RADIOJune 10, 2025

EXPOSED: Your tax dollars FUNDING LA riots and radical NGOs

The riots in Los Angeles aren’t “grassroots” and “spontaneous,” despite what the mainstream media claims. Glenn Beck reviews the findings of civil liberty attorney Laura Powell, which expose the radical leftist NGO network that’s funding these protests… with YOUR tax dollars.

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GLENN: All right. If you're a Californian, the current LA riots are example -- is an example of your tax dollars at work.

Here's why I can say that with real confidence.

Let's start here. The coalition for human immigrant rights, CHIRLA. C-H-I-R-L-A. One of the key players in fomenting the violent response to immigration enforcement over the weekend.

Last hour, if you missed any of today's podcast, make sure you go back and listen. Last hour, I went through who these people were, that we rounded up.

They were violent extremists, rapists. Burglars.

People that have beaten up their wives. Doing cruel things to children.

You name it!

That's who this is all really about. Okay?

This is not about scooping people up in the middle of the night.

So who are -- who is CHIRLA? Well, it's an LA-based nonprofit. They take radical positions on immigration. For example, it led the 2018 campaign to abolish ICE.

It currently leads the Los Angeles rapid response network, which gathers Intel about enforcement actions, and deploys activists to respond. So, in other words, to put our police officers and ICE federal agents in danger, by exposing them, in advance!

They also have strong ties to the Democrat Party. In California.

They have supported the election of Democrat can see, throughout its lobbying arm. And throughout its history.

It has a really close relationship with Los Angeles mayor Karen Bass.

The organization also has a close relationship with organized labor in the state.

Hmm. Now, wait a minute.

You don't mean like SEIU.

I'll have Jason give me an update on SEIU. The head guy of SEIU.

If you followed me back when we were on Fox. Back in those days on radio. You know the role of SEIU, and how bad this organization really is.

They are -- I believe, they are just insurrectionists through and through.

Communists through and through.

But that's my opinion. The organization also has a close relationship with the organized labors.

Which in turn, they become a major financial supporter of democratic politicians. On Friday, CHIRLA held a rally protesting ISIS enforcement actions and the arrest of the SEIU president for obstruction.

Now, the incredible part is that CHIRLA's activities are primarily funded by you, if you are a taxpayer in California!

We have obtained a financial audits, shows that for fiscal year ending 2023, $34 million from the state, mostly through the department of social services, accounts for 72 percent of the total revenue.

This is nearly a three-fold increase over the previous year.

Now, all of this information is coming from -- what's her name? Laura Powell. She is the -- what is her handle?

G.O.P. --

VOICE: She's a civil liberties attorney. In California.

GLENN: Okay.

They also received 450,000 dollars in federal contract, in 2023.

Which Mayor Bass publicly took credit for on helping to secure. DHS froze funding in February, which prompted a lawsuit from CHIRLA, so the DHS was also funding this group. DHS then cancelled the contract.

Lawsuit was then dismissed. This is the military, educational industrial complex. All of this stuff.

This is a nonprofit industrial complex. Eisenhower did not include the nonprofit industrial complex. Because we hadn't really thought of it yet back in the '50s.

But that's exactly what is going on here.

Now, there are other people involved. If you -- if you are in doubt at all, on what is actually happening in California, I want you to listen this week.

Because this week and on Wednesday. Our Wednesday TV show. I will go through all of this.

I want you to have a friend watch it. Somebody who is not completely lost. But still maybe a little confused.

They must understand what they're seeing is a show. This is all planned. This has nothing to do with Trump.

This has nothing to do with illegals that are here, that are good families. It has nothing to do with this.

This is about a Colour Revolution.

Now, let me tell you about one of the guys involved in this. He's a billionaire from America.

Neville Roy Singham. He's kind of a mysterious figure that made a lot of his fortune in part, due to his ties with Communist China.

He now lives in China, and has emerged now as a key funder of the radical groups inside the United States, that are pushing for the violent protests.

And he's got a very strict pro-Beijing kind of script. He made his wealth by selling IT software business to an investment firm, partially owned by the Communist Party in China. He is a major funder of a group called the people's forum.

Hmm.

The people's forum. They're not hiding in plain sight there.

Blow are excerpts of a very long exposé, that Just the News published this year. Hang on, I'm just reading my notes from Jason. Meet the pro-CCP Marxist revolutionary group behind the Muhammad Kahlil protests of 3/20/2025.

Jason, remind me who Muhammad -- or, Mahmoud Khalil is. He was the guy, Columbia University that set all that off. Give us a quick thumbnail of him.

JASON: I would say, yeah, he was one of the central figures, when they were shutting down Columbia.

There's a much larger group, which we will employ later, that were doing this thing called shut it down for Palestine.

Again, another tie to socialists, Marxists, for some weird, odd reason.

Heavy focus on Maoism in particular.

GLENN: Of course.

JASON: But, yeah, that's who that guy was. And that's also who the Trump administration was looking to deport.

GLENN: So the people's forum has been a driving force behind the protests condemning the detention and possible deportation of the pro-Palestinian Columbia graduate student Muhammad Kahlil.

There are scores of videos, posted by the forum on social media, detailing the group's role in organizing, promoting, attending, and leading all the pro-Kahlil protests. They get to rally outside the courthouse.

They did a sit-in at Trump Tower. Kahlil's legal team has addressed the crowd, in a protest organized by the forum.

This is -- this is all from that American billionaire that now lives in China.

The -- the forum is led by a guy named Milano Delos Santos.

And I'm saying that as white as a white man could possibly say it. Because that's who I am.

Also, personally tweeted multiple times to promote the forum-led protest for Kahlil.

Major patron for the people's forum is the Communist businessman Neville Roy Singham. For months, we have been the target of a campaign that alleges our funding comes from dark money.

A few years ago, we met Roy Singham, a Marxist comrade who sold his company and donated most of his wealth to nonprofits that focus on political education, culture, and internationalism. This is from the people's forum.

Singham married Jodi Evans. Who is Jodi Evans?

Well, she's the cofounder of the radical left-wing group Code Pink. Her group touts itself as anti-war, but also very pro-China. And very pro -- very anti-real, pro-strangely -- pro-Islamists.

The New York Times reported that Singham works in Shanghai, that his efforts are linked to the Chinese Communist Party. This is from the New York Times.

That he has attended at least one CCP workshop on promoting the party, globally. The New York Times also reported that he provides backing for the people's forum.

The Free Beacon has reported that key leaders for the forum serve in top position at Singham's Justice and Education Fund.

I'm sorry. The Free Beacon also reported that the network run by Singham is also behind Breakthrough Media and Dong Shang News, who both pushed pro-China narratives. And whose content is reshared by the forum here in the United States.

Free press also reported that Singham and Evans have donated over $20 million to the people's forum from 2017 to 2022.

Through a years of Shell organizations. And donor advisory groups, accounting for nearly all of the group's funding. The free beacon also reported in 2024, the people's forum had encouraged anti-Israel activists to re-create the violent protests of the summer of 2020. Just hours before the rioters stormed and occupied a building at Columbia University campus. So these are some of the people that are involved.

Again, you also have the federal government involved.

DHS under Mayorkas was also helping fund, I think it was CHIRLA. Wasn't it?

JASON: CHIRLA.

GLENN: Yeah. Tell me that connection.

JASON: Yeah. So CHIRLA, and I just lost it on my notes too. But CHIRLA was receiving not only state taxpayer funds. They were also under Karen Bass, received another grant from the federal government, from the Department of Homeland Security. Reports say, that that grant specifically was due to lobbying effort from Karen Bass.

GLENN: Karen Bass, in case you don't remember who Karen base is.

She's not just the LA mayor.

And we'll get into her later this week. But I want to just recap who Karen Bass is.

She's not just an incompetent yahoo. She is somebody who is very important to the movement, and we'll explain here, coming up in just a second.

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We have Julio Rosas, who is with TheBlaze.

And he's always in the thick of things. He's in Los Angeles. We will talk to him in just a little while. Stand by for that.

Karen Bass, remember, she was the mayor when the city was burning down.

She is a radical that, you know, is just appointing people on who they sleep with.

Not on their qualities.

And she left town, knowing that the threat of fire was very high. She left town, and where did she go?

GLENN: She went to Ghana. What was she doing in Ghana?

JASON: That's a good question.

GLENN: It is a good question. Why is she in Ghana? What are her connections in Ghana?
JASON: I think we'll go to that pretty soon.

GLENN: Okay. There are some connections directly to Communism.

That she seems to support. We will have it all nailed down for you.

But she is a -- a big political activist, on the left.

She's not -- she's not a mayor, just, you know. Hey. She's a -- she has deep connections to the deep left.

JASON: Yeah, she was actually a member of the Men Saramos Brigade (phonetic). And made seven trips to Cuba during the 1970s. It was reel for Americans to do so, at that time. But she did it.

It's very interesting. She was also the vice chair of the National Endowment for Democracy.

Which, what is their specialty?

GLENN: Hey. Isn't that Colour Revolution?

JASON: Oh, yeah. Specialized.

GLENN: What you're seeing. Happening in California.

And make no mistake. It's going to come to you all of our states, one way or another, is a Colour Revolution.

And it is exactly what I put up in the chalkboard, how many years ago?

When did I first write that? Can you figure that one out?

When did I first write, that the left, communists, anarchists, Islamists. Will all gather together.

Work together, to overthrow the western world.

JASON: Yeah. That was the Arab spring, in 2010, or something?

GLENN: Yeah. Nine or ten was when I said that. And everybody said, it's not possible.

And you're seeing it in action.

It's not just the LGBTQ community is supporting the Palestinian cause, which if you go over with your rainbow flags over, and you're anywhere near the Palestinian territory, they will kill you.

Okay?

They're not going to be -- you're not going into their school and teaching them about the kids being born in the wrong body.

They will kill you. It's not about the insane things like supporting.

Now you're starting to see them in action.

What was the triangle we saw spray-painted, Jason. We were talking about this in Los Angeles.

JASON: Yeah. It was graffiti found, an upside down inverted triangle, which Hamas uses, their militant wing uses to mark Israeli targets.

GLENN: Now, this one was a red triangle.

And remember, we're going to show you this week, that the communists, and the Islamists are -- and socialists, are connected.

This triangle is connecting them. Okay?

It's leaving a mark. That -- you will see that triangle, I think it's up on the Blaze right now. If you happen to be watching.

But it's all marking, you know, a warning to ICE.

This triangle, a red triangle was used by the fascists. By Germans.

When they rounded up people who were communists.

And it was an upside down triangle, that you had on your prison uniform. That meant you were either a communist or a capitalist.

One of the two.

I don't think this is a -- you know, just -- you know, let's pick a red triangle.

I'm sorry.

I don't -- I don't think so.

This is more than just an Islamist movement.

This is an Islamist communist movement.

And what you're seeing happening in Los Angeles now. And it is just the beginning.

Warning. By 2028. This will be everywhere.

What you're seeing now is a -- a setup.

They want a moment, where the military, or the police, or anybody, does something, that they can use now, and say, see.

They're just like the Israelis with the Palestinians. This is the same kind of atrocities and genocide that is happening.

That's what they're looking for.

EXPOSED: Tim Walz's shocking ties to radical Muslim cleric

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is directly connected in more ways than one to a radical Muslim cleric named Asad Zaman. Zaman's history and ties are despicable, and despite Walz's efforts to dismiss his connection to Zaman, the proof is undeniable. Glenn Beck heads to the chalkboard to connect the dots on this relationship.

Watch the FULL Episode HERE: Glenn Beck Exposes TERRORIST SYMPATHIZERS Infiltrating the Democrat Party

Is there a sinister GOP plan to SELL national parks?

Is Sen. Mike Lee pushing a sinister plan to sell our national parks and build “affordable housing” on them? Glenn Beck fact checks this claim and explains why Sen. Lee’s plan to sell 3 million acres of federal land is actually pro-freedom.

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GLENN: Now, let me give you a couple of things, from people I generally respect.

Chris Rufo, I really respect.

I'm totally against selling this land.

Nobody is going to build affordable housing deep in the Olympic Peninsula, which is one of the most beautiful places in the country.

I agree, it's in Washington State. It's on the coast. And it's a rain forest.

I want my kids hiking, fishing, and camping on those lands, not selling them off for some tax credit scam. This is a question I want to ask Mike Lee about.

That's really good. Matt Walsh chimes in, I'm very opposed to the plan. The biggest environmentalist in the country are and always have been, conservatives who like to hunt and fish.

We don't just call ourselves environmentalists, because the label has too much baggage.

And the practice always just means communist. Really, we are naturalists in the tradition of Teddy Roosevelt, and that's why most of us hate the idea of selling off federal lands to build affordable housing or whatever. I want to get to affordable housing here in a second.

Preserving nature is important. It's a shame we haven't -- that we've allowed conservation to become so left-wing coated. It never was historically.

No, and it still isn't.

You're right about one thing, Matt. We are the best conservatives. We actually live in these places. We use these places. We respect the animals. We respect the land. We know how the circle of life works. So I agree with you on that.

But affordable housing. Why do you say affordable housing or whatever?

Are you afraid those will be black people? I'm just playing devil's advocate? Are you just afraid of black people? You don't want any poor people in your neighborhood or your forest?

That's not what they mean by affordable housing.

And I know that's not what you mean either.

But what -- what we mean by affordable housing is, if you take a look at the percentage of land that is owned in some of these states. You can't live in a house, in some of these states, you know. Close to anything, for, you know, less than a million dollars. Because there's no land!

There's plenty of land all around.

Some of it. Let's just talk about Utah.

Some of it is like the surface of the moon!

But no. No. No.

Not going to hunt and fish on the surface of the moon. But we can't have you live anywhere.

I mean, you have to open up -- there is a balance between people and the planet. And I'm sorry. But when you're talked about one half of 1 percent, and we're not talking about Yellowstone.

You know, we're not. Benji Backer, the Daily Caller, he says, the United States is attempting to sell off three million acres of public land, that will be used for housing development through the addition of the spending bill.

This is a small provision to the big, beautiful bill that would put land in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado. Idaho. New Mexico. Oregon. Utah. Washington, and Wyoming at risk.

Without so much as a full and fair debate by members of both sides of the political aisle.

You know, I talked -- I'll talk to him about this.

The irony is, the edition of this provision by Republican-led Senate goes entirely against conservation legacy of a conservation. President Trump made a promise to revive this legacy.

Yada. Yada. Yada.

More about Teddy Roosevelt.

Then let me give you this one from Lomez. Is Mike Lee part of a sinister plan to sell off federal land?

This plan to sell off public lands is a terrible proposal that doesn't make any sense under our present circumstances and would be a colossal political blunder. But I'll try to be fair to base Mike Lee.

And at least have him explain where this is all coming from.

Okay. I will have him do that in about 30 minutes.

Let me give you just my perspective on this.

I'm from the West. I love the west.

I don't hike myself.

I think there's about 80 percent of the people who say, I just love to hike. And they don't love to hike. They never go outside.

I'm at least willing to admit. I don't like to hike. But I love the land. I live in a canyon now. That I would love to just preserve this whole canyon in my lifetime. I'm not going to rule from the grave. But in my lifetime, to protect this, so it remains unspoiled. Because it is beautiful!

But we're talking about selling 3 million acres of federal land. And it's becoming dangerous.

And it's a giveaway. Or a threat to nature.

But can we just look at the perspective here?

The federal government owned 640 million acres. That is nearly 28 percent of all land in America!

How much land do we have?

Well, that's about the size of France.

And Germany. Poland.

And the United Kingdom, combined!

They own and hold pristine land, that is more than the size of those countries combined!

And most of that is west of the Mississippi. Where the federal control smothers the states.

Okay?

Shuts down opportunity. Turns local citizens into tenets of the federal estate.

You can't afford any house because you don't have any land!

And, you know, the states can't afford to take care of this land. You know why the states can't afford it?

Because you can't charge taxes on 70 percent of your land!

Anyway, on, meanwhile, the folks east of the Mississippi, like Kentucky, Georgia. Pennsylvania.

You don't even realize, you know, how little of the land, you actually control.

Or how easy it is for the same policies, to come for you.

And those policies are real.

Look, I'm not talking about -- I'm disturbed by Chris Rufo saying, that it is the Olympic forest.

I mean, you're not going to live in the rain forest. I would like to hear the case on that.

But we're not talking about selling Yellowstone or paving over Yosemite or anything like that.

We're talking about less than one half of one percent of federal land. Land that is remote.
Hard to access. Or mismanaged. I live in the middle of a national forest.

So I'm surrounded on all sides by a national forest, and then BLM land around that. And then me. You know who the worst neighbor I have is?

The federal government.

The BLM land is so badly mismanaged. They don't care what's happening.

Yeah. I'm going to call my neighbor, in Washington, DC, to have them fix something.

It's not going to happen.

If something is wrong with that land, me and my neighbors, we end up, you know, fixing the land.

We end up doing it. Because the federal government sucks at it.

Okay.

So here's one -- less than one half of 1 percent.

Why is it hard to access that land?

Well, let me give you a story. Yellowstone.

Do you know that the American bison, we call it the buffalo.

But it's the American bison.

There are no true American bison, in any place, other than Yellowstone.

Did you know that?

Here's almost an endangered species.

It's the only true American bison, is in Yellowstone.

Ranchers, I would love to raise real American bison.

And I would protect them.

I would love to have them roaming on my land.

But you can't!

You can't.

Real bison, you can't.

Why? Because the federal government won't allow any of them to be bred.

In fact, when Yellowstone has too many bison on their land, you know what the federal government does?

Kills them. And buries them with a bulldozer. Instead of saying, hey. We have too many.

We will thin the herd.

We will put them on a truck. Here's some ranchers that will help repopulate the United States with bison. No, no, no. You can't do that.

Why? It's the federal government. Stop asking questions. Do you know what they've done to our bald eagles.

I have pictures of piles of bald eagles.

That they'll never show you.

They'll never show you.

You can't have a bald eagle feather!

It's against the law, to have a feather, from a bald eagle!

If it's flying, and a feather falls off, you can't pick it up. Because they're that sacred.

But I have pictures of piles of bald eagles, dead, from the windmills.

And nobody says a thing.

Okay.

But we're talking about lands.

States can't afford to manage it.

Okay. But how can the federal government?

Now, this is really important.

The federal government is, what? $30 trillion in debt or are we 45 trillion now, I'm not sure?

Our entitlement programs, all straight infrastructure, crumbling.

And yet, we're still clinging to millions of acres of land, that the federal government can't maintain. Yeah, they can.

Because they can always print money.

We can't print money in the state, so we can't afford it.

Hear me out. The BLM Forest Service, Park Service, billions of dollars behind in maintenance, roads, trails, fire brakes.

Everything is falling apart..

So what's the real plan here?

Well, the Biden administration was the first one that was really open about it, pushing for what was called 30 by 30.

They want 30 percent of all US land and water, under conservation by 2030.

But the real goal is 5050.

50 percent of the land, and the water, in the government's control by 2050.

Half of the country locked up under federal or elite approved protection.

Now, you think that's not going to affect your ability to hunt, fish, graze, cattle. Harvest, timber, just live free. You won't be able to go on those. It won't be conservatives, who stop you from hunting and fishing.

It will be the same radical environmental ideologues, who see the land, as sacred, over people!

I mean, unless it's in your backyard. Your truck. Or your dear stand, you know, then I guess you can't touch that land.

Here's something that no one is talking about, and it goes to the 2030.

The Treasury right now, and they started under Obama, and they're still doing it now.

Sorry, under Biden.

And they're doing it now. The Treasury is talking about putting federal land on the national ballot sheet. What does that mean?

Well, it will make our balance sheet so much better.

Because it looks like we have so much more wealth, and we will be able to print more money.

Uh-huh. What happens, you know. You put something sacred like that, on your balance sheet, and the piggy bank runs dry.

And all of the banks are like, okay.

Well, you can't pay anymore.

What happens in a default?

What happens, if there's catastrophic failure. You don't get to go fish on that land. Because that land becomes Chinese.

You think our creditors, foreign and domestic, won't come knocking?

What happens when federal land is no longer a national treasure, but a financial asset, that can be seized or sold or controlled by giant banks or foreign countries.

That land that you thought, you would always have access to, for your kids, for your hunting lodge, for your way of life.

That is really important!

But it might not be yours at all. Because you had full faith in the credit of the United States of America.

So what is the alternative?

Supreme Court UPHOLDS Tennessee trans law, but should have done THIS

The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in favor a Tennessee law that bans transgender surgeries for minors. But famed attorney Alan Dershowitz explains to Glenn why “it should have been unanimous.”

Transcript

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GLENN: Alan Dershowitz, how are you?

ALAN: I'm doing great, how about you?

GLENN: It has been a really confusing week. I'm losing friends, I think, because I stand with Israel's right to defend themselves. And I'm pointing out, that while I don't want a war, Iran is a really bad place.

And then I see, the Supreme Court comes out best interest there are three justices are like, I don't know. I think children, you know, can change their identity before we even let them drive or carry a gun. Or enlist in the military.

It's insane!

ALAN: It is insane. Especially since the radical left said that -- 17 and a half-year-old -- voluntary sex with their boyfriend. That would be sexist, that would be horrible.

But they can consent to have an abortion. They can consent to have radical surgery, that can't be reversed.

By the way, the decision is like six to two and a half. Elena Kagan, my former colleague at Harvard, didn't reach the merits of whether or not a state could actually ban these operations on a minor. She got involved in whether or not you need super, duper scrutiny, or just super scrutiny, a kind of, you know, a very technical thing.

But she didn't rule on whether under any kind of scrutiny, the state could do that. So definitely, two of them said that the state could do it, but not necessarily a third one.

GLENN: Okay.

Can you break this argument down? And why it should have been unanimous?

ALAN: Oh, it should be unanimous. There's no question.

States under the Constitution, have the authority to decide medical issues. States decide a whole range of medical issues. I remember when I was a young professor, there was an issue of whether or not one twin could be operated on to remove a kidney, to be given to another twin.

And, you know, that case went all the way through -- the federal government never got involved in that. That was up to the state of Massachusetts. They made interesting decisions.

Some states go the other way.

Half the countries of Europe go one way. The other half go the other way. And just as Justice Brandeis once said that things are the laboratories of Constitutional experimentation.

They have the right to do things their own way. And then we'll see over time. Over time, I predict that we will find that this kind of surgery, is not acceptable scientifically for young people.

And the New York Times had an absurd op-ed yesterday. By the mother of a transgender person.

And it never mentioned. It originally said that the person was now 18 years old.

And the decision does not apply to anyone who is 18.

You know, just wait. Don't make irreversible decisions while you're 12 years old. Or 13 years old.

Because we know the statistics show, that some people, at least, regret having made these irreversible decisions, particularly. Yeah.

GLENN: So why is it -- why is it that the state. Why wasn't the argument, you can't do this to children?

ALAN: Well, you know, that's the question.

Whether or not if the state says, you can do it to children, that violates the Constitution. I think states are given an enormous amount of leeway, this. Deciding what's best for people.

You leave it to the public.

And, you know, for me, if I were, you know, voting. I would not vote to allow a 17-year-old to make that irreversible decision. But if the state wants to do it. If a country in Europe wants to do it. All right!

But the idea that there's a constitutional right for a minor, who can't -- isn't old enough to consent to a contract, to have sex, is old enough to consent to do something that will change their life forever, and they will come to regret, is -- is absurd.

GLENN: So I don't know how you feel about Justice Thomas. But he -- he took on the so-called experts.

And -- and really kind of took him to the woodshed. What were your thoughts on that?

ALAN: Well, I agree with that. I devoted my whole life to challenging experts. That's what I do in court.

I challenge experts all the time. But most of the major cases that I've won, have been cases where experts went one way, and we were -- persuaded a jury or judge. That the expert is not really an expert.

Experts have become partisans, just like everybody else.

And so I'm glad that expert piece is being challenged by judges.

And, you know, experts ought to challenge judges, judges challenge experts. That's the world we live in. Everybody challenges everybody else. As long as all of us are allowed to speak, allowed to have our point of view expressed, allowed to vote, that's democracy.

Democracy does not require a singular answer to complex medical, psychological, moral problems. We can have multiple answers.

We're not a dictatorship. We're not in North Korea or Iran, where the ayatollah or the leader tells us what to think. We can think for ourselves, and we can act for ourselves.

GLENN: Yeah. It's really interesting because this is my argument with Obamacare.

I was dead set against Obamacare. But I wasn't against Romneycare when it was in Massachusetts. If that's what Massachusetts wants to do, Massachusetts can do it. Try it.

And honestly, if it would work in a state, we would all adopt it.

But the problem is, that some of these things, like Romneycare, doesn't work. And so they want to -- they want to rope the federal government into it. Because the federal government can just print money. You know, any state wants to do anything.

For instance, I have a real hard time with California right now.

Because I have a feeling, when they fail, we will be roped into paying for the things that we all knew were bad ideas.

Why? Why should I pay for it in Texas, when I know it wouldn't work?

And I've always wanted to live in California, but I don't, because I know that's not going to work.

ALAN: Yeah. But conservatives sometimes take the opposite point of view.

Take guns, for example.

The same Justice Thomas says that I state cannot have the authority to decide that guns should not be available in time square.

Or in schools. There has to be a national openness to guns. Because of the second apple.

And -- you can argue reasonably, what the Second Amendment means.

But, you know, conservatives -- many conservatives take the view that it has to be a single standard for the United States.

It can't vary in their decision how to control -- I'm your favorite --

GLENN: Isn't that -- doesn't that -- doesn't that just take what the -- what the Bill of Rights is about, and turns it upside the head?

I mean, it says, anything not mentioned here, the states have the rights.

But they -- they cannot. The federal government cannot get involved in any of these things.

And these are rights that are enshrined.

So, I mean, because you could say that, but, I mean, when it comes to health care, that's not in the Constitution. Not in the Bill of Rights.

ALAN: Oh, no.

There's a big difference, of course.

The Second Amendment does provide for the right to bear arms.

The question is whether it's interpreted in light of the beginning of the Second Amendment. Which says, essentially, a well-regulated, well-regulated militia. Whether that applies to private ownership as well.

Whether it could be well-regulated by states.

Look, these are interesting debates.

And the Supreme Court, you know, decides these.

But all I'm saying is that many of these decisions are in some way, influenced by ideology.

The words of the Constitution, don't speak like, you know, the Ten Commandments and God, giving orders from on high.

They're often written in ambiguous terms. Even the Ten Commandments. You know, it says, thou shall not murder. And it's been interpreted by some to say, thou shall not still, the Hebrew word is (foreign language), for murder, not kill. And, of course, we know that in parts of the Bible, you are allowed to kill your enemies, if they come after you to kill you, rise up and kill them first.

So, you know, everything -- human beings are incapable of writing with absolute clarity, about complex issues.

That's why we need institutions to interpret them. The institutions should be fair.

And the Supreme Court is sometimes taking over too much authority, too much power.

I have an article today, with gay stone.

Can had starts with a quote from the book of Ruth.

And it says, when judges rule the land, there was famine.

And I say, judges were not supposed to ever rule, going back to Biblical times.

Judges are supposed to judge.

People who are elected or pointed appropriately. Are the ones supposed to rule.

GLENN: Quickly. Two other topics. And I know you have to go.

If I can get a couple of quick takes on you.

The Democrats that are being handcuffed, and throwing themselves into situations.

Do you find that to be a sign of a fascistic state or a publicity stunt?

ALAN: A publicity stunt. And they would knit it. You know, give them a drink at 11 o'clock in the bar. They will tell you, they are doing this deliberately to get attention.

Of course, a guy who is running behind in the mayor race in New York, goes and gets himself arrested. And now he's on every New York television station. And probably will move himself up in the polls.

So no.

Insular -- I don't believe in that. And I don't believe we should take it -- take it seriously.

GLENN: Last question.

I am proudly for Israel.

But I'm also for America. And I'm really tired of foreign wars.

And I think you can be pro-Israel and pro-America at the same time.

I don't think you can -- you don't have to say, I'm for Israel, defending themselves, and then that makes me a warmonger.

I am also very concerned about Iran. And have been for a very long time.

Because they're Twelvers. They're Shia Twelvers. That want to wash the world in blood. To hasten the return of the promised one.

So when they have a nuclear weapon. It's a whole different story.

ALAN: No, I agree with you, Tucker Carlson, is absolutely wrong, when he say he has to choose between America first or supporting Israel. Supporting Israel in this fight against Iran, is being America first.

It's supporting America. Israel has been doing all the hard work. It's been the one who lost its civilians and fortunately, none of its pilots yet.

But America and Israel work together in the interest of both countries.

So I'm -- I'm a big supporter of the United States, the patriarch. And I'm a big supporter of Israel at the same time.

Because they work together in tandem, to bring about Western -- Western values.

GLENN: Should we drop a bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should.

GLENN: Our plane drop the bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should. And without killing civilians. It can be done. Probably needs four bombs, not one bomb. First, one bomb to open up the mountain. Then another bomb to destroy what's going on inside.

And in my book The Preventive State, I make the case for when preventive war is acceptable. And the war against Iran is as acceptable as it would have been to attack Nazi Germany in the 1930s. If we had done that, if Britain and France had attacked Nazi Germany in the 1930s, instead of allowing it to be built up, it could have saved 60 million lives. And so sometimes, you have to take preventive actions to save lives.

GLENN: What is the preventive state out, Alan?

ALAN: Just now. Just now.

Very well on Amazon.

New York Times refuses to review it. Because I defended Donald Trump.

And Harvard club cancelled my appearance talked about the book. Because I haven't been defending Harvard. I've been defending President Trump's attack. By the way, they called Trump to Harvard: Go fund yourself.
(laughter)

GLENN: Okay.

Let's -- I would love to have you back on next week. To talk about the preventive state. If you will. Thank you, Alan. I appreciate it. Alan Dershowitz. Harvard Law school, professor emeritus, host of the Dershow. And the author of the new book that's out now, The Preventive State.

I think that's a really important topic. Because we are -- we are traveling down the roads, where fascism, on both sides, where fascism can start to creep in. And it's all for your own good.

It's all for your own protection. Be aware. Be aware.

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