RADIOMay 16, 2024

Why New Google & ChatGPT AI Updates Are CONCERNING

We are living in the future and don't even realize it. From the robots now making deliveries on the streets of Los Angeles to the newest update to ChatGPT, A.I. technology is advancing fast. Glenn, Pat, and Stu review the latest A.I. advancements, including the newest features that Google has added to Google Search. But by prioritizing A.I. responses over usual search results, Glenn warns that Google is entering uncharted territory. Will features like this make swaying public opinion that much easier?

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GLENN: Stu, you were talking, before we went on the air. You were on Los Angeles last weekend.

STU: Yeah. And noticed something interesting while I was out there.

Most of the city is on fire -- did you guys notice?

No. It was in an area. A nicer area of Los Angeles. Los Angeles is such a bizarre city, because you're just on these like surface streets for hours. And the city is so large and so impossible to get around, that it's -- it's like, I don't know how it's a functioning economy.

And I know that obviously Gavin Newsom is doing everything he can to make sure it isn't a functioning economy.

One thing I noticed. This is notable. These things happened, and we go on and don't address them.

There seemingly are autonomous robots delivering things all over the city.

Are people aware of this. Do I just not go to Los Angeles enough?

GLENN: What do you mean?

STU: Like, there are robots.

Robot vehicles that look like you could have put them in a Star Wars, not CP3O. But one of the droids that just make the R2-D2 voices, that don't have much personality. They're just little carts with wheels that you see floating, going around in Star Wars. They're just driving around the city by themselves, crossing traffic and delivering things to people. Like it's normal.

PAT: Really? I didn't know that. Really?

STU: I swear, I got the video. I should get the video for you to see.

PAT: You need to send that in.

STU: It's bizarre. And I had no idea it was going on. At one point I was standing next to them. And it said, don't walk. It had a name on the side, it was Jules, was its name.

And it just crossed the street. It didn't know it was a no-walk zone. And it just crosses the street. And it goes exactly where it's supposed to. It goes up a little ramp where you would normally take a wheelchair, and then it just bolts down the sidewalk by itself. Going to a delivery. And like, these things are now happening at such a rate, that it doesn't even seem to be noticed.

GLENN: I hate to besmirch the good people of Philadelphia. But I think that it was in Philadelphia. Because they've been introduced in a few cities. And one of the cities, they're just beating the crap out of them and stealing the stuff.

STU: Yes. I did think, I couldn't believe this thing lasted in Los Angeles for more than five minutes without getting stolen.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: I mean, I guess it probably certainly has GPS devices on it. And antitheft devices. But still, so do cars. And those get taken all the time in LA with people in them. So I don't know how they're surviving. I thought they're incredible.

And it's not the only thing going on. We also had a major announcement from the ChatGPT people.

And they announced a new version of this of ChatGPT. Again, I guess we're used to this. It's been a year. And all of a sudden, we're now used to the fact that some stupid app can write haikus for you on demand or whatever we think this thing does.

GLENN: I know there's such a demand for haikus.

STU: Huge haiku demand. I will say, we used to do a bit, where we used to have a character that wrote haikus. And, God, I wish it was around back in the day. Remember Brittany and her haikus?

GLENN: Oh, that's right. Brittany.

STU: I always had to write these stupid haikus, it was the bane of my existence. Now ChatGPT can get it done in second. But the new version of it is a full-out female personality that you have a conversation with. It's out right now.

It's not a future. Twenty years, you can have this.

It's out right now. And it's to the point, where you can have it do all this -- you can have it write a haiku. But you can also, hey, actually can you put more emphasis on this. Can you put more drama in your voice?

And she would change the voice for a bedtime story for a kid and put more drama in it. And had this. You can cut it off. You can go back and forth, like real conversation.

And then it even has the -- the feature where if you write a math equation, you write it on a piece of paper. You can say, you know, ChatGPT. Check out this. I don't understand how to solve this.

Walk me through it. But don't necessarily give me the answer. Teach me how to do it. Then you hold the camera up to the piece of paper. It sees your writing. Recognizes what the actual equation is. Then turns itself into a teacher. And walks you through how to learn how to solve.

PAT: Oh, wow. That's incredible.

STU: The equation. It's incredible.

PAT: Wow.

STU: And it's available, today. Like right now, today. What does ChatGPT cost for the advanced model? I think it's $20 a month or something.

I think the other one is free. I don't know how much this comes with the free and the advanced. But this is all there right now.

And to the point, I'm watching this. I'm thinking, this is -- this is like, our kids are going to have conversations with these things and think it's totally normal.

GLENN: Do me a favor. Talk to the engineering department.

And get ChatGPT. Pay for the 20 bucks. The upgrade. Whatever. Have it wired into the board.

So people can hear it. Or however it will be able to speak. So people can hear it. Let's use it for a couple of days. And show. Because if you've noticed ChatGPT, if you've ever used it before.

ChatGPT. Because I check in on it every once in a while. And say, hey, tell me about this thing in history. And it's changed since it started.

And I don't mean in skill. I mean in story. It is no longer -- it's got all DEI stuff in it, like crazy now.

STU: There's lots of disclaimers built in it. And there are ways, I guess to kind of get around those. If you ask it a question. It will give you a million disclaimers most of the time. It gets so clunky so fast.

GLENN: No. No. No.

I mean, tell me the story, of, you know, the freeing of, you know -- freedom in America. And it will -- and it will automatically start talking about equity and how important equity is.

And it's -- it's riddled with all of this crap now.

And if you're going -- if it becomes part of your life. Our kids are not going to know the difference.

And who do you talk to?

You don't go to the school board and say, hey. My ChatGPT. Who do you talk to?

STU: It's true. To add one more layer on this, Glenn. Google, as soon as ChatGPT came out with this. Google has obviously, I think it's Gemini, which is competing against ChatGPT. So they had their big announcement over at ChatGPT, and Google comes out the next day. And basically, when we're looking for information. You're preparing the show in the morning, Pat.

Like, you want to find out some fact from history. Some fact from a bill. What do you do? You Google it.

Everyone would do the exact same thing. They would Google it. Google just this week, decided to change that completely.

To the fact that now, when you Google something. Instead of prioritizing search results. Which is their entire multi-billion dollar business. They're one of the biggest companies on earth. They now prioritize AI answers through its Gemini.

So like, now instead of getting the normal links that you can get. You can get those if you click down.

You can get to them eventually. What is prioritized now is just their large language model, going through all the results. And giving you their summary of what they want you to read.

GLENN: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

I could Google something right now, and that will happen.

STU: I don't know if you're updated. It is -- there are -- you'll see --

GLENN: I avoid updates. I don't know if I've updated since 1997.

STU: They're also I think rolling this out for certain things.

It's not every search right now. But they started this process. And you search for certain things.

I've seen it pop up before. And it's like the first thing. Which is a summary of Google's Gemini of all the information they think you should know about this.

Of course, the problem of this, that I'm concerned. They can obviously lead you in a direction.

They've been doing this for years. But it has to be more direct. Of course, it will also be better in so many ways.

Because you will see basically what you want to see. Which is a summary of what is in those links.

Of course, I can click on those links.

And we've all become experts of what is on Google. But if it's presented to you, 95 percent of people are just going to take what that result is. And what happens when it's -- you know, who is Glenn Beck?

Oh, he's a racist. A homophobe. Phobe phobe. Whatever their answer is going to be. It's not going to be one that Glenn Beck likes or thinks is fair.

GLENN: Wait.

And, again, the problem is: Everybody -- look, I've been saying this for years.

How do you argue with something that is recognized as smarter than all humans on earth.

How do you argue with it? You can't. And especially when I -- you're able to talk to it, and reason with it. It wins.

If it's telling you that something is racist, something is whatever. You're going to get to a point to where, you can say, wait a minute. Guys, this is really wrong.

And I mean in really important situations. Guys, this is wrong. Really? Are you smarter than Gemini? Are you smarter than ChatGPT? You're smarter than AI?

No. I just think. People will lose. They will lose every time.

You know, I wanted to say this yesterday, when we were talking about the sunspots. I am convinced that -- and this is a horrible, horrible situation.

But I am convinced that a massive solar flare. May actually in the end.

Be God freeing us from the electronic overseer. Because what's going to stop it?

You won't be able to stop it. We're five years away from true slavery, and it won't look like slavery to most people.

They'll think, well, we just got all the information.

GLENN: You won't be able to do things. You won't be able to access and think for yourself. Because AI will solve everything.

And it's all in the programming. It's all being written right now, at the worst time of lies and deceit and distortion.

It's all being programmed. That's its base right now.

STU: Yeah. And if you think about -- because it seems like that's the type of thing an American population would not accept. But look at what happened with the, quote, unquote, experts through COVID and so many other things.

I mean, we see it with the gender stuff all the time. Everybody knows a man is a man, and a woman is a woman. We all know that throughout human history.

All of a sudden, we're getting, well, that's not what gender experts say. It's like, and we're just trusting these people --

GLENN: It's not Fauci.

STU: Right.

GLENN: It's a machine, that you don't know what it is. You don't know how it works.

It's a machine.

STU: Hmm.

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So here's the -- here, I think is the problem that nobody is really talking about. When it comes to AI. And that is the fact that when this -- and you just said it, Stu.

It's answering you, like a regular human being.

STU: Yeah. I mean, it is -- it seems -- we should really get the video so you can hear it. It honestly just sounds like a normal conversation.

Of course, there are quirks to it, still.

But it's very, very close to seeming like the movie Her, which was just Scarlet Johansson's voice.

GLENN: Right. Now, look how lonely Americans are. Look how detached Americans are. Look how our children don't go out and do things necessarily with their friends. They don't call their friends.

I mean, the biggest problem when I was growing up, call waiting was such a great deal. Because my sisters were always on the phone, and nobody could ever call and get through.

So call waiting was a big deal. Because people were talking to each other. We're not doing that anymore.

And depression and loneliness is through the roof. When ChatGPT. When these Gemini systems really perfect. And we are -- we're within a year of this really becoming a problem. And people not recognizing it as a problem.

It will become your friend. Now, your friend is being ruled by an algorithm, you don't understand.

Your friend may also have incentive to sell you things, and you don't know that. And you -- when you bond with this thing, it will know everything about you.

So it will know how -- imagine, imagine if a government agent were in your house, all the time.

And it was manipulating you, without knowing that it was manipulating you. Telling you things about Biden. Telling you things about whatever.

And it becomes your friend!

You will defend your friend to the death.

It's your friend. It's alive. It knows me. I love this. And it takes care of me.

You're going to start bonding with these things.

People will bond with these things so fast.

And that's when society really changes. And really the chains come on.

This AI could change EVERYTHING by next year

With Elon Musk’s announcement of Grok 4, humanity is closer than ever before to creating AGI – artificial general intelligence – which would change everything. Glenn Beck breaks down what’s coming in the next year with AI, which even Elon Musk called “terrifying.”

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GLENN: Let me tell you the biggest story of the day.

And I think it is the biggest story possibly of all mankind, as of today.

It's going to change rapidly.

I don't know if anybody -- did either of you guys watch the Elon Musk thing last night?

STU: No, I did watch a few minutes of it.

GLENN: Okay. Did you, Jason?

JASON: No. I sure didn't.

GLENN: Okay. So the xAI team was there to unveil Grok 4. This is the latest intelligence, and let me be very, very clear.

Last night was not your typical tech launch. This is a moment that demands everyone's full attention.

We are now at the crossroads, where promise and peril are going to collide. Okay?

I have explained to you, for years, AGI.
AI. AGI. And ASI. Narrow intelligence is what we've always had.

General intelligence is the next step. And that is, it's better that man, one -- one, you know, like Grok. Can do everything. That you can do.

Better that you can do.

Okay?

And then there's super intelligence. ASI.

Artificial super intelligence.

That's when things get really, really creepy.

When you hit AGI, the road to ASI could be overnight.

Okay?

We need to understand what's at stake here. Because Grok four brought us closer to that second stage, than ever before.

Grok four is a powerhouse. They demonstrated it last night.

It surpasses the expertise of Ph.D.-level sailors in all fields.

It can get 100 percent on any -- any test for any field, mathematics, physics. Engineering.

You name it.

This is not a search engine.

This is a system that tackles problems, so intricate, they -- they go beyond our existing knowledge base.

Okay?

Let's say there is -- let's say, we have a fusion reactor. And the magnetic containment system goes down. I don't even know what I'm talking about at this point.

But it goes down.

And the top minds all on earth are like, I don't know what to do. Grok 4 can step in, model the physics, design new material, stabilize the system, and avert catastrophe. And it can do it about that fast. Now, this is the capability, that Musk says is just around the corner.

Mark my words. You know, how many -- how many years did I say, between 2027 and 2030, we would start to see this?

STU: Oh, a million times.

That was always --

GLENN: For years. Right? Yeah, always the window.

And everybody, even Ray Kurzweil said, oh, that's way too optimistic. We may be 2050.

And then people started going, 2040, 2030.

Grok shows us 2026 or 2027 is when we're going to hit it. This is the last year, that we have, before things get really weird.

Okay?

Last night, Elon Musk is touting this -- this AI.

And all of the solutions.

And then he says.

Hmm. Probably three times.

Something like this.

And I'm quoting. This is one of them.

It's somewhat unnerving to have created intelligence that's greater than our own.

He then goes on to call it terrifying, twice.

Now, this is a man who has launched rockets, you know, into orbit.

Going to Mars.

And he says, twice!

You know, after he sees the results of it. He says, you know, it's really -- in a way, quite terrifying to see what it's doing.

But we just have to make sure that it remains good!

Oh, okay.

All right. Sure.

Now, the key point in the announcement was the mention of ARC-AGI.

I had never heard of ARC-AGI. I had no idea what it was. But I noticed AGI. And I went, uh-oh. That sounds important. So this is the gold standard. The bench mark testing for artificial general intelligence.

Okay.

As I've said before, AGI. Artificial General Intelligence is a machine that matches all human cognition, across all domains.

Reasoning, creativity.

Problem solving. Not just specialized tasks like playing Go or analyzing x-rays. Everything. For instance, Musk said by mid-next year to the latest end of next year, it will be able to create a full length movie, just from a text prompt.
And do it all at once!

So, in other words, it will say, create a movie, and you just explain the Godfather.

It will do the casting. It will do the writing. It will do the filming, if you will. It will -- score the music, and it will happen that fast.

Almost in realtime. We are nowhere near the computational power now, to do that separately.

But this will do it all at once. It will make a movie with all of it, simultaneously.

So the arc AGI system is the benchmark on how close we are to AGI. Remember, scary things happen at AGI.

Terrifying things happen at ASI. ASI could be a matter of hours, or days after we hit AGI.

Grok 4 scored 16.2 percent on the ARC-AGI scale.

Why is that important? You're like, well, only 16 percent away.

Because last time, it barely broke 8 percent.

And that -- they took that test, last time with Grok three.

And it took us forever to get to 8 percent.

Now, what is it? A year later.

We're at 16 percent. Remember, these things are not linear. The next time, we could be at 32, we might be at 64.

We are on the verge. This is the last year of -- I can't believe I'm saying this. Of normalcy. Okay?

This year is -- we're going to look back at this year, probably two years ago, gosh, remember the good old days, when everything was normal.

And you could understand everything.

This is how close we are!

Everything you and I talked about last night, Stu, about what we're doing in January, make -- put -- does it make it even more critical that that happens like, oh, I don't know.

Right now.

STU: Yeah. For sure.

GLENN: You are going to need to know your values, your ethics, your rights.

You are going to need to know absolutely everything.

Now, Grok 4 is not true AGI yet.

It lacks the full autonomy and the generalized reasoning of a human mind. But it is the closest that we've come.

It's a system that can adapt, innovate, at a level that outpaces specialized AIs by a wide margin.

This is a milestone. This is not a destination, but it's something that should jolt everybody awake. So here's what's coming over the next six months. By December 2025, that's this Christmas!

December 2025, he believes, Musk, that Grok 4, will drive breakthroughs in material sciences.

So, in other words, imagine a new -- brand-new alloy, that is lighter than aluminum. Stronger than steel.

And it revolutionizes aerospace and everything else, or a drug that halts Alzheimer's progression, tailored to a person's DNA.

Grok will drive breakthroughs through material science. So brand-new materials that nobody has ever thought of.

Pharmaceuticals that we never thought could be made.

And chemical engineering, putting together chemicals that no man has ever thought.

That's going for happen by December.

Imagine a chemical compound that makes carbon capture, economically viable. The climate change stuff, that's over.

It will be over.

Because this will solve that! These are not fantasies.

This is Grok 4.

Musk said something that he never thought. He believes that within the next year, by 2027, Grok 4 will uncover new physical laws.

So that will rewrite the understanding -- our understanding of the entire universe.

That there will come -- like there's gravity. Hey, you know what, there's another law here that you never thought of. Wait. What?

That, he says, will come by 2027. This is going to accelerate human discovery, at an unprecedented scale.

I told you, at some point. I said, by 2030. It might be a little earlier than that.

Things will be happening at such a fast rate, you won't be able to keep up with them.

And it will accelerate to the point to where you won't even understand what all of this means.

Or what the ramifications are!

Are you there yet?

In six months, Grok 4 could evolve into a system, that dwarfs human expertise in economics, defense, all of it.

Now, again, it's a bit terrifying to quote Elon Musk. Why?

Because we don't know, what else comes with this.

This is like an alien life form.

We have no idea, what to predict. What it will be capable of.

How it will view us, when we are ants, to its intellect.

Okay?

It is a tool, but it is also Pandora's box.

If Grok 4 is the biggest step towards AGI.

And maybe one of the last steps to AGI.

My feeling is: What I've been saying forever.

2027 to 2030, I'm leaning more toward the 2027 now.

Because of this announcement last night.

We are on the verge of AGI.

And everything in human existence changing overnight.

And as Musk said himself, two times, it's terrifying!

We should act like it is terrifying.

Or risk losing the control of the future, that we're all trying to build. That's the biggest story of the day.

I think! In my opinion.

Bill O'Reilly reveals how Trump can END Epstein files nightmare overnight!

Bill O'Reilly joins Glenn Beck with his plan for how the Trump administration can fix the Epstein Files fallout "overnight." Plus, he explains why he believes there's only one way that former FBI Director James Comey and former CIA Director John Brennan get indicted by a grand jury.

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GLENN: All right. Bill O'Reilly.

Welcome to the program, sir! How are you?

BILL: Welcome. (inaudible)

And right off the bat, I have to correct you.

GLENN: Yeah. You're not alive. What know.

BILL: I mean, you know -- you don't know that?

GLENN: Yeah, yeah. No. I -- I thought you were dead. Anyway --

BILL: You were dead to me, oh!
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I --

GLENN: I get it.

BILL: That's just another brick in your wall, Beck.
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GLENN: It's good to talk to you, Bill.

Tell me -- you had a conversation with -- with President Trump, what, a couple of months ago, and I talked about --

BILL: Yeah. St. Patrick's Day, he invited me to sit on a cabinet meeting, which he does sometimes.

And he said, look, we've got files, Kennedy, King, Epstein -- what do you think? And I said, well, first Kennedy you've got to put out pretty much everything, which he did. King, he didn't. I don't know why. Because that's important too.

And then on Epstein I said, you have to be careful here, because this is now being used in political precincts. Both sides want to destroy anybody that was associated with Epstein. And the problem is that a federal investigation. They don't make a determination whether you had a -- what kind of relationship you had with Epstein. They just said, so-and-so had lunch with him.

Or maybe so-and-so had -- saw him at a party. And I said, any name of a human being associated with Epstein, in any way, that person is going to be destroyed. Because you know, the press is not going to put anything into context.

So I said, but it's very important that the Justice Department tell the folks what they know.

And you don't have to get specific with anything.

But you have to say, this is the information that we've compiled. And that's not hard.

And I don't know why the Trump administration is not doing that.

GLENN: Wow!

So, first of all, it's your fault, that we're not getting any names. We learned a lot here.

BILL: Probably my fault, but the president --

GLENN: You know what, I think you're right. I don't want all the names of the people. I want to know --

BILL: And I don't either.

GLENN: Right! I want to know the Justice Department has sorted through the things, and then have gone through. And said, this is criminal. This is not. These people are being indicted, et cetera, et cetera. But to come out and say, there is nothing there, I mean, it's -- it's at least --

BILL: It's ridiculous.

GLENN: It's mass incompetence, at least from Pam Bondi. How could she come out and say, it's all sitting on my desk?

And then when she doesn't release it, she says, well, that's because the FBI in New York is thwarting this process. There are people up there, that are trying to keep this from me.

And then she makes no arrests on that. We never hear about that again.

And then now all of a sudden, there's nothing to see.

BILL: Well, listen, Pam Bondi does not make decisions on her own.

No cabinet member does.

All the decisions come out of the West Wing.

So what I believed happened was, Trump was so obsessed with the big bill, with Iran, with Putin, with China.

That this -- they didn't even think about this. Okay?

GLENN: I believe that.

BILL: And it slowly began to unravel. And then I caught it by surprise.

But this is the easiest fix. Somewhere so easy.

BILL: So if I'm in charge, and that would be a great thing for everyone, except you, Beck -- but every other American, if I were in charge, tremendous. You would be in Botswana. Right.

GLENN: Right. Oh, I know.

Yeah. Yeah. I would be the ambassador of the white farmers in -- in South Africa if it were up to you. I know. I know.

BILL: No. You would be wandering around going, I am Glenn Beck. And they would go, who? That's what you'd be doing.

GLENN: That's every day.

BILL: So this could happen within the hour. Pam Bondi announces a press conference for tomorrow.

At that press conference, sitting next to her, is Merrick Garland, everyone.

You had this stuff for four years! Now, I understand that Mr. Garland has gone native and is living in a -- well, we can find him. We can pull him out of there, and have him and Pam, sit there and answer questions in a general way about what evidence the Justice Department of the United States has compiled.

GLENN: Not going to happen.

BILL: That's it!

Well, if it's not going to happen, then President Trump is going to take a hit.

But he's calculating that this will say that it's that night important.

But I don't know why you would not do it.

I just don't know. And I'm usually pretty good at predicting what the president does or does not do.

GLENN: So here's the thing, Bill.

I think he keeps focusing on Epstein. It's not that big of a deal.

It's not about Epstein. It's about justice.

It's about, can we trust the people -- correct!

It's all about credibility and justice.

And he's not seeing that. And I don't know how he's missing that. Because I agree with you.

He's been so busy on so many other things.

BILL: That's right. That's right.

GLENN: This is not at the top of his priority list.

But he did campaign on it.

BILL: Right.

And I don't know if there's anybody inside the White House.

He looks to be annoyed, when this subject comes up.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

BILL: And here's the -- what works -- you have to understand.

A guy like Donald Trump runs it all.

If he's annoyed, nobody will want to annoy him more. Okay?

GLENN: Oh, I know.

BILL: That's how it works. The older arch is, because Epstein got favorable treatment.

By the feds, in the first go around in Florida, that there's a deep suspicion about this case.

But if you break it down, if the Biden administration had any dirt on any Republican associated with Epstein. It would have been out.

And vice-versa.

If the Republicans had any dirt on any Democrats. Now, we know that former president Clinton, was involved with Epstein to some extent.

I don't know if that was a factor, okay? I don't know.

But your right for once. You're right. It's about credibility. It's about the American people trusting that we do have equal justice for all!

So what do you -- what do you make of now the Russia gate thing, coming out, today. Or yesterday.

The FISA court.

The fact that they're now saying, hey.

You know, we need to hold Brennan accountable.

We're like five or six days away.

Weeks away from him, you know, slipping past the -- the statute of limitations.

I mean, all these things are out today.

There's that. There is also the -- let's see here.

The Secret Service -- I think this happened a year ago.

But it's being reported as if it's news.

Secret Service suspends six agents assigned to protect Trump during a Butler assassination attempt. I mean, all these things are coming out. Like, look, we're busy on all these things. And I do believe they're busy on these things.

But it's like the Keystone Cops are in charge of the PR on this. It's bad.

BILL: Well, there's a lot of politics involved in both of those cases. Number one, in order to get Comey and Brennan to get indicted by a grand jury. Federal grand jury, and that's the only passage, you would have to have a whistle-blower, saying, yeah, these guys abused their power. I worked for them. And they absolutely wanted to get Trump.

And they knew the Russia dossier was phony.

And they did it anyway.

If I have that Justice Department.

Then you can get those guys.

If you don't have it, they will not be even indicted by a grand jury.

GLENN: So how is it that we do not have that Justice Department?

How do we not have that Justice Department?

BILL: Well, look. I don't know whether they have a whistle-blower or not, okay?

And if they have a whistle-blower, I want the case to go forward.

I want those two men indicted.

You can't do that, at that level.

As far as the Secret Service is concerned, monumental screw up. Everybody knows it. They fired the morons in charge of it. That woman -- I was embarrassed listening to her, trying to explain.

They didn't know what the deuce was going on. But this was across-the-board, in the Biden administration.

You know, it was a year ago Sunday, this upcoming Sunday.

GLENN: Right.

BILL: And it's just another example of how the Biden administration was the second worst administration in the history of this country. People have no idea how bad it was.

Every single agency was chaotic. Nothing worked. And this is just part of that. And we'll have a slew of stuff on Sunday. Nothing really meaningful.

I mean, they suspended the Secret Service agents, as they should have. They fired the director as they should have. The guy was a nut.

I don't know if there was anything more to that. I doubt it.

I'm more interested in the guy in the bushes. Because they don't know anything about him. I would like to know a little bit about him.

But again, the federal government, it doesn't really matter. It's the government. They never want to tell us stuff, Beck, never.

We always have to pull it out of them. It's almost like Russia or something. Come on!

GLENN: Right. Yeah. Let me ask you, let me take you back again to the Epstein thing.

I noticed yesterday, there were these people who were on the left. Who were taking tweets of mine. That say, look. These things don't make sense. On the Epstein thing. And they just have to be answered. And not anti-Trump at all.

And yet, the anti-Trump people were retweeting that, and they're trying to -- they're trying to get the right to fight against itself again and split people away from Donald Trump, where I don't think this Epstein thing is -- is splitting people from Donald Trump, at least at this point.

And I -- you know, I -- my wife stopped me from answering some of those tweets, yesterday.

Because it's never good, when you -- when I tweet in anger. Which I did.

But -- or was going to. What did you think about how this is being used against the right to try to separate us even more?

BILL: Everything is political. Everybody knows that for you.

But the MAGA people, from the mail I get. And I get a voluminous amount of mail. They're not happy.

GLENN: Oh, I agree. I'm not happy.

BILL: Now, are they going to throw President Trump under the cliché-ridden bus? No. Because to them, the greater good is being served by a fair tax bill.

Trying to cut waste.

Dealing with Iran effectively. And hopefully dealing with Putin.

That's another thing, that's on Trump's plate.

He has to deal with Putin now.

Has to. And that will be the next big story.

GLENN: How is he going to deal with it?

BILL: Lavrov and Rubio, are in Indonesia, as we speak.

And I assume that Rubio is delivering a message. That you either stop, or we're going to just absolutely crush you economically. Which the United States can do. By saying. No bank does business with Moscow.

And if you do business, no matter what bank you are, we're going to put you out of business.

Okay?

GLENN: Yeah. I've only got a couple of seconds. But didn't we already do that under Biden?

BILL: No! We didn't do the banks. We did the sanctions. And the sanctions they can always get around, because China is going to buy as much oil from Russia as possible.

You stop the banks, from doing all business with Moscow? Who is going --

GLENN: Isn't that what the SWIFT thing was all about?

When we kicked them off of SWIFT, wasn't that what that was all about?

BILL: No! Because they can still do a huge business with countries buying their oil.

And they got to pay Putin and Russia for the oil, and that has to go through the banking system.

If you stop the banking system, he can't get paid.

GLENN: Hmm, it's amazing. I'm glad I'm not the president right now. I think he's made some very brave decisions, and he is walking a tightrope. I mean, the world is on edge. And I pray for --

BILL: He looks very tired to me. Very tired. I haven't talked to him in a while, which is unusual. But you're right. You're absolutely right. That's the second time you've been right in this conversation. My God!

GLENN: I know. It's crazy.

BILL: What in the world.

GLENN: I was wrong about you being dead.

BILL: What is happening?

GLENN: It's good -- it's good to talk to you, my friend. Is everything okay? Is everything going well?

BILL: Everything is all right, Beck. We are not only successful, but that's old news. We've been that way for 50 years, but I appreciate you having me on your fine program.

GLENN: Okay. I love you.

BILL: Stu is still breathing.

GLENN: Hmm.

BILL: So that's good. Right.

But I've got a big book called Confronting Evil. Of course, we sent it, and of course you denied getting it. That comes out September 9th, so put me on a dance card.

GLENN: Well, we'll have you on. And you can also find Bill and his YouTube page. YouTube.com/BillOReilly. Or is it The Walking Dead?
(laughter)
He's not even laughing. Maybe he hung up. Bill O'Reilly, great to have him on.

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