RADIOFebruary 22, 2023

Nikki Haley on America's safety under Biden: ‘START PRAYING’

‘How do we make it the next two years without getting into real trouble with some of these countries?’ Glenn asks former U.S. Ambassador to the UN and current 2024 GOP Presidential Candidate, Nikki Haley. ‘I mean, honestly,’ she says, ‘We better start praying.’ Haley joins Glenn to discuss the current tension brewing throughout the world and how President Biden is FAILING the American people in his responses to it all. She explains why war for America is NOT an option and how we can prevent it through the type of strength President Trump demonstrated while in office. Plus, Haley explains why the recent China spy balloon fiasco was just as much an embarrassment for the U.S. (and for the Biden Administration) as the botched Afghanistan withdrawal and why transparency ‘at every level’ is KEY to America’s success moving forward…

Transcript

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GLENN: Nikki, welcome to the program. How are you?

NIKKI: Hi, Glenn. It's great to be with you.

GLENN: It's great to be with you. Listen, I know we have a short period of time, so I want to get through an awful lot.

First, let me make sure everybody understands. This is Nikki Haley. She's running for president, even though she's past her prime, and only uses her brownness to mask her white supremacy.
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NIKKI: You know, I mean, I have always made liberal heads to explode. They can't stand the thought that a minority -- a conservative minority female would not be Democrat.

And they just throw anything and everything. And, you know, it's just -- it means we're winning.

They know that -- they know that I pull independents. They know I pull suburban women.

They know I pull minorities. And so if that's all they've got, bring it.

GLENN: Yeah, I want to talk to you about, I'm very concerned about what I think is this march to global war.

You know, we have -- we have spent all of our capital, on, you know, peace through strength. We look incredibly weak.

The president was over in Ukraine. You know, its regime change are nothing, I think.

What -- what are we doing?

Is -- what are we doing?

NIKKI: Well, first of all, this isn't peace through strength. Let's start with the fact that Biden should not be in Ukraine right now. He should be in Ohio, with the people who are hurting.

GLENN: Yes.

NIKKI: And that's problem number one. Is that you never have a crisis happen, and not be with your people.

So that's my first bone to pick with him. You know, the second thing is, he's never shown any strength.

I mean, all we have to do -- you know, none of this would be happening.

Let's see very clear. None of this would be happening, if we didn't have the debacle in Afghanistan.

That sent so many ripple effects. I mean, the idea that we would leave Bagram Air Force Base, in the middle of the night, without telling our allies who stood shoulder to shoulder with us for decades.

I mean, nothing was more embarrassing than that. So that sent a huge message to our allies. But it sent a bigger message to our enemies.

GLENN: So what should we be doing?

We're in Ukraine, just sending everything over. Another $500 million. Now I guess we're paying for their pensions. China is all pissed off at us. They're threatening the Philippines.

I mean, Israel is probably going to hit Iran. North Korea is flexing its muscles.

Are we a nation headed towards war, because we look so weak?

NIKKI: Well, we have to understand that war is not an option. We have to prevent war. The way you prevent war, is, first of all -- I mean, when it comes to Ukraine, I will tell you, I don't think we should ever send cash. I don't think we should send blank checks. I think we should rally the NATO troops. NATO countries. And saying, what are you sending? What are you sending?

And we need to make sure that Ukraine has the equipment and ammunition from all of us to make sure they can win.

They have proven that they can do that. If Biden would have done that quickly in the beginning, and rallied the troops with the NATO countries, we wouldn't be sitting in this position. But what you do, is they have the ability to win. They don't need us to do that. They just need the equipment to do it.

The second thing is, if we see Ukraine follow through, which Russia has lost 200,000 troops. They raised the draft age to 65.

You know he's losing when he's getting drones from Iran and missiles from North Korea.

What we have to do is let them finish the job, and that will send the biggest message to China, Iran, and any enemy or dictator that wants to destroy the West.

Because China very much sees the West as the big sinners, and they are determined to take us over. And, Glenn, I've got to say. The idea that Americans, that American children would look to the sky and see a Chinese spy balloon, looking back at them, is the most unthinkable national embarrassment we could have ever had.

And that's no different than Afghanistan. Because the rest of the world, is going, what in the world is happening with America?

GLENN: All right. So let me go back on a couple of things. You said, provide them, you know, the tools.

Does that include jets and tanks?

NIKKI: Well, I think that, first of all, when we sent that -- you know, if we had sent the anti-javelin tanks. You know, President Trump did that. And that was a big win for them. Because that's what they needed to be able to finish the deal.

We have to go with the NATO countries in saying, what are you sending? But I think you send what they need to win.

But we don't do it alone, we do it with the other country. They will win this. And they will win this sooner, when we stop dragging our feet.

We don't need to worry about sending cash to keep their government going. We need to worry to make sure that they have the ammunition to fight, because they have the will. They are trying to protect their freedoms. They're trying to save their country.

We just need to give them the ability to do that.

GLENN: So when we tell China, that they can't send any aid over, or that will be a line that they'll cross with us.

How do we have any credibility?

NIKKI: I mean, China will do what China is going to do.

First of all, China usually got arms from Russia.

It was never Russia getting arms from China. China typically sends parts. That's mostly what China ends up giving to Russia.

But, look, I mean, you can't trust either one of these countries.

The problem is, don't forget, before this war started, China and Russian declared themselves unlimited partners. And they said Iran was their junior partner.

They are determined to make sure that the West falls.

We have to be determined, to make sure that we are the ones that show that freedom reigns. And that freedom will always reign. And that we as freedom-loving countries, will stick together, to make sure that happens. If they see that, China doesn't want -- China sees what happens to Russia with all the sanctions. They don't want that to happen to them.

So we don't need to be sending threats, saying you can't send this to Russia. We just need to send the idea. That, look, we're unbreakable. This isn't going to happen. You see what happened to Russia, that could happen to you as well.

GLENN: I have said for years, that there will come a time when the rest of the world will sense our weakness. And they'll say, now. Go. Go. Go.

I think we're at that point.

NIKKI: We're completely at that point.

GLENN: And there's no way to -- I mean, there's nothing this president can do, that will send the message, that we're tough. Because we're not.

He's not. He's not a serious threat, to anyone, if somebody threatens us.

I don't even think our Pentagon really is a threat to us, at this point. The way they're being run. And what they did in Afghanistan.

How do we make it the next two years, without getting into real trouble with some of these countries?

NIKKI: I mean, honestly, Glenn. And I'm not being funny here. We better start praying. Because if he's not even going to protect our borders. And you have terrorists coming across our borders. You have Russian terrorists coming across our borders. The fact that he's not even doing that, that is so much -- they know this is the weakest president we've ever had in history. And they know if ever there was a time they wanted to get territory. If ever there was a time they wanted to defeat us, it's now.

So Biden is doing nothing. He's literally doing nothing. And so what I can do tell you is as a military wife, who doesn't want to see America go to war, I will tell you that the second that we start getting control of America back, the second we start showing strength, the second we show how strong our military is, strong militaries don't start wars. Strong militaries prevent war. We have to start acting like the strong country that we used to be. And you do that, not be reacting to countries.

You do it by telling them, what you expect of them. That's what went wrong.

If you look at when President Trump was in office, he and I did it at the UN. He was there. He told countries, what they should expect with us.

I made it to a point when I went to the UN. I told them what the US was for. And what the US was against. I didn't care if they didn't like me, but I wanted them to respect America. That's where we have to get back to again.

GLENN: You know, Trump surrogates are suckling that you're more of a globalist war hawk.

You have told me how much you respect President Trump. How do you stay above the fray, with Donald Trump?

Why did you decide -- you said once, I'm not going to run, if he's running. But you are now.

And how do we stop this from being ugly?

NIKKI: Well, first of all, when I said I wasn't going to run against them, we had not had the fall in Afghanistan. We did have Biden fall all over himself, to get back into the Iran Deal. We didn't see all of these closings in schools. We didn't lose the midterms.

GLENN: Things change.

NIKKI: So when I look at this, I think we have to start looking forward. There have been a lot of chaos in the past. People love to talk about the past.

We've got to move forward. I was a governor. I took a hurting state, and I turned it to the beast of the southeast. When I was at the UN, I took the kick me sign, off of our back.

I am a problem solver. I want to get in there. I want to fix it. And I do think it's time for a new generation do go in there. I don't think you have to be 80 years old to run for president. President Trump is my friend. He's my friend. But I think it's time for something new. And I think we need to start boldly going, where we haven't gone before. And start righting the ship.

And, you know, I think that if ever there was a time, America is tired of losing. America is tired of losing.

And we have to do that. Now, how do we keep it from not getting messy. I'm not kicking sideways. I'm kicking forward.

I'm not going and focusing on President Trump. I'm focusing on President Biden and how awful he's leading our country.

And that's where we're going to focus. And, you know, if those others choose to get dirty. And you see how the south combusted over the fact that I'm running. They can do that.

But I am very focused. And very disciplined. On the fact that American families can't afford their groceries. Mothers are looking for baby formula.

Children are so far behind in their education, we don't know if we can catch them back up. We have open borders. We have our minds closed by woke ideology.

And we have a Chinese spy balloon in the air. I mean, something has to give. I'm not going to wait for somebody else to fix it. I'm going to get in there and fix it.

GLENN: So you talked about a competency test for politicians. Recently. And we didn't have this problem. You know, when George Washington retired after his second term.

That set the standard, until the Progressive Era. And the progressives just wanted to be more autocratic, and keep the power centralized. And everybody can run for as when terms as they want. Which we saw with -- with FDR.

When you talk about a competency test. That's clear with Joe Biden.

It is clear with Feinstein.

It's -- it's clear with our new Senator from Pennsylvania.

But it's not really just the competency of the people in office.

Honestly, that's competency of the voter. How do you not -- it's not that they just won't leave.

It's just, the voter can see it.

And they still vote for it.

NIKKI: Well, I think I am strongly.

And I will push for term limits.

I do think we need to have mental competency tests for anyone over 75. Look at DC. And look at everybody there from Dianne Feinstein to Bernie Sanders, pitched a fit yesterday, on the fact that I said that.

And that's all the reason we have to do that.

It's about transparency, Glenn. We need to realize that government works for the people, not the other way around.

That means that elected officials don't get to go up there. And do what they want. And show the power they want. They need to be transparent to the American people.

Don't forget, when I was a state legislator in South Carolina, our legislators weren't showing their votes on the record.

We had a Republican House, a Republican Senate, and Republican governor. And my focus was, if you are debating anything on the floor of the House or the Senate, you have to show legislative votes on the record. I was completely blackballed. So I ran for governor.

And now South Carolina shows every vote on the record. Every ounce of transparency, from health care, to term limits, to competency tests. When the American people see who is really in DC. When they see what they're doing. We will expose all of that. Because we need to light a fire under our elected officials.

Congress is not working. And something has to give.

GLENN: It's also though, if you get rid of the -- you put term limits there unelected. And not on these so-called public servants. Who have long careers.

And they make up the Deep State. They don't care who is elected.

They're outlasting them. Would you consider doing that. And reducing the size, or abolishing a lot of the agencies under the president?

NIKKI: Well, you first have to start by being able to fire whoever you need to fire.

I mean, when I was at the United Nations, I saw how entrenched they were. Obama was very smart. When he was leaving office, he went and basically promoted all of middle management to senior management, so that they couldn't get fired.

We have toggle clean our agencies out, from the inside out.

Look at our intelligence agencies right now. Look at the DOJ right now. Look at the State Department.

All of those, we have to go in there, and clean house. And I did that in South Carolina as governor. You go in and you let them know what you expected. And anybody that is not walking a line, where they understand they work for the people. You get rid of them.

You know, when I went to the UN, my very first week, John Kerry's sister worked at the UN, in the US embassy of the UN. And she went and started causing trouble the very first week. I told them. I said, get rid of her. And they said, oh, you can't get rid of her. She doesn't retire for six more months. I said, send her home, I don't care. She does not work in here.

You can't have poison in a situation, and think you're going to fix it. You have to get rid of all the toxicity.

GLENN: Nikki Haley running as a presidential candidate for the G.O.P. in 2024.

You can find all the information on her, and support her candidacy by going to NikkiHaley.com. That's NikkiHaley.com. Nikki, thank you so much.

NIKKI: Thank you, my friend. Talk to you soon.

GLENN: You bet. Buh-bye.

Canada FORCED this hospice center to EUTHANIZE its patients?!

Canada is forcing its Medical Assistance in Dying program, which offers euthanasia as a “medical treatment” option, on hospice centers. Delta Hospice Society executive director Angelina Ireland joins Glenn Beck to give the horrific details of how far the government went to try and get her to bend the knee: “I call it a culling. It’s a Canadian cull.”

Transcript

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GLENN: Let me take you to Canada for just a second.

And I want to -- this is a story that happened a while ago. But I want to just show you the dangers of public/private partnerships.

You're hearing this all the time. And every time, Joe Biden would say, public will she private partnership. It was all the Green New Deal and everything else.

I kept saying, that is fascism. That is exactly the deal that Mussolini and Hitler made. That's the difference between Communism and fascism.

They let you do your own thing. But you're a partner with the government. And as long as you abide by all of their rules, you're fine!

But the minute you disagree, you don't have a say. They'll throw you out on the street, so fast, your head will spin.

And that's exactly what happened to a hospice center. The Delta Hospice Society.

I have the -- the executive director on. Angelina Ireland.

And I asked her to come on today, to tell us the story of what happened, to her hospice facility.

Angelina, thank you for joining me.

ANGELINA: Hello, again. Thank you so much for having me today.

GLENN: You bet. You bet.

So you -- the hospice society is a public/private partnership with Canada.

You guys raised $8.5 million to build this property. And you negotiated a 25 or 35 million-dollar lease for the property. Right?

Tell me about this.

ANGELINA: Right. So we're a private society. So a 34-year organization.

Palliative care is basically, you take care of people, when they're chronically ill or terminally ill. You take care of them well.

So we fundraised over a couple -- a few years ago, $8 million to open a hospice and a palliative care support center next door. And so we raised that money.

We got a 35-year land lease with the public health authority. We built two buildings. A ten-bed hospice, a 7500 square foot supportive care center, where we did our counseling, all the supportive programs.

And then the service agreement was for operating costs. So every year, they give us $1.4 million, and we built those buildings. We opened them, and we operated our program, at the hospice for ten years.

Everything went fine, until this thing they called, the state euthanasia program called MAID. Right?

GLENN: Maid.

ANGELINA: And then the province basically came to us and said, you will have to start providing euthanasia. You will have to start killing your patients in the hospice. Because you're getting -- you're getting public money, right?

We said, absolutely not. We absolutely will not.

At which point, you're exactly right.

The fascism kicked in. I just call it stone cold communism.

And said, you're not getting any money, if you don't start killing your patients.

So then they cancelled that service agreement.

Which means, that's fine.

Look, we don't need your money. We'll be fine without your money.

Which apparently is the wrong answer.
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GLENN: Yeah.

ANGELINA: Then they went after the lease. And we had 25 years left on that land lease, and they cancelled it.

And now, these incidentals like the buildings on them, they just consider those to be some kind of an old shack or fence, and they expropriated. So at the end of the day, they evicted, the organization from our buildings. They expropriated those assets, which were valued at eight and a half million dollars. Kicked us out, and took -- took our stuff.

And then they -- they started to operate our hospice, and they put in the euthanasia.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

They give no money for the buildings. I mean, it was their land, right? That's kind of the public/private partnership. You're taking money from them to run it, but you said to them, we don't need it.

But also, that was -- was that not federal land, that you were on? Or some sort of medical kind of preparedness of Canada.

JASON: It was. Well, it was.

Which is considered to be -- well, it was belonged to the health authority, but it was a registered lease. The titled office with 25 years left.

GLENN: Right. Right.

ANGELINA: So we had a right to be there. And of course to continue on for another 25 years.

But, of course, no, they didn't allow it.

GLENN: So when you went to the court. What did the court say?

ANGELINA: Well, you see, we didn't that get far. Because we went to three very, very prominent lawyers. And they told us straight-up.

You're not going to win.

You understand this, people?

You might walk in with one lawyer. They're going to walk in with 15 lawyers, all funded by the taxpayer.

GLENN: The government. Yeah.

ANGELINA: And you may win the first round. But you will not win -- they will tie it up. And it's called lawfare. They advised us again and again and again, to just move on. Take our punches. Take the licking from the government, and move on.

The important thing for us, was to hold on to our organization.

Because then the euthanasia after this, came for us. To try to take everything.

And we still have assets. But we did lose our bricks and mortar in the moment.

GLENN: That is crazy.

You know, I have described what's happening all around the world. With the -- with the extreme left.

With Islamists.

Not Muslims.

Islamists.

What is happening with the Communists and the fascists, is a death cult. It all seems to revolve around death. They take glee in death.

And Canada is shockingly, in many ways, leading the way on this with MAID.

You don't even know how many people are killed now with MAID a year, do you?

ANGELINA: No. We don't. We do not. I call it a culling. It's a Canadian cull. They're killing the sick people, the mentally ill, the disabled. Veterans. Homeless. The poor.

And then they're going after the children. But we do not know the numbers, exactly. I mean, the government is admitting to 60,000. There's absolutely no way it's 60,000.

I think they forgot a zero.

It's widespread. It's now considered a health care option.

When the doctor comes to a sick and vulnerable patient and saying, how would you just like to die? It's gotten completely out of hand.

It's truly a national horror for Canadians. For certainly people of faith in my country.

Pro-life for my country.

That we have no control over this.

We have no access to authentic true numbers, information.

And this whole consortium, that I call empire MAID has taken over the health care system.

GLENN: What is the -- what's the goal of this?

Do you think?

What's really behind it?

ANGELINA: Certainly. You know, so they want to talk about -- they -- they have captured the moral high ground on this, right?

If you want to be compassionate. You will have to start to kill people.

That's the only way to be compassionate. That's the only way to provide human rights.

So that very potent message, they've been able to roll it to a narrative, which is incredibly horrid.

The word is like -- it aches me. It's overwhelming.

GLENN: Yeah. Right.

ANGELINA: But why? Our public health care system, which is what happens when any government goes completely public. We have no private available.

It is illegal. It's bankrupt. We have --

GLENN: Hold on just a second. I want Americans to hear this.

Private health care, being a doctor and providing private health care is illegal in Canada.

ANGELINA: Yes, it is. The only thing you can do is to have cosmetic things done privately. That's it. You want a boob job, a nose job. You can go ahead, get a doctor and pay for that.

Everything else, it must be administered through the state, period. It has to go up to the Supreme Court of Canada. So this is undisputable.

Private health care is illegal.

GLENN: You know, I look at -- we're -- you have several states that are now trying to pass much of this.

And they are in the laws, that are being passed.

It is -- it is -- it's a requirement not to put assisted suicide down on the death.

So you have cancer.

But you didn't die of cancer.

You had cancer.

You have depression. And the doctors said, well, you can kill yourself over that.

It does not say, assisted suicide.

It is going to be illegal to put that on the death certificates.

It just has to say, depression.

Cancer.

Whatever it is.

That they helped you kill yourself over, that's -- that's what the cause of death is.

So you'll never, ever be able to count it!

You'll never be able to track it!

It is just evil, evil what's happening.

ANGELINA: It's true.

And how many people will be killed by the state? That is going to be the question. You will never know, that you are giving far too much power to the state.

Unaccountable.

Unquestionable.

GLENN: Are you -- are you shocked at the -- because I am here in America.

I mean, we just -- New York just voted for an Islamist who is saying, you know, he is for Hamas.

He is also a communist.

And they just elected him, or, you know, chose him as the Democratic candidate.

And nobody really seems to care!

When it comes to death all over, when you're seeing these things happen, I am shocked by my own citizens! Do you feel that way in Canada?

ANGELINA: Well, I personally am not shocked.

Because I know that the only thing that the socialists and the Communists ever do well, was kill people.

This should not come as a shock to anyone.

The -- the short sightedness unfortunately of a people. Is that they tend to get rewarded in the short term.

They give them stuff, money. Benefits.

It's only crops.

Ultimately, it will -- at the literal demise to allow, this kind of philosophy, political ideology.

To come into your country. Somewhere are you hopeful for the future, Angelina?

ANGELINA: You know, I love my country. To be honest with you, I am not. I am not.

We have seen in my country, an overwhelming immigration. That has come in. Talking about millions of people in a very short time.

That has literally destroyed our infrastructure, brought the health care system, to its knees.

A lot of people in my country, don't even have a family doctor.

They can't find a family doctor. They have to wait for months, upon years for the simplest of procedures.

And it isn't getting any better. So, you know, I pray because, of course, I am a person of faith. And I'm an apologetic Christian.

This is, again, very unpopular in my country.

But, you know, only God will be able to help us.

At this point.

GLENN: Thank you for ending it that way. Angelina, I appreciate it. Thank you for standing up and being vocal, and letting people of the world know that light still does exist, even though the darkness is growing.

Darker, faster. Thank you, Angelina. Appreciate it.

From Canada.

Did the Swamp RUIN the Big Beautiful Bill?

The Senate just sent the “Big Beautiful Bill” back to the House. But Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn Beck with a warning: This isn’t the same bill President Trump proposed! The Swamp has made sure to cut back on its reforms. But are Trump’s tax cuts too important to fail?

Transcript

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GLENN: Chip Roy is with us from the great state of Texas.

Chip is a congressman, and welcome to the program. How are you, Chip?

CHIP: Well, Glenn, I'm -- you know, I'm continuing to work through, and trying to deliver the American people. But it's getting hard.

I'm with you. I'm tired of this bill right now.

GLENN: Yeah, you're living the dream, brother.

You are just living -- who doesn't want your job?

My gosh, what's -- what -- a glorious. Glorious, fun-filled life you must live.

CHIP: Yeah, there's -- there's been -- no, no, no.

GLENN: So tell me.

Tell me, is this thing gotten better or worse?

CHIP: Unfortunately, Glenn. I believe it's gotten worse.

Now, we've not seen the final product of the Senate. We don't have the tax. We've got to review it.

I try to be level-headed during these things. I had enormously strong and good friends in the administration, who in good faith, want to see this pass. Just as you do. Just as I do, just as the American people do.

They want to see a move forward in legislation to make tax cuts permanent. To deliver on the border funding that we need. You know, Steven Miller is a long-time friend. I've known him 25 years.

Russ Voit is a long-time friend. I've known him for 25 years. We've been working together in the trenches for as long as I can remember. We all want to deliver.

The problem is, the swamp is going to swamp.

And right now, we have a bill, that in my estimation, violates the house framework.

But more importantly, would add significantly to the deficits. Now, we have differing views.

GLENN: More. More than it did. More than it did, right?

CHIP: Quite a bit, in my view.

And look, there is going to be a debate about this. About tax cuts. And revenues. And all the stuff.

And I get it. Baseline. CBO. All these different things. I'm just telling you, Glenn, as objectively as I can, I look at the math, and I look at how you factor in economic growth, which I'm doing. Factor in revenues. And expenditures.

And what we're doing, on mandatory spending.

Which is not enough.

The fact that we're only repealing half of the green new scam, if we're lucky.

The fact that we're continuing to allow Medicaid. To go to illegals. Because of some arcane center rules.

The fact that we're continuing to allow Obamacare subsidies to fund transgender surgeries.

The fact that we're going to -- in my estimation, have probably a couple of trillion of deficit spending in the first four years.

Which means, you will have more interest.

Which means, it's going to stack up, all to get savings, in five years.

That's not what you and I signed up for.

Now, I'm looking at this, trying to say, okay.

The president wants tax cuts. So does I.

The president wants borders, so do I.

I think the president wants us to repeal the entire Green New scam. I think the president wants us to get good reforms. Be careful.

Like handle Medicaid appropriately, and all of that, for our American citizens that depend on it.

But we haven't delivered. Because the Senate has a bunch of people in it, who don't want to deliver, and they are hiding behind the parliamentarian, and they're delivering the product that I didn't come to Washington, to sign up for, Glenn.

GLENN: All right. So let me ask you this. They're hiding behind the parliamentarian.

Is that -- I mean, they -- they say, there was a change in the bill, because of the Medicare paid to the illegals. And the parliamentarian said you have to keep it in there. Some arcane rule or whatever.

Couldn't the Senate Republicans just ignore that?

Is it fair -- what?

CHIP: They could overrule the parliamentarian. They could make a change, if they wanted to do so.

GLENN: Right.

CHIP: Now, some of these things take 60 votes. If they want to address this, they can address it.

But the real issue here is that behind the closed doors, what you know, is that there are senators, who don't want to make the reforms.

Don't want to make the changes. They're making their own policy choices. Based on what they want.

Right? You've got Lisa Murkowski right now. Instead of wanting to reform Medicaid, she wants to get a special carve-out for additional spending, for people in Alaska.

You've got, you know, Tillis. You've got others. They want us to go the wrong direction, when it comes to Medicaid reform.

And, Glenn. I've got to be honest. How many times have you and I been on the phone over the last decade, talking about shutdowns by discretionary spending. Like every two years.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

CHIP: Countless times. Every time we have one of those fights. The people of this town say, Chip, you need to shut up because the real problem is mandatory spending. Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid.

It's not fighting over all this stuff. You're wasting all our time.

I didn't think it was a waste of our time.

I didn't think we should be funding weaponized government.

I didn't think we should continue to jack up spending for the alphabet soup of regulations in America.

But I said, okay. Guys, here we are.

We are going to do this reconciliation package. We will reform Medicaid, right? We ended up fighting like cats and dogs to get the reforms, the work requirements we got out of the House. It was good. Not great.

The Senate, now they're working through it. And they are fighting every inch. And it got actually a little better in certain respects, thank to Rick Scott.

He's been fighting hard. Mike Lee, Ron Johnson. We've got a little bit more of what's called provider taxes. But overall, we're not meeting the moment.

We're not getting enough Medicaid reform.

We're getting watered down, somewhat on illegals. How about missed taxes, Glenn?

We passed a measure in the House, to tax money going from America, so people going here illegally back to their own country.

The Senate -- it's crazy!

GLENN: Why? Why? Why?

CHIP: Because they don't like the policies, Glenn. Because here's the thing, there are bankers. Banks. Who came here and said, guys, this would be really hard on us.

If we had to enforce this policy.

Money flowing from our banks and institutions.

Mexico.

And Columbia.

And places. We really need a carve out, so the banks won't be taxed by this, and then they will go.

It would be way too burdensome on the people who come here and they're working hard, and they want to spend money on their families. But you and I both have a heart for what people face. And want to say, hey, I get it. You've got an honest person here, who is following the law, who came here illegally. They want to send money back home to their country. They can still do that. They can still find a way to do that, but we're taxing. Instead of saying, no, we're not going to do it.

But the biggest thing at the end of the day. Deficits go up, and I didn't sign up for deficits to go up.

GLENN: So you're not going to vote for them?

You're not voting for this.

CHIP: I can't. I cannot vote for this as it's currently structured. If we can come to some agreement.

And, Glenn, this is important.

The president rightly wants us to find a way to get a bill up. I get that. And I want to deliver. For six months, I've been busting my butt.

I voted for a bill that came out of the house, that I didn't like. It wasn't good enough. But I thought it was an important step.

I worked to come up with a budget framework with Jerry Harrington and others, to figure out, how to get this done and get it out of the House.

I think we made progress. We did get Medicaid reforms that are good. We did get some tightening down on the green new scam, and others didn't want to do it.

But we are now fighting a Senate that's watering down important stuff.

And importantly, the way they tax to spend policies. Overall, I can't look at this any way objectively, without telling my voters, the people that sent me to Washington to represent them. That the deficits will go up.

Now, last point, the president and the administration will say, look, guys, don't worry about that. We'll make it up with tariffs, and we will pay higher economic growth. Well, two things.

Number one, on the economic growth front, we assumed growth in our bill, Glenn.

We assumed 2.6 percent growth.

Now, you might say, well, gosh, we need three or four. Yeah, but we have to do a ten-year budget. 2.6 percent growth is a lot higher than what we've been experiencing the last two decades on average.

We picked a sweet spot of 2.6 percent growth. It is true, that if we have 4 percent growth for a decade, we will have much more of it.

I hope that's true. You hope that's true.

And if it is true, then great. It's gravy, that will give us money to buy down the debt. And save money. And get the deficits down further.

But I can't budget to two and a half percent. Sitting at 2 percent growth

It would be irresponsible.

GLENN: So I'm with you, Chip. I'm with you. And I've said this for a long time -- the Republicans are going to lose. They are going to lose, and they're going to lose because you're just not delivering for the American people, what you promised you would.

Donald Trump seems to be.

You know, at least he is trying.

He's doing a lot of the things he promised he would do.

I don't see that happening with the Republicans.

And so, you know, I don't know what -- what the midterm is going to look like.

But I will tell you this. He has to have that tax cut passed.

He's got to have it.

If we don't get that tax cut. Everything the Republicans have been trying to do. Or the Republican voters have wanted.

It's over. It's over.

Because the economy will spiral out of control without that tax cut. Agree or disagree?

CHIP: So I agree we must deliver on the tax cut. And I believe we will. When push comes to shove, there's no way we will get to December, and not provide an extension of tax cuts, that were so important in 2017.

Now, I'll remind everybody, the corporate rates were made permanent already.

Right?

What we're talking about dealing with is the expiration of certain personal tax issues. Marginal rate. But also child tax credit. Also standard deduction, et cetera. Now, I'm not sure.

I've got different views, on different ones of those policies.

Overall, we want to ensure, this stays in the pockets of the American people.

We have to deliver on that.

I will tell you this, if we don't address the inflation tax.

If we don't address the extent to which people are fleeing the American bond markets.

Because we are so irresponsible.

Then we're going to be doing a disservice to our kids and grandkids who can't afford a house.

They can't afford a house because the mortgage rates are too high.

GLENN: They can't afford it now, Chip.

They can't afford it now.

CHIP: So I think what we need to do, is I'm prepared to go back to the drawing board today. I want to go home tomorrow, or the next day.
Let's just get busy. We've been working on it.

Let's tighten down some of the spending.
Let's tweak what we've been doing and get the tax policy done. Get it set. Let's go back to the House bill, for example, that we passed.

It was a good, solid bill.

And get the Senate to adopt it, and pass it.

Or make some modest changes. But we have to get rid of some of these ridiculous things. Like Medicaid for illegal aliens, like pork that's going to Alaska.

Like specific giveaways.

And, you know, get rid of those things.

Go back to the House bill.

Make sure the inflation act is getting terminated.

Deliver on the tax cuts. Deliver on the border.

Deliver for the president.

I'm prepared to do that. But I will not swallow a crappy bill because the Senate tries to jam me with it.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I don't know how it's unpopular to say, no. We're not giving illegals any Medicare.

We're not.

Do you remember -- who was it, when we were in Congress. Barack Obama talked about Obamacare. He said, you lie!

Joe Wilson, wasn't it?

And everybody had a cow. Well, look at what we're doing. Look at what we're doing.

Look at what we're giving illegals.

The answer is no.

No, no, no, no. And I don't understand how that is not so simple.

I don't understand any Republican that doesn't understand, the green new deal, no! No!

USAID. No!

DOGE. Cut it. Why can't they see what -- I mean -- there is -- I mean to tell you, Chip. I don't mean to take this out on you. You're one of the good guys. You're trying to do this.

We're in between a rock and a hard place.

The president has to have what the president needs. To get the economy going.

We wait until January. You're right on top of the midterms.

You have -- the president is not turning this economy around, fast enough.

Because he can't get anyone in Congress to do Jack crap on anything!

You need to cut the freaking spending. And the waste. And the garbage.

And I tell you, I am with Elon Musk 100 percent.

100 percent.

You are one of these weasel Republicans, who don't -- who just go along, and just be like, you know what, we're going to have another five or $6 trillion to our debt.

I'm done. I'm done.

And Elon has said, I will -- if it's the last thing I do. I will make sure that none of these people get reelected. That's not going to be good.

That's not going to be good. For the republic.

Let alone, the Republican parties.

But, you know what, I've had enough. I've had enough.

And I think the American people have too.

CHIP: Well, Glenn, I will tell you this, July 4th is obviously Friday, Independence Day. Two hundred forty-nine years ago, and we already celebrated. We celebrate their courage. We celebrate Lexington and Concord.

We celebrate all the things -- we celebrate the men that stormed the beaches in Normandy.

And we celebrate all of the great courage that our men in women in uniform have done to fight in this country. How can I say, no, sorry, I'll have to vote for this bill, because there will be some political pressure.

When I regale the boys at the Alamo, sitting there, taking bullets. Knowing they were going to die.

But ran into a wall of bullets in Normandy.

Look, we have to deliver.

We have no choice. We all agree on that.

I'm sure I'm going to get labeled, you know, a -- any number of things.

That I'm not delivering on the president's agenda, that I'm jamming up a bill. Look, and I get it.

And I won't get defensive about it. The president wants this bill. And he is right to want this bill.

The Congress has to deliver a bill worth sending them. And I'm prepared to stay here, until we do.

But I won't vote for a bill, because I'm told I have to. Because a bunch of losers who are swamp creatures, who want pork and giveaways. Who don't have the cojones to stand up and deliver for the American people. And to actually reduce spending, and not hide behind parliamentaries. Not hide behind tax cuts.

They want to hide behind a tax cut, to tell me at the border, to tell me, you have to vote for this bill. Don't worry about this spending.

No, kiss my ass.

I will stand up and fight for the border and the tax cuts and the spending cuts. We've got to do it!

STU: It was very reminiscent of Daniel Boone there for just a second. Or I'm sorry. Not -- Davey Crockett, not Daniel Boone.

So thank you for that. Chip, God bless. Have a great holiday. Stand -- stand firm in what you believe in.

And just keep the fight. I appreciate the attitude that you have towards the president.

Give the president what he needs. Fight for the president, what he's asking for.

But you got to fight the swamp at the same time. Have to. Have to. Thank you, Chip. Appreciate it.

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