go into catastrophic failure, it would be a real problem.

Because, I mean, it's just one plane arrives, just in time for everyone to unload and reload and take off again.

MIKE: Well, yeah. That's just the issue. In ancient times, our friends at Southwest could come in and go in ten minutes.

Today, you can't get ten seats emptied in that amount of time. So they're really trying to cut down the amount of time, on the ground. That makes sense.

The question is, they have to have systems they can't be allow them to do that.

Now, delta has put in a very comprehensive system that only works for Delta, where they have been able to coordinate all those things, and do a better job of it.

But you're right. If you're coming in and going out, and that airplane has to do a go-around, coming into Atlanta. That could be 15 minutes.

That 15 minutes could mean, you can't get across the terminal to get your connection. That's going to happen.

GLENN: Tell me about the situation.

Because, Stu, you did a documentary on how bad the air traffic control system was. Right?

STU: Yes, I did.

GLENN: And is that on YouTube still? What was the name of it?

STU: It is. Countdown to the next Aviation Disaster. Unfortunately the countdown was not as long as you would have hoped it would have been.

GLENN: Yeah, it is. I mean, what's going on in our air traffic control.

And I would never want to be an air traffic controller. The stress these guys are under.

And that's not -- I'm not even calculating the stress on how close these planes are flying in and out now.

I mean, I'm just thinking, back in the good old days, where it was very stressful.

Now they're still passing paper to each other. And these planes are one on top of the other one.

When are we going to change this system and update it?

MIKE: Duffy is doing that. Duffy is not -- and finally, we have an FAA administrator who has a clue. Brian Bedford. He's been around. No, I've known him for 40 years. This man knows the business, and he's all business.

And, you know -- and, you know, I know he's good because Chuck Schumer doesn't like him. So that underlines everything right there.

GLENN: Good.

MIKE: So that's starting right now. Look, we testified to Congress in 1994 on this. On a free flight system, that you could make it far more efficient. The FAA blew it off. The FAA has always been a repository of some really great people at the operational level.

But at the top, these are just political appointees. Take a look at the FAA administrator that the -- the last president wanted. Phil Washington. Nice guy. Clueless. But he was a good appointee.

We can't do that anymore. I think we're going to see some major changes right now.

GLENN: Now, can -- how long is it going to take us to fix this?

MIKE: Well, you know, one of the things.

It's sort of -- what Duffy said, well, we have a -- there was a program in place to fix it over the next five years. And that's ridiculous.

So he's on it. I mean, he just went up to Wisconsin. He found the oldest, I think the oldest control tower in the nation. We're going to fix this. He's really making a point of trying to get it done.

And I think he's doing it incrementally. Where like Newark. What a disaster. I don't mean this city, necessarily. I do.
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But at the airport, you know.

He's trying to make that work better.

This guy is on it. So I'm thinking 18 months.

It's going to be incremental. But we will start to see this happen.

GLENN: In Newark, or in the country?

MIKE: In the country. Because we can't have a free flight system that is far more efficient --

GLENN: What does it mean, a free flight system?

MIKE: There's a free flight system -- they want to ignore this, where every airplane takes off, and it finds its own ways. Keep in mind, the skies aren't crowded.

You can put 250,000, count them, 737s in a cubit mile of airspace, parked, not moving.

But that's a quarter million of them. And any time in America, today, in the sky, you might have just 14,000 -- 14,000 airplanes in the sky.

GLENN: Wow.

MIKE: But that's like 11 million cubic miles of airspace. So we can use our airspace better.

But what we've had is quite frankly, an FAA that hasn't wanted to think about it. It's more worried about itself. I am convinced that is going to change over the next two years.

GLENN: And are we close to having AI do all of this free flight stuff?

I mean, I would imagine that you don't -- I mean, you don't need to check in with tower, if AI is assisting finding it.

MIKE: Oh, exactly. We've got to use that. And a lot of it -- it's -- the head of the FAA has always been the clown of the Titanic. He says, slow down.

And by the time, it gets back to the engine room, you know, we've hit the iceberg. I think it's one of those things that we have to recognize, a lot of stuff has to change organizationally at the FAA, and at the department of transportation. I think finally we have people that can actually address that.

GLENN: Wow!

That is -- I mean, this is wildly optimistic, but I am happy to hear that. I like Secretary Duffy.

I don't know much about him.

Not enough to say enough like you're talking. That makes me feel really good. I'm very concerned about our air travel.

It's not good. Not good.

Not going in the right direction.

MIKE: It's not going in the right direction.

I find out, if I treat the customer right, they might come back and fly me, and what's happening now, people are getting away from some of these really low fair airlines, where the seat is like, a bucket seat in a C-119.

They don't want to fly those things anymore. And people like United and Delta and other carriers are saying, we'll take your business.

And they are.

GLENN: I have to tell you, at times, I'll be on a plane. And I think we're like one scruffy dog with one blue eye, just walking down the aisle, creepily away from third world airlines. I mean, it's like, there are times I'm like, is there a chicken going to run down the aisle too? What country do we live in?

It's beyond. It really is the greyhound of the sky now.

MIKE: It is. There's no question. My mother was a stewardess in the 1930s. Everybody dressed up.

GLENN: Yes.

MIKE: Today, you're lucky if everybody is dressed.
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GLENN: I don't know why we haven't had you on before, Mike. You're very funny.

Mike, thank you so much. For an inside look on this. I appreciate it. Mike Boyd, aviation expert. From the Boyd group international. He's the president and CEO.

MIKE: Me pleasure. Thank you.

GLENN: He's the guy who consults all these airlines and tries to help fix them.

And is also, you know, testifying in front of Congress all the time.