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Rep. SLAMS State Dept. LIES during Afghanistan rescue efforts

Oklahoma's Rep. Markwayne Mullin flew to Afghanistan to personally help in the evacuation efforts when it became clear government was failing to rescue Americans and Afghan allies in danger from the Taliban. But, he tells Glenn, the State Department fought them EVERY step of the way: 'Not one time did the State Department help us.'

Media Claims Trump Wants a “BLOODBATH,” Gets DESTROYED by the Truth
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Media Claims Trump Wants a “BLOODBATH,” Gets DESTROYED by the Truth

The mainstream media had a field day, claiming that former president Donald Trump threatened a “bloodbath” if he isn’t re-elected. But of course, they took him completely out of context. Glenn discusses the real context and also rolls the tape on how many times the media has used the word “bloodbath.”

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GLENN: So I don't know about you, Stu. But I've been soaking in a bloodbath all weekend.

It's -- I can't tell you how many chickens I had to sacrifice to get the blood, enough for a bad for me. I mean, it's like a --it like a Taft.

A bathtub.

STU: That's a very nerdy joke. But I like it.

GLENN: Thank you. Thank you.

STU: Any more William Taft jokes you can break out. That's the radio program. It's always the right way to go. I like it.

GLENN: Well, Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame.

Did you hear how he expertly just tucked that Taft joke in. Not a lot of opportunities for those.

So, anyway, this weekend, apparently, according to the mainstream media, and a lot of them, they said that Donald Trump was calling for a bloodbath, if he didn't win.

Listen, cut three. Cut three.

VOICE: But as politico.com reports tonight on the, quote, bloodbath at the RNC.

VOICE: Headlines calling it a, quote, bloodbath.

VOICE: Bloodbath. Not only will it be a bloodbath. But after they leave New Hampshire, it's a bloodbath on her home turf. That's really tough.

VOICE: Trump has left a lot of corpses in his wake. I mean, we haven't counted the bodies, as part of the, quote, MAGA drive to take over Maricopa County.

And the headline refers to it as an impending bloodbath.

VOICE: Problem is Charles Blow has a new piece for the New York Times, entitled A Biden Bloodbath?

VOICE: 2018 midterms. You can bet that they 100 percent are fearing a slaughter. In fact, the word bloodbath and massacre come up frequently.

VOICE: The Republican Party will be destroyed. It's going to be a bloodbath.

VOICE: There's going to be a bloodbath one way or the other.

VOICE: Bloodbath.

VOICE: Bloodbath with Bernie Sanders.

VOICE: It's been a bloodbath.

VOICE: There's shaping up to be a bloodbath.

VOICE: Bloodbath in next year's crucial mid-terms?

VOICE: Off-year elections are often a bloodbath.

GLENN: Wait a minute.

VOICE: This week's bloodbath for Democrats.

VOICE: A bloodbath at the ballot box.

VOICE: There could be a Republican bloodbath.

VOICE: We'll talk about the bloodbath.

VOICE: There's a bloodbath. I have to talk about you and --

VOICE: It's going to be a bloodbath all day long.

VOICE: Is in for a bloodbath.

VOICE: Has it been a bloodbath on the way, Don?

VOICE: Donald Trump, bloodbath.

VOICE: Be a bloodbath.

VOICE: Predicted to be a bloodbath.

VOICE: May not be the bloodbath.

VOICE: It will be a bloodbath.

VOICE: More of a bloodbath.

VOICE: It's going to be a bloodbath in November.

VOICE: Possible Biden bloodbath this November.

VOICE: The bloodbath on Wall Street.

VOICE: There's going to be a bloodbath.

VOICE: In Alabama, into a bloodbath.

VOICE: Obviously, there's a bloodbath.

VOICE: It was a bloodbath. We're down 800 points.

VOICE: This bloodbath in the Department of Homeland Security.

VOICE: And it's a bloodbath today.

VOICE: There was going to be this bloodbath.

VOICE: Election bloodbath.

VOICE: There could be a bloodbath for --

VOICE: Bloodbath possibly.

VOICE: Bloodbath that went through with the attorney general.

VOICE: A bloodbath --

GLENN: Stop. I have to get out of this tub. I have to get out of this tub. There's just too much bloodbath. Now, this is the media. This is the media saying, using the word bloodbath.

Now, when you say it's going to be a bloodbath, Stu, what does that usually mean? What does that mean?

STU: Usually, it means something, a blowout. A defeat.

GLENN: A blowout?

STU: In a notable way with a large margin --

GLENN: What if you use the words, what if you use the word like Van Jones did, a slaughter and a bloodbath?

STU: It would also mean --

GLENN: It will be a slaughter and a bloodbath.

STU: That's an interesting question. That does change things, but not much.

Basically, it means you get a blowout. A defeat by a large margin.

Everybody knows what it means. And everybody knew what it meant, until this weekend, apparently.

GLENN: I don't know. I don't know if that's entirely true.

The -- the media, they heard Donald Trump. And here's ABC.

Cut ten. Or cut two. Whichever one you can --

VOICE: And former President Trump's campaign now on the defensive after his fiery rhetoric at a rally in Dayton, Ohio, on Saturday night. Trump warning while discussing the economy, that there would be a, quote, bloodbath, if he's not reelected in November. This after the former president kicked off the event by paying tribute to those who attacked the US Capitol on January 6th.

President Biden's campaign swiftly denouncing those comments as threats of political violence.

GLENN: Okay. Stop for a second. Stop for a second. Stu, can you -- can you take this -- can we take this? Play this again. And I want to take it step by step. Because this sounds like something entirely different than what everyone in the media has said, themselves, over and over and over again.

Right?

About a bloodbath.

Let's take this apart. Because this sounds very dangerous. And very different.

Go ahead. Play it from the beginning.

VOICE: And former president Trump's campaign, now on the defensive after his fiery rhetoric at a rally in Dayton, Ohio, on Saturday night. Trump warping while discussing the economy that there would be a, quote, bloodbath, if he's not reelected in November.

GLENN: Stop. Holy cow. Holy cow, Stu. He's on the defensive now, because he said something that maybe he shouldn't have said. So he's on the defensive, and his fiery rhetoric, is saying here from the stage, that if he's not elected, there will be a bloodbath. Wow. See, because it's -- if you're elected, in a bloodbath. That means that you would, of course, what?

You would slaughter them. You would -- not literally, as we've learned from the media. But a bloodbath would be something that you would just -- you would -- you would either win or lose at a great, great number.

But if he's elected, or if he's not elected, and then there's a bloodbath, that's -- right? That's different, Stu.

STU: It's really not. He's talking, of course, about the economic competition specifically as it's related to China. And automobiles.

GLENN: No. No. No.

No. You're not.

No. You don't understand.

STU: I don't.

GLENN: He's elected. If he's not elected, there will be a bloodbath.

That's what she said. Now, let's listen on.

VOICE: After the former president kicked off the event by paying tribute to those who attacked the US Capitol on January 6th. President Biden's campaign.

GLENN: Holy -- stop for a second.

Holy cow. Now I think you see the connection. He said, if he's not elected, there will be a bloodbath, in the same speech within where he opened up, praising those crazy people, from January 6th.


STU: Wow. Now I've been turned around. Yeah. This is rhetoric.

GLENN: Right. He was talking about the dangerous people of January 6th. And then somehow or another, he went right into bloodbath. If he's not elected.

STU: You said, right into. He went right into.

GLENN: Well, pretty close.

PAT: Well, there were throw ellipses. Anyway, go ahead. Listen to the rest was the report here.

VOICE: Swiftly announcing those comments as threats of political violence.

GLENN: Stop. There you go. There you go.

So the president immediately sprung it. No. It wasn't. It wasn't, Stu. It wasn't five ellipses. It was three. And the president knows. Because the president immediately denounced those words as -- as violent rhetoric. Okay?

So what more do you need from this story?

STU: I mean, I -- I don't know. Maybe the context?

Would it be too much too to ask to sea the context of the comments. Like, maybe the lines proceeding it?

GLENN: It's not going to change anything. But here's cut 18.

TRUMP: China now is building a couple of massive plants where they're going to build the cars in Mexico. And they think they will sell those cars into the United States, with no tax at the border. Let me tell you something, to China, if you are listening, President Xi -- you and I are friends, but he understands we had a deal. Those big, monster car manufacturing plants that you're building in Mexico right now, and you think you're going to get that, you're going to not hire Americans, and you're going to sell the cars to us, no, we're going to put a 100 percent tariff on every single car that comes across, and you're not going to be able to sell those.

If I get elected. Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole -- that's going to be the least of it. It will be a bloodbath for the country. That will be the least of it. But they're not going to sell those cars. They're building massive factories.

GLENN: So wait a minute. I'm trying to figure that out. So China is building cars. And he says he will put a tariff on. If he's elected. If he's not elected, then somehow or another, there will be political violence everywhere. And his people will do a January 6th on the whole country.

And then he says, and they're not going to sell those cars. You know, Joe Biden is right when he came out this weekend, when he says, he's not fit to be president. He's not making any sense there, Stu, what does the political violence have to do with China and the sales of cars?

STU: You know, it's interesting, that wouldn't make any sense at all.

If attorney just convert back and forth between those things without introducing the forever does the topic whatsoever.

You think maybe, and this is the way human speech works suspect when you introduce a topic, and then comment after that topic, without introducing a new topic. People generally think, that the statements you've made relate to the previous topic that has been discussed. But when you delete.

GLENN: But that's not how human nice mustaches works.

STU: See, that's what you did just there. Is normal. I think you just said nice mustaches. See, that's strange. Normally, the way people do is they string multiple sentences together on the same topic, unless, they specifically introduce a new topic. And if you kind of go by this old-school analysis, what you think is maybe he's talking about an economic bloodbath, if China is allowed to import cars with the penalties not associated.

GLENN: That seems entirely Campbell soups inconceivable.

STU: Again, Campbell's soup. What you're doing is not normal.

GLENN: Well, all I know is that's the way they teach it in journalism school.

Now, in other news, when we come back, I'm going to tell you all about how the administration, is putting together a cute little effort through USA ID. To make sure that you aren't given false or misleading information.

Because they say, during this election, some people, will try to give you mis or mal or disinformation, and they need to be there to protect you from that.

Otherwise, it could be a bloodbath. And I'm soaking in one right now.

Well, that, and -- well, cream of chicken soup.

This “MIND-BOGGLING” Attack on Freelancing Has Mike Rowe Sounding the Alarm
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This “MIND-BOGGLING” Attack on Freelancing Has Mike Rowe Sounding the Alarm

Have you heard of the Corporate Transparency Act? How about the new gig economy guidelines that the Department of Labor just set? Because if you’re a gig worker, freelancer, or small business owner, your career could be in jeopardy. “Dirty Jobs” host and executive producer Mike Rowe joins The Glenn Beck Program to sound the alarm: “You want to set your own schedule? Forget it!” Mike and Glenn discuss how these new rules could affect 70 million Americans. Plus, they also debate whether our college system is beneficial, harmful, or unnecessary.

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GLENN: Friend of the program, Mr. Mike Rowe. How are you?

MIKE: First of all, with regard to your sponsors. Excellent choices. I love this foundation.

And at the risk of just shameless pluggery and wanton capitalism, this is an American Giant share.

STU: Oh, wow.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. They have that shirt. I have that shirt.

MIKE: I think you wore it last time I was here. And I thought, what are the odds/but you know Byerd (phonetic), he's a friend of mine.

GLENN: I love him.

MIKE: And I've had him on my podcast. And he's featured in a new book that you'll love. If you haven't seen it, it's called flannel. And it's all about what it really takes to make this.

GLENN: Shockingly difficult.

MIKE: It is amazing, brother.

I mean, I know you know that. You gave me a shirt, ten, 11 years ago.

When you were doing -- what was it? Seventeen.

GLENN: 1791.

MIKE: I still have it.

It was like a canvas work shirt. Ever since then, man. I have been obsessed with trying to better understand the drama and the trauma of getting textile manufacturing back in this country. It's mind-boggling.

GLENN: If companies like Levi's would do 5 percent of their -- of their manufacturing here in America, America would change. It would change.

MIKE: For sure.

GLENN: No interest in it at all.

MIKE: When you really start to peel back the layers. I don't know if this is on your agenda to talk about.

It is -- I just did a whole thing on the toothpick.

Like the business. We used to be the toothpick Capitol of the world.

GLENN: We're very proud of it.

MIKE: A giant industry up in Maine. White birch.

I mean, there's -- the book on it is amazing.

And when you slowly see the way, that we basically give up on toothpicks.

You start to understand the way we gave up on textiles. And then you start asking questions, like, well, what hope does Detroit really have?

Like, if we can't get the splinter right. If we can't get the shirt right, right?

So there are no small things.

Anyway, what American Giant is doing, I think it matters. Because they're 13 years at it now. Right?

So good for you.

GLENN: I just -- I know. I love them. I love them.

So, Mike, let's just talk about the state of the world.

Because we are being boxed. If you are a small business guy, you have under 20 employees.

You now have a transparency act, where you'll spend two years in jail.

If you don't tell the federal government the Treasury crimes division, everything that they want to know.

I don't know how much that's going to cost the small businessman. And just time alone.

Plus, you have the Pro Act, which has now just been done with the Department of Labor. We don't vote on anything anymore, it's just the new guide lines.

MIKE: Yes, yes. New guidelines.

GLENN: What is that going to do -- when we think gig economy, we think, you know, Uber drivers, et cetera.

No. No. Truckers alone. Will we have groceries at our store?

MIKE: 50,000 in California alone. 50,000. I had a guy on my podcast, called Tom Otem (phonetic), who is one of these truckers. And he's been written about in the press, and I was just so interested in his story.

In fact, I interviewed him, while he was in his truck, driving across the fruited plain.

You know, he pulled over, and we had this amazing conversation. But people, I like to talk about it in terms of unintended consequences.

But I realize now, that I might be giving too much credit.

GLENN: Way too much credit.

MIKE: Right?

But I'm trying to stay in whatever lane is left to me.

But when I first say the --

GLENN: I'll be taking that lane away from you soon.

MIKE: It's getting narrow. It's getting narrow.

GLENN: Yeah. Very narrow.

MIKE: When I first saw this thing rear its ugly head.

To your point, it aimed toward the gig competent, and Silicon Valley, mostly Uber and Lyft.

And then it just grew and grew and grew. Graphic artists. Writers. Cinematographers.

Dancers. So many people.

And I'm like, how many are, actually, going to be impacted.

And then the question was, how many people are, actually, freelancing right now?

And the answer is north of 70 million in the whole country.

And so what the drafters of AB5 asked us to believe, initially, was that huge numbers of workers were being shamelessly victimized by greedy and rapacious capitalists, who should have hired them as employees.

And therefore, opened the door to benefits and so forth.

Now, did that ever happen?

Yeah. I suspect.

It's a big country. And there's exceptions to every rule.

But the number of people who were adversely affected, prior to this, versus the number of people, who have now lost the freedom to work, the way they want, is mind-boggling.

And it happened in California, of course.

And to your point. It's happened. And it's happening right now.

And when people realize what this means, you know, you want to set your own schedule? Forget it. You want to eat what you kill? Forget it.

We don't want to think that way anymore.

Because that person, might fail. And if that person fails. Well, then the narrative goes, we just can't tolerate that.

GLENN: I'm sure you've been to Buckingham Palace, and Windsor castle.

And I've been there for the first time.

And the new king has been in the castle.

And he has his whole wing by himself.

And he lands this giant helicopter, right there in his backyard.

And I've never been. Like, I've been to the American castles.

MIKE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: I have never had a problem with it. Never. I walked through that castle, and it pissed me off the entire time. Because I thought, there is no one in this country, that could ever build this, except the one who has cornered the market, you know.

MIKE: Right.

GLENN: There's no opportunity. None!

To actually become something, because the government has you so pigeonholed, and people just accept it.

And I don't want to be like that. I don't want to live in that kind of country. If there's no risk, there's no reward.

MIKE: Well, there's the four-letter word.

Risk, and maybe debt, the only four letter words, right now, that I think are truly for sale.

You know, we have to have honest questions about both of those things.

The willingness to accept risk, is the fundamental bedrock of freelancing.

STU: Right. And not everybody is willing to take that risk. Some people just want a stable job.

MIKE: And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

GLENN: Nothing wrong with that.

MIKE: It's so similar -- I think the reason why this has become such an issue for me, is because it translates perfectly, into a four-year education, versus a trade school.

This idea, that we have to put our thumb on the scale. This idea, that one has to be elevated at the expense of the other, is precisely what's informing the Pro Act.

We're not saying that it's -- that it's good to be an employee. We're saying, it's so good, that if you don't do that.

Then you're doomed. You're engaging in a level of behavior, that's so risky, you're actually posing some sort of existential threat, not just to yourself, but to your family, to your neighbor, and so forth.

So it's -- it's amazing how we can't simply put all the options on the table. And let the grownups decide, what fits best.

GLENN: I have to tell you, even in today's world, where universities are taking our children. And molding them into the exact opposite.

Woodrow Wilson said, the job of a university, is to make a man, the most unlike, his father as possible.

Okay?

That was his goal. And that's really kind of the goal now, I think, in many places.

And so many people, will say, because I've got two teenagers.

Are they going to go to college?

No. Probably not.

One of them, maybe.

The other one, trade school, maybe.

Don't know. Don't know. It will be up to them.

And what is the value of a big expensive 250 thousands of individuals dollar education, if you're not going to use it.

If you don't have something, if you're just like, well, I think I'm going to do this.

A, the world is changing so fast. We don't know what jobs are going to be there.

MIKE: I worry. Look, I'm the product of a liberal arts education. I got one. Is served me well. I'm glad I got one.

Did it lead directly to my chosen field?

No. It did not, but it comes in handy, every single day. And mine consists of two years of community college, and another two years at university.

When I finished at '84, the whole thing cost $12,200. All of it.

Today, same school, same course loads. Ninety-two grand.

Now, nothing in the history of this country, has increased faster than the cost of a four-year degree.

GLENN: Bitcoin. Bitcoin.

MIKE: Well, Bitcoin. Or, but that's fallen and headed back. Right? But, I mean, really, if you look at health care, you look at real estate, if you look at food, if you look at energy, the big four -- those things have all been eclipsed by the cost of a four-year degree.

Still, we can't help ourselves. Still, we tell this whole generation, if you don't get one, we're descried.

And that's criminal. It's a shame, because my liberal arts education right now is on this thing.

We have all of it. I have access to 98 percent of the known information right now. For free.

Okay?

But still -- still, we charge. During lockdowns.

Columbia raised their rates.

NYU raised their rates.

And we still paid it, right?

Look, it's easy to look at the Ivy League, especially now.

And point to all sorts of embarrassments.

GLENN: Yeah.

MIKE: But it's not even about that. It's just this bigger thing that is happening. Where a whole chunk of our workforce is tied to a whole chunk of our education system, that has become the proximate cause of derision.

GLENN: I said to my son, where did you learn that?

He said, oh.

I got a course on MIT. Online.

Oh, okay.

Yeah. I mean, you have the opportunity, unlike any human has had. And yet, it's a bad thing. I want to talk a little bit about what you're doing with Mike Rowe Works here in just a second.

So your big push for a long time is you can go to college. But you don't need to go to college.

And you've been, you know, it started with dirty jobs.

Now, you are -- I mean, your -- your foundation has raised a ton of money. How many people are you putting through college?

MIKE: So far, we have close to 2,000 who we have helped master a skill that is in demand.

Mike Rowe Works began really just as a PR campaign in 2008. Dirty Jobs was at its absolute height. The whole country seemed to be unemployed. But, you know, everywhere we went, we saw these help wanted signs. So it seemed pretty clear, there was some other narrative going on. And this idea, that you could fix unemployment by simply creating more jobs.

Was, actually, a canard.

You know, today we have close to 10 million open jobs.

We've got win $.7 trillion in student loans.

And we're still sending the same basic message that we always have.

This path is the best. Everything else will lead to some sort of vocational consolidation prize. That PR campaign morphed into a trade resource center.

And now we're a scholarship fund. We've raised about $9 million, giving it out.

GLENN: You're doing another million this year, aren't you?

MIKE: Yeah. Right now, as we speak, yeah, MikeRoweWorks.org. If anybody is listening with a kid or a grandkid or you yourself want to learn a skill that's in demand. We can help, and we have helped.

But it's really a means to an end, Glenn. The scholarship program in and of itself is great.

But what it's done for me, is it's given me a chance to circle back and talk to people, who five, six years ago, got a welding certificate with our help. Or a plumbing.

And when you ask them the question today, how is it going?

You get amazing answers. Like, now, some of them are still plumbing. They're in a strong union.

GLENN: Hang on just a second.

Still plumbing.

You know what plumbers make?

You do. Plumbers make a really good living if you bust their ass. They make a really good living.

MIKE: And if you're back to that freelance model we were talking about, you can work as much as you want. You can set your own schedule.

And you are busy. I know a lot of guys, both electric, plumbing, heating and air-conditioning. You can basically work anywhere in the country right now.

GLENN: I know. And I have to tell you, I had some. I was building a house. I had the plumbers there. I was talking to them.

The guy is like, I can't get anyone to help me. I'm aging out soon. I don't have to do this.

He said, I'm trying to get all the kids in my family. Hello. Good living here.

MIKE: Here's the math. For every trades people who will retire this year, two will replace them.

That's been happening for 15 years. Now you know where this is going. Right?

GLENN: Yeah.

MIKE: In fact, we're here right now. It's happening right now. So what I'm trying to do with my little slice of the internet is to make sure that I can tell the stories of the people that I just described.

Because, I mean, I can tell a decent story. But I'm not persuasive to a 25-year-old or a 20-year-old. They need to see somebody who looks like them, and talks like them. Who is living debt-free. And making 150 grand a year.

And I have a long list of those people. And they are very persuasive.

So, you know, going back to your first question. You know, how do I feel about the country? What do I think needs to happen?

I have a list of things. For me, somewhere near the top, is a persuasive campaign.

And that's not even the right word. But we need persuasive voices, talking in a credible way, about the value of all forms of education.

And the absolute criticality, of not ignoring the part of our workforce, that keeps these lights on.

Because it's only a matter of national security.

GLENN: Security.

MIKE: It really is, man. And here's the good things. And I'm not sure it's good. Sometimes things need to go splat. We talked about this before.

So rather than having a conversation about, okay. This company is trying to hire skilled tradespeople and they can't. And these people over here don't have a skill. We should get them together.

Yeah. Yeah, that's happening.

But now the real conversation is, how long do you, Glenn, want to wait for a plumber?

How long does Stu want to wait for an electrician when the lights aren't coming on?

GLENN: Yeah. There's a Simpsons on this very thing.

MIKE: There's a Simpsons on everything, and a South Park too!

GLENN: There is. There is.

Okay. Where do people go if they want to find out more about the scholarships?

MIKE: MikeRoweWorks.org.

We're always open. We will be taking applications through the middle of April.

We're giving away a million bucks in this trench, and we'll probably do it later this year.

You know, baby steps, man. You have to push the boulder up the hill.

GLENN: Mike Rowe, always pushing the boulder up the hill. Thank you.

MIKE: Any time, Glenn.

Is Too Much Therapy Hurting Our Kids? | Abigail Shrier | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 213
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Is Too Much Therapy Hurting Our Kids? | Abigail Shrier | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 213

“There are no quirky people in the next generation, they all just have a diagnosis,” says researcher and best-selling author Abigail Shrier. Her book, Bad Therapy: Why The Kids Aren’t Growing Up, pulls back the curtain on the therapeutic model that’s infecting every aspect of our kids' lives. From the CDC spreading a "suicide contagion" to America’s youth through “diabolical mental health surveys," to the “Social Emotional Learning” curriculums invading America’s classrooms, it’s clear that it's time to tell the expert class to leave our kids alone. In this episode of The Glenn Beck Podcast, Glenn and Abigail discuss how a “tyranny of feelings” is making our kids weak. The “climate hysteria” on the left is undeniably fueling Gen Z’s fear of growing up, but Abigail argues that there is a growing nihilism on the left and right that is “turning people against marriage and family.” In the end, Abigail offers a message of hope for parents: you don’t need all these “mental health experts.” The best person to raise your child is you.

How the Government’s “ORWELLIAN” Social Media Censorship Campaign Could Soon be DEFEATED
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How the Government’s “ORWELLIAN” Social Media Censorship Campaign Could Soon be DEFEATED

On Monday, the Supreme Court will hear the case Murthy v. Missouri (formerly Missouri v. Biden), which could decide the fate of the federal government’s massive campaign to force social media companies into censoring Americans. “It’s the most important free speech case in the country,” Sen. Eric Schmitt (R-MO) tells Glenn. Sen. Schmitt, who filed the case while he was Attorney General of Missouri, describes the “Orwellian” things this lawsuit has uncovered: “The full power of the federal government was being used to silence Americans.” But will this be enough to stop our power-out-of-control government?

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GLENN: Okay. Give me -- give me some good news, will you?

ERIC: Well, I will. So Monday, Missouri versus Biden is being argued at the Supreme Court.

And it is this -- we've talked about before. It's the most important free speech case in the history of the country.

Certainly in a generation. Because it deals with the federal government, and its vast censorship enterprise, coercing, colluding, cajoling these social media giants to censor speech. And what the judge found in the lower court, when I filed it, when I was attorney general in Missouri.

What the judge found at the lower court, was that this was almost exclusively conservatives being censored. It reeks of viewpoint discrimination, which violates the First Amendment.

And it was Orwellian. What was uncovered, Glenn. Was tens of thousands of emails and text messages from hiring government officials, to social media giants, saying, take it down.

Or we will launch an investigation. Or we will sue you under anti-trust -- I mean, really, really, the full power of the federal government was to suppress defense, to silence Americans.

So that's been shown in the case. So that now has been appealed by the government.

They want to continue to censor people, and the Supreme Court will hear arguments on that on Monday.

And how do you think it will go?


KEN: I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful.

I just think, the case, a lot of it will come down to, what is the government, actually, doing. And were they, in fact, coercing?

Right? Were they using the power of the federal government to get these social media giants, to do the things that they can't legally do themselves?

What makes this case unique is, typically, social media companies are sued by people who are then de-platformed, or their posts have been taken down.

And those go to the Northern District of California, and they're never seen again.

But what's unique in our case, is that we've sued the federal government, themselves.

In the -- and the actors like Jen Psaki and Anthony Psaki.

Anthony Fauci's deposition, to Elvis Chan's deposition, who was, of course, the FBI agent in charge.

Who was pre-bunking the Hunter Biden story, calling a Russian disinformation a hack and leak operation.

Even though, they had the laptop already. They are pre-bunking this you know, getting ready for 2020.

The COVID -- the -- the efficacy of mass.

You know, they were suppressing that speech.

Vaccine issues. Origins of COVID. Where they were shutting anybody down, that were talking about this, coming from the lab in Wuhan. So all that is uncovered in this law.

And if it wasn't for this lawsuit, Glenn, and then later, Elon Musk buying Twitter with the Twitter files.

And then later, some of the Congressional hearings, this stuff would still be in the dark.
You know, it would still be a conspiracy theory. But it was happening. You know, we referred to it in the lawsuit, is a vast censorship enterprise.

The number of agencies and people involved here, is breathtaking.

And the -- you know, sometimes willing behavior of social media companies to comply and de-platform and censor people. But in some instances, they didn't want to, actually, do it. And they changed their rules.

GLENN: Right. That's what I wanted to ask you about.

How much of this do you think this is willing? And how much of it was fear of the government?

ERIC: Both. So, yeah.

I mean, these social media platforms, typically were very aligned with the left.

GLENN: Right.

ERIC: I think in many instances, Facebook, for example, after 2016, and Donald Trump won, they made it clear, publicly. They were never going to let that happen again.

Right, they were never going to let that happen again.

So I think some of this was overtly political on their part. And they were willing participants. But there are -- there are documents, to uncover. Where they were pushing back.

It was not -- it didn't violate their length of service.

As one judge said in the previous argument. That's a nice social media company you have there, right?

It would be a shame if something happens to us, almost like a mothball, coming from the government.

GLENN: Oh, yeah, that is.

KEN: So this is, again, the -- the -- all the power that the federal government has, exerting that on these social media companies. To do what they can't legally do themselves.

Which is to censor.

So this case, it's hard -- for me, as somebody who believes deeply in the right to free speech. And what that means for a country. And freedom.

This is, in my view, one of the most important cases. In general, the courts heard in a very, very long time. But certainly, as it relates to the First Amendment. That's the most important.

Because we're dealing with the virtual town square now, Glenn.

GLENN: How is this going to affect the -- the new systems that they're putting in, for mis and disinformation? And the governments, you know, work with Five Eyes and with social media and the rest of the media.

Where they are just training them. And guiding them through mis and disinformation.

Will this case have anything to do with that? Because that's upon us, right now.

ERIC: Absolutely.

And so that is the intention of this, to bust that up. Because there are agencies like CISA that most people have never heard of.

GLENN: Right. Right.

ERIC: But, yeah, was very involved, Glenn.

GLENN: Explain what -- explain to the audience, what CISA is.

ERIC: It's basically the agency that was created, not that long ago. The deal was sort of cyber security. Okay?

GLENN: Right.

ERIC: And what it found itself doing. In -- you know, during COVID. In particular.

Was under the guise of disinformation and misinformation, as you clearly articulate, that's -- look, that is -- that's a ploy, by one of the tyrants to control speech.

GLENN: Yes.

ERIC: The truth of the matter is, you get to say your opinion. Even if someone else thinks it's wrong.

The government doesn't get to shut that down. The government doesn't get to tell you, what you can say and what you can hear.

It's up to the individual, how they want to move forward.

And as they analyze facts, and what their decisions are. Right?

It was sort of like with the mandates. With mask mandates.

People can make their own decisions. They can judge if this is a good thing or not for their families. Same with the vaccine.

So all of this was about command and control, for these sprawling agencies. The other thing that was exposed in this too, Glenn. Is there were universities. University of Washington, Stanford were involved with helping, you know, sort of determine what the disinformation. And misinformation was.

GLENN: Right.

KEN: So, again, they're outsourcing this to their sort of web of allies. To censor Americans.

And this case would prevent that. This case, if the court rules the right way, and I hope that they do. It would essentially, it would be an injunction on all these agencies from engaging in that kind of activity.

It would be a huge win. Now, no matter what happens, the case, of course, stands for exposing all of this.

But the remedy that hopefully will play out. Is preventing this.

But as we talked about before, I've got legislation, in the Senate. That would empower individuals, to sue individual government actors. If they -- if they're right to be --

GLENN: I would --

ERIC: It would -- you can then sue. Yeah, it would. Because in stead of the AG and the state suing, you would have an army of citizens, being able to stand up for their First Amendment rights.

GLENN: You know, the Treasury, I think in cooperation -- I would have to look this up.
I think it was the World Bank. I don't know. Some world organization, got together and ran a -- kind of a war game with the central banks around the world.

And one of the things that came out of that was, we have got to shut down voices.

And this -- this is an exact quote. We have to shut down voices, that disagree, in the case of an emergency. A financial emergency.

That disagree with the actions of the central banks. Even if they are correct, because they could further the collapse of the system.

And I've been saying on the air, for a while now. I know I'm not going to agree with the -- with the global central banks on whatever it is they're planning to do.

The people who created the problem, I don't want designing a new system or anything else. And that snuffs out freedom of speech, quickly. Quickly.

ERIC: It does. It does. And what I think you're seeing play out in realtime, is the -- the broad diffusion of information, which is good.

That's good. Is the democratization of how people get information. You're sort of on the front lines of all this, a long time ago.

What they really fear is that individuals will then take different inputs and make up their own minds.

Free networks, that tell you everything they want you to hear.

And, again, I just think that we ought to be unafraid, I think, as conservatives, to talk about.

This is about -- this is before B freedom. This is about liberty. This is about making up your own mind. And they know how powerful that idea is.

They absolutely -- so what's the game plan?

You saw it play out in COVID. Which is create a crisis. Have a -- in other words, real or manufactured, right?

GLENN: Yep.

KEN: And then you consolidate power. You fearmonger. You other, the othering of those who are dissenting.

I mean, think about it.

Go back in time just a little bit. They were -- in Australia, which we thought was kind of like us, but with cute apples. They had camps.

You know, they have camps!

People were being arrested in parks, for not wearing masks. I mean, we can't memory hole all this stuff.

That is a glimpse of the kind of world that some of these folks want to live in, if you disagree with the regime. And we have to fight that with everything we have, to make sure that doesn't happen.

And also, it depends on us, defending somebody else's rights to say something that we disagree with.

That's their hallmark of it.

They want to bulldoze all of that, Glenn. To have a regime there, and anybody that stands in the way is othered, marginalized, called all sorts of names, lose their jobs, de-platformed.

I mean, that is -- so this whole lecture we get from Joe Biden, on threats to democracy.

We have seen the threats. We have seen the threats. And it is Joe Biden's administration which is censorship enterprise, and trying to throw political opponents in jail.

So I think people are waking up to this. And I think we just have to stand up to this.

GLENN: Good. Thank you, Eric. I appreciate it.

We'll be watching Monday. Maybe you'll come back Monday or Tuesday. And tell us highway it went.

And -- and dissect the arguments, back and forth, between the two.

Thank you, Eric. Appreciate it.

Senator Eric Schmitt, from Missouri.