RADIOApril 04, 2025

How Trump Can FIGHT the Democrat Dark Money Resistance

Who’s funding all the massive protests against Elon Musk, DOGE, and President Trump? And, if they’re not grassroots, can Trump do anything to fight back? Glenn speaks with “Bannon’s War Room” co-host Natalie Winters, who makes the case that the same progressive dark money groups that keep popping up, including George Soros’ Open Society Foundations, are the brains behind the operation. She lays out a few ways that Trump and congressional Republicans can push back against these groups and their “color revolution paradigm.”

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GLENN: Natalie winters, co-host of Ben's war room.

And also, White House correspondent. Welcome, Natalie. How are you?

NATALIE: Hi, good. Thank you so much for having me.

GLENN: Thank you for all of the hard work on so many stories. But this one in particular is really disturbing.

Because it shows that this is nothing, but the same revolutionaries, and this time, they are pushing into the zone of terrorism.

NATALIE: Kelly. And I think the most concerning thing here, is that sort of proves our worst caricature of the Democratic Party, which is that the last four years, they used tools like censorship, lawfare, overregulations. Political persecutions. To go after not their enemies. But people who disagree with them.

And now that they have effectively been shut out, right? Of their institutional and government levers of power.

They can't impeach President Trump. So what are they doing? I guess what Marxists always do, not just show in a preference for private property and try to destroy Tesla. But they're using violence and intimidation. And I think the way that the left has tried to depict these actions. As organic civil society.

Just, you know, speaking about democracy.

And democratic values.

There's nothing civil about this.

We have terrorism.

And, frankly, there is nothing societal.

These people are being funded by far left donors, like George Soros, like the Tides Foundation. The same state money, dark money interests that funded basically every violent protest, we've seen since Trump really entered the stage.

GLENN: Yeah. I mean, literally the oligarchs that they say, that Elon Musk is.

It's --

NATALIE: You're exactly right.

GLENN: So tell me about some of the people that are behind this.

NATALIE: Sure. So Indivisible is sort of the ring leader of all of this. And their biggest refrain that they are always pumping through the airwaves, is that they are a grassroots organization. That they are people-funded and people-powered.

But if you dig into their financials, which as you alluded to, they have essentially erased all of their web pages showing the personnel of their movement, but from the sort of 990 filings where you can see, again, by design.

Not exactly who is funding them.

But overwhelmingly the majority of the funds that support this group come from big dark money type foundations or philanthropic organizations.

The NGOs of the world. That's obviously a euphemism.

But of that, the majority of it, and I'm talking. Seven-plus million dollars, since 2018 alone. It's coming from George Soros' Open Society Foundations. And like I said, when they tell you that they're funded by people in this people power.
It's not true. And in some cases, most recently.
They were doing a whole thing.

I'm sure your audience has seen this apoplectic thing, that House Republicans are not showing up in town wall. Well, Indivisible was behind that.

And they were actually reimbursing their groups. In some cases, $200 to buy all the protests that they needed for that.

And they have a separate program, where they'll reimburse groups up to $1,500 for get out vote operations.

Advocacy and recruitment.

The idea that this is all organic.

And that Trump is just angering Americans so bad by going against waste, fraud, and abuse.

It's not true.

It's the same people who funded the protest outside the DNC. The flag burners.

And frankly, it's the same people who fund inside the DNC.

GLENN: How do we -- how do we reverse this?

Let me see if I can pull this up here. There's a new poll out that shows from Rasputin. Are the attacks on Tesla and Tesla vehicles, justified?

Nineteen percent of Americans said, yes!

Among the respondents, ages 18 to 34, that was 36 percent that said, they are justified!

Among respondents that are Democrats, 31 percent say they are justified.

When asked, is it fair to call the attacks on Tesla and Tesla vehicles a form of domestic terrorism? Overall, only 46 percent say yes, 39 percent say no, 15 percent said, I'm too dumb to have an opinion.

Among the respondents who say they're Republicans, 68 percent said yes. The respondents who say that they're Democrats, 58 percent say they're no.

How do you keep people saying, and a growing number of people saying, no. It's totally cool to shoot that guy in front of a hotel, because he works for an insurance company. And we have burned down the Tesla. And we can find people in our own neighborhood that have them, target them, and destroy their lives, until they take a stand with us. And say, they believe what we're doing. And they sold their Tesla.

How do you get so many Americans to get behind that?

NATALIE: I think there are two key things that the Trump administration could do to push back on that. First and foremost, I think would be provoking the tax-exempt statuses of a lot of these organizations that are organizing these protests because they're essentially all 5O1C3s, which is absolutely insane.

And I think it is continuing to press ahead on the Act Blue investigation.

And just in general, the dark money funding.

But also, a lot of the money for groups, for example, there's a new thing called the resistance lab, which is being spearheaded by Representative Pramila Jayapal in conjunction with Harvard -- in that, they're not a prestigious Kennedy school. And though they have similarly deleted the web pages, some of their top funders are, other than USAID. And the Department of State. And the lady who runs it. Who uses they/them pronouns, so make your own judgment there.

But she herself has been funded extensively by USAID. The United States Institute of Peace. And I think it's important to drill down on this figure. Because this is someone who is not studying protests and nonviolence. This is someone who, their CE reads like a rap sheet. They're studying terrorism and violence versus non-violent protests.

Not because violent protests are immoral or unethical. But because they think at this moment, non-violent protests are more effective in bringing out their sort of utopian Democratic world view, and I use democracy, not in its true sense.

But these people are extremely, extremely radical. And I think what it goes back to, is what we started this interview on.

They have always used this color revolution paradigm to institute change, and to oppose President Trump. It's why they take him as an autocratic, as an authoritarian.

Right? Because then they can justify their outside the system regime change tactics that they've used abroad. And since they usually rely on impeachment proceedings, or contested election results, they can't do that. Right? They didn't take the House. President Trump won the popular vote, overwhelmingly.

So they're relying on this narrative, that what he's doing is so unpopular. And they sort of AstroTurfed outrage and protest and intimidation tactics.

To really this one myth they can't be President Trump is a dictator that must be opposed at all costs.

GLENN: What is -- I mean, I agree with you that Trump needs to go after the 5O1C3s.

I mean, I'm a little disappointed in Pam Bondi.

However, I say that, realizing, she doesn't even have her full team around her.

It's taking so long.

But I'm hoping that the justice departments starts to move a little quicker on things. Because this is -- this is clearly terrorism.

It is clearly, these -- these organizations, that, as you've said, have been taking money from the taxpayer. To do all of these things.

And the only way to stop them, I think, is to not just call them out.

But if they're breaking any kind of law. Which they clearly are.

Go after them with everything we have.

NATALIE: Yeah. And I think these radical judges have been stepping in at every point. It's a continuation of the lawfare.

And I think the fundamental issue. Look, you had all these Republicans talking tough about how they're so difficult. Where were they on the USAID front? All this waste fraud that was uncovered for decades. They did absolutely nothing.

Now the best we can get, is not even a full committee hearing but a subcommittee hearing that's been postponed on judges with some experts to tell us and confirm what we know.

That these people are radical targets and activists.

It's so unfortunate. Because our side. Our grassroots are fueled by patriotism. Not dark money. Not George Soros money.

And they have such amazing investigative reporters. You go on X now.

People are the ones exposing these groups.

And elected Republicans that should be enforcing. We're not even telling them to go after the groups in an autocratic, no despotic way. We're just saying, enforce the laws, enforce the facts that we should not be receiving tax exempt statuses or 5O1C3 statuses. Or go after the election billionaires. I mean, the case that they've been unable to make against right-wing billionaires, who are trying to root out waste, fraud, and abuse.

We need to juxtapose them to actual, I will argue criminal cases that you could bring against a ton of Western billionaires who are clandestinely and covertly funding terror operations here in the United States. Not just since January 20th. But for years on end, the issue I think starts with the weak faculty at the Congressional Republicans, who just have continually showed that they are unwilling to do anything.

GLENN: When is Trump going after them?

I would love Trump to give a speech today on a few things. One, okay. I just did the tariffs. The tariffs are not going to work by themselves.

I need actual tax reforms. Tax cuts. And a tax cut is not renewing the Trump taxes that are going to be raised. That's not a tax cut. That is a tax cut eight years ago. Give us a significant tax cut Congress. And also, I'm taking a hatchet to the regulations beginning right now. And anybody who wants it to stand around with their hands in their pocket, that's fine. But we cannot stand around and wait.

The time is too short to stand around and wait.

I'm looking for him to start, really pushing, you know, eyes into people's heads just a little bit.

Saying, excuse me.

The pressure is on me.

The pressure is on the population of the United States.

Do your damn job, Congress. Right now.

NATALIE: Well, and it's quite interesting, right?

Because you hear President Trump get criticized for "flooding the zone." They say, it pejoratively. But flooding the zone is just a response to the absolute disarray and chaos that President Biden left this country in.

We have to flood the zone with executive orders and action after action and tariffs after tariffs because of what happened in Afghanistan, at the Southern border, cost this country with Chinese spy balloons.

Right? It's such a double standard. And Congressional Republicans, the same people who were joining the DOGE caucus, and posting all their pictures, and talking their tough game on Twitter. They're voting to continue spending levels. At the very same -- and the Senate is already moving to try to make so President Trump can unilaterally oppose tariffs.

You know, the Senate is the people who have been there probably than I've been alive, who allowed the Chinese Communist Party, who allowed these Third World countries to overtake our manufacturing jobs, to seize essentially our means of production.

And they did nothing about it. Because their donors, the people who have been funding them. Got rich off of it, and enjoy it. And their constituents, the people who knock on the doors for them, donated to them small-dollar amounts, they have nothing, but contempt for them.

And you can see it on display. And, frankly, it's insulting to the intelligence. Your audience, abandoned war room audience when they think that just some tweet, or some strongly-worded letter.

Or some, you know, halfhearted hearted hearing against the judge, who has no really enforcement power.

It will be enough to satisfy us.

The MAGA movement is about shifting the goalposts for accountability.

And I think our audience has been very clear, that it's found in prison sentences. And in investigations for people who have committed crimes. And not just strongly worded letters. Or, you know, Fox news segments where people are going off.

And did nice spicy rants. And these criminals keep getting away with it.

GLENN: Yep. Natalie, thank you so much. We'll talk to you again. Thank you for all the hard work you do. Sincerely, thank you.

NATALIE: Likewise, thank you.

GLENN: You bet. That's Natalie Winters, White House correspondent, and also co-host of Steve Bannon's War Room.

Energy Secretary reveals Trump's plan to LOWER your electricity bill

President Trump's Energy Secretary, Chris Wright, joins Glenn Beck to discuss Trump's plan to lower your electricity bill. While he says it can't happen every night, he assures Glenn's listeners that Trump is asking for updates on this "every single day." Plus, he reveals how the administration plans to cut red tape, use nuclear energy, and stop the immature closure of coal plants to boost American energy.

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GLENN: Okay. We have Chris -- Chris Wright on. US Energy Secretary. We are concerned about our energy, and thank God, Donald Trump. Can you imagine how bad this would be, if Joe Biden's policies would have continued? Thank God we're doing a lot of really good things. But I wanted to get a sense from Chris, on where we are, and what he thinks of what's happening in Maryland, and the warning, that Goldman is giving this week?

Chris, welcome to the program.

CHRIS: Thanks for having me on, Glenn. Yeah. You hit the hot topic, right away.

GLENN: Okay. So I would assume that you agree with what Goldman said?

CHRIS: Oh. Absolutely. In fact, we've released a report from the department, just a few weeks ago. And if you had continued the Biden policies, which are to permit and subsidize energy sources that might be there. Might not. They generally aren't there at peak demand.

If we had continued those policies, they would have shut down another hundred gigawatts of firm production capacity, that's there when you need it. And they have permits to improve and planned to add -- add 22 gigawatts of that. Check out 100, add 22.

So a net loss of 78 gigawatts, to an electricity grid that's already tight, that already delivers blackouts and peak demand. They were on a trajectory to increase blackouts by 100 fold, by the end of the first Paris term, if she had won that election.

It is just -- we were driving over a cliff, and they were hitting the accelerator to go faster. It's ridiculous.

GLENN: What really bothered me was the policy that when they shut these plants down, we would actually pay the power companies, to shut these down, if they dismantled the coal power plants. They actually could get subsidy. If they made sure, there was no going back into that.

Which I found terrifying, and horribly irresponsible.

CHRIS: Glenn, it's just crazy. An environmentalist melted down a few weeks ago, when I used my authority at the Department of Energy, to stop the closure of a one and a half gigawatt coal plant in southwestern Michigan.

Oh, you're going to post tax -- costs on the -- we don't know that coal plant. It's slated to close.

Two days later, there was a blackout in my zone, the Midwestern independent system operator. Two days later, that plant was running at full capacity. It would have been massively worse. Crisis would have been massively higher.

You just talked about Baltimore. We also stopped the closure of a very old power plant in Baltimore, but a critical power plant that keeps the lights on at peak demand, that's also running at full capacity as we speak today and has for much of the last few weeks.

Oh, no. We don't need it. We're going to close it. It -- it's just when politics gets in the middle of energy, it truly impacts people's lives.

At least the blackouts. Rising costs. You know, we had 30 percent rise in power prices during just four years of President Joe Biden.

And now we're going to launch the AI race against China? And we are going to have our lights going off, without data centers, without new industry in our country?

Just thank God, the American people, overwhelmingly elected President Trump. We brought common sense back. We're swimming seven days a week, to try to fix the train wreck they left us. So it's exciting. It's more stressful than I would like. But I can assure you, we're headed in the right direction now.

GLENN: So what really bothers me, is how dangerous nuclear power is, and how we can't use that.

Even though, that solves the global warming thing. We've never been able to have that. We have to reduce our power usage. You know, go back to the good old days in, I don't know, medieval times. And -- but now that AI is here. Now that the big tech companies step up and say, no, no, no. We -- we have to have power for AI. Now all of those rules are out the window.

Which -- which bothers me so much, because it is -- it's as if the left and the power structures, don't really care about the average person. And them having power.

They care about these big corporations, and -- and AI being able to have compute power.

But not the average person. And it's -- it's -- it's disgusting.

It's really disgusting.

CHRIS: I -- I think that's right, Glenn.

It also shows that they never really cared about incremental changes in greenhouse gas emissions. The climate change thing is mostly a classroom for power. We're going to decide the way the world works. And make rules for you.

Because you stupid rubes out there in America, you can't make your own decisions.

We must make them for you. But yet, they were never about a rational approach to reduce greenhouse gases.

They don't even know that much about greenhouse gas emissions.

You said, they hated nuclear then. Now they see we're on a train wreck. They don't want to admit their climate alarmism was wrong. And wildly exaggerated.

Now, nuclear power is okay.

Because we need. We need these data centers, these big companies need power. It's not just -- it's not just those crazy routes in Middle America, like you and I.

GLENN: So, you know, in your report, you said, you know, we will increase blackouts by 100 times in the next five years, if we don't keep more base load power online.

How rapidly are we going to see these nuclear power plants, et cetera, et cetera, being built?

And is it only to serve those server farms, or are we going to redo the American power grid, itself?

CHRIS: It will be across the grid. So it is an exciting development, Glenn.

But it's the government. It's this overweening, fear-mongering government that actually smothered and killed nuclear industry, for most of the last four decades. So since it's been my mothered for so long, it will take time to get that ball really moving. We will have an already closed nuclear power plant, back open in Michigan. Later this year, January. Hopefully, at the latest.

You know, there's some developments that will happen in the next few months.

But most of it, will take a few years.

Really, what's going to feed the data centers that are going to be built, and the reindustrialization of our country.

And keep the lights on, and our air-conditioning on in the summertime.

Most of that is going to come from stopping the closure of the coal plant.

GLENN: Right.

CHRIS: That the Biden administration and Obama administration wanted to shrink our ability to generate electricity.

And it's going to come from the expansion and rapid construction of new natural gas burning power plants. Natural gas is, by far, the biggest source of electricity.

It's by far the lowest cost -- source of new electricity. So we are doing everything we can, to permit, allow the construction of natural gas plants as fast as possible, and removing these ridiculous requirements.

That, well, if you spend a billion dollars to build a new power plant, within six or seven or eight years, you're going to have to capture all the carbon dioxide emissions, and eject them underground. No matter how much it costs. No matter how much it burdens our power sector.

The direction they were in, just didn't care about American people, or American business.

GLENN: How long before we see these things? I mean, you know, China is building at the speed of at least one coal power plant, a week. They are building nuclear power plants. They are on an energy surge right now.

They know what's coming.

How -- how -- when should we see this actually starting to happen? And how long before power prices come down?

CHRIS: Oh, man. That is -- that is the big question. President Trump asked me that, every single day. Every single day. Let's get oil prices down. Let's get gas prices down. Let's get electricity prices down. And it takes a while to build infrastructure.

Fortunately, quickly, we can stop the closure of coal plants and still have lots of lifetime left. We've already done that.

That's why we don't have much worse blackouts, already today. We do have new gas plants coming on this year, a lot more coming on next year. We will have nuclear plants on, later this term. We will have a whole bunch of them under construction. But yet, to turn the giant, you know, aircraft carrier that is the electricity grid, that's going to take a few years. But hopefully, we can watch the huge rise in prices.

We can build the capacity so that the United States can keep our lead on artificial intelligence over China.

We get behind China, and they control AI, our national security is at risk.

GLENN: Yeah. I know.

CHRIS: The whole administration is seven days a week, working on this effort.

I see dramatically fewer blackouts this summer, than you would have, had the election gone the other way.

And I think we will be in a little better situation next summer. And somewhere in between there, this winter. We're rapidly swimming the right way.

I wish, I could say power prices are going down 20 percent next year. But it's simply not possible to do that, in 12 months. But I will tell you, President Trump is seven days a week doing everything he can, towards that goal.

GLENN: What regions are the worst in the country?

As far as stability and prices?

CHRIS: The Midwest.

You know, the -- the -- where that Michigan coal plant was kept open.

Where that nuclear power plant will reopen later that year. The Midwest Independent System Operator, that's our tightest region.

The southeast and PJM, where Washington, DC, is in the mid-Atlantic states.

They're rapidly getting tighter as well. Everything in the inner connection cue that was new to come on, is a wind or solar project.

But when it's dark out, and when it's really hot, and you're in a high-pressure system.

And the wind doesn't blow. Those things don't help to meet demand. They just provide electricity -- well, you don't know when. But at some points in time, that's not very helpful for an electricity grid. But we're going to stop the closure of the firm capacity.

And we are doing everything we can. We are permitting and approving plants, every week. New construction, new plants, that will be built. And that be here to provide relief to Americans in the next 12 to 24 months.

GLENN: And the most stable region?

CHRIS: The -- the most stable region is actually Texas. Which is by far the biggest electricity grid. They produce more than twice as much electricity as California. And just -- just a little bit less nonsense in Texas.

They still went crazy on the wind stuff. They still have more expensive, and less stable grid than they had ten years ago.

GLENN: Yeah. They do.

CHRIS: But they also have the mindset and the regulatory regime to fix their problem. Texas is rapidly growing its firm capacity, and they will stay out of this crisis, probably a little faster than the more Biden-influenced rest of the country.

GLENN: Hmm. I can't thank you enough for everything you guys are doing. I'm -- I'm amazed at -- at how rapidly you guys have turned things around.

I'm just -- I'm thrilled at the work, you all are doing.

And, Chris, you really are leading us in energy.

And I really appreciate that. Thank you.

CHRIS: Appreciate you, Glenn. Appreciate all your viewers. We're doing everything we can.

We think about the American people. That's the only agenda we have.

GLENN: Thank you so much, Chris.

That's our US Energy Secretary, Chris Wright.

The most COMPLETE look at the Deep State we've ever seen

Thanks to release after release of government documents by the Trump administration, we now have the most complete look at the Deep State - how it works, who's involved, and who's funding it - that we've ever had. Most recently, Just The News has released proof that former United States Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates told the FBI to shut down investigations into the Clinton Foundation. Glenn's head researcher, Jason Buttrill, joins to recap these latest revelations.

Watch Glenn Beck's full breakdown of the Deep State network HERE

Secret Docs Reveal the ENTIRE Deep State Network | Glenn TV | Ep 451

The recent declassifications from Tulsi Gabbard’s ODNI and the Durham annex give us a rare glimpse into something much bigger and deeper than the Russiagate hoax against President Trump. Glenn Beck heads to the chalkboard to connect the dots and map out how the entire deep state operation works. We reveal who the players are, where the funding comes from, and how they exert their influence. From international color revolutions to the Ukraine impeachment and the Russiagate hoax, everything is finally starting to make sense. John Solomon, CEO and editor in chief of Just the News, gives Glenn a sneak peek into a bombshell investigation that exposes how the deep state provided cover for Clinton Foundation corruption.