RADIOJuly 25, 2025

RELEASE the Epstein Files … with a caveat

Glenn Beck wants EVERYTHING in the Epstein Files to be released … BUT with a caveat. Glenn warns that America will have massive problems if the files are released and people don’t actually READ the report. If we only listen to X posts and the media, we can be easily manipulated.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Somebody asked me. Might have been you, Stu. Said, why do you think they're putting up a stink about releasing the files?

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: I can guarantee you, that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files.

STU: You said that at the very beginning.

GLENN: Years ago.

STU: Even with that -- more recently when Elon came out with his tweet. And we all said, of course, he's in the files. He was friends with this guy for a long time, but before people knew.

GLENN: Right, and he broke up with him, if you will.

STU: Before his initial arrest.

GLENN: Right, before the initial arrest. And he broke up with him, because it's like, hey, you treat women like crap. Okay. So, yeah.

He is in the filing. I can almost guarantee it. So why wouldn't you want that out?

For the same reason he's saying, you know, there's a lot of people in here, whose names are going to be involved, who may not have done anything.
That's not just protecting him. You know what that is? That's a comment on us. Because here's my stance on this. The whole thing should be released.
Every bit of it should be released. However, there is a competing argument in my own mind that says, not responsible enough for that. What do I mean by that?

This system of our government is wholly inadequate for an immoral and non-religious society.

And I don't mean, well, our society has got to go to church.

I mean, you have to have the underpinnings of things like the Ten Commandments.

Don't lie!

Don't cheat. Don't steal.

Don't smear your neighbor. We don't do any of those things. Okay?

We can't even do ten simple laws. Okay?

And they're all good safety tips. I don't know occasion if I renamed all of these things.

If I didn't use the religious context, every American would say, yeah. Well, that's a good thing.

Hey. You shouldn't worship your car.

Yeah. That's a good thing. You know, you shouldn't -- you shouldn't look at the image of somebody, and go, that's -- that's who I serve.
That's my God. No! That is a bad thing.

Don't cheat on your spouse. Don't lie.

Honor your mom and dad. All of these things, we would all agree, we can't do that as a society! We can't even agree on eight of the ten!
So how are you going to remain free? Let me bring this back to the Epstein file.

All of this information should be public. It should be out there. There should be no secrets.

Unless it is in our national interests.

And I don't mean, well, it could go badly for the CIA.

Good!

Let it go badly for the CIA. If they did something wrong, or they were doing something nefarious. Or they were doing something that the American people just wouldn't like. I want that exposed.

Okay?

But are we responsible enough to have all of the information?

I contend, no!

That doesn't make me say. I'm still saying, release it all!

But I'm telling you, the consequences will be ugly.

STU: It could be a mess.

GLENN: A mess.

STU: That's okay. Probably.

Because we're talking about -- if there's information in there, that the American people need.

GLENN: I think we are approaching a place to where it's -- it's not just a mess.

And here's why I say that.

STU: What do you mean?

GLENN: So you get all this information. How is this information going to be used?

Of course, Donald Trump's name is in there.

Is Donald Trump -- did he -- was he messing around with young girls?

No. No.

STU: Is there even an accusation.

I mean, there's a lot of things they accused Donald Trump of.

GLENN: Not that.

STU: Is this even an accusation that he was interested in underage girls?

GLENN: No. No. No.

And all they're saying is, he's in the file.

Well, there will be a lot of people in the file. Okay?

A lot of people in the file.

And some of them might be guilty.

Some of them, you -- I worry, because I want to know their names. But I want to hear, why were you with him?

Oh, it was before you knew.

Oh, it was this or that. You were getting money as a scientist, for your thing. From him. Okay.

But it wasn't about underage girls. As a society, we will not read the Epstein report.

We won't.

STU: No. Of course not. Right?

We won't read it. It doesn't matter if it's ten pages! The vast majority will not read it. What they will do is they will go to Twitter and X. And they will look for what name is in there.

And somebody will say, Donald Trump. And you know what you know this means? He was diddling with little girls.

And that will just become their opinion, not based on fact, not based on anything.

Except, somebody who has ill will on anyone or is just as stupid as the rest of the public.

Yesterday, this -- last week, this file came out from Tulsi Gabbard. And what do you say this is, Stu?

One hundred fifty pages, maybe. One hundred pages?

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Okay. My staff read it. We read it. You know why?

Because you weren't going to read it. And my job is to make it easier for you to understand what is going on.

My job really is not to tell you, what is going on.

I'm -- my job is actually to try to give you perspective on why it's happening, and what it means.

But because nobody -- and I'm not dissing you. This is a very, well-read audience.

In many cases, more well-read on some things than we are.

But generally speaking, the American people don't read.

They don't read these reports.

This one came out yesterday, and what is this?

20 pages, maybe?

And this thing is unbelievable. Because there were only five copies of it.

This was the -- they categorized the highest level of top secret outside of a nuclear weapon in our codes.

Okay. This was in the most top -- this was like the knock list, at the CIA.

Five copies, all in one -- in one safe. Where the most confidential CIA stuff is kept.

And it was released yesterday.

And it's not 30 years old.

It's four!

Did you read it? Did anyone actually -- I contend, very few reporters, very few talking heads on cable TV even read these.

STU: Yeah. And, by the way, it's not an unreasonable expectation for a population to have a media that is going to inform them properly about very lengthy government documents.

GLENN: Correct. Correct.

But once you have seen that that media is not reliable.

And everybody knows that now.

You may not find me reliable.

But the person who doesn't find me reliable, also probably doesn't find CNN reliable.

They might go, well, they're a little better than he is.

But they -- they don't trust anybody.

And they shouldn't.

At this point, you shouldn't trust anybody.

Which means, you have to know it for yourself. So when you're looking at the Epstein files. You're looking at these files.

These files, everyone should care about. Because this shows. This -- it's not new. Some of it is!

But very little of it is new.

It's just authentication that what has been said, all these years, by people like me, is accurate!

And you wouldn't have fought about its accuracy, if it didn't matter.

But you fought -- he didn't know what he was talking about. That's a conspiracy theory. He has to be shut down. Get him off Facebook. Take him off Twitter.

He can't say these things. Why would you say that if it didn't matter? Now you not only that know those things are true, but you now see a pattern of behavior. It's like looking at one murder, and then another murder, and then another murder.

Okay. We've got three murderers, on the loose now.

And then all of a sudden, you realize, wait a minute. Not only did those murders happen, it was the same guy. Now you have a serial killer.

Is a serial killer more -- a higher priority than just one murderer?

Yeah.

Yeah. It is. Because they are -- they are killing people -- I don't know. Out of the love of it. Out of their distorted.

It's not a crime of passion. It becomes something really, really sick.

This is a serial killer.

You now have not just one offs. You see, this is a pattern.

This group has been doing this from the beginning. You know what I said, you know, if they can get away with this. They will keep doing it.

This shows, they got away with it, for so long.

By 2016. They just, they don't care anymore.

They don't care anymore.

But how many people are reading this?

What they'll do is they'll listen to people like me, or people like CNN, and they'll say, oh, well. I heard Jake Tapper talk about it.

It means nothing.

Well, now, Jake Tapper might not mean -- let me leave you with a better example. I really like Andy McCarthy.

I really like him.

I read his work.

STU: It's great.

GLENN: I believe -- I believe his opinion is valid. I don't think it's right.

But I think it's valid.

And I read his work. And I thought, okay.

Wait a minute. If Andy McCarthy is saying this. I really need to examine what he's saying. And see where I disagree with him.

And as I went in, I was prepared to change my mind, if I thought Andy was right.

Now, he might in the end, be right.

But I don't think so.

Because what he is saying is, a lot of this stuff is old news.

Yes, Andy, it is. But it's now a grand conspiracy. You have to look at the through-line.

You're not looking at the one-off events.

You're looking at two things.

One, it's now been verified at the highest sources in writing.

You have whistleblowers, at the time, writing saying, we can't do this.

We didn't have that information. You have on record now, Brennan saying, you don't know what I know. Well, what did you know? We have new information.

What new information?

Because none of it is quoted anywhere.

And he's never answered the question.

What new information?

Most importantly, you have the grand conspiracy line.

We are not going to save the country, unless we do our own homework. Then listen to people and say, let me start at the opposite ends. Let me start with Glenn Beck and CNN.

And let me see what both of them are saying. Okay.

I think they both agree on this one thing. So I know that's true. But I think Glenn is more right. Or CNN is more right on this.

And then you just keep narrowing it in. And all it does is not form your opinion. It helps verify for you what you think is right.

Or it changes your opinion, because you realize, I missed that.

I didn't understand that. So when we're looking at all of this stuff needs to be transparent. We need to know all of the information.

Yes, we do.

But we also are played, every single day by many times, the exact same actors, who do not have a good bone in their body.

They're trying to destroy us. They're trying to separate us and divide us.

And they have proven themselves to lie at any level, without thinking about you or the ramifications.

And we continue to listen to them, over and over and over again.

Shocking train video: Passengers wait while woman bleeds out

Surveillance footage of the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, NC, reveals that the other passengers on the train took a long time to help her. Glenn, Stu, and Jason debate whether they were right or wrong to do so.

Transcript

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GLENN: You know, I'm -- I'm torn on how I feel about the people on the train.

Because my first instinct is, they did nothing! They did nothing! Then my -- well, sit down and, you know -- you know, you're going to be judged. So be careful on judging others.

What would I have done? What would I want my wife to do in that situation?

STU: Yeah. Are those two different questions, by the way.

GLENN: Yeah, they are.

STU: I think they go far apart from each other. What would I want myself to do. I mean, it's tough to put yourself in a situation. It's very easy to watch a video on the internet and talk about your heroism. Everybody can do that very easily on Twitter. And everybody is.

You know, when you're in a vehicle that doesn't have an exit with a guy who just murdered somebody in front of you, and has a dripping blood off of a knife that's standing 10 feet away from you, 15 feet away from you.

There's probably a different standard there, that we should all kind of consider. And maybe give a little grace to what I saw at least was a woman, sitting across the -- the -- the aisle.

I think there is a difference there. But when you talk about that question. Those two questions are definitive.

You know, I know what I would want myself to do. I would hope I would act in a way that didn't completely embarrass myself afterward.

But I also think, when I'm thinking of my wife. My advice to my wife would not be to jump into the middle of that situation at all costs. She might do that anyway. She actually is a heck of a lot stronger than I am.

But she might do it anyway.

GLENN: How pathetic, but how true.

STU: Yes. But that would not be my advice to her.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Now, maybe once the guy has certainly -- is out of the area. And you don't think the moment you step into that situation. He will turn around and kill you too. Then, of course, obviously. Anything you can do to step in.

Not that there was much anyone on the train could do.

I mean, I don't think there was an outcome change, no matter what anyone on that train did.

Unfortunately.

But would I want her to step in?

Of course. If she felt she was safe, yes.

Think about, you said, your wife. Think about your daughter. Your daughter is on that train, just watching someone else getting murdered like that. Would you advise your daughter to jump into a situation like that?

That girl sitting across the aisle was somebody's daughter. I don't know, man.

JASON: I would. You know, as a dad, would I advise.

Hmm. No.

As a human being, would I hope that my daughter or my wife or that I would get up and at least comfort that woman while she's dying on the floor of a train?

Yeah.

I would hope that my daughter, my son, that I would -- and, you know, I have more confidence in my son or daughter or my wife doing something courageous more than I would.

But, you know, I think I have a more realistic picture of myself than anybody else.

And I'm not sure that -- I'm not sure what I would do in that situation. I know what I would hope I would do. But I also know what I fear I would do. But I would have hoped that I would have gotten up and at least tried to help her. You know, help her up off the floor. At least be there with her, as she's seeing her life, you know, spill out in under a minute.

And that's it other thing we have to keep in mind. This all happened so rapidly.

A minute is -- will seem like a very long period of time in that situation. But it's a very short period of time in real life.

STU: Yeah. You watch the video, Glenn. You know, I don't need the video to -- to change my -- my position on this.

But at his seem like there was a -- someone who did get there, eventually, to help, right? I saw someone seemingly trying to put pressure on her neck.

GLENN: Yeah. And tried to give her CPR.

STU: You know, no hope at that point. How long of a time period would you say that was?

Do you know off the top of your head?

GLENN: I don't know. I don't know. I know that we watched the video that I saw. I haven't seen past 30 seconds after she --

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: -- is down. And, you know, for 30 seconds nothing is happening. You know, that is -- that is not a very long period of time.

STU: Right.

GLENN: In reality.

STU: And especially, I saw the pace he was walking. He certainly can't be -- you know, he may have left the actual train car by 30 seconds to a minute. But he wasn't that far away. Like he was still in visual.

He could still turn around and look and see what's going on at that point. So certainly still a threat is my point. He has not, like, left the area. This is not that type of situation.

You know, I -- look, as you point out, I think if I could be super duper sexist for a moment here, sort of my dividing line might just be men and women.

You know, I don't know if it's that a -- you're not supposed to say that, I suppose these days. But, like, there is a difference there. If I'm a man, you know, I would be -- I would want my son to jump in on that, I suppose. I don't know if he could do anything about it. But you would expect at least a grown man to be able to go in there and do something about it. A woman, you know, I don't know.

Maybe I'm -- I hope --

GLENN: Here's the thing I -- here's the thing that I -- that causes me to say, no. You should have jumped in.

And that is, you know, you've already killed one person on the train. So you've proven that you're a killer. And anybody who would have screamed and got up and was with her, she's dying. She's dying. Get him. Get him.

Then the whole train is responsible for stopping that guy. You know. And if you don't stop him, after he's killed one person, if you're not all as members of that train, if you're not stopping him, you know, the person at the side of that girl would be the least likely to be killed. It would be the ones that are standing you up and trying to stop him from getting back to your daughter or your wife or you.

JASON: There was a -- speaking of men and women and their roles in this. There was a video circling social media yesterday. In Sweden. There was a group of officials up on a stage. And one of the main. I think it was health official woman collapses on stage. Completely passes out.

All the men kind of look away. Or I don't know if they're looking away. Or pretending that they didn't know what was going on. There was another woman standing directly behind the woman passed out.

Immediately springs into action. Jumps on top. Grabs her pant leg. Grabs her shoulder. Spins her over and starts providing care.

What did she have that the other guys did not? Or women?

She was a sheepdog. There is a -- this is my issue. And I completely agree with Stu. I completely agree with you. There's some people that do not respond this way. My issue is the proportion of sheepdogs versus people that don't really know how to act. That is diminishing in western society. And American society.

We see it all the time in these critical actions. I mean, circumstances.

There are men and women, and it's actually a meme. That fantasize about hoards of people coming to attack their home and family. And they sit there and say, I've got it. You guys go. I'm staying behind, while I smoke my cigarette and wait for the hoards to come, because I will sacrifice myself. There are men and women that fantasize of block my highway. Go ahead. Block my highway. I'm going to do something about it. They fantasize about someone holding up -- not a liquor store. A convenience store or something. Because they will step in and do something. My issue now is that proportion of sheepdogs in society is disappearing. Just on statistical fact, there should be one within that train car, and there were none.

STU: Yeah. I mean --

JASON: They did not respond.

STU: We see what happens when they do, with Daniel Penny. Our society tries to vilify them and crush their existence. Now, there weren't that many people on that train. Right?

At least on that car. At least it's limited. I only saw three or four people there, there may have been more. I agree with you, though. Like, you see what happens when we actually do have a really recent example of someone doing exactly what Jason wants and what I would want a guy to do. Especially a marine to step up and stop this from happening. And the man was dragged by our legal system to a position where he nearly had to spend the rest of his life in prison.

I mean, I -- it's insanity. Thankfully, they came to their senses on that one.

GLENN: Well, the difference between that one and this one though is that the guy was threatening. This one, he killed somebody.

STU: Yeah. Right. Well, but -- I think -- but it's the opposite way. The debate with Penny, was should he have recognize that had this person might have just been crazy and not done anything?

Maybe. He hadn't actually acted yet. He was just saying things.

GLENN: Yeah. Well --

STU: He didn't wind up stabbing someone. This is a situation where these people have already seen what this man will do to you, even when you don't do anything to try to stop him. So if this woman, who is, again, looks to be an average American woman.

Across the aisle. Steps in and tries to do something. This guy could easily turn around and just make another pile of dead bodies next to the one that already exists.

And, you know, whether that is an optimal solution for our society, I don't know that that's helpful.

In that situation.

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Max Lucado on Overcoming Grief in Dark Times | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 266

Disclaimer: This episode was filmed prior to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But Glenn believes Max's message is needed now more than ever.
The political world is divided, constantly at war with itself. In many ways, our own lives are not much different. Why do we constantly focus on the negative? Why are we in pain? Where is God amid our anxiety and fear? Why can’t we ever seem to change? Pastor Max Lucado has found the solution: Stop thinking like that! It may seem easier said than done, but Max joins Glenn Beck to unpack the three tools he describes in his new book, “Tame Your Thoughts,” that make it easy for us to reset the way we think back to God’s factory settings. In this much-needed conversation, Max and Glenn tackle everything from feeling doubt as a parent to facing unfair hardships to ... UFOs?! Plus, Max shares what he recently got tattooed on his arm.

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Are Demonic Forces to Blame for Charlie Kirk, Minnesota & Charlotte Killings?

This week has seen some of the most heinous actions in recent memory. Glenn has been discussing the growth of evil in our society, and with the assassination of civil rights leader Charlie Kirk, the recent transgender shooter who took the lives of two children at a Catholic school, and the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska, how can we make sense of all this evil? On today's Friday Exclusive, Glenn speaks with BlazeTV host of "Strange Encounters" Rick Burgess to discuss the demon-possessed transgender shooter and the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk. Rick breaks down the reality of demon possession and how individuals wind up possessed. Rick and Glenn also discuss the dangers of the grotesque things we see online and in movies, TV shows, and video games on a daily basis. Rick warns that when we allow our minds to be altered by substances like drugs or alcohol, it opens a door for the enemy to take control. A supernatural war is waging in our society, and it’s a Christian’s job to fight this war. Glenn and Rick remind Christians of what their first citizenship is.