RADIOMay 28, 2024

The TERRIFYING New ESG Rule that Glenn WARNED About is NOW HERE

The European Union just gave its final approval for a new ESG requirements that will affect companies around the world. Glenn has been warning about this law for years and now, he says there’s only one way to stop it. But why should Americans be worried about EU regulations? Well, Glenn explains how ALL companies will either have to comply or abandon doing business with not just the EU, but any big company that does business in the EU. Plus, he breaks down how it could “destroy the petroleum industry” and even lead to YOU getting a social credit score.

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GLENN: We have -- I have some good news and I have some bad news. Which do you want first?

STU: I'm a glutton for punishment. We'll take the bad news first.

GLENN: Okay. Hmm. You sure?

Okay. Here we go.

This is -- this is extraordinarily bad news from the European Union.

This is something that I have been warning listeners and readers with for over three years now.

It was included in both The Great Reset, and the Dark Future books.

We really went into it, at Dark Future, talking about, this -- this can't happen.

If this happens. Don't, no. Really.

Well, it's just happened. We've talked about it on the air several times. But I don't -- now it's official. And it's in writing. And so I'm going to explain it. And tell you what it is, and what it's going to do.

It looked like this bill was going to tie several times over the past few months. In fact, Justin Haskins and I had a big argument. Should have made a 3,000-dollar bet with him.

And then I could have paid you off for the Michelle Obama thing. But he said it would fail. And it did not. Now it's one of the biggest threats to freedom in America, both in the short and in the long-term, because this law, because of this law in Europe, our society, through corporate decision making and business partnerships, are going to be forced to conform with the European rules, values, and environmental standards. European social justice metrics are now officially, they have to be imposed on America, through this law.

The only thing that will change this, is if Congress acts, and the president acts.

This president and this at least Senate, will never stop this.

Here's what's going to happen: The EU has established an extraordinarily complex, very large ESG system, that covers all companies, and when I say all companies. All companies, will need to comply with.

This includes both covered companies. Based in the US. As well as non-EU companies, such as those in America and in Canada, that operate in the EU.

So, in other words, you sell, I think it's half a billion dollars' worth of stuff. And you have to comply. You sell a half a billion dollars in Europe. Just under that. Then you have to comply.

But so do all of the companies that you do business with.

So if you're a small company and you're making winkling it's, and you sell them to a company that is making big money. And I wonder if this applies to Amazon.

You sell something on Amazon, that's a company that's making at least half a billion dollars in Europe. You're going to have to comply.

The -- the covered companies, will be required to submit reports to the European government authorities, if they are EU-based customers. Or companies with more than a thousand employees. And a world wild turnover of more than $489 million.

Turnover is another word for revenue. Or income.

But why wouldn't you say that? This word bothers me. I just think it's one of those words like stakeholders. And nobody knows what it means. And then you hear stakeholders, and you know what it means. You're like, oh, crap, that's everybody.

Non-EU-based companies, such as U.S. companies now, fall under the requirements if they have a net turnover of more than $489 million with the European Union.

Franchise and licensing agreements as well as subsidiaries of larger companies.

Will also fall under the EU's ESG regime.

I don't know exactly the lawyers have not even really explained this yet.

But we have been covering this for so long.

We think we know what this means. But licensing agreements. I write books. Some of them sell in Europe.

Simon & Schuster sells books like crazy over in Europe.

They're making over 489 million I'm sure, in Europe.

Am I now forced to comply?

Thank God I have Mercury, Inc. now, and I don't have to do Simon & Schuster. But am I required?

Most importantly, all covered companies will need to ensure that the businesses in their supply and value chains. I don't know what that means. Do you know what supply and value chain is?

Stu, you're the head of Ford. Have you checked your value change?

What is exactly the numbers on your value change? What the hell does that mean?

STU: Value chain or value chains?

GLENN: Value chains.

STU: I mean, I'm very in touch with my value chains on a daily basis.

GLENN: Yeah, okay. Also, those companies, anybody who makes a widget for these companies has to adhere to the relevant ESG you rules. Remember, ESG is environmental, social, and governance.

So could you have enough, you know, gay -- gay, black, hermaphrodites, that only have one leg.

Do you have them on your board?

Well, why not?

That's your governance part. Social is all of the social justice crap, that we have been fighting. And E, of course, is environment.

This bill, by the way, will destroy the petroleum industry. And don't worry, petroleum, it's not used at anything. Nothing can make petroleum.

This will indirectly impose Europe's ESG standards on countless American companies, including many small businesses.

All covered companies will need to create climate change transition plans. Prevention action plans. Establish contractural assurances, from a direct business partner. That it will ensure compliance with the business' prevention action plan.

So you make a widget, but you don't sell it to Ford. You sell it to somebody that is making radios for Ford.

You don't have anything to do with Ford. But if you want to sell a widget to another company, that does business with Ford, or sell it to another company that that company sells to another company, to sell to Ford.

You see how this is working?

And if you don't comply in America, you cannot sell anything, in Europe.

You also, established contractural assurances. Business prevention.

Can and make necessary financial or nonfinancial investments or upgrades.

What the hell does that mean? Individual countries will write their own laws in accordance with this new EU. ESG law.

Each country in the EU will be responsible for enforcing its rules and issuing punishments. Civilian and activist groups also are covered in this bill. Activist groups can bring private cause of action against companies for failing to meet guidelines.

Well, open up the floodgates for attorneys, right there. The EU requirements are going to be faced in, beginning in 2027.

Now, let me get into the actual requirements, that we can -- this is a very complex, and very big bill.

Over the weekend. Thank God for Justin Haskins and his team. He went through all of it. So let me tell you what these rules are.
Again, we're talking about something that just passed on Friday in the EU that affects us. And it's -- it's the economy. It's the environment. It's free speech. It's all of it. So there's not a single long list of rules that companies need to comply with. There are some specific rules that are included.

However, this new law includes hundreds of vague statements and references to existing international agreements and EU regulations.

Many of those are also long agreements, featuring many more are rules, such as, the Paris climate agreement.

And the international covenant on economic, social, and cultural rights. You know that. You're complying I'm sure.

Oh, you're not?

I guess we should read up on it. As a result of the complexity and the expansiveness of the rule. The total number of social credit scoring metrics. Let me say that again. The total number of social credit scoring metrics, included in this law, is currently unknown.

But it is likely in the hundreds, if not more than a thousand.

It's hard to tell, currently. You get social credit scores. Now, let me ask you something: Is the EU going to actually stop buying everything that comes from China.

Because there's no way that China will comply with this.

Do you know what that will do for the prices in the European Union.

If they stop buying stuff from China?

If we don't stop this. If we stop buying things from China.

Prices -- you will go broke, quickly, businesses will go out of business, quickly.

Now, here's just one example of the law, where it's not economic.

It's actually on climate change. And free speech.

The directive is an important legislative tool to ensure corporate transition to a sustainable economy. What they're saying there is: No longer a capitalist system. Including to reduce the existential harms and costs of climate change. To ensure alignment with the global net zero by 2050. And to avoid any misleading claims, regarding such alignment, and stop green washing disinformation, and fossil fuel expansion, worldwide, in order to achieve international and European climate objectives

So notice they throw in misinformation. One law -- one law firm notes, companies are required to effectively engage with stakeholders. Let me say that again.

Companies are required to effectively engage with stakeholders.

Do you remember who the stakeholders are? Because they're not you!

The take holder are the governments. The social activists. And I think that's it. And the companies, themselves.

Those three get together. Because, you know, the Sierra Club, is a stakeholder in making sure that our trees are okay. And our environment is clean.

The government is just a representative of you. Yeah. Yeah. I stopped believing that a long time ago.

So you don't have a voice. Your voice is the Senate, the House, and the president.

That's the stakeholder that they have to deal with. Companies have to sit down, when they're making these rules, with those guys.

This includes carrying out consultations at various stages, of the due diligence process. That's going to be cheap. During which, companies must provide comprehensive information.

Now, according to the European parliament. Member states will be required to provide companies with detailed online information. On their -- of their due diligence obligations. Via practical portals, containing the commission's guidance.

They will also create or design, and designate a supervisor authority, to investigate, and impose penalties, on any noncompliant firms.

These will include naming and shame.

That's a quote.

This will include, in quotes, naming and shaming. And fines of up to 5 percent of the company's net worldwide turnover.

Again, worldwide turnover.

Why not use revenue?

Additionally, a breach of certain CSDDDD obligations. That's the catchy acronym for it.

May result in civil liability for damages. However, a company cannot be held liable for any damage caused by its business partners. In its chain of activities.

That's the bad news. I can guarantee you, we are at least a year, maybe two years ahead of everyone else. They are not paying attention to this.

Do not dismiss this, when you go into vote.

Which candidate is -- and I mean every candidate, is most likely to stand up and say, no! Review if the United States, a huge market, decides to say, we're not playing your game. Europe will not be able to stand on its own.

China, they'll just give a pass to. Because everybody, for some reason, thinks that that authoritarian state that puts their own people with social credit scores, and puts them in camps, is okay.

Let me ask you this: Do you think Europe is actually going to have Apple pay a fine or stop making its products in China because they're made by slaves?

No.

This is a way to -- look, there is a book over in our museum.

Very rare. Because the king had them all burned.

It was during the witch trials over in Europe.

And it was one book, that says, this is hogwash!

This is just the king wanting these rules, so he can get rid of his enemies.

King had them all burned. We can find all kinds of stuff, that say, witches are real.

That book, is extraordinarily rare. Why?

The king needed them to go away, because he could have -- anybody who displeased him, he's a witch.

She's a witch.

Burn them at the stake. That's exactly what's going to happen here. Companies like Apple will be fine. Facebook, fine.

Doing business. Over in Europe. Even though, they're working with the Chinese!

You, but any company that decides to stand and say, no. We don't believe in this.

We're not doing this. You're doomed. You're doomed.

If you play ball with the government, one way or another, you're all right.

EXPOSED: Tim Walz's shocking ties to radical Muslim cleric

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is directly connected in more ways than one to a radical Muslim cleric named Asad Zaman. Zaman's history and ties are despicable, and despite Walz's efforts to dismiss his connection to Zaman, the proof is undeniable. Glenn Beck heads to the chalkboard to connect the dots on this relationship.

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Is there a sinister GOP plan to SELL national parks?

Is Sen. Mike Lee pushing a sinister plan to sell our national parks and build “affordable housing” on them? Glenn Beck fact checks this claim and explains why Sen. Lee’s plan to sell 3 million acres of federal land is actually pro-freedom.

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GLENN: Now, let me give you a couple of things, from people I generally respect.

Chris Rufo, I really respect.

I'm totally against selling this land.

Nobody is going to build affordable housing deep in the Olympic Peninsula, which is one of the most beautiful places in the country.

I agree, it's in Washington State. It's on the coast. And it's a rain forest.

I want my kids hiking, fishing, and camping on those lands, not selling them off for some tax credit scam. This is a question I want to ask Mike Lee about.

That's really good. Matt Walsh chimes in, I'm very opposed to the plan. The biggest environmentalist in the country are and always have been, conservatives who like to hunt and fish.

We don't just call ourselves environmentalists, because the label has too much baggage.

And the practice always just means communist. Really, we are naturalists in the tradition of Teddy Roosevelt, and that's why most of us hate the idea of selling off federal lands to build affordable housing or whatever. I want to get to affordable housing here in a second.

Preserving nature is important. It's a shame we haven't -- that we've allowed conservation to become so left-wing coated. It never was historically.

No, and it still isn't.

You're right about one thing, Matt. We are the best conservatives. We actually live in these places. We use these places. We respect the animals. We respect the land. We know how the circle of life works. So I agree with you on that.

But affordable housing. Why do you say affordable housing or whatever?

Are you afraid those will be black people? I'm just playing devil's advocate? Are you just afraid of black people? You don't want any poor people in your neighborhood or your forest?

That's not what they mean by affordable housing.

And I know that's not what you mean either.

But what -- what we mean by affordable housing is, if you take a look at the percentage of land that is owned in some of these states. You can't live in a house, in some of these states, you know. Close to anything, for, you know, less than a million dollars. Because there's no land!

There's plenty of land all around.

Some of it. Let's just talk about Utah.

Some of it is like the surface of the moon!

But no. No. No.

Not going to hunt and fish on the surface of the moon. But we can't have you live anywhere.

I mean, you have to open up -- there is a balance between people and the planet. And I'm sorry. But when you're talked about one half of 1 percent, and we're not talking about Yellowstone.

You know, we're not. Benji Backer, the Daily Caller, he says, the United States is attempting to sell off three million acres of public land, that will be used for housing development through the addition of the spending bill.

This is a small provision to the big, beautiful bill that would put land in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado. Idaho. New Mexico. Oregon. Utah. Washington, and Wyoming at risk.

Without so much as a full and fair debate by members of both sides of the political aisle.

You know, I talked -- I'll talk to him about this.

The irony is, the edition of this provision by Republican-led Senate goes entirely against conservation legacy of a conservation. President Trump made a promise to revive this legacy.

Yada. Yada. Yada.

More about Teddy Roosevelt.

Then let me give you this one from Lomez. Is Mike Lee part of a sinister plan to sell off federal land?

This plan to sell off public lands is a terrible proposal that doesn't make any sense under our present circumstances and would be a colossal political blunder. But I'll try to be fair to base Mike Lee.

And at least have him explain where this is all coming from.

Okay. I will have him do that in about 30 minutes.

Let me give you just my perspective on this.

I'm from the West. I love the west.

I don't hike myself.

I think there's about 80 percent of the people who say, I just love to hike. And they don't love to hike. They never go outside.

I'm at least willing to admit. I don't like to hike. But I love the land. I live in a canyon now. That I would love to just preserve this whole canyon in my lifetime. I'm not going to rule from the grave. But in my lifetime, to protect this, so it remains unspoiled. Because it is beautiful!

But we're talking about selling 3 million acres of federal land. And it's becoming dangerous.

And it's a giveaway. Or a threat to nature.

But can we just look at the perspective here?

The federal government owned 640 million acres. That is nearly 28 percent of all land in America!

How much land do we have?

Well, that's about the size of France.

And Germany. Poland.

And the United Kingdom, combined!

They own and hold pristine land, that is more than the size of those countries combined!

And most of that is west of the Mississippi. Where the federal control smothers the states.

Okay?

Shuts down opportunity. Turns local citizens into tenets of the federal estate.

You can't afford any house because you don't have any land!

And, you know, the states can't afford to take care of this land. You know why the states can't afford it?

Because you can't charge taxes on 70 percent of your land!

Anyway, on, meanwhile, the folks east of the Mississippi, like Kentucky, Georgia. Pennsylvania.

You don't even realize, you know, how little of the land, you actually control.

Or how easy it is for the same policies, to come for you.

And those policies are real.

Look, I'm not talking about -- I'm disturbed by Chris Rufo saying, that it is the Olympic forest.

I mean, you're not going to live in the rain forest. I would like to hear the case on that.

But we're not talking about selling Yellowstone or paving over Yosemite or anything like that.

We're talking about less than one half of one percent of federal land. Land that is remote.
Hard to access. Or mismanaged. I live in the middle of a national forest.

So I'm surrounded on all sides by a national forest, and then BLM land around that. And then me. You know who the worst neighbor I have is?

The federal government.

The BLM land is so badly mismanaged. They don't care what's happening.

Yeah. I'm going to call my neighbor, in Washington, DC, to have them fix something.

It's not going to happen.

If something is wrong with that land, me and my neighbors, we end up, you know, fixing the land.

We end up doing it. Because the federal government sucks at it.

Okay.

So here's one -- less than one half of 1 percent.

Why is it hard to access that land?

Well, let me give you a story. Yellowstone.

Do you know that the American bison, we call it the buffalo.

But it's the American bison.

There are no true American bison, in any place, other than Yellowstone.

Did you know that?

Here's almost an endangered species.

It's the only true American bison, is in Yellowstone.

Ranchers, I would love to raise real American bison.

And I would protect them.

I would love to have them roaming on my land.

But you can't!

You can't.

Real bison, you can't.

Why? Because the federal government won't allow any of them to be bred.

In fact, when Yellowstone has too many bison on their land, you know what the federal government does?

Kills them. And buries them with a bulldozer. Instead of saying, hey. We have too many.

We will thin the herd.

We will put them on a truck. Here's some ranchers that will help repopulate the United States with bison. No, no, no. You can't do that.

Why? It's the federal government. Stop asking questions. Do you know what they've done to our bald eagles.

I have pictures of piles of bald eagles.

That they'll never show you.

They'll never show you.

You can't have a bald eagle feather!

It's against the law, to have a feather, from a bald eagle!

If it's flying, and a feather falls off, you can't pick it up. Because they're that sacred.

But I have pictures of piles of bald eagles, dead, from the windmills.

And nobody says a thing.

Okay.

But we're talking about lands.

States can't afford to manage it.

Okay. But how can the federal government?

Now, this is really important.

The federal government is, what? $30 trillion in debt or are we 45 trillion now, I'm not sure?

Our entitlement programs, all straight infrastructure, crumbling.

And yet, we're still clinging to millions of acres of land, that the federal government can't maintain. Yeah, they can.

Because they can always print money.

We can't print money in the state, so we can't afford it.

Hear me out. The BLM Forest Service, Park Service, billions of dollars behind in maintenance, roads, trails, fire brakes.

Everything is falling apart..

So what's the real plan here?

Well, the Biden administration was the first one that was really open about it, pushing for what was called 30 by 30.

They want 30 percent of all US land and water, under conservation by 2030.

But the real goal is 5050.

50 percent of the land, and the water, in the government's control by 2050.

Half of the country locked up under federal or elite approved protection.

Now, you think that's not going to affect your ability to hunt, fish, graze, cattle. Harvest, timber, just live free. You won't be able to go on those. It won't be conservatives, who stop you from hunting and fishing.

It will be the same radical environmental ideologues, who see the land, as sacred, over people!

I mean, unless it's in your backyard. Your truck. Or your dear stand, you know, then I guess you can't touch that land.

Here's something that no one is talking about, and it goes to the 2030.

The Treasury right now, and they started under Obama, and they're still doing it now.

Sorry, under Biden.

And they're doing it now. The Treasury is talking about putting federal land on the national ballot sheet. What does that mean?

Well, it will make our balance sheet so much better.

Because it looks like we have so much more wealth, and we will be able to print more money.

Uh-huh. What happens, you know. You put something sacred like that, on your balance sheet, and the piggy bank runs dry.

And all of the banks are like, okay.

Well, you can't pay anymore.

What happens in a default?

What happens, if there's catastrophic failure. You don't get to go fish on that land. Because that land becomes Chinese.

You think our creditors, foreign and domestic, won't come knocking?

What happens when federal land is no longer a national treasure, but a financial asset, that can be seized or sold or controlled by giant banks or foreign countries.

That land that you thought, you would always have access to, for your kids, for your hunting lodge, for your way of life.

That is really important!

But it might not be yours at all. Because you had full faith in the credit of the United States of America.

So what is the alternative?

Dershowitz SLAMS ‘expert’ lies in explosive trans surgery debate

The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in favor a Tennessee law that bans transgender surgeries for minors. But famed attorney Alan Dershowitz explains to Glenn why “it should have been unanimous.”

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GLENN: Alan Dershowitz, how are you?

ALAN: I'm doing great, how about you?

GLENN: It has been a really confusing week. I'm losing friends, I think, because I stand with Israel's right to defend themselves. And I'm pointing out, that while I don't want a war, Iran is a really bad place.

And then I see, the Supreme Court comes out best interest there are three justices are like, I don't know. I think children, you know, can change their identity before we even let them drive or carry a gun. Or enlist in the military.

It's insane!

ALAN: It is insane. Especially since the radical left said that -- 17 and a half-year-old -- voluntary sex with their boyfriend. That would be sexist, that would be horrible.

But they can consent to have an abortion. They can consent to have radical surgery, that can't be reversed.

By the way, the decision is like six to two and a half. Elena Kagan, my former colleague at Harvard, didn't reach the merits of whether or not a state could actually ban these operations on a minor. She got involved in whether or not you need super, duper scrutiny, or just super scrutiny, a kind of, you know, a very technical thing.

But she didn't rule on whether under any kind of scrutiny, the state could do that. So definitely, two of them said that the state could do it, but not necessarily a third one.

GLENN: Okay.

Can you break this argument down? And why it should have been unanimous?

ALAN: Oh, it should be unanimous. There's no question.

States under the Constitution, have the authority to decide medical issues. States decide a whole range of medical issues. I remember when I was a young professor, there was an issue of whether or not one twin could be operated on to remove a kidney, to be given to another twin.

And, you know, that case went all the way through -- the federal government never got involved in that. That was up to the state of Massachusetts. They made interesting decisions.

Some states go the other way.

Half the countries of Europe go one way. The other half go the other way. And just as Justice Brandeis once said that things are the laboratories of Constitutional experimentation.

They have the right to do things their own way. And then we'll see over time. Over time, I predict that we will find that this kind of surgery, is not acceptable scientifically for young people.

And the New York Times had an absurd op-ed yesterday. By the mother of a transgender person.

And it never mentioned. It originally said that the person was now 18 years old.

And the decision does not apply to anyone who is 18.

You know, just wait. Don't make irreversible decisions while you're 12 years old. Or 13 years old.

Because we know the statistics show, that some people, at least, regret having made these irreversible decisions, particularly. Yeah.

GLENN: So why is it -- why is it that the state. Why wasn't the argument, you can't do this to children?

ALAN: Well, you know, that's the question.

Whether or not if the state says, you can do it to children, that violates the Constitution. I think states are given an enormous amount of leeway, this. Deciding what's best for people.

You leave it to the public.

And, you know, for me, if I were, you know, voting. I would not vote to allow a 17-year-old to make that irreversible decision. But if the state wants to do it. If a country in Europe wants to do it. All right!

But the idea that there's a constitutional right for a minor, who can't -- isn't old enough to consent to a contract, to have sex, is old enough to consent to do something that will change their life forever, and they will come to regret, is -- is absurd.

GLENN: So I don't know how you feel about Justice Thomas. But he -- he took on the so-called experts.

And -- and really kind of took him to the woodshed. What were your thoughts on that?

ALAN: Well, I agree with that. I devoted my whole life to challenging experts. That's what I do in court.

I challenge experts all the time. But most of the major cases that I've won, have been cases where experts went one way, and we were -- persuaded a jury or judge. That the expert is not really an expert.

Experts have become partisans, just like everybody else.

And so I'm glad that expert piece is being challenged by judges.

And, you know, experts ought to challenge judges, judges challenge experts. That's the world we live in. Everybody challenges everybody else. As long as all of us are allowed to speak, allowed to have our point of view expressed, allowed to vote, that's democracy.

Democracy does not require a singular answer to complex medical, psychological, moral problems. We can have multiple answers.

We're not a dictatorship. We're not in North Korea or Iran, where the ayatollah or the leader tells us what to think. We can think for ourselves, and we can act for ourselves.

GLENN: Yeah. It's really interesting because this is my argument with Obamacare.

I was dead set against Obamacare. But I wasn't against Romneycare when it was in Massachusetts. If that's what Massachusetts wants to do, Massachusetts can do it. Try it.

And honestly, if it would work in a state, we would all adopt it.

But the problem is, that some of these things, like Romneycare, doesn't work. And so they want to -- they want to rope the federal government into it. Because the federal government can just print money. You know, any state wants to do anything.

For instance, I have a real hard time with California right now.

Because I have a feeling, when they fail, we will be roped into paying for the things that we all knew were bad ideas.

Why? Why should I pay for it in Texas, when I know it wouldn't work?

And I've always wanted to live in California, but I don't, because I know that's not going to work.

ALAN: Yeah. But conservatives sometimes take the opposite point of view.

Take guns, for example.

The same Justice Thomas says that I state cannot have the authority to decide that guns should not be available in time square.

Or in schools. There has to be a national openness to guns. Because of the second apple.

And -- you can argue reasonably, what the Second Amendment means.

But, you know, conservatives -- many conservatives take the view that it has to be a single standard for the United States.

It can't vary in their decision how to control -- I'm your favorite --

GLENN: Isn't that -- doesn't that -- doesn't that just take what the -- what the Bill of Rights is about, and turns it upside the head?

I mean, it says, anything not mentioned here, the states have the rights.

But they -- they cannot. The federal government cannot get involved in any of these things.

And these are rights that are enshrined.

So, I mean, because you could say that, but, I mean, when it comes to health care, that's not in the Constitution. Not in the Bill of Rights.

ALAN: Oh, no.

There's a big difference, of course.

The Second Amendment does provide for the right to bear arms.

The question is whether it's interpreted in light of the beginning of the Second Amendment. Which says, essentially, a well-regulated, well-regulated militia. Whether that applies to private ownership as well.

Whether it could be well-regulated by states.

Look, these are interesting debates.

And the Supreme Court, you know, decides these.

But all I'm saying is that many of these decisions are in some way, influenced by ideology.

The words of the Constitution, don't speak like, you know, the Ten Commandments and God, giving orders from on high.

They're often written in ambiguous terms. Even the Ten Commandments. You know, it says, thou shall not murder. And it's been interpreted by some to say, thou shall not still, the Hebrew word is (foreign language), for murder, not kill. And, of course, we know that in parts of the Bible, you are allowed to kill your enemies, if they come after you to kill you, rise up and kill them first.

So, you know, everything -- human beings are incapable of writing with absolute clarity, about complex issues.

That's why we need institutions to interpret them. The institutions should be fair.

And the Supreme Court is sometimes taking over too much authority, too much power.

I have an article today, with gay stone.

Can had starts with a quote from the book of Ruth.

And it says, when judges rule the land, there was famine.

And I say, judges were not supposed to ever rule, going back to Biblical times.

Judges are supposed to judge.

People who are elected or pointed appropriately. Are the ones supposed to rule.

GLENN: Quickly. Two other topics. And I know you have to go.

If I can get a couple of quick takes on you.

The Democrats that are being handcuffed, and throwing themselves into situations.

Do you find that to be a sign of a fascistic state or a publicity stunt?

ALAN: A publicity stunt. And they would knit it. You know, give them a drink at 11 o'clock in the bar. They will tell you, they are doing this deliberately to get attention.

Of course, a guy who is running behind in the mayor race in New York, goes and gets himself arrested. And now he's on every New York television station. And probably will move himself up in the polls.

So no.

Insular -- I don't believe in that. And I don't believe we should take it -- take it seriously.

GLENN: Last question.

I am proudly for Israel.

But I'm also for America. And I'm really tired of foreign wars.

And I think you can be pro-Israel and pro-America at the same time.

I don't think you can -- you don't have to say, I'm for Israel, defending themselves, and then that makes me a warmonger.

I am also very concerned about Iran. And have been for a very long time.

Because they're Twelvers. They're Shia Twelvers. That want to wash the world in blood. To hasten the return of the promised one.

So when they have a nuclear weapon. It's a whole different story.

ALAN: No, I agree with you, Tucker Carlson, is absolutely wrong, when he say he has to choose between America first or supporting Israel. Supporting Israel in this fight against Iran, is being America first.

It's supporting America. Israel has been doing all the hard work. It's been the one who lost its civilians and fortunately, none of its pilots yet.

But America and Israel work together in the interest of both countries.

So I'm -- I'm a big supporter of the United States, the patriarch. And I'm a big supporter of Israel at the same time.

Because they work together in tandem, to bring about Western -- Western values.

GLENN: Should we drop a bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should.

GLENN: Our plane drop the bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should. And without killing civilians. It can be done. Probably needs four bombs, not one bomb. First, one bomb to open up the mountain. Then another bomb to destroy what's going on inside.

And in my book The Preventive State, I make the case for when preventive war is acceptable. And the war against Iran is as acceptable as it would have been to attack Nazi Germany in the 1930s. If we had done that, if Britain and France had attacked Nazi Germany in the 1930s, instead of allowing it to be built up, it could have saved 60 million lives. And so sometimes, you have to take preventive actions to save lives.

GLENN: What is the preventive state out, Alan?

ALAN: Just now. Just now.

Very well on Amazon.

New York Times refuses to review it. Because I defended Donald Trump.

And Harvard club cancelled my appearance talked about the book. Because I haven't been defending Harvard. I've been defending President Trump's attack. By the way, they called Trump to Harvard: Go fund yourself.
(laughter)

GLENN: Okay.

Let's -- I would love to have you back on next week. To talk about the preventive state. If you will. Thank you, Alan. I appreciate it. Alan Dershowitz. Harvard Law school, professor emeritus, host of the Dershow. And the author of the new book that's out now, The Preventive State.

I think that's a really important topic. Because we are -- we are traveling down the roads, where fascism, on both sides, where fascism can start to creep in. And it's all for your own good.

It's all for your own protection. Be aware. Be aware.

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