RADIODecember 22, 2023

Did REPUBLICANS just vote to 'THROW AWAY the 4th Amendment'?!

The House of Representatives recently voted FOR an extension of FISA Section 702, which allows for the warrantless surveillance of American citizens in certain cases. But this wasn't a Democratic effort. 147 Republicans voted for it along with most of the Democrats. Glenn speaks with one of the Republicans who opposed the extension, Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), who believes Congress just "threw away the 4th Amendment." Rep. Massie explains the dirty tricks that the House used to pass the extension, including tying it to a defense package and giving legislators a "false choice" to either pass it or doom the world. So, is there any hope that this can be fixed?

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GLENN: Thomas Massie, welcome to the program, sir. How are you?

MASSIE: Well, I've been better.

I am a little bit out of breath. I just ran from that vote that just threw away the Fourth Amendment to our Constitution. They passed the -- the extension of the foreign intelligence surveillance act.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

MASSIE: That's been used to spy on Americans. So it's misnamed.

GLENN: Was it even close?

MASSIE: It was close. In a way. We only needed one-third of the House to vote against it, to stop it.

See, I sit on the rules committee. Chip Roy sits on the rules committee. Ralph Norman sits on the Rules Committee. We have a blocking position and we said, you're not going to mash this thing together, with the funding for our military, and put it on the floor.

That's the swamp way of doing things. And we're done with that. So instead of bringing the bill through the rules committee, as most rules go.

They brought it on the floor, without going to the Rule Committee by suspending the rules.

Now, they can do that. But then they have to get a two-thirds majority vote. We needed 140 votes, roughly, out of the people who were present. To stop it.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. 118. I would assume most of them Republicans, but I hear there were some Democrats that were against this as well.

MASSIE: Yeah. We had 73 Republicans vote against this, and 45 Democrats vote against it.

GLENN: Listen to this, America.

Just 76, did you say? Republicans!

MASSIE: Republicans, yeah.

GLENN: That is insanity. What are these people thinking?

MASSIE: Well, Glenn, they put you in a skiff here. One of the secret realms without your phone, and they try to convince you that the world is going to end if they don't allow you to reauthorize this. But that's a false choice. We passed a reform to this, that would require the government to get a warrant.

Out of Jim Jordan's Judiciary Committee, another committee that Chip Roy and I sit on. And the Speaker, instead of bringing it to the floor, as a standalone bill, brought this -- this horrible thing, that as you said in your intro, we already know they've admitted. They've used it illegally on -- 250,000 times on Americans. They brought this same program back to the floor. And they say it's a four-month reauthorization.

GLENN: It's not.

MASSIE: But Mike Lee read the bill, points out, it may be a year of reauthorization. Because they will just reset the clock in January.

GLENN: I -- can you give me any hope for -- for the republic?

MASSIE: People ask me, is there any hope?

I say, I am here on the 5 percent chance that we can fix it.

And on the 30 percent chance, that it all goes to hell, and I live through that. And I can be here to try to put it back together.

So, you know. We started out this year.

We were -- you know, and McCarthy put three of us on the rules committee. So we could make sure that this didn't happen. So we could make sure they didn't put two different bills together.

You understand -- I don't want to defend it. But I want to explain the reason 147 Republicans voted the wrong way. They were given a false choice.

They were saying, if you don't -- if you don't fund this program, then we won't be able to spy on terrorists. And, oh, by the way, we've attached it to the military funding bill and the soldiers won't get paid. And they won't --

GLENN: You know, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, Thomas. I don't mean to. I'm probably as mad as you are. But you're being much too kind. I'm sorry. If you're in Congress, and if you fall into that trap, which has which has been used over and over and over again, by both sides, you're a moron. And not smart enough to be in Washington, DC. Sorry.

MASSIE: It's -- it's Lucy and the football for some of us who have been here for ten years. We've seen it about three times. Because this program comes up for reauthorization every four years or so.

But you're right. They use the same tricks over and over. And in the classified rooms, they give you examples of how this program has been used to stop terrorists. But they don't give you examples of how this -- being able to spy on Americans, without a warrant has ever been able to help them stop a terrorist.

GLENN: We have -- I mean, does CTIL ring a bell with anyone?

Are they even paying attention?

You know, what Matt Taibbi and -- and Shellenberger came out and testified to, about CTIL and the program of psychological ops, being run on the American people.

The last thing this government needs is more power.

You know, everybody on the left, and the media. Oh, Donald Trump is going to be a dictator.

What's the difference, from what we're doing right now?

What's the difference?

MASSIE: Here's what's so frustrating to me, Glenn. Is we've waited. I've waited a decade to get a Chairman of Judiciary or Chairman of Intel. And in this case, we have got the Chairman of Judiciary who actually cares about this issue Jim Jordan.

And -- and Mike Johnson served on this committee. He was working on this problem, with us.

Then he became speaker. And he won't bring the judiciary bill to the floor.

GLENN: Why? Why?

What part of his soul do you think he sold?

MASSIE: I don't think he sold his soul.

I think they have put him in one of these rooms and shared him the extra super classified stuff. And convinced him, if he doesn't do this, this will be a terrorist attack on --

GLENN: There will be a terrorist attack in this country, because our borders are wide open.

MASSIE: That is true.

GLENN: I mean, you cannot have it both ways. You can't say, we have to have this tool, because terrorist attacks are going to happen. But we're letting 15 -- what is it 5,000 people in every day.

You can't have it both ways!

MASSIE: Listen, you're --

GLENN: I know. I'm sorry.

MASSIE: But your frustration is an expression of the frustration of your listeners and of my voters.

I am -- Chip Roy. He tried -- I have to give him credit. He called a motion to adjourn, before they brought this bill up. He tried to adjourn Congress.

GLENN: He should have put -- you know what, he should have pulled the fire alarm. They don't do anything about that anyway.

MASSIE: I guess we should all pull fire alarms.

GLENN: Yeah. I mean, it's unbelievable.

And then the gall of James clapper to come out.

And have the same people, that wrote the public statement about Hunter Biden's laptop. The same people come out and say, we really need section 702.

How do these people have any credibility?

With anybody?

MASSIE: I don't know. But they put them as subject matter experts.

They should be a reason to vote against this.

GLENN: Exactly right. Exactly right.

Okay. Can you tell me.

Gosh, you know, Thomas. You know I love you.

Don't feel like I'm taking it out on you.

But you're one of the good guys.

And thank Chip and Mike and everybody else working behind the scenes to stop this stuff.

MASSIE: There's a little bit of hope, Glenn.

Let me give you a little bit of hope. We still have the judiciary bill that can still bring it to the floor.

We can still pass that in the House. That's what we need to do. There's a fake reform package that the Intel Committee has passed. We do not need to bring that to the floor. Actually, Chip Roy and I and Ralph Norman stopped that from coming to the floor this week. The fake one.

So there's a real one on the docket. They could mark it up. January, February, March. That's what we need to do. It's got reforms like get a damn warrant.

It's got reforms like criminal penalties for people who abuse the program. It's got reforms like congressmen can go there, and look at what's goggle. Kind of reforms.

I think it's a serious bill.

That's the one we should go to the floor. And we should do it as soon as we get back from Christmas.

GLENN: All right. What else is being sneaked by the American people in the holiday season.

Because this is when it always happens. What else is going to happen?

MASSIE: Well, while I've got you on here. Here's what's coming up next. They did the extension. The CR.

GLENN: Yeah. Of course they did.

MASSIE: Into January and February. But remember, I got a provision that if they keep doing PRs, the whole budget gets cut 1 percent. I know that's not enough. But that will kick in, in April. And they are freaking out right now.

GLENN: Over 1 percent!

MASSIE: Over 1 percent. Like the world will end, if we spend 1 percent less this year than the Democrats did last year.

GLENN: Joe Biden -- Joe Biden farted out $200 million to Ukraine, and that wouldn't even -- that's not even touching 1 percent.

You are kidding me? They're freaking out?

MASSIE: They're freaking out. 1 percent is 15 billion. And Joe Biden is asking for another 60 billion.

He's asking for 4 percent of our discretionary budget additionally to go to Ukraine. And they're freaking out over this 1 percent cut provision, that I got signed into law. They did this out of desperation.

But now it's coming up. They will move heaven and earth to get out of that 1 percent. That's what everybody needs to be watching, I think, right now. Is whether they cheat us out of the 1 percent cut that Chuck Schumer voted for and Joe Biden signed so they can get the debt limit through.

GLENN: Hmm. Unbelievable.

Well, Thomas, thank you for all the fight that you guys are doing.

And I know that I hear from you guys. Personally, I hear from you, late at night.

What the hell am I still doing here.

You know, it's is not making a difference. You are making a difference.

And at least somebody is -- is standing up to all of this.

Can I ask you: Do you have an opinion on the Supreme Court taking the Donald Trump case? Or not the Donald Trump case, but the -- the -- what's-his-face -- you know, the -- the prosecutor.

That case?

MASSIE: I've been so busy with the FISA thing. I haven't paid attention to that.

I saw Joe Biden stroll through here, by the way, showing up to testify.

GLENN: Imagine the gall of that.

MASSIE: It's insane.

GLENN: Insane. Insane.

MASSIE: He's just flouting it in our faces.

GLENN: I know. And you guys can't really do anything, you can?

You can hold him in contempt of Congress, but that doesn't mean anything because the Justice Department is rogue.

MASSIE: That's correct. You referred to the DOJ. They're not going to do anything. It's the president's son.

GLENN: It's obscene. Thank you so much, Thomas. I appreciate it. All right. You bet. Buh-bye.

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Meet the pro-Intifada candidate NYC Democrats just elected

New York City Democrats just elected 33-year-old Zohran Mamdani, a "socialist Muslim", as the Party's candidate for mayor. But Glenn Beck argues that his radical beliefs are actually communist and Islamist.

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VOICE: Z10852. Something weird is going on. The World Trade Center is on fire.

VOICE: Seriously the top of the building. We're trying to get information.

VOICE: Top level of one of the --

VOICE: To unfold from New York City.

VOICE: A plane crashed just --

VOICE: My sister is in that believe. I hope she's okay. I have to come to New York.

VOICE: It's pandemonium.

VOICE: It's raining papers.

VOICE: Wait a minute! Stop just a second. Why are we -- why are we -- I've got breaking news. Breaking news, yesterday. New York City just elected as their mayoral candidate for the left. And the Democrats, a -- a Muslim radical, who is also a communist!

So, you know, it only took you 25 years. It only took you 25 years, New York, to go completely insane.

Somebody who is -- well, I mean, if I might quote Michael malice today. I am old enough to remember when New Yorkers endured 9/11 instead of voting for it.

But you've got a -- you've got a communist jihadist apologist now.

Who was -- you know, well, CAIR put $100,000 behind his bid for New York City mayor.

So you have somebody who is endorsed by CAIR. That's really good.

He also was somebody who said, you know, he was -- he was for the shooting of the United Health Care CEO.

Said he was looking forward to driving down magnum Joan avenue. I don't know. Sounds like supporting people in the streets. Maybe it's just me.

Then he also said that he was going to globalize the intifada, which I think that's -- maybe -- maybe that's just me.

I mean, what do I know?

Tim Miller who is a podcaster. Asked him a few weeks ago. Asked him about his pro Palestinian slogan. Globalized the intifada. And he said, for me, ultimately, what I hear in so many, is a desperate desire for equality and equal rights, in standing up for Palistinian human rights. Oh, is that what you hear, Mr. CAIR?

Really? Huh, that's interesting.

Right. So globalize the intifada.

I mean, I mean, sure, that's -- I mean well, let me go on.

Because I don't want to take him out of context.

He then delved into the semantics of the intifada, citing the United States Holocaust memorial museum's use of a word for a translation for uprising, in an Arabic version of an article, a museum published about the Warsaw ghetto.

Oh!

So this is just a comparison, about the -- the armed rebellion against the Nazis!

I don't know if that makes me feel better!

I mean, if we're globalizing that.

We're the Nazis in this scenario.

Because I don't think it's the Palestinians.

I certainly don't think it's anybody who is like, hey.

Global jihad. I don't think it's those guys.

Or the Nazis. Who are the Nazis in that?

And it seems, if that's what you mean, then it's not just a harmless kind of slogan about human rights. It is a call for violence on the streets.

Because I don't know if you know, that's what happened when the Jews had their uprising against the Nazis.

I'm just saying!

But, hey, hey, free Palestine.

Oh, that's not what that means, gang. That is not what that means, but don't worry about it. He's just going to be possibly the new mayor.

And that's great. By the way, the Columbia faculty members signed a letter defending Hamas.

They were also among the donors to his mayoral campaign.

So, you know, you don't have anything to worry about.

And his father, who used to work at Columbia. Do you know, Stu?

Is his Dad -- is he still a professor at Columbia University?

He said that -- this violent terror thing of Islam, is not a part of Islam. Now, I've read the Koran, and much of the hadith.

And I'm pretty sure the violence is a part of that. But no.

No. This is something entirely new.

And his father while at Columbia university, wanted everybody to know, that this is actually -- this is something that came out of America!

America is really responsible for this.

And, you know, it really started with the Reagan administration, you know, when he started -- when he started with his very religious terms, to finish the war against the evil empire.

So, you know, that's where -- that's where 9/11 came from.

Is what -- don't worry about it! Don't worry about it!

Because who am I? I'm clearly just -- am I an anti-Semite today, or am I an Islamophobic? I can't remember which one.

Oh, it's probably both. Anyway, Islamophobia. Let me just explain Islamophobia. I haven't even gotten to the Communist part of it. Which is really, really -- New York, you're in one for hell of a ride. Buckle up.

It will be a fun rollercoaster for you. My gosh, I've never been happier that I've been away are if New York.

Anyway, I just want I to know, there is Islam. And then there is Islamists. Now, an Islamist is somebody who really wants Sharia law.

That's political Islam!

That's not a faith. That's political Islam.

Now, let me make really -- something really clear. Criticizing Islamism, is not Islamophobia. Pointing out the dangers of, oh. I don't know.

Political Islam. The ideology that seeks to use the tools of democracy, ultimately to destroy democracy, is not an attack on Muslims.

No. Uh-uh.

You know why?

Because Muslims are often the first people in line.

The first victims of the ideology.

So let's draw a bright, bright line between Islam as a faith, millions of people can practice that faithfully and peacefully.

It's mostly peaceful, okay?

Then there's the Islamism.

Islamism is something entirely -- that's a political project.

A theocratic political -- oh. Left loves theocracies. They love it.

Of course, you never see a problem with it.

See it when an Islamist is touting it. Anyway, it's not about prayer. It's not about fasting. It's not about spiritual life.

It's all about power. It's about merging of mosque and state. It's about implementing Sharia, not as a personal code of conduct. But as a governing legal system.

And it's -- it's supremacy.

Absolutely. Faith.

Religion.

It's -- there's one thing that's supreme.

It's misogynistic.

Deeply intolerant of all kinds of things.

Descent. Secularism. Other faiths. Even competing interpretations from inside the faith itself.

It will behead them too.

So let's -- let's be honest here for a second.

You know, CAIR should be labeled an international terror organization.

In my opinion. In my opinion.

Oh, does that make me -- that makes me an Islamophobe. I'm sure. I'm sure they will start a campaign against me on being an Islamophobe.

Stand in line, guys. You've been doing it since 2001, okay?

I don't really care. And I don't think the American people. I think that record, all the grooves are worn-out on that one, okay?

This is not a religion we're talking about. When we're talking about Sharia law. And we're talking about globalize the intifada. What does that mean, actually, to globalize it?

Does that mean we now want to do what is happening to Israel? All over the world?

Has the Palestinian plight become our plight you now, as Americans?

That there has to be an intifada here!

Because it's the kind of the same. You know. It's kind of the same over, you know, with what the Palestinians are going through.

Well, it's very much like what the Jews went through with the Nazis.

That's a weird one. That one makes my head hurt. It's very much the same as that. And very much the same as the fight against Donald Trump.

Oh, this is going to be fun. It's fun!

Really fun. You know, the irony here is, the ones that will scream Islamophobia the most, are the ones in the progressive left, the champions of feminism, LGBTQ rights. And secularism.

They're going to -- no. You want -- they're going to stand with the people, who want to kill them first.

See, this is how smart they are!

This is why it's going to work out well, in New York City.

Let me just say. If you have an ounce of common sense, you run a business, you have an ounce of wealth. And I don't mean wealth like, you know, hey, Lovey.

Let's get on the boat for a three-hour tour with a suitcase full of cash. I mean you saved anything, anything, get the hell out of New York City.

I mean, this is about survival. This is about free speech. This is about women's rights.
Religious pluralism. Secular legal systems. Liberal democracy.

But it's also about failed principles of Communism. Okay?

First, you have to call out political Islam for what it is. Okay?

And we have to do it with the clarity that we call out white nationalism.

Got to do it with that. Got to -- you know, the Klan. Really bad people.

Really bad people.

Anybody who is shouting for globalized intifada?

Pretty bad. Pretty bad people.

Okay?

Now, let's get to communism.

Because that's another cool, cool angle of the new Democratic candidate for -- for mayor of New York City.

That I just -- I think is cuddly and cute. Sure, it led to 100 million deaths. But this time, New York is going to be radically different. Oh, did I use the word radical?

I didn't mean to use that. What's radical about this guy?

Nothing. He's just like you!

Well, not exactly.

But let's talk about communism, next!

Now, the new mayoral candidate that's running there in New York City. That so many young people rushed to defend and vote for. He's promising free buses.

That's going to work out.

Where are you going to get the money for free buses.

It's free!

City-run grocery stores.

Oh, rent freezes. And finally somebody has done it. A 30-dollar minimum wage.

So under the banner of equity. And, you know, we will tax the wealthy. And the corporations. You know, we're going to squeeze another $10 billion out of them.

Really?

Because they're going to call a U-Haul.

You know, they will call something like U-Haul. There will be a lot of -- there will be a lot of movers that are like, how do I get the truck back from Texas or Florida back up to New York? Nobody is moving up there.

But he's going to do it.

Now, his vision isn't really new. You know, just -- just tax people, so we could have city-run grocery stores. You know, I remember -- I'm old enough to remember those city-run grocery stores in Moscow.

They were great.

The shelves were empty.

But that's just Moscow.

It worked out completely different in Venezuela.

Where, oh, no.

It didn't. That's right. The grocery store.

They were eating the zoo animals.

But it will be different in New York.

Because they have rent controls too.

And that will just choke the housing supply, but don't worry. As a young family.

You know, you voted for it.

You know better.

It will work this time.

So, you know, I like building ideas, I just don't like usually building on the graves of 100 million people.

But, you know, why not? Why not?

You know, use this dogma.

And this time, it will be different. It's not like it was in China. Where the great leap forward, was a gross -- a gross parody of progress. Venezuela, which was oil rich. One of the richest nations in the hemisphere now sees 90 percent of its population in poverty!

Yeah. Darn it. You know what they did?

They decided to take state control of things.

You know, like grocery stores. And it worked out well. How is that free busing working out in Venezuela?

I just want to -- I just want to know.

Anyway, then you've got the globalize the intifada. Which is going to drop a little violence in, and anti-Semitism in with your communism.

Which is weird!

Because violence and anti-Semitism, always happen. When it -- when it comes to -- when it comes to communism.

This is weird!

I've got to play something for you. Because this has talked about on me earlier this morning.

Oh, wow.

Wait a minute. This is -- this is the whole coalition coming together here.

So this is going to be good. New York, this is going to be great.

It's going to be great for you.

No. He's going to uplift you. Then the social fabric of New York City is just going to be -- just one.

It's going to be fantastic. Don't worry about your 120 billion dollars in debt. Or your 10 billion-dollar deficit that you have right now.

You are going to charge the rich more taxes, and they will stay right there.

They will be like, you know what, that 46 percent in taxes that I'm paying, this is just not enough. It's just not enough.

I need to pay 60 or 70 percent to be able to pay my fair share. So that's good. That's good. That's good.

You know, they're not risking 100 million people. It's just 8 million people.

This time, it's just 8 million people.

But, hey. For those of you in upstate New York. That aren't going to be part of this experiment.

Don't worry, you get to pay for it. Because they'll kick it up to the state. The state will have to subsidize everything. And don't you love it?

Really, don't you want to subsidize the really crazy ideas of New York City?

I mean, why don't you have a -- why don't you have a democratic socialist. A/k/a communist mayor.

Why haven't you done that? Are you not progressive enough? Are you not looking into the future?

Are you stuck in the past?

I don't know. I don't know. The graveyard is pretty big. I have a hard time getting past that one. You know, yeah, so I'm stuck in the past. Because I can't seem to pass that graveyard, and get to be down the path with you. But it's going to be a paradise.

Forget arithmetic. You know, or human nature. This time, it's going to work. It's going to work. So all right!

Wish I lived in this morning.

No wait. Nope. I don't. Nope, I don't.

And Ted Cruz, stop it. Stop writing, hey, come to Texas. No. No. Don't come to Texas. Don't come to Florida. Go to California. It's beautiful this time of year. Go there. Go there.