‘How do we make it the next two years without getting into real trouble with some of these countries?’ Glenn asks former U.S. Ambassador to the UN and current 2024 GOP Presidential Candidate, Nikki Haley. ‘I mean, honestly,’ she says, ‘We better start praying.’ Haley joins Glenn to discuss the current tension brewing throughout the world and how President Biden is FAILING the American people in his responses to it all. She explains why war for America is NOT an option and how we can prevent it through the type of strength President Trump demonstrated while in office. Plus, Haley explains why the recent China spy balloon fiasco was just as much an embarrassment for the U.S. (and for the Biden Administration) as the botched Afghanistan withdrawal and why transparency ‘at every level’ is KEY to America’s success moving forward…
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: Nikki, welcome to the program. How are you?
NIKKI: Hi, Glenn. It's great to be with you.
GLENN: It's great to be with you. Listen, I know we have a short period of time, so I want to get through an awful lot.
First, let me make sure everybody understands. This is Nikki Haley. She's running for president, even though she's past her prime, and only uses her brownness to mask her white supremacy.
NIKKI: You know, I mean, I have always made liberal heads to explode. They can't stand the thought that a minority -- a conservative minority female would not be Democrat.
And they just throw anything and everything. And, you know, it's just -- it means we're winning.
They know that -- they know that I pull independents. They know I pull suburban women.
They know I pull minorities. And so if that's all they've got, bring it.
GLENN: Yeah, I want to talk to you about, I'm very concerned about what I think is this march to global war.
You know, we have -- we have spent all of our capital, on, you know, peace through strength. We look incredibly weak.
The president was over in Ukraine. You know, its regime change are nothing, I think.
What -- what are we doing?
Is -- what are we doing?
NIKKI: Well, first of all, this isn't peace through strength. Let's start with the fact that Biden should not be in Ukraine right now. He should be in Ohio, with the people who are hurting.
NIKKI: And that's problem number one. Is that you never have a crisis happen, and not be with your people.
So that's my first bone to pick with him. You know, the second thing is, he's never shown any strength.
I mean, all we have to do -- you know, none of this would be happening.
Let's see very clear. None of this would be happening, if we didn't have the debacle in Afghanistan.
That sent so many ripple effects. I mean, the idea that we would leave Bagram Air Force Base, in the middle of the night, without telling our allies who stood shoulder to shoulder with us for decades.
I mean, nothing was more embarrassing than that. So that sent a huge message to our allies. But it sent a bigger message to our enemies.
GLENN: So what should we be doing?
We're in Ukraine, just sending everything over. Another $500 million. Now I guess we're paying for their pensions. China is all pissed off at us. They're threatening the Philippines.
I mean, Israel is probably going to hit Iran. North Korea is flexing its muscles.
Are we a nation headed towards war, because we look so weak?
NIKKI: Well, we have to understand that war is not an option. We have to prevent war. The way you prevent war, is, first of all -- I mean, when it comes to Ukraine, I will tell you, I don't think we should ever send cash. I don't think we should send blank checks. I think we should rally the NATO troops. NATO countries. And saying, what are you sending? What are you sending?
And we need to make sure that Ukraine has the equipment and ammunition from all of us to make sure they can win.
They have proven that they can do that. If Biden would have done that quickly in the beginning, and rallied the troops with the NATO countries, we wouldn't be sitting in this position. But what you do, is they have the ability to win. They don't need us to do that. They just need the equipment to do it.
The second thing is, if we see Ukraine follow through, which Russia has lost 200,000 troops. They raised the draft age to 65.
You know he's losing when he's getting drones from Iran and missiles from North Korea.
What we have to do is let them finish the job, and that will send the biggest message to China, Iran, and any enemy or dictator that wants to destroy the West.
Because China very much sees the West as the big sinners, and they are determined to take us over. And, Glenn, I've got to say. The idea that Americans, that American children would look to the sky and see a Chinese spy balloon, looking back at them, is the most unthinkable national embarrassment we could have ever had.
And that's no different than Afghanistan. Because the rest of the world, is going, what in the world is happening with America?
GLENN: All right. So let me go back on a couple of things. You said, provide them, you know, the tools.
Does that include jets and tanks?
NIKKI: Well, I think that, first of all, when we sent that -- you know, if we had sent the anti-javelin tanks. You know, President Trump did that. And that was a big win for them. Because that's what they needed to be able to finish the deal.
We have to go with the NATO countries in saying, what are you sending? But I think you send what they need to win.
But we don't do it alone, we do it with the other country. They will win this. And they will win this sooner, when we stop dragging our feet.
We don't need to worry about sending cash to keep their government going. We need to worry to make sure that they have the ammunition to fight, because they have the will. They are trying to protect their freedoms. They're trying to save their country.
We just need to give them the ability to do that.
GLENN: So when we tell China, that they can't send any aid over, or that will be a line that they'll cross with us.
How do we have any credibility?
NIKKI: I mean, China will do what China is going to do.
First of all, China usually got arms from Russia.
It was never Russia getting arms from China. China typically sends parts. That's mostly what China ends up giving to Russia.
But, look, I mean, you can't trust either one of these countries.
The problem is, don't forget, before this war started, China and Russian declared themselves unlimited partners. And they said Iran was their junior partner.
They are determined to make sure that the West falls.
We have to be determined, to make sure that we are the ones that show that freedom reigns. And that freedom will always reign. And that we as freedom-loving countries, will stick together, to make sure that happens. If they see that, China doesn't want -- China sees what happens to Russia with all the sanctions. They don't want that to happen to them.
So we don't need to be sending threats, saying you can't send this to Russia. We just need to send the idea. That, look, we're unbreakable. This isn't going to happen. You see what happened to Russia, that could happen to you as well.
GLENN: I have said for years, that there will come a time when the rest of the world will sense our weakness. And they'll say, now. Go. Go. Go.
I think we're at that point.
NIKKI: We're completely at that point.
GLENN: And there's no way to -- I mean, there's nothing this president can do, that will send the message, that we're tough. Because we're not.
He's not. He's not a serious threat, to anyone, if somebody threatens us.
I don't even think our Pentagon really is a threat to us, at this point. The way they're being run. And what they did in Afghanistan.
How do we make it the next two years, without getting into real trouble with some of these countries?
NIKKI: I mean, honestly, Glenn. And I'm not being funny here. We better start praying. Because if he's not even going to protect our borders. And you have terrorists coming across our borders. You have Russian terrorists coming across our borders. The fact that he's not even doing that, that is so much -- they know this is the weakest president we've ever had in history. And they know if ever there was a time they wanted to get territory. If ever there was a time they wanted to defeat us, it's now.
So Biden is doing nothing. He's literally doing nothing. And so what I can do tell you is as a military wife, who doesn't want to see America go to war, I will tell you that the second that we start getting control of America back, the second we start showing strength, the second we show how strong our military is, strong militaries don't start wars. Strong militaries prevent war. We have to start acting like the strong country that we used to be. And you do that, not be reacting to countries.
You do it by telling them, what you expect of them. That's what went wrong.
If you look at when President Trump was in office, he and I did it at the UN. He was there. He told countries, what they should expect with us.
I made it to a point when I went to the UN. I told them what the US was for. And what the US was against. I didn't care if they didn't like me, but I wanted them to respect America. That's where we have to get back to again.
GLENN: You know, Trump surrogates are suckling that you're more of a globalist war hawk.
You have told me how much you respect President Trump. How do you stay above the fray, with Donald Trump?
Why did you decide -- you said once, I'm not going to run, if he's running. But you are now.
And how do we stop this from being ugly?
NIKKI: Well, first of all, when I said I wasn't going to run against them, we had not had the fall in Afghanistan. We did have Biden fall all over himself, to get back into the Iran Deal. We didn't see all of these closings in schools. We didn't lose the midterms.
GLENN: Things change.
NIKKI: So when I look at this, I think we have to start looking forward. There have been a lot of chaos in the past. People love to talk about the past.
We've got to move forward. I was a governor. I took a hurting state, and I turned it to the beast of the southeast. When I was at the UN, I took the kick me sign, off of our back.
I am a problem solver. I want to get in there. I want to fix it. And I do think it's time for a new generation do go in there. I don't think you have to be 80 years old to run for president. President Trump is my friend. He's my friend. But I think it's time for something new. And I think we need to start boldly going, where we haven't gone before. And start righting the ship.
And, you know, I think that if ever there was a time, America is tired of losing. America is tired of losing.
And we have to do that. Now, how do we keep it from not getting messy. I'm not kicking sideways. I'm kicking forward.
I'm not going and focusing on President Trump. I'm focusing on President Biden and how awful he's leading our country.
And that's where we're going to focus. And, you know, if those others choose to get dirty. And you see how the south combusted over the fact that I'm running. They can do that.
But I am very focused. And very disciplined. On the fact that American families can't afford their groceries. Mothers are looking for baby formula.
Children are so far behind in their education, we don't know if we can catch them back up. We have open borders. We have our minds closed by woke ideology.
And we have a Chinese spy balloon in the air. I mean, something has to give. I'm not going to wait for somebody else to fix it. I'm going to get in there and fix it.
GLENN: So you talked about a competency test for politicians. Recently. And we didn't have this problem. You know, when George Washington retired after his second term.
That set the standard, until the Progressive Era. And the progressives just wanted to be more autocratic, and keep the power centralized. And everybody can run for as when terms as they want. Which we saw with -- with FDR.
When you talk about a competency test. That's clear with Joe Biden.
It is clear with Feinstein.
It's -- it's clear with our new Senator from Pennsylvania.
But it's not really just the competency of the people in office.
Honestly, that's competency of the voter. How do you not -- it's not that they just won't leave.
It's just, the voter can see it.
And they still vote for it.
NIKKI: Well, I think I am strongly.
And I will push for term limits.
I do think we need to have mental competency tests for anyone over 75. Look at DC. And look at everybody there from Dianne Feinstein to Bernie Sanders, pitched a fit yesterday, on the fact that I said that.
And that's all the reason we have to do that.
It's about transparency, Glenn. We need to realize that government works for the people, not the other way around.
That means that elected officials don't get to go up there. And do what they want. And show the power they want. They need to be transparent to the American people.
Don't forget, when I was a state legislator in South Carolina, our legislators weren't showing their votes on the record.
We had a Republican House, a Republican Senate, and Republican governor. And my focus was, if you are debating anything on the floor of the House or the Senate, you have to show legislative votes on the record. I was completely blackballed. So I ran for governor.
And now South Carolina shows every vote on the record. Every ounce of transparency, from health care, to term limits, to competency tests. When the American people see who is really in DC. When they see what they're doing. We will expose all of that. Because we need to light a fire under our elected officials.
Congress is not working. And something has to give.
GLENN: It's also though, if you get rid of the -- you put term limits there unelected. And not on these so-called public servants. Who have long careers.
And they make up the Deep State. They don't care who is elected.
They're outlasting them. Would you consider doing that. And reducing the size, or abolishing a lot of the agencies under the president?
NIKKI: Well, you first have to start by being able to fire whoever you need to fire.
I mean, when I was at the United Nations, I saw how entrenched they were. Obama was very smart. When he was leaving office, he went and basically promoted all of middle management to senior management, so that they couldn't get fired.
We have toggle clean our agencies out, from the inside out.
Look at our intelligence agencies right now. Look at the DOJ right now. Look at the State Department.
All of those, we have to go in there, and clean house. And I did that in South Carolina as governor. You go in and you let them know what you expected. And anybody that is not walking a line, where they understand they work for the people. You get rid of them.
You know, when I went to the UN, my very first week, John Kerry's sister worked at the UN, in the US embassy of the UN. And she went and started causing trouble the very first week. I told them. I said, get rid of her. And they said, oh, you can't get rid of her. She doesn't retire for six more months. I said, send her home, I don't care. She does not work in here.
You can't have poison in a situation, and think you're going to fix it. You have to get rid of all the toxicity.
GLENN: Nikki Haley running as a presidential candidate for the G.O.P. in 2024.
You can find all the information on her, and support her candidacy by going to NikkiHaley.com. That's NikkiHaley.com. Nikki, thank you so much.
NIKKI: Thank you, my friend. Talk to you soon.
GLENN: You bet. Buh-bye.