RADIOOctober 12, 2022

THIS Labor Dept. rule would DESTROY your economic freedom

Biden’s Labor Department recently proposed a new rule that not only would result in jobs lost, but it would CRUSH your economic freedom as well. Carol Roth, economic expert and author of ‘The War On Small Business,’ joins Glenn to explain how this policy would flip the gig economy upside down — along with the millions of contracted workers within it. And even worse? Roth says the big players involved — like Uber and DoorDash, for example — could survive such a change. But it’s far less likely the small business owner could say the same. This is a BIG win for BIG business, BIG government, and the BIG unions…

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GLENN: Okay. So Uber, DoorDash, plunged in the stock market, as the labor department proposes gig worker change. What does this mean?

CAROL: So I wrote about this in the war on small business. This is one of those things that sounds really nice in theory. And is absolutely terrible for economic freedom. This is basically taking California's AB5 law. And we know that California is, you know, the stomping ground, the place where they test every bad idea that they want to take national. And they basically said, if you are an independent contractor, hmm that's not really going to work for us anymore. We're going need to you. Unless you have your own business entity, and start running yourself like a business entity, we are going need to you to be an employee. And that creates all kinds of issues. Not just for Uber and Lyft. They like to sell it. As we're going after the big guys.

But really, for 32.6 million small businesses and the 53 million people, who want to have flexible work -- because as a small business owner, for me to have to bring somebody on, when I might only need them, once a month, during a business season. Or what not. Now I have to make them an employee. I have to pay insurance for them. I have to pay their portion into Social Security.

It may screw up my 401(k) plans, and my set plans, and all these kinds of things. Because now you have all these employees who weren't employees and now are employees. And it just trickles through your business. I, as a small business owner, can't afford that. These bigger guys, they have access to capital.

They have big human resource departments. They, even though some of them are fighting it, you know, some of them love it. Because it shakes out all of the competition, and then from your standpoint, it takes away your economic freedom.

You know, they like to talk about choice. Well, what about your work, your choice? Why do you not get to work?

I want to work flexibly. I want to work, maybe one day on Uber. One day on DoorDash. One day on something else.

And the idea that just because -- you know, somebody uses your platform from time to time to earn money. I mean, is your babysitter going to become your employee now? The guy who does your shoeshine. You use him every week. So why is he not your employee?

But this is a giveaway to the unions.

GLENN: Unions.

CAROL: To the big special interests. And to certain big businesses, that will crush economic freedom in this country.

GLENN: It is -- I just had a guy from DoorDash. We ordered something from some restaurant. And they forgot a salad. Now, I wasn't disappointed. My wife was disappointed.

This guy comes, and he is so great. And usually, when you have a salad, as they're walking back to their car, you can have like two pizzas missing. And they'll like, yeah. Call them. And they'll just deduct it.

This guy was like, no. No, no, no, no. I'll go pick it back up.

I'll let him know the mistake. And I'll go pick it back up. And we're like, no, really, you don't have to. It's a salad. And I'm bargaining. Please, don't, I'll pay extra, if you don't go get it. He said, no, no, no.

I have to go get it. I tried to tip him. He wouldn't take a tip. He said, you know what, I have crashed -- my life has crashed. My wife left me. She was cheating on me. He said, I've gone back to school. I'm going to get my doctorate in whatever.

And he said, I'm providing a good service. You've already tipped me enough. I want a fair deal. And I want to do my job with integrity. And I thought, this guy is fantastic.

CAROL: Where can we hire this guy? Did you get his phone number?

GLENN: I know. He's fantastic. Just totally fantastic.

But he's looking at it because he can do that, when he has time. When he's not studying or going to school.

CAROL: Right. Exactly.

GLENN: That is huge for the American people. Huge.

CAROL: We have all kinds of job openings. We have 1.67 jobs open for every person.

If you want to become an employee, you have that opportunity. People don't want that. They want the flexibility. They want the opportunity to be their own boos.

Do what they want to do on their time, and you have the government saying, I'm sorry. We can't make a contract together. I can't do what I want. And say, Glenn, I'm going to work with you, from time to time. That's not okay. We will dictate that to you. We want more taxes. We want to interfere. And what ends up happening is it takes those jobs away.

It makes them go away. Because the reasons these models exist around the gig economy, is because they are independent contractors. And it works for beet parties.

When they go out and survey these independent contractors. And say, would you rather be employees?

The overwhelming majority say, no!

So the only people that are benefiting. Again, big special interests. Big government. Big business.

GLENN: Yeah. Is -- I mean, can they just do it? Can the labor department just do this?

PAT: There will be a comment period. And I will put something up on my Twitter. We need people in -- just like you vote. You need your voices. Call your representatives. You need to comment. Tell them to keep the government out of economic freedom. Let people work the way they want to work. Absolutely no on this.

GLENN: Do they actually listen to the comment thing?

CAROL: So I have been told that, you know, so few people. Maybe not the comments. But when you call your reps. So few people actually pick up the phone and call, that if they get 20 calls. They're freaking out. That's like a barrage.

So you actually can. If you get a group of people together, make a difference. Because it's kind of like Twitter. You know, all of a sudden, a few people start saying something. And then everybody is saying this.

It's that squeaky wheel, that gets the oil.

That vocal minority, that can affect change. And especially right now, everybody is on edge, with the economy.

GLENN: Yeah. Last thing we should do is start cutting jobs.

CAROL: Yeah. Exactly. Seems like not a great idea.

GLENN: One last story, federal reserve announced six large banks are going to participate in pilot climate scenario, of social credit system.

What the hell -- what does this -- I think I know what that means. Do you know exactly what this means?

Because they're saying, oh, no, no, no.

This is just -- everything that is bad is a conspiracy theory. This is -- we're just trying to see this climate thing, play out, to see if we can be stable and if the credit score thing will work?

CAROL: Yeah. I mean, whatever they're saying it's not going to be, you can pretty much count on, that's what it's going to be. And that's the concern over the Federal Reserve potentially rolling out a currency they control, a central bank, digital currency. Not control where they control the money supply, but where they can actually control the one that you own. And they can program it. And they can take away your ability to use it. And all those kinds of things.

So my guess is sort of what they're piloting. They're already talking about CBDCs. They're already trying to develop that.

And so much like we've seen, some private companies try to do lately. But say, well, you know, we're not happy with -- you ate too much meat, this month, and so we're not going to let you buy this burger.

We're just going to shut that access down. But, hey. If you buy the healthy salad. You can access it. If not, you'll have to wait to access the money.

Again, the opportunity here for just massive control, and lack of economic freedom, is the most un-American thing I can think of.

GLENN: There was one other thing, that I wanted to talk to you about. We talked about it yesterday. Gosh, it was just in my head yesterday, it just slipped out. I can't remember.

CAROL: PayPal. Central Bank, digital currencies.

GLENN: Yeah. Well, PayPal is what I'm going to get into tomorrow, because we just ran out of time. PayPal, you know, they said, oh, yeah. We're -- that was a mistake. All of that stuff.

Did you see what happened, Stu?

STU: They're saying they're going to fine --

GLENN: Yeah. They said they were going to fine people, $2,500. You know, if you broke their standards.

Their standards were way broad. And then they came back and said, how did that policy come in here? We must have mice in the equipment here.

CAROL: And it was specific to misinformation. Because there are actually a couple of other things, that they still fine you for, that they didn't take away. This is a new thing that they added around misinformation. The question is why is a payment provider, hiring a team, to monitor information.

Like, on what planet does that make sense, other than the planet that we've been talking about? Where, you know, all these different forces, come together. And basically, you know, expire, using my word. To take away your economic freedom.

GLENN: So let me just give you this.

Dan Schulman. You know who he is, Stu?

He's the head now, of PayPal.

And his folks, and this is all on his stuff.

Democratizing and transforming financial services and ecommerce, to improve the financial health of billions of people, family and businesses all around the world. He has vast experience with payments and mobile technology.

He's now leading PayPal to, quote, reimagine how people move and manage money. And how merchants and consumers interact and transact.

That's great. PayPal has now been listed as one of the top companies on just capital. Capital letters. Just -- just capital.

CAROL: Just.

GLENN: And Forbes' just 100 list. Featuring companies doing right by America. PayPal has also been recognized as fortune change the world company for its work on tackling the biggest challenges facing society.

Dan's leadership. Now, listen to this. An impact to be recognized by several notable organizations.

When I hear this --

CAROL: Can I guess? Can I guess? Is it the World Economic Forum?

GLENN: Well, when you hear this, you'll think, holy cow, what are they washing this guy for?

He is one hundred black men of New York honor Dan with the excellence in economic empowerment award. New York Urban league presented him with the Frederick Douglass Award. Let's see.

In 2021, he also received the Voices of Solidarity Award, presented by vital vices.

He has won the Oak Crown Honor, presented by prime minister Xavier Bettel. In 2020, the Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights Award.

He won the Ripple of Hope Award. Dan was recognized by Endeavor Global with the high impact leader of the year award. For his work --

CAROL: Anything financial on that list, Glenn?

GLENN: So far, no. So far, no. However, he's on the Council for Economic Education.

CAROL: Okay.

GLENN: Dan was recognized with the Brandon Legacy Award, in honor of the late Supreme Court justice. You know, who he had a lot in common with common human dignity, with her.

Also, he's a doctor of humane letters. Blah, blah, blah.

Now, ranked third on Fortune's list of the world's greatest leaders. This guy cannot get more awards, right?

He's top 20 businesspersons of the year. Name one of the most 100 creative people. One of the top 50 CEOs. Top ten most innovative CEOs in banking.

He's also a life member of the Council of Foreign Relations. He's also with the World Economic Forum as a member of their international business council. And the Board of Governors. And the board of stewards, for the future of financial and monetary systems platformed.

CAROL: Shocked. Shocked. I tell you, when I heard the word reimagined. The last thing that came into my mind, was the World Economic Forum. Shocking.

GLENN: Yeah. And he's not just on -- with the world economic forum. He is part of the WEF International Business Council.

CAROL: Lord. And you know what is so crazy, go back to who were the two founders of PayPal was the merger of Elon Musk's X.com and Peter Thiel. These guys who are so interested in freedom and free speech. And now look what it's become. We'll have to get them to come back and save PayPal too.

GLENN: I know. I know. They're both embarrassed what it has become. Both embarrassed. Thank you so much, Carol. We'll talk again.
CAROL: It's such a pleasure.

GLENN: Carol Roth. CarolRoth.com/Glenn.

EXPOSED: Tim Walz's shocking ties to radical Muslim cleric

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is directly connected in more ways than one to a radical Muslim cleric named Asad Zaman. Zaman's history and ties are despicable, and despite Walz's efforts to dismiss his connection to Zaman, the proof is undeniable. Glenn Beck heads to the chalkboard to connect the dots on this relationship.

Watch the FULL Episode HERE: Glenn Beck Exposes TERRORIST SYMPATHIZERS Infiltrating the Democrat Party

Is there a sinister GOP plan to SELL national parks?

Is Sen. Mike Lee pushing a sinister plan to sell our national parks and build “affordable housing” on them? Glenn Beck fact checks this claim and explains why Sen. Lee’s plan to sell 3 million acres of federal land is actually pro-freedom.

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GLENN: Now, let me give you a couple of things, from people I generally respect.

Chris Rufo, I really respect.

I'm totally against selling this land.

Nobody is going to build affordable housing deep in the Olympic Peninsula, which is one of the most beautiful places in the country.

I agree, it's in Washington State. It's on the coast. And it's a rain forest.

I want my kids hiking, fishing, and camping on those lands, not selling them off for some tax credit scam. This is a question I want to ask Mike Lee about.

That's really good. Matt Walsh chimes in, I'm very opposed to the plan. The biggest environmentalist in the country are and always have been, conservatives who like to hunt and fish.

We don't just call ourselves environmentalists, because the label has too much baggage.

And the practice always just means communist. Really, we are naturalists in the tradition of Teddy Roosevelt, and that's why most of us hate the idea of selling off federal lands to build affordable housing or whatever. I want to get to affordable housing here in a second.

Preserving nature is important. It's a shame we haven't -- that we've allowed conservation to become so left-wing coated. It never was historically.

No, and it still isn't.

You're right about one thing, Matt. We are the best conservatives. We actually live in these places. We use these places. We respect the animals. We respect the land. We know how the circle of life works. So I agree with you on that.

But affordable housing. Why do you say affordable housing or whatever?

Are you afraid those will be black people? I'm just playing devil's advocate? Are you just afraid of black people? You don't want any poor people in your neighborhood or your forest?

That's not what they mean by affordable housing.

And I know that's not what you mean either.

But what -- what we mean by affordable housing is, if you take a look at the percentage of land that is owned in some of these states. You can't live in a house, in some of these states, you know. Close to anything, for, you know, less than a million dollars. Because there's no land!

There's plenty of land all around.

Some of it. Let's just talk about Utah.

Some of it is like the surface of the moon!

But no. No. No.

Not going to hunt and fish on the surface of the moon. But we can't have you live anywhere.

I mean, you have to open up -- there is a balance between people and the planet. And I'm sorry. But when you're talked about one half of 1 percent, and we're not talking about Yellowstone.

You know, we're not. Benji Backer, the Daily Caller, he says, the United States is attempting to sell off three million acres of public land, that will be used for housing development through the addition of the spending bill.

This is a small provision to the big, beautiful bill that would put land in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado. Idaho. New Mexico. Oregon. Utah. Washington, and Wyoming at risk.

Without so much as a full and fair debate by members of both sides of the political aisle.

You know, I talked -- I'll talk to him about this.

The irony is, the edition of this provision by Republican-led Senate goes entirely against conservation legacy of a conservation. President Trump made a promise to revive this legacy.

Yada. Yada. Yada.

More about Teddy Roosevelt.

Then let me give you this one from Lomez. Is Mike Lee part of a sinister plan to sell off federal land?

This plan to sell off public lands is a terrible proposal that doesn't make any sense under our present circumstances and would be a colossal political blunder. But I'll try to be fair to base Mike Lee.

And at least have him explain where this is all coming from.

Okay. I will have him do that in about 30 minutes.

Let me give you just my perspective on this.

I'm from the West. I love the west.

I don't hike myself.

I think there's about 80 percent of the people who say, I just love to hike. And they don't love to hike. They never go outside.

I'm at least willing to admit. I don't like to hike. But I love the land. I live in a canyon now. That I would love to just preserve this whole canyon in my lifetime. I'm not going to rule from the grave. But in my lifetime, to protect this, so it remains unspoiled. Because it is beautiful!

But we're talking about selling 3 million acres of federal land. And it's becoming dangerous.

And it's a giveaway. Or a threat to nature.

But can we just look at the perspective here?

The federal government owned 640 million acres. That is nearly 28 percent of all land in America!

How much land do we have?

Well, that's about the size of France.

And Germany. Poland.

And the United Kingdom, combined!

They own and hold pristine land, that is more than the size of those countries combined!

And most of that is west of the Mississippi. Where the federal control smothers the states.

Okay?

Shuts down opportunity. Turns local citizens into tenets of the federal estate.

You can't afford any house because you don't have any land!

And, you know, the states can't afford to take care of this land. You know why the states can't afford it?

Because you can't charge taxes on 70 percent of your land!

Anyway, on, meanwhile, the folks east of the Mississippi, like Kentucky, Georgia. Pennsylvania.

You don't even realize, you know, how little of the land, you actually control.

Or how easy it is for the same policies, to come for you.

And those policies are real.

Look, I'm not talking about -- I'm disturbed by Chris Rufo saying, that it is the Olympic forest.

I mean, you're not going to live in the rain forest. I would like to hear the case on that.

But we're not talking about selling Yellowstone or paving over Yosemite or anything like that.

We're talking about less than one half of one percent of federal land. Land that is remote.
Hard to access. Or mismanaged. I live in the middle of a national forest.

So I'm surrounded on all sides by a national forest, and then BLM land around that. And then me. You know who the worst neighbor I have is?

The federal government.

The BLM land is so badly mismanaged. They don't care what's happening.

Yeah. I'm going to call my neighbor, in Washington, DC, to have them fix something.

It's not going to happen.

If something is wrong with that land, me and my neighbors, we end up, you know, fixing the land.

We end up doing it. Because the federal government sucks at it.

Okay.

So here's one -- less than one half of 1 percent.

Why is it hard to access that land?

Well, let me give you a story. Yellowstone.

Do you know that the American bison, we call it the buffalo.

But it's the American bison.

There are no true American bison, in any place, other than Yellowstone.

Did you know that?

Here's almost an endangered species.

It's the only true American bison, is in Yellowstone.

Ranchers, I would love to raise real American bison.

And I would protect them.

I would love to have them roaming on my land.

But you can't!

You can't.

Real bison, you can't.

Why? Because the federal government won't allow any of them to be bred.

In fact, when Yellowstone has too many bison on their land, you know what the federal government does?

Kills them. And buries them with a bulldozer. Instead of saying, hey. We have too many.

We will thin the herd.

We will put them on a truck. Here's some ranchers that will help repopulate the United States with bison. No, no, no. You can't do that.

Why? It's the federal government. Stop asking questions. Do you know what they've done to our bald eagles.

I have pictures of piles of bald eagles.

That they'll never show you.

They'll never show you.

You can't have a bald eagle feather!

It's against the law, to have a feather, from a bald eagle!

If it's flying, and a feather falls off, you can't pick it up. Because they're that sacred.

But I have pictures of piles of bald eagles, dead, from the windmills.

And nobody says a thing.

Okay.

But we're talking about lands.

States can't afford to manage it.

Okay. But how can the federal government?

Now, this is really important.

The federal government is, what? $30 trillion in debt or are we 45 trillion now, I'm not sure?

Our entitlement programs, all straight infrastructure, crumbling.

And yet, we're still clinging to millions of acres of land, that the federal government can't maintain. Yeah, they can.

Because they can always print money.

We can't print money in the state, so we can't afford it.

Hear me out. The BLM Forest Service, Park Service, billions of dollars behind in maintenance, roads, trails, fire brakes.

Everything is falling apart..

So what's the real plan here?

Well, the Biden administration was the first one that was really open about it, pushing for what was called 30 by 30.

They want 30 percent of all US land and water, under conservation by 2030.

But the real goal is 5050.

50 percent of the land, and the water, in the government's control by 2050.

Half of the country locked up under federal or elite approved protection.

Now, you think that's not going to affect your ability to hunt, fish, graze, cattle. Harvest, timber, just live free. You won't be able to go on those. It won't be conservatives, who stop you from hunting and fishing.

It will be the same radical environmental ideologues, who see the land, as sacred, over people!

I mean, unless it's in your backyard. Your truck. Or your dear stand, you know, then I guess you can't touch that land.

Here's something that no one is talking about, and it goes to the 2030.

The Treasury right now, and they started under Obama, and they're still doing it now.

Sorry, under Biden.

And they're doing it now. The Treasury is talking about putting federal land on the national ballot sheet. What does that mean?

Well, it will make our balance sheet so much better.

Because it looks like we have so much more wealth, and we will be able to print more money.

Uh-huh. What happens, you know. You put something sacred like that, on your balance sheet, and the piggy bank runs dry.

And all of the banks are like, okay.

Well, you can't pay anymore.

What happens in a default?

What happens, if there's catastrophic failure. You don't get to go fish on that land. Because that land becomes Chinese.

You think our creditors, foreign and domestic, won't come knocking?

What happens when federal land is no longer a national treasure, but a financial asset, that can be seized or sold or controlled by giant banks or foreign countries.

That land that you thought, you would always have access to, for your kids, for your hunting lodge, for your way of life.

That is really important!

But it might not be yours at all. Because you had full faith in the credit of the United States of America.

So what is the alternative?

Supreme Court UPHOLDS Tennessee trans law, but should have done THIS

The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in favor a Tennessee law that bans transgender surgeries for minors. But famed attorney Alan Dershowitz explains to Glenn why “it should have been unanimous.”

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GLENN: Alan Dershowitz, how are you?

ALAN: I'm doing great, how about you?

GLENN: It has been a really confusing week. I'm losing friends, I think, because I stand with Israel's right to defend themselves. And I'm pointing out, that while I don't want a war, Iran is a really bad place.

And then I see, the Supreme Court comes out best interest there are three justices are like, I don't know. I think children, you know, can change their identity before we even let them drive or carry a gun. Or enlist in the military.

It's insane!

ALAN: It is insane. Especially since the radical left said that -- 17 and a half-year-old -- voluntary sex with their boyfriend. That would be sexist, that would be horrible.

But they can consent to have an abortion. They can consent to have radical surgery, that can't be reversed.

By the way, the decision is like six to two and a half. Elena Kagan, my former colleague at Harvard, didn't reach the merits of whether or not a state could actually ban these operations on a minor. She got involved in whether or not you need super, duper scrutiny, or just super scrutiny, a kind of, you know, a very technical thing.

But she didn't rule on whether under any kind of scrutiny, the state could do that. So definitely, two of them said that the state could do it, but not necessarily a third one.

GLENN: Okay.

Can you break this argument down? And why it should have been unanimous?

ALAN: Oh, it should be unanimous. There's no question.

States under the Constitution, have the authority to decide medical issues. States decide a whole range of medical issues. I remember when I was a young professor, there was an issue of whether or not one twin could be operated on to remove a kidney, to be given to another twin.

And, you know, that case went all the way through -- the federal government never got involved in that. That was up to the state of Massachusetts. They made interesting decisions.

Some states go the other way.

Half the countries of Europe go one way. The other half go the other way. And just as Justice Brandeis once said that things are the laboratories of Constitutional experimentation.

They have the right to do things their own way. And then we'll see over time. Over time, I predict that we will find that this kind of surgery, is not acceptable scientifically for young people.

And the New York Times had an absurd op-ed yesterday. By the mother of a transgender person.

And it never mentioned. It originally said that the person was now 18 years old.

And the decision does not apply to anyone who is 18.

You know, just wait. Don't make irreversible decisions while you're 12 years old. Or 13 years old.

Because we know the statistics show, that some people, at least, regret having made these irreversible decisions, particularly. Yeah.

GLENN: So why is it -- why is it that the state. Why wasn't the argument, you can't do this to children?

ALAN: Well, you know, that's the question.

Whether or not if the state says, you can do it to children, that violates the Constitution. I think states are given an enormous amount of leeway, this. Deciding what's best for people.

You leave it to the public.

And, you know, for me, if I were, you know, voting. I would not vote to allow a 17-year-old to make that irreversible decision. But if the state wants to do it. If a country in Europe wants to do it. All right!

But the idea that there's a constitutional right for a minor, who can't -- isn't old enough to consent to a contract, to have sex, is old enough to consent to do something that will change their life forever, and they will come to regret, is -- is absurd.

GLENN: So I don't know how you feel about Justice Thomas. But he -- he took on the so-called experts.

And -- and really kind of took him to the woodshed. What were your thoughts on that?

ALAN: Well, I agree with that. I devoted my whole life to challenging experts. That's what I do in court.

I challenge experts all the time. But most of the major cases that I've won, have been cases where experts went one way, and we were -- persuaded a jury or judge. That the expert is not really an expert.

Experts have become partisans, just like everybody else.

And so I'm glad that expert piece is being challenged by judges.

And, you know, experts ought to challenge judges, judges challenge experts. That's the world we live in. Everybody challenges everybody else. As long as all of us are allowed to speak, allowed to have our point of view expressed, allowed to vote, that's democracy.

Democracy does not require a singular answer to complex medical, psychological, moral problems. We can have multiple answers.

We're not a dictatorship. We're not in North Korea or Iran, where the ayatollah or the leader tells us what to think. We can think for ourselves, and we can act for ourselves.

GLENN: Yeah. It's really interesting because this is my argument with Obamacare.

I was dead set against Obamacare. But I wasn't against Romneycare when it was in Massachusetts. If that's what Massachusetts wants to do, Massachusetts can do it. Try it.

And honestly, if it would work in a state, we would all adopt it.

But the problem is, that some of these things, like Romneycare, doesn't work. And so they want to -- they want to rope the federal government into it. Because the federal government can just print money. You know, any state wants to do anything.

For instance, I have a real hard time with California right now.

Because I have a feeling, when they fail, we will be roped into paying for the things that we all knew were bad ideas.

Why? Why should I pay for it in Texas, when I know it wouldn't work?

And I've always wanted to live in California, but I don't, because I know that's not going to work.

ALAN: Yeah. But conservatives sometimes take the opposite point of view.

Take guns, for example.

The same Justice Thomas says that I state cannot have the authority to decide that guns should not be available in time square.

Or in schools. There has to be a national openness to guns. Because of the second apple.

And -- you can argue reasonably, what the Second Amendment means.

But, you know, conservatives -- many conservatives take the view that it has to be a single standard for the United States.

It can't vary in their decision how to control -- I'm your favorite --

GLENN: Isn't that -- doesn't that -- doesn't that just take what the -- what the Bill of Rights is about, and turns it upside the head?

I mean, it says, anything not mentioned here, the states have the rights.

But they -- they cannot. The federal government cannot get involved in any of these things.

And these are rights that are enshrined.

So, I mean, because you could say that, but, I mean, when it comes to health care, that's not in the Constitution. Not in the Bill of Rights.

ALAN: Oh, no.

There's a big difference, of course.

The Second Amendment does provide for the right to bear arms.

The question is whether it's interpreted in light of the beginning of the Second Amendment. Which says, essentially, a well-regulated, well-regulated militia. Whether that applies to private ownership as well.

Whether it could be well-regulated by states.

Look, these are interesting debates.

And the Supreme Court, you know, decides these.

But all I'm saying is that many of these decisions are in some way, influenced by ideology.

The words of the Constitution, don't speak like, you know, the Ten Commandments and God, giving orders from on high.

They're often written in ambiguous terms. Even the Ten Commandments. You know, it says, thou shall not murder. And it's been interpreted by some to say, thou shall not still, the Hebrew word is (foreign language), for murder, not kill. And, of course, we know that in parts of the Bible, you are allowed to kill your enemies, if they come after you to kill you, rise up and kill them first.

So, you know, everything -- human beings are incapable of writing with absolute clarity, about complex issues.

That's why we need institutions to interpret them. The institutions should be fair.

And the Supreme Court is sometimes taking over too much authority, too much power.

I have an article today, with gay stone.

Can had starts with a quote from the book of Ruth.

And it says, when judges rule the land, there was famine.

And I say, judges were not supposed to ever rule, going back to Biblical times.

Judges are supposed to judge.

People who are elected or pointed appropriately. Are the ones supposed to rule.

GLENN: Quickly. Two other topics. And I know you have to go.

If I can get a couple of quick takes on you.

The Democrats that are being handcuffed, and throwing themselves into situations.

Do you find that to be a sign of a fascistic state or a publicity stunt?

ALAN: A publicity stunt. And they would knit it. You know, give them a drink at 11 o'clock in the bar. They will tell you, they are doing this deliberately to get attention.

Of course, a guy who is running behind in the mayor race in New York, goes and gets himself arrested. And now he's on every New York television station. And probably will move himself up in the polls.

So no.

Insular -- I don't believe in that. And I don't believe we should take it -- take it seriously.

GLENN: Last question.

I am proudly for Israel.

But I'm also for America. And I'm really tired of foreign wars.

And I think you can be pro-Israel and pro-America at the same time.

I don't think you can -- you don't have to say, I'm for Israel, defending themselves, and then that makes me a warmonger.

I am also very concerned about Iran. And have been for a very long time.

Because they're Twelvers. They're Shia Twelvers. That want to wash the world in blood. To hasten the return of the promised one.

So when they have a nuclear weapon. It's a whole different story.

ALAN: No, I agree with you, Tucker Carlson, is absolutely wrong, when he say he has to choose between America first or supporting Israel. Supporting Israel in this fight against Iran, is being America first.

It's supporting America. Israel has been doing all the hard work. It's been the one who lost its civilians and fortunately, none of its pilots yet.

But America and Israel work together in the interest of both countries.

So I'm -- I'm a big supporter of the United States, the patriarch. And I'm a big supporter of Israel at the same time.

Because they work together in tandem, to bring about Western -- Western values.

GLENN: Should we drop a bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should.

GLENN: Our plane drop the bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should. And without killing civilians. It can be done. Probably needs four bombs, not one bomb. First, one bomb to open up the mountain. Then another bomb to destroy what's going on inside.

And in my book The Preventive State, I make the case for when preventive war is acceptable. And the war against Iran is as acceptable as it would have been to attack Nazi Germany in the 1930s. If we had done that, if Britain and France had attacked Nazi Germany in the 1930s, instead of allowing it to be built up, it could have saved 60 million lives. And so sometimes, you have to take preventive actions to save lives.

GLENN: What is the preventive state out, Alan?

ALAN: Just now. Just now.

Very well on Amazon.

New York Times refuses to review it. Because I defended Donald Trump.

And Harvard club cancelled my appearance talked about the book. Because I haven't been defending Harvard. I've been defending President Trump's attack. By the way, they called Trump to Harvard: Go fund yourself.
(laughter)

GLENN: Okay.

Let's -- I would love to have you back on next week. To talk about the preventive state. If you will. Thank you, Alan. I appreciate it. Alan Dershowitz. Harvard Law school, professor emeritus, host of the Dershow. And the author of the new book that's out now, The Preventive State.

I think that's a really important topic. Because we are -- we are traveling down the roads, where fascism, on both sides, where fascism can start to creep in. And it's all for your own good.

It's all for your own protection. Be aware. Be aware.

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