RADIONovember 15, 2023

Survivor of Mao's China WARNS America is falling for the SAME tricks

As Chinese president and communist dictator Xi Jinping visits San Francisco, Glenn speaks with a survivor of Mao's cultural revolution who is warning Americans about what's to come. "Mao's America: A Survivor's Warning" author Xi Van Fleet believes that "wokeism is Maoism with American characteristics." When she sees California Democrats praising communist China, she believes they want the same control, but are just using different methods to achieve it: "We fell for it in China. We got slavery," she warns. Plus, she gives her message to San Franciscans welcoming Xi Jinping with the Chinese flag: "Where are the social justice warrior protesters against the genocide by Xi Jinping of the Uighurs in China? They're not to be found."

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GLENN: There is -- you know, Xi Jinping is now in San Francisco. Because we cleaned it up for him, so it's nice.

What's happening in our country is truly frightening. We're doing things that I've never seen ever in America before. And that's one of them.

Xi Van Fleet is somebody who grew up in Communist China. She lived through the horrors of the cultural revolution. She was a schoolgirl. And she was forced into the countryside, along with the other young Chinese for reeducation after high school. She escaped communism. Came to America.

30 years later, she sees the signs, that are exactly the same as Mao's Marxist cultural revolution.

She's just written a new book, called Mao's America.

A survivor's warning. Xi, welcome to the program.

XI: Thank you so much for having me back.

GLENN: Oh, you're welcome. I -- I like talking to people who lived in communism or under dictators. Because they have completely clear eyes on what we are seeing today.

XI: Yes! Yes.

GLENN: You say that wokism is Maoism with American characteristics. What does that mean?

XI: That's what I mean. What you just said, that things are happening here. That have never before.

It's because you -- like many, many Americans, don't know what happened in China. And what happened in cultural revolution.

And we know, because we lived through it. And that's exactly the same thing. Why I say, Maoism is American characteristics. It's the same thing.

The identical -- identity politics, cancel culture. Weaponization of young people. Indoctrination in school.

All this happened in China, and happened to me.

And it's a little different here is that in China. Mao used class to divide people. And divide people into red class, and a black class.

Basically, one is the enemy of the state.

And one is the ally of the -- the government, and the party.

And here, they use something different.

They use red. And they use candor. They use sexuality. And it looks like it's different. But it's the same. It's indoctrination of children. It's exactly the same.

GLENN: Well, this is something that the communists learned in the 1960s, when honestly The Beatles song Revolution came out and said, if you're walking around with the posters of Chairman Mao, nobody will listen to you anyhow. And they realized that class would not do it in America. They had to do it based on race.

But tell me about the four Olds. I don't think most people understand this.

And this to me, shows how close it is to the Chinese cultural revolution.

XI: That is the Chinese-style cancel culture. And they are very specific.

It is the old culture. Old idea. Old habits. And old customs.

Those things, to be eradicated. To get rid of, to be destroyed.

Statues. Names of streets. Names of stores.

Names of food labels. Names of institutes. All has to be changed.

To be politically correct.

Why do they do that?

Why do they do cancel culture?

Because they want to replace the transition with something new.

And in China, that is Maoism, and here is Maoism with American characteristics.

GLENN: So Mao was much more open about what he was bringing in. Wasn't he?

I mean, here, they keep denying, any of this is happening.

And it's all there. We can see it. But they deny it. Mao was open in saying, this is what the new China will look like.

XI: Yes. And that's the -- the part that is very deceptive. Mao had power.

What he was doing, is to have absolute power.

He was -- he feels that he was losing control of the party. But he was in control. So he had to -- he can't be open about many, many things. But here, they have to -- they have to hide their true intentions. They use this very well, very attractive slogans. And then a lot of people fall for it.

And that is the problem.

With Marxism.

And I'll give you a beautiful picture of what it stands for.

And people don't know.

They fall for it.

And I tell people, we fell for it too.

In China, and what did we get?

We got slavery. And we got really the absolute tyranny. And that's what's going to happen here. So people, wake up!

And how you wake up. Not to find out yourself. If you find out yourself, that will be too late. And I hope they're wise enough to hear from people like me, who lived through it.

And then really learned from history.

And that's what we don't have here.

GLENN: So people -- help us out on this.

Because I think Antifa. BLM. Social justice warriors on the campus, et cetera, et cetera.

I think those are like the brown shirts. Or the Red Guards. From China.

But people will say, no. These are just honest people trying to X, Y, Z.

What is the difference between BLM and Antifa? And the social justice warriors.

And the Red Guards.

XI: Yeah. No difference. Because they're all indoctrinated to believe what they are told.

And I told Red Guards, you think they're dismounters? No. They were -- a lot of them from elite universities and -- and -- and middle schools.

And they're from wealth. They're from families.

They were not monsters. But they turned into monsters because of indoctrination.

The first killing, that took place during the Cultural Revolution was downed by a group of young girls in the most prodigious middle school in Beijing. And they were like 12 to 16.

They beat and tortured and killed their principals.

And there's no consequence. And after that, killing becomes commonplace.

And why will they go after the teachers?

Because they were told, those need control. And those need power. Were the ones, who want to take us back to the capitalism.

And so for -- for young kids, what are -- the people in power. They're teachers. They're principals.

So they were the ones -- the first ones to be the targets.

GLENN: So here in America, you just said, they didn't -- they weren't -- they weren't held, and they paid no price for it.

Here in America our justice system has been completely dismantled. You know, defund the police. All of this stuff.

Crime is on the rise. It doesn't seem like anybody is punished.

If you're on the right side, you're not punished.

In China, did they do the same thing?

Did they dismantle the justice system and the police?

XI: Yeah. That's called smashing the system. The whole justice system, including the police and the court were dismantled. So there's no consequence.

No one can stop. They're there to challenge the red guard.

And the Chinese version of defund the police.

GLENN: So Xi, I have been -- I have been talking about this coming for two decades almost now.

XI: I know.

GLENN: And it is now here. How much time do we have?

What period is this like in China? How far away from losing it, are we?

XI: We're very, very close. Actually, we are losing -- but I do think that there is a hope.

And I -- just three years ago, I was a quiet, shy Asian-American. I don't share my opinion with people.

You know, I was just quiet.

I became a voice. And because I know, if I don't speak up. And stand out.

To fight back, we will lose our country. And I don't want to live under communism again.

During my speeches across the country, and there's all sorts of people. Parents, just like me.

Three years ago, they required to never pay attention to the school board.

They never got involved in local politics. Or any politics.

I met so many of them. Now they're committed. Because they are waking up. They are committed. And so that's our hope.

And that's exactly how we save this country. We have to be --

GLENN: Did those people exist in China?

XI: No.

Because at that -- no. If you do that, it's too late.

Because those people don't exist. Because you can only find them in prisons. In gulags, or in the graves.

GLENN: Xi, I can't thank you enough. What do you think just on another subject, what do you think of President Xi's trip to San Francisco, and how San Francisco cleaned itself up for that?

XI: I know. I just read about it, and they have people welcoming him with -- with Chinese flag. Which to me, that is a murderous flag.

GLENN: Hmm.

XI: And I said, where are the social justice warrior protesters against the genocide by Xi Jinping, of Muslims in China. Where are they?

GLENN: They're not to be found.

XI: They're not to be found, exactly.

GLENN: Not to be found. Thank you so much, Xi.

I appreciate it. Xi Van Fleet. The name of her book is Mao's America: A Survivor's Warning.

She compares the cultural revolution to the cultural revolution here in America to the Chinese one.

And it is well worth a read. And share with somebody that you know, who maybe has a possibility of waking up.

By the way, she was at the pro-Israel rally yesterday in DC. So thank you so much.

Xi Van Fleet. Mao's America.

Could passengers have SAVED Iryna Zarutska?

Surveillance footage of the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, NC, reveals that the other passengers on the train took a long time to help her. Glenn, Stu, and Jason debate whether they were right or wrong to do so.

Transcript

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GLENN: You know, I'm -- I'm torn on how I feel about the people on the train.

Because my first instinct is, they did nothing! They did nothing! Then my -- well, sit down and, you know -- you know, you're going to be judged. So be careful on judging others.

What would I have done? What would I want my wife to do in that situation?

STU: Yeah. Are those two different questions, by the way.

GLENN: Yeah, they are.

STU: I think they go far apart from each other. What would I want myself to do. I mean, it's tough to put yourself in a situation. It's very easy to watch a video on the internet and talk about your heroism. Everybody can do that very easily on Twitter. And everybody is.

You know, when you're in a vehicle that doesn't have an exit with a guy who just murdered somebody in front of you, and has a dripping blood off of a knife that's standing 10 feet away from you, 15 feet away from you.

There's probably a different standard there, that we should all kind of consider. And maybe give a little grace to what I saw at least was a woman, sitting across the -- the -- the aisle.

I think there is a difference there. But when you talk about that question. Those two questions are definitive.

You know, I know what I would want myself to do. I would hope I would act in a way that didn't completely embarrass myself afterward.

But I also think, when I'm thinking of my wife. My advice to my wife would not be to jump into the middle of that situation at all costs. She might do that anyway. She actually is a heck of a lot stronger than I am.

But she might do it anyway.

GLENN: How pathetic, but how true.

STU: Yes. But that would not be my advice to her.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Now, maybe once the guy has certainly -- is out of the area. And you don't think the moment you step into that situation. He will turn around and kill you too. Then, of course, obviously. Anything you can do to step in.

Not that there was much anyone on the train could do.

I mean, I don't think there was an outcome change, no matter what anyone on that train did.

Unfortunately.

But would I want her to step in?

Of course. If she felt she was safe, yes.

Think about, you said, your wife. Think about your daughter. Your daughter is on that train, just watching someone else getting murdered like that. Would you advise your daughter to jump into a situation like that?

That girl sitting across the aisle was somebody's daughter. I don't know, man.

JASON: I would. You know, as a dad, would I advise.

Hmm. No.

As a human being, would I hope that my daughter or my wife or that I would get up and at least comfort that woman while she's dying on the floor of a train?

Yeah.

I would hope that my daughter, my son, that I would -- and, you know, I have more confidence in my son or daughter or my wife doing something courageous more than I would.

But, you know, I think I have a more realistic picture of myself than anybody else.

And I'm not sure that -- I'm not sure what I would do in that situation. I know what I would hope I would do. But I also know what I fear I would do. But I would have hoped that I would have gotten up and at least tried to help her. You know, help her up off the floor. At least be there with her, as she's seeing her life, you know, spill out in under a minute.

And that's it other thing we have to keep in mind. This all happened so rapidly.

A minute is -- will seem like a very long period of time in that situation. But it's a very short period of time in real life.

STU: Yeah. You watch the video, Glenn. You know, I don't need the video to -- to change my -- my position on this.

But at his seem like there was a -- someone who did get there, eventually, to help, right? I saw someone seemingly trying to put pressure on her neck.

GLENN: Yeah. And tried to give her CPR.

STU: You know, no hope at that point. How long of a time period would you say that was?

Do you know off the top of your head?

GLENN: I don't know. I don't know. I know that we watched the video that I saw. I haven't seen past 30 seconds after she --

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: -- is down. And, you know, for 30 seconds nothing is happening. You know, that is -- that is not a very long period of time.

STU: Right.

GLENN: In reality.

STU: And especially, I saw the pace he was walking. He certainly can't be -- you know, he may have left the actual train car by 30 seconds to a minute. But he wasn't that far away. Like he was still in visual.

He could still turn around and look and see what's going on at that point. So certainly still a threat is my point. He has not, like, left the area. This is not that type of situation.

You know, I -- look, as you point out, I think if I could be super duper sexist for a moment here, sort of my dividing line might just be men and women.

You know, I don't know if it's that a -- you're not supposed to say that, I suppose these days. But, like, there is a difference there. If I'm a man, you know, I would be -- I would want my son to jump in on that, I suppose. I don't know if he could do anything about it. But you would expect at least a grown man to be able to go in there and do something about it. A woman, you know, I don't know.

Maybe I'm -- I hope --

GLENN: Here's the thing I -- here's the thing that I -- that causes me to say, no. You should have jumped in.

And that is, you know, you've already killed one person on the train. So you've proven that you're a killer. And anybody who would have screamed and got up and was with her, she's dying. She's dying. Get him. Get him.

Then the whole train is responsible for stopping that guy. You know. And if you don't stop him, after he's killed one person, if you're not all as members of that train, if you're not stopping him, you know, the person at the side of that girl would be the least likely to be killed. It would be the ones that are standing you up and trying to stop him from getting back to your daughter or your wife or you.

JASON: There was a -- speaking of men and women and their roles in this. There was a video circling social media yesterday. In Sweden. There was a group of officials up on a stage. And one of the main. I think it was health official woman collapses on stage. Completely passes out.

All the men kind of look away. Or I don't know if they're looking away. Or pretending that they didn't know what was going on. There was another woman standing directly behind the woman passed out.

Immediately springs into action. Jumps on top. Grabs her pant leg. Grabs her shoulder. Spins her over and starts providing care.

What did she have that the other guys did not? Or women?

She was a sheepdog. There is a -- this is my issue. And I completely agree with Stu. I completely agree with you. There's some people that do not respond this way. My issue is the proportion of sheepdogs versus people that don't really know how to act. That is diminishing in western society. And American society.

We see it all the time in these critical actions. I mean, circumstances.

There are men and women, and it's actually a meme. That fantasize about hoards of people coming to attack their home and family. And they sit there and say, I've got it. You guys go. I'm staying behind, while I smoke my cigarette and wait for the hoards to come, because I will sacrifice myself. There are men and women that fantasize of block my highway. Go ahead. Block my highway. I'm going to do something about it. They fantasize about someone holding up -- not a liquor store. A convenience store or something. Because they will step in and do something. My issue now is that proportion of sheepdogs in society is disappearing. Just on statistical fact, there should be one within that train car, and there were none.

STU: Yeah. I mean --

JASON: They did not respond.

STU: We see what happens when they do, with Daniel Penny. Our society tries to vilify them and crush their existence. Now, there weren't that many people on that train. Right?

At least on that car. At least it's limited. I only saw three or four people there, there may have been more. I agree with you, though. Like, you see what happens when we actually do have a really recent example of someone doing exactly what Jason wants and what I would want a guy to do. Especially a marine to step up and stop this from happening. And the man was dragged by our legal system to a position where he nearly had to spend the rest of his life in prison.

I mean, I -- it's insanity. Thankfully, they came to their senses on that one.

GLENN: Well, the difference between that one and this one though is that the guy was threatening. This one, he killed somebody.

STU: Yeah. Right. Well, but -- I think -- but it's the opposite way. The debate with Penny, was should he have recognize that had this person might have just been crazy and not done anything?

Maybe. He hadn't actually acted yet. He was just saying things.

GLENN: Yeah. Well --

STU: He didn't wind up stabbing someone. This is a situation where these people have already seen what this man will do to you, even when you don't do anything to try to stop him. So if this woman, who is, again, looks to be an average American woman.

Across the aisle. Steps in and tries to do something. This guy could easily turn around and just make another pile of dead bodies next to the one that already exists.

And, you know, whether that is an optimal solution for our society, I don't know that that's helpful.

In that situation.

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Max Lucado on Overcoming Grief in Dark Times | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 266

Disclaimer: This episode was filmed prior to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But Glenn believes Max's message is needed now more than ever.
The political world is divided, constantly at war with itself. In many ways, our own lives are not much different. Why do we constantly focus on the negative? Why are we in pain? Where is God amid our anxiety and fear? Why can’t we ever seem to change? Pastor Max Lucado has found the solution: Stop thinking like that! It may seem easier said than done, but Max joins Glenn Beck to unpack the three tools he describes in his new book, “Tame Your Thoughts,” that make it easy for us to reset the way we think back to God’s factory settings. In this much-needed conversation, Max and Glenn tackle everything from feeling doubt as a parent to facing unfair hardships to ... UFOs?! Plus, Max shares what he recently got tattooed on his arm.

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Are Demonic Forces to Blame for Charlie Kirk, Minnesota & Charlotte Killings?

This week has seen some of the most heinous actions in recent memory. Glenn has been discussing the growth of evil in our society, and with the assassination of civil rights leader Charlie Kirk, the recent transgender shooter who took the lives of two children at a Catholic school, and the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska, how can we make sense of all this evil? On today's Friday Exclusive, Glenn speaks with BlazeTV host of "Strange Encounters" Rick Burgess to discuss the demon-possessed transgender shooter and the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk. Rick breaks down the reality of demon possession and how individuals wind up possessed. Rick and Glenn also discuss the dangers of the grotesque things we see online and in movies, TV shows, and video games on a daily basis. Rick warns that when we allow our minds to be altered by substances like drugs or alcohol, it opens a door for the enemy to take control. A supernatural war is waging in our society, and it’s a Christian’s job to fight this war. Glenn and Rick remind Christians of what their first citizenship is.