RADIOJanuary 06, 2025

Why the Spending Bill Fight is PROOF that DOGE is Working

Is the Republican Party’s “unity” collapsing? The legacy media insists that Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and Rep. Chip Roy are tearing each other apart over the continuing resolution spending bill. But Glenn and fellow BlazeTV host ‪@lizwheeler‬ argue that this isn’t the truth: “How lucky are we that 2 months ago, we were debating ‘good vs evil.’ And now, we’re debating ‘good vs better.’ It also shows you that the DOGE process is working.” Glenn and Liz break down what’s happening with the spending bill debate and why Republicans are disagreeing over the debt ceiling.

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GLENN: I want to talk about the collapse of the unity. Can you give this story, to me, Liz, without -- with just the details of everybody's arguing and hating on each other.

LIZ: Yes. It is, of course.

If you listen to the mainstream media. It's a circling firing squad. Between Chip Roy. Donald Trump, and Elon Musk.

I don't view it that way at all.

I actually like to see this kind of contention within the Republican ranks. Because how lucky are we, that two months ago, we were debating good versus evil.

And now we're debating good versus better. This is a wonderful thing.

It also shows you, that the DOGE process is -- is working.

Elon Musk said, listen. Go ahead.

STU: Okay. So before we get there, explain.

Because I was on a plane yesterday. So I must see the bill, that was presented.

And I get off the plane, and everybody is hating on each other. Like, wait a minute. Wait a minute.

What just happened. Mike Johnson proposed his bill on Wednesday. And that went to hell in a handbasket.

Thank God we got rid of that!

That would have been a nightmare. Then they proposed a second bill.

And it increased the debt ceiling. Which has to be done by June or July of this year.

Increased it by $5 trillion. And all of the conservatives. And, quite frankly, conservatives like me.

And I think you, that have been for stop raising the at the time ceiling. Let's get out of debt.

We started having this debate about the debt. The debt ceiling has got to be -- has got to go up, unfortunately, in -- at this time.

Well, let me finish the -- what actually happened first, before we get into that.

So people like Chip Roy stood up and Donald Trump had endorsed this. They say it was a clear CR. But if I'm not mistaken, wasn't there some other stuff in there? Like protection for the January 6ers?

Was that left in, or was that taken out?

Do you know, Jill? Liz. Sorry.

LIZ: It was mostly clean. The objectionable parts you raised your voice against last couple of days, the reauthorization of the global engagement center, the vaccine passports. That kind of garbage was taken out.

It did increase the debt ceiling. Technically, I think it was the extension of the already increases -- automatic increases.

And I understand in principle. Most of us don't want to increase the debt ceiling.

However, however, it became an argument last night, about that specifically.

Which distracts from what I think is the bigger pictures.

The bigger picture being for a long time in Washington, DC, and Congress. The people who have said they were fiscally conservative. Haven't been effective in making that happen or making cuts.

What Donald Trump did, is he hired what he considered to be the most brilliant man in our country to say, retool this process and do it better.

Elon Musk came in. With DOGE. And said, what we're going to do is be transparent with you.

We will tell you exactly what your tax money is being spent on.

Then we will leave it to you, to lobby your congressional members to cut that.

And, Glenn, that's exactly what happened this time.

We looked at that 1500-page bill that Speaker Johnson had put forward.

We identified five or six things in that bill. Said no. And effectively, we were victorious.
We got that bill killed. Which is, I think very exciting.

GLENN: Right.

LIZ: And then we had this clean version. And then that's when --

GLENN: Yeah. That's -- because -- because there are -- and I am one of them.

They have been so tired of, oh. We're going to raise the debt.

But then we're going to cut. I don't believe anybody in Washington.

However, I do believe Donald Trump. I do believe Elon Musk. I do believe Vivek Ramaswamy.

I do believe just for survival reasons alone, Donald Trump has got to take a hatchet to the size of this government.

Okay?

So let's just look at it from I will be killed. Or I will be thwarted, by this giant government.

And I've got to reduce the size, so it doesn't have octopus arms everywhere, trying to choke me out.

So I believe that he wants to cut the size of government, and I believe he has a plan to do it.

I believe that Elon Musk is a guy. I mean, Donald Trump got famous for saying, you're fired.

Elon Musk is famous for actually firing people.

And cutting all of the nonessential.

So those two together. Have reasons.

One is, hey. This just needs to run like a sound operation.

And the other one is that, plus, oh, and it's trying to kill me.

So I believe they're incentivized unlike anyone else in my lifetime, to cut the size of the government.

Donald Trump, to me, and I love Chip Roy.

I love him. I hope he replaces John Cornyn. I love him.

However, at this point, I believe Donald Trump should be given the benefit of the doubt, for this reason.

He's got to do. If he wants to fix America, and make it truly great. He can't do what the Democrats have done.

And that is just, start spending money like arise. And pushing money out the door. He's got to return the money to you.

So he has to have these tax cuts. And he has to have them right now.

When he walks through the door, he has to have them.

So you're going to have this period, where you're flipping the entire company of the United States the government, upside down.

You're in a transition period. And so we're going to need to spend more, as we cut more.

But you can't -- you cannot shut off the debt. We're a trillion dollars. Every 100 -- I'm sorry. Not a trillion.

Yeah. A trillion dollars, every 100 days.

A trillion, every 100 days!

We're a trillion dollars a year, just in interest now.

You can't -- 5 trillion is not a lot, when you're playing with these numbers.

It's obscene to even say that!

We have to cut trillions out.

But Donald Trump to be able to pull this off, he has got to make people's lives better, quickly.

And the two ways to do it, is to first return money to the people, ask. Then to make it actually last, cut all of the regulation. And all of the size of the government.

That one, we don't want to be fighting two battles. We want to fight one battle.

And in my opinion, Donald Trump has shown me, he's willing to take a bullet for the Constitution and the United States and for us.

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, coupled with Elon Musk, because I believe their intentions are aligned with my intentions and desires.

Does that make sense?

LIZ: Yeah. I think that's right. Like I said, it's a funny situation. Because they're both right. Chip Roy is correct in principle that we should cut spending. And Donald Trump and Elon Musk are correct in practice.

GLENN: It's timing. It's just time.

LIZ: It is timing. They actually are both going to achieve -- or they hope to achieve the same thing.

I concur with your analysis. I have hope that Donald Trump is -- I mean, he's a changed man.
We've all seen this, since he took a bullet to the ear.

He's viewing his own world differently. He's viewing his duty to us, differently.

He's viewing his stewardship of our country, differently. He is doing something groundbreaking.

He is upending, disrupting the process this Congress, that has been business as usual.

And it can be messy. And maybe not everyone in Congress, even if they're principally correct, has quite grasped. Oh, this is the new way, we will do things.

I think Donald Trump has this right.

STU: Yeah. I do too. And I think the Republicans -- the fiscally responsible Republicans.

And it could turn out, you're right and I'm wrong.

But I really, truly believe disruption is where we're going.

And this -- this did disrupt.

And if we don't all stand together, they will disrupt us.

And I am not one to believe that the spending is going to magically go down.

I don't believe that. But if you were a family, and you were a business, and you were running debt, and you just didn't want -- you didn't know what to do. How do I stop the hemorrhaging?

Who in the world would be the best adviser that you could get?

Who in the world could you say, I need somebody to look at all these finances. Figure out what's what.

And how to cut. And how to make my business stronger.

I can't imagine anyone better than Elon Musk. So let's listen to Elon and Donald Trump. And, by the way, if anybody thinks Elon is taking over. Did you read how the tweets are coming out?

He went to Donald Trump. Trump and the vice president were working together, on a statement.

And Elon came in and said, hey. I want to release this.

Is it okay if I release this?

And Donald Trump read it, and said, yeah. Go for it.

That's where we are. Go for it.

So Elon is not leading the president.

Believe me, the president has a plan.

Let's give him all the opportunities we can, to let him execute it.

Because we've all come up with other plans. And none of them have worked.

This one has as many of the best minds in the world on it.

Let's let them do their job.

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Meet the pro-Intifada candidate NYC Democrats just elected

New York City Democrats just elected 33-year-old Zohran Mamdani, a "socialist Muslim", as the Party's candidate for mayor. But Glenn Beck argues that his radical beliefs are actually communist and Islamist.

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VOICE: Z10852. Something weird is going on. The World Trade Center is on fire.

VOICE: Seriously the top of the building. We're trying to get information.

VOICE: Top level of one of the --

VOICE: To unfold from New York City.

VOICE: A plane crashed just --

VOICE: My sister is in that believe. I hope she's okay. I have to come to New York.

VOICE: It's pandemonium.

VOICE: It's raining papers.

VOICE: Wait a minute! Stop just a second. Why are we -- why are we -- I've got breaking news. Breaking news, yesterday. New York City just elected as their mayoral candidate for the left. And the Democrats, a -- a Muslim radical, who is also a communist!

So, you know, it only took you 25 years. It only took you 25 years, New York, to go completely insane.

Somebody who is -- well, I mean, if I might quote Michael malice today. I am old enough to remember when New Yorkers endured 9/11 instead of voting for it.

But you've got a -- you've got a communist jihadist apologist now.

Who was -- you know, well, CAIR put $100,000 behind his bid for New York City mayor.

So you have somebody who is endorsed by CAIR. That's really good.

He also was somebody who said, you know, he was -- he was for the shooting of the United Health Care CEO.

Said he was looking forward to driving down magnum Joan avenue. I don't know. Sounds like supporting people in the streets. Maybe it's just me.

Then he also said that he was going to globalize the intifada, which I think that's -- maybe -- maybe that's just me.

I mean, what do I know?

Tim Miller who is a podcaster. Asked him a few weeks ago. Asked him about his pro Palestinian slogan. Globalized the intifada. And he said, for me, ultimately, what I hear in so many, is a desperate desire for equality and equal rights, in standing up for Palistinian human rights. Oh, is that what you hear, Mr. CAIR?

Really? Huh, that's interesting.

Right. So globalize the intifada.

I mean, I mean, sure, that's -- I mean well, let me go on.

Because I don't want to take him out of context.

He then delved into the semantics of the intifada, citing the United States Holocaust memorial museum's use of a word for a translation for uprising, in an Arabic version of an article, a museum published about the Warsaw ghetto.

Oh!

So this is just a comparison, about the -- the armed rebellion against the Nazis!

I don't know if that makes me feel better!

I mean, if we're globalizing that.

We're the Nazis in this scenario.

Because I don't think it's the Palestinians.

I certainly don't think it's anybody who is like, hey.

Global jihad. I don't think it's those guys.

Or the Nazis. Who are the Nazis in that?

And it seems, if that's what you mean, then it's not just a harmless kind of slogan about human rights. It is a call for violence on the streets.

Because I don't know if you know, that's what happened when the Jews had their uprising against the Nazis.

I'm just saying!

But, hey, hey, free Palestine.

Oh, that's not what that means, gang. That is not what that means, but don't worry about it. He's just going to be possibly the new mayor.

And that's great. By the way, the Columbia faculty members signed a letter defending Hamas.

They were also among the donors to his mayoral campaign.

So, you know, you don't have anything to worry about.

And his father, who used to work at Columbia. Do you know, Stu?

Is his Dad -- is he still a professor at Columbia University?

He said that -- this violent terror thing of Islam, is not a part of Islam. Now, I've read the Koran, and much of the hadith.

And I'm pretty sure the violence is a part of that. But no.

No. This is something entirely new.

And his father while at Columbia university, wanted everybody to know, that this is actually -- this is something that came out of America!

America is really responsible for this.

And, you know, it really started with the Reagan administration, you know, when he started -- when he started with his very religious terms, to finish the war against the evil empire.

So, you know, that's where -- that's where 9/11 came from.

Is what -- don't worry about it! Don't worry about it!

Because who am I? I'm clearly just -- am I an anti-Semite today, or am I an Islamophobic? I can't remember which one.

Oh, it's probably both. Anyway, Islamophobia. Let me just explain Islamophobia. I haven't even gotten to the Communist part of it. Which is really, really -- New York, you're in one for hell of a ride. Buckle up.

It will be a fun rollercoaster for you. My gosh, I've never been happier that I've been away are if New York.

Anyway, I just want I to know, there is Islam. And then there is Islamists. Now, an Islamist is somebody who really wants Sharia law.

That's political Islam!

That's not a faith. That's political Islam.

Now, let me make really -- something really clear. Criticizing Islamism, is not Islamophobia. Pointing out the dangers of, oh. I don't know.

Political Islam. The ideology that seeks to use the tools of democracy, ultimately to destroy democracy, is not an attack on Muslims.

No. Uh-uh.

You know why?

Because Muslims are often the first people in line.

The first victims of the ideology.

So let's draw a bright, bright line between Islam as a faith, millions of people can practice that faithfully and peacefully.

It's mostly peaceful, okay?

Then there's the Islamism.

Islamism is something entirely -- that's a political project.

A theocratic political -- oh. Left loves theocracies. They love it.

Of course, you never see a problem with it.

See it when an Islamist is touting it. Anyway, it's not about prayer. It's not about fasting. It's not about spiritual life.

It's all about power. It's about merging of mosque and state. It's about implementing Sharia, not as a personal code of conduct. But as a governing legal system.

And it's -- it's supremacy.

Absolutely. Faith.

Religion.

It's -- there's one thing that's supreme.

It's misogynistic.

Deeply intolerant of all kinds of things.

Descent. Secularism. Other faiths. Even competing interpretations from inside the faith itself.

It will behead them too.

So let's -- let's be honest here for a second.

You know, CAIR should be labeled an international terror organization.

In my opinion. In my opinion.

Oh, does that make me -- that makes me an Islamophobe. I'm sure. I'm sure they will start a campaign against me on being an Islamophobe.

Stand in line, guys. You've been doing it since 2001, okay?

I don't really care. And I don't think the American people. I think that record, all the grooves are worn-out on that one, okay?

This is not a religion we're talking about. When we're talking about Sharia law. And we're talking about globalize the intifada. What does that mean, actually, to globalize it?

Does that mean we now want to do what is happening to Israel? All over the world?

Has the Palestinian plight become our plight you now, as Americans?

That there has to be an intifada here!

Because it's the kind of the same. You know. It's kind of the same over, you know, with what the Palestinians are going through.

Well, it's very much like what the Jews went through with the Nazis.

That's a weird one. That one makes my head hurt. It's very much the same as that. And very much the same as the fight against Donald Trump.

Oh, this is going to be fun. It's fun!

Really fun. You know, the irony here is, the ones that will scream Islamophobia the most, are the ones in the progressive left, the champions of feminism, LGBTQ rights. And secularism.

They're going to -- no. You want -- they're going to stand with the people, who want to kill them first.

See, this is how smart they are!

This is why it's going to work out well, in New York City.

Let me just say. If you have an ounce of common sense, you run a business, you have an ounce of wealth. And I don't mean wealth like, you know, hey, Lovey.

Let's get on the boat for a three-hour tour with a suitcase full of cash. I mean you saved anything, anything, get the hell out of New York City.

I mean, this is about survival. This is about free speech. This is about women's rights.
Religious pluralism. Secular legal systems. Liberal democracy.

But it's also about failed principles of Communism. Okay?

First, you have to call out political Islam for what it is. Okay?

And we have to do it with the clarity that we call out white nationalism.

Got to do it with that. Got to -- you know, the Klan. Really bad people.

Really bad people.

Anybody who is shouting for globalized intifada?

Pretty bad. Pretty bad people.

Okay?

Now, let's get to communism.

Because that's another cool, cool angle of the new Democratic candidate for -- for mayor of New York City.

That I just -- I think is cuddly and cute. Sure, it led to 100 million deaths. But this time, New York is going to be radically different. Oh, did I use the word radical?

I didn't mean to use that. What's radical about this guy?

Nothing. He's just like you!

Well, not exactly.

But let's talk about communism, next!

Now, the new mayoral candidate that's running there in New York City. That so many young people rushed to defend and vote for. He's promising free buses.

That's going to work out.

Where are you going to get the money for free buses.

It's free!

City-run grocery stores.

Oh, rent freezes. And finally somebody has done it. A 30-dollar minimum wage.

So under the banner of equity. And, you know, we will tax the wealthy. And the corporations. You know, we're going to squeeze another $10 billion out of them.

Really?

Because they're going to call a U-Haul.

You know, they will call something like U-Haul. There will be a lot of -- there will be a lot of movers that are like, how do I get the truck back from Texas or Florida back up to New York? Nobody is moving up there.

But he's going to do it.

Now, his vision isn't really new. You know, just -- just tax people, so we could have city-run grocery stores. You know, I remember -- I'm old enough to remember those city-run grocery stores in Moscow.

They were great.

The shelves were empty.

But that's just Moscow.

It worked out completely different in Venezuela.

Where, oh, no.

It didn't. That's right. The grocery store.

They were eating the zoo animals.

But it will be different in New York.

Because they have rent controls too.

And that will just choke the housing supply, but don't worry. As a young family.

You know, you voted for it.

You know better.

It will work this time.

So, you know, I like building ideas, I just don't like usually building on the graves of 100 million people.

But, you know, why not? Why not?

You know, use this dogma.

And this time, it will be different. It's not like it was in China. Where the great leap forward, was a gross -- a gross parody of progress. Venezuela, which was oil rich. One of the richest nations in the hemisphere now sees 90 percent of its population in poverty!

Yeah. Darn it. You know what they did?

They decided to take state control of things.

You know, like grocery stores. And it worked out well. How is that free busing working out in Venezuela?

I just want to -- I just want to know.

Anyway, then you've got the globalize the intifada. Which is going to drop a little violence in, and anti-Semitism in with your communism.

Which is weird!

Because violence and anti-Semitism, always happen. When it -- when it comes to -- when it comes to communism.

This is weird!

I've got to play something for you. Because this has talked about on me earlier this morning.

Oh, wow.

Wait a minute. This is -- this is the whole coalition coming together here.

So this is going to be good. New York, this is going to be great.

It's going to be great for you.

No. He's going to uplift you. Then the social fabric of New York City is just going to be -- just one.

It's going to be fantastic. Don't worry about your 120 billion dollars in debt. Or your 10 billion-dollar deficit that you have right now.

You are going to charge the rich more taxes, and they will stay right there.

They will be like, you know what, that 46 percent in taxes that I'm paying, this is just not enough. It's just not enough.

I need to pay 60 or 70 percent to be able to pay my fair share. So that's good. That's good. That's good.

You know, they're not risking 100 million people. It's just 8 million people.

This time, it's just 8 million people.

But, hey. For those of you in upstate New York. That aren't going to be part of this experiment.

Don't worry, you get to pay for it. Because they'll kick it up to the state. The state will have to subsidize everything. And don't you love it?

Really, don't you want to subsidize the really crazy ideas of New York City?

I mean, why don't you have a -- why don't you have a democratic socialist. A/k/a communist mayor.

Why haven't you done that? Are you not progressive enough? Are you not looking into the future?

Are you stuck in the past?

I don't know. I don't know. The graveyard is pretty big. I have a hard time getting past that one. You know, yeah, so I'm stuck in the past. Because I can't seem to pass that graveyard, and get to be down the path with you. But it's going to be a paradise.

Forget arithmetic. You know, or human nature. This time, it's going to work. It's going to work. So all right!

Wish I lived in this morning.

No wait. Nope. I don't. Nope, I don't.

And Ted Cruz, stop it. Stop writing, hey, come to Texas. No. No. Don't come to Texas. Don't come to Florida. Go to California. It's beautiful this time of year. Go there. Go there.