RADIOMarch 14, 2024

THIS New Rule Could Make CRIMINALS Out of Small Business Owners

Did you know the Corporate Transparency Act could make small business owners CRIMINALS? Former investment banker and “You Will Own Nothing” author Carol Roth joins the Glenn Beck Program to explain how the federal government is completely out of control. She also says she'll join Glenn in a lawsuit to end this UNCONSTITUTIONAL act.

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GLENN: Again, another horse on the highway. The Treasury Financial Crimes Enforcement Network is looking to collect your information on the beneficial ownership information, that you have to report.

And I -- I am just -- I am there at FinCEN.gov/BOIfacts. And I have no idea. No idea.

And I'm -- I'm the one, I'm one of them that has to do it. Stu, your wife has an LLC, right? You have an LLC?

STU: I believe. I don't remember if it's structured that way. But, yeah. I believe it is.

GLENN: So anyone with an LLC. Even if you're not using it. You have to file, right?

CAROL: Yes. It is every reporting entity. So if you're a single member LLC. S-Corp.

C Corp. Whatever kind of instructor you have.

If you're not exempted, which means you don't have 20 employees, or $5 million in revenue, or fall into one of their other categories that they exempted. You know, somebody like a hedge fund, of course, is not included.

Because why would they be, right?

GLENN: Yeah. There's no money laundering.

CAROL: Right. So if you have a reporting entity. That's why I said, it sounds like there are other reporting entities, like housing associations that may get caught up, because they file something with their state.

So if you're a reporting entity, you have to file. And I don't know if you notice, on that FinCEN.gov/BOI homepage, that the first alert they had is a fraud alert. Because, of course, people are taking advantage of this. And trying to --

GLENN: Because nobody knows anything about it.

CAROL: So recommend tell you about the media. First of all, thank you for being a platform of truth, and one that supports small businesses. Because we've been talking about this. But none of the mainstream media has done anything to alert people to this.

However, Glenn, When the state of Alabama Supreme Court said that we're going to rule this unconstitutional, what did they say?

This is a blow to corporate transparency, this is going to make it harder to fight the cartels.

You tell me, what cartel, and what money launder, is self-reporting to FinCEN?

Okay.

GLENN: Well, let me also say this.

We have been talking about a giant crime family, that is money laundering for a long time.

But because it was ten for the big guy, or five for the big guy, he doesn't have to report this!

Because he's already over $5 million.

So if you -- I mean, if you're small time. Small time money launderer.

Then you have to do it. But if you're an honest money launderer, you don't have to file. If your money laundering is forever 5 million. Unbelievable.

CAROL: Well, that's the thing is that is really frustrating. They have tools that alert them to suspicious activity. There are suspicious activity reports from the banks, which the Biden family had well over 100 of them. I think on a combined basis.

And they did nothing to look into potential money laundering.

So if there is suspicious activity, or there is something that looks, you know, awry. They have ways to go through the courts, to go after that, you know, particular entity.

The ones who are massive criminals, aren't going to be reporting to FinCEN. So all this is, is a mass surveillance program against small businesses.

And the penalties, as you said, are insane.

It's not just for not reporting. It's if you don't update. So a woman gets married and changes her name.

You move. You get a new driver's license. Because the other one was out of date.

You don't let FinCEN know, they can send you to jail!

Why this was ever passed. And, oh, by the way, Trump did veto this. And it went back to Congress.

And they overwrote it. And nobody has done anything to fix this, is absolutely insane!

There are 33 million small businesses, in this country, why are they being put under a microscope, and saying, you are criminal.

You are financial criminals. And we are going to hold your feet to the fire, if you don't let us track you. It is insane.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I am just looking at this website.

It scrolls. And it just keeps scrolling and scrolling and scrolling. On what you have to do.

I mean, this is -- this is as bad as the IRS, if not worse.

Because none of us have ever done any of this before.

CAROL: Yes.

GLENN: You don't even know. Is there an organization out there, that can help file this?

I mean, the bureaucracy is crazy!

CAROL: So that's part of the challenge.

Is that there are accountants and lawyers, who are trying to get on top of it.

Because everything is so vague and confusing.

Even they're not entirely sure what to do.

So again, my recommendation, if you have an existing reporting entity.

You have until January 1st of next year.

I personally, with my LLC. I am not doing this. Until the very last minute.

Because we're working very hard. We're talking with lawmakers.

We're trying to get it overturned. At least delayed so we have a little breathing room to try to do something.

The problem is, if you start a new business, Glenn. You only have 30 days. And I have heard some rumblings. Whatever it is that they're collecting this information. That they don't have a formal database, built yet.

Go figure.

Right.

And so that information is incredibly vulnerable.

And that impacts the ability to start businesses in this country.

If you're starting one. And you have an entity. If you don't a reporting entity, you don't have to file --

GLENN: What does that mean? A reporting entity? That's an LLC?

CAROL: So something that you have to file information with your state to let them know that you're a business. There are certain people who act as sole proprietors, who don't have a business around them, or an entity around them. Like you said, an LLC, an S-Corp.

A C-Corp, and the like.

But if you have that reporting entity, that's where you're getting caught up in this.

And it is just -- it is just absolutely egregious, nefarious, and an affront to small business.

GLENN: I have a friend who has just this week, started a new business. Guarantee you, he knows nothing about this. And because he's starting a new business, he has 30 days.

CAROL: Thirty days, or he can be fined. He can be thrown in jail.

GLENN: Is it 500 or $800 a day, for every day after 30 days?

CAROL: Yeah. It's some incredible amount per day.

GLENN: And up to ten years, in prison.

CAROL: Civil and criminal penalties. For not -- for not reporting, or not -- again, not updating your information.

Not like you do this once, and you're done.

You have to remember this, any time you do anything that changes any of the information, that would be collected, in the system.

GLENN: You know, Stalin said, show me the man, I'll show you the crime. Or his Stasi chief said that.

CAROL: Yep. Yep.

GLENN: That's what this is.

I mean, everybody is -- with all of the new guide lines and regulations and everything else.

There's no way, you can keep up with all of these things.

And I think they're intentionally designed to be able to say, sorry, dude.

You're a criminal.

You did this. Buh-bye.

Because you know people who are connected, are never going to have a problem, from the Treasury financial crimes enforcement network.

CAROL: Yeah. And if you were really concerned about massive corporate transparency. Or massive scale laundering cartels. Then you would be exempting the small businesses.

And you would be focusing on the large companies that have the financial resources and the capabilities to do reporting.

Like the publicly traded companies do.

But it's exactly the opposite.

So what other conclusion could we possibly draw, that you want to surveil what small businesses are doing. And could go everything you can, to hold them down.

And, basically, continue to transfer wealth from Main Street to Wall Street.

GLENN: So when is -- when is -- can the group that now has filed and they said it was unconstitutional.

They can't file. Because they don't have standing, to kick it up to the Supreme Court, right?

CAROL: So I'm not a lawyer. I don't play one on TV.

I don't know what the procedure is. You have to ask the lawyer on that.

There are certainly a number of people, who are looking into additional lawsuits. There are some lawmakers. Who are looking into trying to get this overturned or at least delayed.

To give again, some time to rethink it.

And see what can be done. In terms of the court, I couldn't believe.

It's unconstitutional. But it's only unconstitutional for this person who filed the lawsuit. I have never seen anything like that.

GLENN: Have you ever seen anything like that before?

STU: No.

GLENN: No. No.

I mean, I will -- I will file, for a federal lawsuit.

I mean, anybody --

CAROL: I'll join you.

GLENN: You will join me?

CAROL: Yeah.

GLENN: I have no expertise in this. I have no idea. But let's do it.

I -- this government is completely out of control. If they can do this, and then they also have said, you know. There's no gig workers anymore. Carol, what is that going to do to the grocery shelves, when you can't get private drivers to drive trucks!

CAROL: I mean, this is insane.

And it goes against the complete shift in the economy.

One of the great things about technology. Is it gave people flexibility, Glenn.

Flexibility to work the way you want to work.

And that's the wonderful thing about America. Not everybody around the world, gets to choose what they do for a living. And how to work.

And more and more people want work/life balance. They don't want to be an employee. They want to make their hours.

And, in fact, when they go out and survey, from the government surveys on down. And they survey independent contractors.

The majority of people, don't want to be employees. They love being independent contractors. And they make at least as much, if not more, than if they were an employee. So the fact that we have the Department of Labor, who went around Congress, and say, we will change the way independent contractors are classified. We don't want to have these standalone people. We want them to be employees.

We want them to be in unions. It's all about big business. It's all about making the unions happy. And it's against capitalism. And your own choice. Your work. Your choice. The people who are so obsessed with choice in everything. Why would you not have a choice in how you present your labor? You and I agree on something. What does the government have to do, getting in the middle going, I'm sorry. I don't like the way you decided on how you want to work.

GLENN: And let me ask you this, too. Biden is working so hard to get labor unions to grow. And these kinds of things make you say, I don't want to be an owner of anything. I just want to be a worker. I don't want to stick my head out for any risk at all.

That's what this does. Then, as they squeeze and squeeze, and you don't really have any rights, people want to join unions. But the unions are in bed with the people that are squeezing you!

CAROL: It's the great consolidation. It's taking away that freedom, that choice, that capitalism, that underpins America. What it is that made us successful. That productivity that we talk about, that will allow us to continue to grow and at least have a chance to save this country's fiscal foundation. They want to do everything they can, to put up barriers. They want to put up barriers to work. To earning a living.

Like, if you said this to somebody, ten years ago, 15 years ago, they would look at you, like we're in a bizarro world.

GLENN: People did, when we talked about it, two years ago. That it was coming.

They looked at us, like that will never happen.

Well, here it is. Here it is.

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Why Trump is RIGHT to take back DC

President Trump is cracking down on crime in Washington, DC, and Glenn Beck believes it’s a “brilliant” move. Glenn explains why Trump is taking action, whether it’s legal, and what he believes it says to the world.

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GLENN: So the president yesterday, taking control of our Capitol back. And he said this, cut three. Listen.

DONALD: My father always used to tell me. I had a wonderful father. Very smart. And he used to say: Son, when you walk into a restaurant and you see a dirty front door, don't go in. Because if the front door is dirty, the kitchen is dirty also. Same thing with the Capitol. If our Capitol is dirty, our whole country is dirty, and they don't respect us.

GLENN: It's absolutely true.

This is the broken windows theory. You know what that is? The broken windows theory is something that Rudy Giuliani used to turn the country around. And that theory is, no one, no one, picks up a rock or can or bottle or anything, that's in a nice neighborhood that's clean and everything else.

You don't pick up a rock and break a window. However, if you're in a neighborhood where there is a lot of broken windows and everything is broken down, the average person is much more likely to pick up a rock and throw it through a window.

Why? Because the entire neighborhood says, we don't care.

So what Rudy Giuliani did, was he used this theory, and he cleaned up the -- he cleaned up the subways by doing a couple of things.

First thing he did, was he made sure, that if you were jumping the turnstile, for the -- for the subway, you were stopped right there.

Before, people just weren't paying a fair, they were just jumping a turnstile.

And nobody was doing anything about it.

He says, no one was crossing that turnstile. Now, what is it?

Is it a dollar to ride the subway? No one rides it for free. And so he put police, right there.

And they stopped you, and arrested you, if you were jumping the turnstile.

The second thing is, was he stopped the graffiti. He said, I don't care if they have to be repainted every single day.

When those things pull into the station, at night. If we get there in the morning, and they've been spray-painted, I want them all painted again, and then they go out.

Everything had been covered in graffiti.

And when he changed those two things, all of a sudden, the attitude, of the subway, it became safe again.

Because it was sending a signal to the bad guys and to the good guys, we care. We're not going to let this happen, anymore.

So what he's saying here, about dirty doorstep, means a dirty kitchen. It's absolutely true.

You ever gone into a restaurant. Gone into their bathroom. And you're like, oh, boy.

Oh, God.

I can't eat now.

Because if the -- the bathroom for the customer is like that. What is their kitchen like, where the customer never sees it. That's what he's doing, and he has the absolute right to do it. He's got 30 days, before he has to bring Congress into it.

This is the -- back in 1973, Congress passed this Home Rule Act. And they didn't have a mayor. They didn't have a city council. They didn't have any of these things.

This has been from the beginning of our country, the Founders wanted the District of Columbia, to be a district that is a federal district, run by the federal government. Not by local rile.

And in 1973, they started that. And it was all just to get them to be declared a state. First a city with a mayor. Then we should have power to elect the president of the United States.

Yada. Yada. Yada.

This has not been worked. This has been an experiment that has not worked at all. So he can deploy the National Guard for law enforcement, because there is no governor of DC. He can use it for emergencies, crowd control, and to execute federal laws. However, he just declared an emergency.

Now, under the Home Rule Act, he can assume control of the Metro PD, which he didn't, for up to 48 hours, during special conditions of emergency.
And that time period can be extended.

But he -- what he's doing here, is he's using these 30 days, hoping that the home rules act is going to be revealed. Only Congress can reveal that. But there's movement to reveal it now. And if Congress appeals the home rule act.

Then this nonsense in the District of Columbia is over. And if anyone tells you, you know what, the crime status are going down.

To what?

To what?

Even if they went down to 2019 standards, is that good enough?

I mean, it is still more dangerous than walking around in Bogota, Colombia.

It is twice as dangerous as walking around in Islamabad!

I don't know. I don't think that's really a good thing.

And, by the way, they changed the way -- you're a stat person. Did you read this about the stats.

PAT: Playing with them.

GLENN: Oh, my God. Playing with them.

Felony assault is not considered a violent crime now in their crime stats. Not assault. Felony assault. Felony means usually prison is -- is tied to that.

STU: Yeah. Not just some easy misdemeanor, where you get your hand slapped.

GLENN: Felony assault.

STU: Yeah. If you're not going to include that, it's hard to even take that seriously.

But your point is more crucial to this, than even the statistical games.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Because they keep -- they keep bragging they're getting it back to 2019 levels, or maybe a tick below. That's not good.

GLENN: No. It's not.

STU: What you're saying is acceptable is not acceptable.

That's the message from the White House.

I would love to see it.

And we're seeing it so far. I would love to see the Democrats try to win that battle those rules.

If what you're trying to tell me, because we were there for the inauguration.

GLENN: Police everywhere.

STU: Of course that was -- police everywhere -- it's a totally different --

GLENN: But I had a guy threaten my life, and not for political reasons. Just because I think he was batcrap crazy.

STU: Yeah. Yeah. Right. I mean, a lot of sane people threatened your life on a regular basis. Crazy.

GLENN: This is a nutjob.

STU: Yeah. But, like, unless you're at the mall, during the day, it's -- and even there, can get sketchy at times.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

STU: You feel it.

GLENN: You feel it. You feel it.

STU: You want to stay inside your hotel room.

GLENN: And, you know what, everybody knows this. Washington Post. There -- this is a story on how safe the city is.

This is a safe city, but overhearing witness game threats and then watching the camera footage of the thuggery is disturbing, said one resident.

Speaking on the condition of anonymity, over --

STU: Anonymity, over concerns of personal safety.

GLENN: Yes. Anonymity, over concerns of personal safety. So I don't want my name in the paper, because I'm afraid of the thugs finding out who I am, and killing me. But it's perfectly safe. Oh, my gosh!

STU: Everyone knows this! Anyone who has ever been to DC. You know it, by walking around.
Weird crap happens to you. People approach you, in threatening ways.

GLENN: You know, Rikki told me just a few minutes ago, our executive producer. She said, last time I was in DC. And she lived in DC for many, many years. She said, I was in my old neighborhood.
She said, I used to walk at 2 o'clock in the morning.
I never had a problem with that. She said, I went to this restaurant. And I was there with a friend.

And I had gone there a million times.

She says, it's in the middle of the day. Within just a few minutes, she's sitting on a patio outside, some huge guy, she said, 300 pounds, at least 6 feet, comes up and says, I'm going to kill you. And starts threatening her and her life.

They call the cops. It takes them 15 minutes. She's not far from the Capitol. Fifteen minutes to get there. And then they don't do anything about it.

He -- she's like, anybody who says, this isn't happening, has just never been there. Here's an ABC anchor. Now, remember, their whole spin is, this was fascism.

There's no -- it's a safe city. Listen to this ABC anchor. Listen to this. Cut one.

We've been talking so much about the numbers, and usually that's how you play devil's advocate. You talk about, oh, well, stats say crime is down.

However, I can tell you firsthand here in downtown DC, where we were, right here around our bureau, just in the past six months, you know, there were two people shot. One person died. Literally two blocks down here from the bureau.

It was within the last two years, that I actually was jumped, walking just two blocks down from here. And then just this morning, one of my coworkers said her car was stolen, a block away from the bureau. So we can talk about the numbers, going down. But crime is happening every single day, because we're all experiencing it firsthand while working and listing down here.

GLENN: Hmm. Hmm.

STU: You know.

GLENN: Go ahead.

STU: I was just going to say, I was on vacation last week. You know, it's like saying I'm cutting my calories from vacation levels to normal levels.

It's still not healthy. Right?

It's just -- even if there is an improvement from 2023, which some numbers do show, although the numbers are questionable.

2023 was just absolute catastrophe. And this is just terrible. Right?

Like, that -- there's no reason to embrace this norm.

As the norm.

GLENN: So let me give you -- I want to show you the response. The response on the left.

Here is -- show the full screen here of the free DC.

This came out yesterday.

Free DC. Like it's under some fascistic.

Look at this deal. And what it says is it is encouraging residents to protest Trump's federalizing of the city's police force. And what it wants to do is starting tonight at 8:00 p.m. And then every night, go out to stop this occupation.

Go out and bring pots and pans. And bang on them. And then when you're -- your neighbors go, what the hell is wrong with you!

Say, don't you care about the fascistic government.

STU: People will love that.

GLENN: This is crazy. This is crazy.

Now, if Donald Trump and I think with Jeanine Pirro.

I think some things are going to be happening quickly there.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: He actually has a chance. And I don't think he's doing it this way, for this reason.

But he actually has a chance of turning DC Republican.

Because you're living in that. Imagine --

STU: It's hard to imagine.

GLENN: It's hard to imagine. But imagine living there. And now you're seeing your side, that you've always voted for. Say, it's not so bad. And you know it's bad.

You can't have your wife go out to the grocery store at night.

You've had your carjacked. Maybe crazy people on the streets.

And then he's doing something. And if it works, if it works, people will be like, you know what, I'm sorry.

But that is a better solution.

He is -- this is very brilliant of him. He's very good at this.

He knows where people live.

You know, spiritually. And physically. He knows right where they live.

And where they're living in Washington it can't. Is a hellhole.

And everybody there knows it. And if he can actually change their lives, he changes everything.

Are these MAJOR PROBLEMS with our airlines widespread?

What is going on at our airports?! Glenn Beck has noticed an increase in flight issues – delays, technical problems, understaffing. So, he speaks with aviation expert Mike Boyd, who explains where he believes these issues are coming from. Are they widespread? Or is it just one airline? And can the FAA fix these issues under President Trump?

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GLENN: Mike Boyd. Welcome to the program, Mike, how are you?

MIKE: I'm doing fine. It's an honor to be here.

GLENN: Thank you. So thank you for coming on. I've been asking for an interview with Secretary Duffy, and we haven't been able to align the schedules yet.

But I am very concerned about our airlines. I was on a plane. These were all American Airlines, by the way. I was on the plane. The pilot, we got on. It was like two hours, three hours later late. We got on. And the pilot was standing in the aisle. And he said, everybody, I don't want you to blame the airlines. I want you to blame me.

And we're like, oh, okay.

And he said, because I wouldn't accept the plane, that they wanted to us fly because I have flown it before. And it has problems. And they haven't fixed those problems. And the only way it's going to be fixed is if we reject it. And say, I can't fly.

I don't know if that's true or not. Or what this guy -- you know, what the story was. But that didn't fill me with confidence. I'm like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. So you're actually saying, the airline is not repairing a plane.

And I don't think -- I mean, I don't think our airplanes are in trouble, and going to start falling out of the sky. But that has been happening lately.

What is happening with our airlines?

MIKE: Well, I think the experience you had, that one specific one. We've done a lot from -- I come from an American Airlines background. Nevertheless, we've done a lot of work with American pilots unions. These are very professional people. The fact that guy stood up there and said, I'm not confident with this airplane. That's a safety -- that's a safety plus.

GLENN: Oh, I appreciated that. We thanked him for that. Thank you. Thank you.

MIKE: But we have a major problem with American Airlines. If you have pilots saying, I don't trust you. These are not yo-yos. These are not good consumer men's. These are professionals. If they say that, we have a problem in America. If that happens in America, and I think you might want to call the folks down there in Fort Worth, their brand-new American Way headquarters. They spent billions on them and asked questions.

But overall, I haven't seen that. Are there big problems with air traffic control?

Yes. No question about that. And we finally have somebody that the FAA and the DOT, who has a clue. And that will be addressed.

But overall, if it's just one airline, you're on the right track, as far as looking at it.

GLENN: Okay.

So this is -- but are you seeing this kind of stuff happening with other airlines.

MIKE: No. No.

GLENN: I'm flying out of Dallas all the time. So I generally fly American. And I occasionally will fly Delta. But, you know, it's mainly American. So I just assume this is happening on other airlines as well.

Because I'm reading the comments from people. And they're like, I can't trust that I can get there the next day anymore.

And that's a real problem.

MIKE: Well, because air travel is. I have to get there times certain.

This is not a game. I have to get to the bar mitzvah, whatever I'm going.

So if they can't get there, I'm not going to go. And the reason I'm not going to go, is you can't get me there. Now, if you look at reliability.
And again, we've had some issues, like Frontier Airlines, if you want to see Saturday Night Lights, go to YouTube. You'll see a gated -- a gated net, Frontier Airlines. It's really bad. But if you look at others, like our friends at United Airlines -- and I don't work for those guys. They have a system where if you book at United, very often, they're with you the whole damn trip.

If you don't like a lot of text messages, don't book them. They're with you, the whole time. And their CEO is functionally age, about making sure, whatever went on. Whatever it is. Take it or leave it.

From that point, I think you may have stumbled over something that affects the metroplex, more than anything else.

GLENN: So how's -- because I've been on the plane. And everybody is like, we're going to have missing.

You know, you will miss your connections.

And everybody is like -- is this kind of -- is the airline system set up almost like the Just In Time supply line? That if it did ever go into catastrophic failure, it would be a real problem.

Because, I mean, it's just one plane arrives, just in time for everyone to unload and reload and take off again.

MIKE: Well, yeah. That's just the issue. In ancient times, our friends at Southwest could come in and go in ten minutes.

Today, you can't get ten seats emptied in that amount of time. So they're really trying to cut down the amount of time, on the ground. That makes sense.

The question is, they have to have systems they can't be allow them to do that.

Now, delta has put in a very comprehensive system that only works for Delta, where they have been able to coordinate all those things, and do a better job of it.

But you're right. If you're coming in and going out, and that airplane has to do a go-around, coming into Atlanta. That could be 15 minutes.

That 15 minutes could mean, you can't get across the terminal to get your connection. That's going to happen.

GLENN: Tell me about the situation.

Because, Stu, you did a documentary on how bad the air traffic control system was. Right?

STU: Yes, I did.

GLENN: And is that on YouTube still? What was the name of it?

STU: It is. Countdown to the next Aviation Disaster. Unfortunately the countdown was not as long as you would have hoped it would have been.

GLENN: Yeah, it is. I mean, what's going on in our air traffic control.

And I would never want to be an air traffic controller. The stress these guys are under.

And that's not -- I'm not even calculating the stress on how close these planes are flying in and out now.

I mean, I'm just thinking, back in the good old days, where it was very stressful.

Now they're still passing paper to each other. And these planes are one on top of the other one.

When are we going to change this system and update it?

MIKE: Duffy is doing that. Duffy is not -- and finally, we have an FAA administrator who has a clue. Brian Bedford. He's been around. No, I've known him for 40 years. This man knows the business, and he's all business.

And, you know -- and, you know, I know he's good because Chuck Schumer doesn't like him. So that underlines everything right there.

GLENN: Good.

MIKE: So that's starting right now. Look, we testified to Congress in 1994 on this. On a free flight system, that you could make it far more efficient. The FAA blew it off. The FAA has always been a repository of some really great people at the operational level.

But at the top, these are just political appointees. Take a look at the FAA administrator that the -- the last president wanted. Phil Washington. Nice guy. Clueless. But he was a good appointee.

We can't do that anymore. I think we're going to see some major changes right now.

GLENN: Now, can -- how long is it going to take us to fix this?

MIKE: Well, you know, one of the things.

It's sort of -- what Duffy said, well, we have a -- there was a program in place to fix it over the next five years. And that's ridiculous.

So he's on it. I mean, he just went up to Wisconsin. He found the oldest, I think the oldest control tower in the nation. We're going to fix this. He's really making a point of trying to get it done.

And I think he's doing it incrementally. Where like Newark. What a disaster. I don't mean this city, necessarily. I do.
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But at the airport, you know.

He's trying to make that work better.

This guy is on it. So I'm thinking 18 months.

It's going to be incremental. But we will start to see this happen.

GLENN: In Newark, or in the country?

MIKE: In the country. Because we can't have a free flight system that is far more efficient --

GLENN: What does it mean, a free flight system?

MIKE: There's a free flight system -- they want to ignore this, where every airplane takes off, and it finds its own ways. Keep in mind, the skies aren't crowded.

You can put 250,000, count them, 737s in a cubit mile of airspace, parked, not moving.

But that's a quarter million of them. And any time in America, today, in the sky, you might have just 14,000 -- 14,000 airplanes in the sky.

GLENN: Wow.

MIKE: But that's like 11 million cubic miles of airspace. So we can use our airspace better.

But what we've had is quite frankly, an FAA that hasn't wanted to think about it. It's more worried about itself. I am convinced that is going to change over the next two years.

GLENN: And are we close to having AI do all of this free flight stuff?

I mean, I would imagine that you don't -- I mean, you don't need to check in with tower, if AI is assisting finding it.

MIKE: Oh, exactly. We've got to use that. And a lot of it -- it's -- the head of the FAA has always been the clown of the Titanic. He says, slow down.

And by the time, it gets back to the engine room, you know, we've hit the iceberg. I think it's one of those things that we have to recognize, a lot of stuff has to change organizationally at the FAA, and at the department of transportation. I think finally we have people that can actually address that.

GLENN: Wow!

That is -- I mean, this is wildly optimistic, but I am happy to hear that. I like Secretary Duffy.

I don't know much about him.

Not enough to say enough like you're talking. That makes me feel really good. I'm very concerned about our air travel.

It's not good. Not good.

Not going in the right direction.

MIKE: It's not going in the right direction.

I find out, if I treat the customer right, they might come back and fly me, and what's happening now, people are getting away from some of these really low fair airlines, where the seat is like, a bucket seat in a C-119.

They don't want to fly those things anymore. And people like United and Delta and other carriers are saying, we'll take your business.

And they are.

GLENN: I have to tell you, at times, I'll be on a plane. And I think we're like one scruffy dog with one blue eye, just walking down the aisle, creepily away from third world airlines. I mean, it's like, there are times I'm like, is there a chicken going to run down the aisle too? What country do we live in?

It's beyond. It really is the greyhound of the sky now.

MIKE: It is. There's no question. My mother was a stewardess in the 1930s. Everybody dressed up.

GLENN: Yes.

MIKE: Today, you're lucky if everybody is dressed.
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GLENN: I don't know why we haven't had you on before, Mike. You're very funny.

Mike, thank you so much. For an inside look on this. I appreciate it. Mike Boyd, aviation expert. From the Boyd group international. He's the president and CEO.

MIKE: Me pleasure. Thank you.

GLENN: He's the guy who consults all these airlines and tries to help fix them.

And is also, you know, testifying in front of Congress all the time.