RADIOOctober 16, 2023

Second Armenian genocide? Ancient Christian population TARGETED in Middle East

As the world reacts to the horrors committed by Hamas in Israel, Glenn wants to bring attention to another tragedy as well: Azerbaijan's continued genocide of the Armenian people. Former International Religious Freedom Ambassador at Large Samuel Brownback joins Glenn to explain the current crisis as Azerbaijan attempts to cut off an Armenian enclave: "This is yet another ancient Christian population being driven out of the Middle East region." And he argues that this is yet another move by the "Axis of Evil" countries to gain power around the world as the United States looks the other way. So, what should the country — and we the people — do?

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GLENN: Something that hasn't gotten attention, that should have is what's happening in Armenia. And all I can think of is -- Kurcrapistan.

But it's Azerbaijan. Thank you, Stu.

In Azerbaijan. There's a liquidation going on. A genocide going on.

Again, of the Armenian people. The Armenian people are the first -- that's the first Christian nation on earth.

And it is the -- it is the Armenian Genocide. Around World War I, that actually taught Hitler, I can go just erase a whole bunch of people, and the world won't say anything about it.

You know, when they say that history repeats itself, some will say, no, it doesn't. Well, maybe it rhymes.

This is history repeating itself.

Currently, under the gun. The liquidation of Christians, Armenian Christians, and Jews.

Ambassador Brownback is with us now. Sam Brownback. He's the National Committee for the Religious Freedom -- he's chairman of that.

He's also an ambassador at large and former Kansas governor and good friend of the program. Sam, how are you, sir?

SAM: Hey, I'm doing well, Glenn. And thank you for addressing this topic. It's just getting precious little play, and more people need to know about.

GLENN: We have been following it, from really the beginning. We've been doing it quietly. Because there's not a lot of people that know about it. And it's getting no play. And it needs to be understood.

So you were just there. Can you -- you can tell us what's happening?

SAM: Yes. You've got Turkey. Basically, behind Azerbaijan. And it's best to think of Azerbaijan like Belarus is to Russia. Turkey is the puppet master here.

And they are pushing and allowing and giving military armament to Azerbaijan, as we have.

And they're -- they're pushing to have this done, while the Biden administration is looking another way. Or is being reckless in our response.

That's basically what has happened. They have long-term wanted Armenia and these Christian enclaves out of there. It's a bone in their throat. Erdogan, the head of Turkey is an Islamist. He wants to take over the world. Certainly, this region. And he's doing this while the United States is distracted.

GLENN: We have 100,000 refugees in you, from this region in Azerbaijan.

It is -- it's almost like a Native American reservation here in America. It's right smack in the middle, surrounded by Azerbaijan.

But it's Armenian. And there's this corridor, that connects to Armenia. And they have been starving these people out.

They have been cutting off everything.

About 100,000 have escaped. How many more are there?

SAM: Probably 20,000, that are still there.

But here again, Glenn, and this is the big point to me, is this is yet another ancient Christian population, being driven out of this Middle East, kind of extended region.

And what will happen, they will go to Armenia.

They'll be absorbed into Europe, into the United States. Australia, Canada, but it will be another one gone.

And we just kind of -- we have had tools to sanctions Azerbaijan, to sanction Turkey.

To press, and put some real teeth out there.

We can stop the army in Azerbaijan, and we have not used any of these tools that are readily available to the administration.

GLENN: How connected is this, to what's happening in Israel?

SAM: Well, I argued that Armenia is to Christendom, what Israel is to Judaism. It's kind of the first, and Israel is the only Jewish nation, and Armenia is the first. And you've got Muslim populations surrounding both.

Trying to kick them out.

And this is a play you see often, in the Middle East.

Where there's just not tolerance for Christians or Jews. And that's why I've been pushing so much for religious freedom for everybody, everywhere. And this is the standard by which governments and nations should stand by.

And we're certainly not seeing it taking place in either of these situations.

GLENN: Talking to ambassador Sam Brownback.

Sam, the -- the administration, you know, you say is asleep at the switch.

But I have a hard time believing that all of these things. I mean, if you see what is -- how much money this administration has been sending Iran without us even really knowing it. They're on the wrong side of things.

But would you say that this is the way the world looks? If we don't turn America around?

SAM: Yes. Look, what you've -- you've got an axis of evil. Evil axis. Malign evil. Whatever you want to call it. Between Iran, Russia, and China.

And they are out to take over the world.

And they have been losing ground.

But now, they are out there pushing to gain background.

So Russia goes after Ukraine.

Iran is behind Hamas and Hezbollah. And pushing on Israel.

Turkey, a regional player, is saying, let's go get these Armenians, which we have wanted to do, for a thousand years.

Let's do it now. While we have an administration in Washington, that won't -- that won't fight back.

Did use the tools that is available.

And I have no idea, honestly, Glenn. Why the Biden administration isn't doing more. They have the tools.

We have the ability to do this.

And we're simply not acting here.

GLENN: What do you suggest, Sam?

What can we do?

What can people do?

SAM: Well, they can push Congress.

And I -- I hope people, even will write the administration.

But they can -- Congress can step up and do -- and put this a lot more out there, on the -- on the map.

Would be something that people could help -- could help out with.

Because we've got to sanction Azerbaijan. We have to sanction Turkey.

And, right now, we have to really go after Iran. They're the puppet master on Hamas and Hezbollah. Hamas and Hezbollah do not act without Iran.

And we have been sending money to Iran. Instead of sanctioning Iran, as you point out.

This has to stop. And people need to yell about it. And call into radio programs. And put it out on their social media.

Iran and this axis of evil. And Turkey as a regional player, just seeking to take over the world, while we're not acting at all.

GLENN: Sam, I appreciate everything that you guys are doing.

You can tell me a little bit about the 125 reasons coalition?

ANN: It's a group of Christians and Jews, primarily, that are trying to stand up for this ancient, Christian population.

And saying, they need to be able to live, in their native homeland. That's been native to them. For thousands of years.

And not being driven out. And that's what this coalition is standing up and pushing.

And it's one of the coalitions that is trying to get some publicity. Some knowledge of the people out there. About this ancient Christian population

Of Armenians. That are primarily orthodox Christians. But love their faith. Love God.

And have been driven out. And in a second genocide.

GLENN: Senator, thank you so much -- or, sorry, Ambassador Brownback, thank you so much for being on with us.

Appreciate all you do.

SAM: Thank you, Glenn.

GLENN: You bet.

OneHundredTwentyThousandReasons.org. OneHundredTwentyThousandReasons.org.

This is something that everybody should check out. And you should share it with your church.

We have got to do more. There is -- Stu said to me, about 15 minutes ago. There's not a lot of good. I've not seen a lot of right in the world.

I am. And let me tell you about it.

As I said to Sam. And I don't even know if he knows this.

But the Nazarene Fund is on the ground.

In Armenia. And Azerbaijan.

We have been doing this, quietly, because there's -- you're -- you're so focused on other things.

But we know what's going on, and it's time now to pay attention.

Because it is -- with what happened in Iran, this is going to run all across the world.

So we are on the ground, right now, helping with temporary housing, and life-sustaining food and medicine.

We are looking to move those who are in danger, away from the border. And the dangerous areas.

There's 100,000 refugees, right now, in Armenia. Practice have and the media concern is just securing warm shelter.

Before the winter arrives.

It's unforgiving in Armenia.

We deployed in Armenia, began -- began our work there.

Preliminary results suggests 300 to 400 Armenians are unaccounted for. Some have chosen to remain in their home enclave, while others have feared being injured or killed or facing imminent danger from Azerbaijani forces.

Some of the casualties are the result of large explosions at a crowded gas station, which left dozens of dead people, and unaccounted.

We are in contact with 15 to 20 families, whose loved ones, predominantly men, are missing.

Our team has already located, recovered, and removed the remains of a father and his son, who were across the border, providing some closure for their families.

Also, residents of border towns, many of whom have family members, considered as war heroes, are currently under threat.

We're committed to their protection.

Our team has also begun extending financial assistance for rent and medical care and food, to numerous families.

There is grave concerns, that this is going to get much, much worse.

These are Christians. That just want to be left alone.

They are the oldest Christian nation.

And they are being liquidated.

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Meet the pro-Intifada candidate NYC Democrats just elected

New York City Democrats just elected 33-year-old Zohran Mamdani, a "socialist Muslim", as the Party's candidate for mayor. But Glenn Beck argues that his radical beliefs are actually communist and Islamist.

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VOICE: Z10852. Something weird is going on. The World Trade Center is on fire.

VOICE: Seriously the top of the building. We're trying to get information.

VOICE: Top level of one of the --

VOICE: To unfold from New York City.

VOICE: A plane crashed just --

VOICE: My sister is in that believe. I hope she's okay. I have to come to New York.

VOICE: It's pandemonium.

VOICE: It's raining papers.

VOICE: Wait a minute! Stop just a second. Why are we -- why are we -- I've got breaking news. Breaking news, yesterday. New York City just elected as their mayoral candidate for the left. And the Democrats, a -- a Muslim radical, who is also a communist!

So, you know, it only took you 25 years. It only took you 25 years, New York, to go completely insane.

Somebody who is -- well, I mean, if I might quote Michael malice today. I am old enough to remember when New Yorkers endured 9/11 instead of voting for it.

But you've got a -- you've got a communist jihadist apologist now.

Who was -- you know, well, CAIR put $100,000 behind his bid for New York City mayor.

So you have somebody who is endorsed by CAIR. That's really good.

He also was somebody who said, you know, he was -- he was for the shooting of the United Health Care CEO.

Said he was looking forward to driving down magnum Joan avenue. I don't know. Sounds like supporting people in the streets. Maybe it's just me.

Then he also said that he was going to globalize the intifada, which I think that's -- maybe -- maybe that's just me.

I mean, what do I know?

Tim Miller who is a podcaster. Asked him a few weeks ago. Asked him about his pro Palestinian slogan. Globalized the intifada. And he said, for me, ultimately, what I hear in so many, is a desperate desire for equality and equal rights, in standing up for Palistinian human rights. Oh, is that what you hear, Mr. CAIR?

Really? Huh, that's interesting.

Right. So globalize the intifada.

I mean, I mean, sure, that's -- I mean well, let me go on.

Because I don't want to take him out of context.

He then delved into the semantics of the intifada, citing the United States Holocaust memorial museum's use of a word for a translation for uprising, in an Arabic version of an article, a museum published about the Warsaw ghetto.

Oh!

So this is just a comparison, about the -- the armed rebellion against the Nazis!

I don't know if that makes me feel better!

I mean, if we're globalizing that.

We're the Nazis in this scenario.

Because I don't think it's the Palestinians.

I certainly don't think it's anybody who is like, hey.

Global jihad. I don't think it's those guys.

Or the Nazis. Who are the Nazis in that?

And it seems, if that's what you mean, then it's not just a harmless kind of slogan about human rights. It is a call for violence on the streets.

Because I don't know if you know, that's what happened when the Jews had their uprising against the Nazis.

I'm just saying!

But, hey, hey, free Palestine.

Oh, that's not what that means, gang. That is not what that means, but don't worry about it. He's just going to be possibly the new mayor.

And that's great. By the way, the Columbia faculty members signed a letter defending Hamas.

They were also among the donors to his mayoral campaign.

So, you know, you don't have anything to worry about.

And his father, who used to work at Columbia. Do you know, Stu?

Is his Dad -- is he still a professor at Columbia University?

He said that -- this violent terror thing of Islam, is not a part of Islam. Now, I've read the Koran, and much of the hadith.

And I'm pretty sure the violence is a part of that. But no.

No. This is something entirely new.

And his father while at Columbia university, wanted everybody to know, that this is actually -- this is something that came out of America!

America is really responsible for this.

And, you know, it really started with the Reagan administration, you know, when he started -- when he started with his very religious terms, to finish the war against the evil empire.

So, you know, that's where -- that's where 9/11 came from.

Is what -- don't worry about it! Don't worry about it!

Because who am I? I'm clearly just -- am I an anti-Semite today, or am I an Islamophobic? I can't remember which one.

Oh, it's probably both. Anyway, Islamophobia. Let me just explain Islamophobia. I haven't even gotten to the Communist part of it. Which is really, really -- New York, you're in one for hell of a ride. Buckle up.

It will be a fun rollercoaster for you. My gosh, I've never been happier that I've been away are if New York.

Anyway, I just want I to know, there is Islam. And then there is Islamists. Now, an Islamist is somebody who really wants Sharia law.

That's political Islam!

That's not a faith. That's political Islam.

Now, let me make really -- something really clear. Criticizing Islamism, is not Islamophobia. Pointing out the dangers of, oh. I don't know.

Political Islam. The ideology that seeks to use the tools of democracy, ultimately to destroy democracy, is not an attack on Muslims.

No. Uh-uh.

You know why?

Because Muslims are often the first people in line.

The first victims of the ideology.

So let's draw a bright, bright line between Islam as a faith, millions of people can practice that faithfully and peacefully.

It's mostly peaceful, okay?

Then there's the Islamism.

Islamism is something entirely -- that's a political project.

A theocratic political -- oh. Left loves theocracies. They love it.

Of course, you never see a problem with it.

See it when an Islamist is touting it. Anyway, it's not about prayer. It's not about fasting. It's not about spiritual life.

It's all about power. It's about merging of mosque and state. It's about implementing Sharia, not as a personal code of conduct. But as a governing legal system.

And it's -- it's supremacy.

Absolutely. Faith.

Religion.

It's -- there's one thing that's supreme.

It's misogynistic.

Deeply intolerant of all kinds of things.

Descent. Secularism. Other faiths. Even competing interpretations from inside the faith itself.

It will behead them too.

So let's -- let's be honest here for a second.

You know, CAIR should be labeled an international terror organization.

In my opinion. In my opinion.

Oh, does that make me -- that makes me an Islamophobe. I'm sure. I'm sure they will start a campaign against me on being an Islamophobe.

Stand in line, guys. You've been doing it since 2001, okay?

I don't really care. And I don't think the American people. I think that record, all the grooves are worn-out on that one, okay?

This is not a religion we're talking about. When we're talking about Sharia law. And we're talking about globalize the intifada. What does that mean, actually, to globalize it?

Does that mean we now want to do what is happening to Israel? All over the world?

Has the Palestinian plight become our plight you now, as Americans?

That there has to be an intifada here!

Because it's the kind of the same. You know. It's kind of the same over, you know, with what the Palestinians are going through.

Well, it's very much like what the Jews went through with the Nazis.

That's a weird one. That one makes my head hurt. It's very much the same as that. And very much the same as the fight against Donald Trump.

Oh, this is going to be fun. It's fun!

Really fun. You know, the irony here is, the ones that will scream Islamophobia the most, are the ones in the progressive left, the champions of feminism, LGBTQ rights. And secularism.

They're going to -- no. You want -- they're going to stand with the people, who want to kill them first.

See, this is how smart they are!

This is why it's going to work out well, in New York City.

Let me just say. If you have an ounce of common sense, you run a business, you have an ounce of wealth. And I don't mean wealth like, you know, hey, Lovey.

Let's get on the boat for a three-hour tour with a suitcase full of cash. I mean you saved anything, anything, get the hell out of New York City.

I mean, this is about survival. This is about free speech. This is about women's rights.
Religious pluralism. Secular legal systems. Liberal democracy.

But it's also about failed principles of Communism. Okay?

First, you have to call out political Islam for what it is. Okay?

And we have to do it with the clarity that we call out white nationalism.

Got to do it with that. Got to -- you know, the Klan. Really bad people.

Really bad people.

Anybody who is shouting for globalized intifada?

Pretty bad. Pretty bad people.

Okay?

Now, let's get to communism.

Because that's another cool, cool angle of the new Democratic candidate for -- for mayor of New York City.

That I just -- I think is cuddly and cute. Sure, it led to 100 million deaths. But this time, New York is going to be radically different. Oh, did I use the word radical?

I didn't mean to use that. What's radical about this guy?

Nothing. He's just like you!

Well, not exactly.

But let's talk about communism, next!

Now, the new mayoral candidate that's running there in New York City. That so many young people rushed to defend and vote for. He's promising free buses.

That's going to work out.

Where are you going to get the money for free buses.

It's free!

City-run grocery stores.

Oh, rent freezes. And finally somebody has done it. A 30-dollar minimum wage.

So under the banner of equity. And, you know, we will tax the wealthy. And the corporations. You know, we're going to squeeze another $10 billion out of them.

Really?

Because they're going to call a U-Haul.

You know, they will call something like U-Haul. There will be a lot of -- there will be a lot of movers that are like, how do I get the truck back from Texas or Florida back up to New York? Nobody is moving up there.

But he's going to do it.

Now, his vision isn't really new. You know, just -- just tax people, so we could have city-run grocery stores. You know, I remember -- I'm old enough to remember those city-run grocery stores in Moscow.

They were great.

The shelves were empty.

But that's just Moscow.

It worked out completely different in Venezuela.

Where, oh, no.

It didn't. That's right. The grocery store.

They were eating the zoo animals.

But it will be different in New York.

Because they have rent controls too.

And that will just choke the housing supply, but don't worry. As a young family.

You know, you voted for it.

You know better.

It will work this time.

So, you know, I like building ideas, I just don't like usually building on the graves of 100 million people.

But, you know, why not? Why not?

You know, use this dogma.

And this time, it will be different. It's not like it was in China. Where the great leap forward, was a gross -- a gross parody of progress. Venezuela, which was oil rich. One of the richest nations in the hemisphere now sees 90 percent of its population in poverty!

Yeah. Darn it. You know what they did?

They decided to take state control of things.

You know, like grocery stores. And it worked out well. How is that free busing working out in Venezuela?

I just want to -- I just want to know.

Anyway, then you've got the globalize the intifada. Which is going to drop a little violence in, and anti-Semitism in with your communism.

Which is weird!

Because violence and anti-Semitism, always happen. When it -- when it comes to -- when it comes to communism.

This is weird!

I've got to play something for you. Because this has talked about on me earlier this morning.

Oh, wow.

Wait a minute. This is -- this is the whole coalition coming together here.

So this is going to be good. New York, this is going to be great.

It's going to be great for you.

No. He's going to uplift you. Then the social fabric of New York City is just going to be -- just one.

It's going to be fantastic. Don't worry about your 120 billion dollars in debt. Or your 10 billion-dollar deficit that you have right now.

You are going to charge the rich more taxes, and they will stay right there.

They will be like, you know what, that 46 percent in taxes that I'm paying, this is just not enough. It's just not enough.

I need to pay 60 or 70 percent to be able to pay my fair share. So that's good. That's good. That's good.

You know, they're not risking 100 million people. It's just 8 million people.

This time, it's just 8 million people.

But, hey. For those of you in upstate New York. That aren't going to be part of this experiment.

Don't worry, you get to pay for it. Because they'll kick it up to the state. The state will have to subsidize everything. And don't you love it?

Really, don't you want to subsidize the really crazy ideas of New York City?

I mean, why don't you have a -- why don't you have a democratic socialist. A/k/a communist mayor.

Why haven't you done that? Are you not progressive enough? Are you not looking into the future?

Are you stuck in the past?

I don't know. I don't know. The graveyard is pretty big. I have a hard time getting past that one. You know, yeah, so I'm stuck in the past. Because I can't seem to pass that graveyard, and get to be down the path with you. But it's going to be a paradise.

Forget arithmetic. You know, or human nature. This time, it's going to work. It's going to work. So all right!

Wish I lived in this morning.

No wait. Nope. I don't. Nope, I don't.

And Ted Cruz, stop it. Stop writing, hey, come to Texas. No. No. Don't come to Texas. Don't come to Florida. Go to California. It's beautiful this time of year. Go there. Go there.