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EXCLUSIVE: Trump tells Glenn Beck who's REALLY running the country - and it isn't Biden or Harris

Former President Donald Trump speaks with Glenn Beck in an exclusive interview on the news of the day: Are prominent Democrats like Joe Biden and Bill Clinton sabotaging Kamala Harris’ campaign? Who’s really running the White House? Will Trump recruit Elon Musk to help clear out the Deep State if he wins? Will the 2024 election be secure? Are Democrats the new “hidden Trump vote”? Was he targeted by a third attempted assassin? Is the Secret Service doing its job now? Did Trump ask Biden for anti-missile aircraft? Can Tim Walz look any more fake while loading a shotgun? Can Kamala Harris look any more fake without her teleprompter? Was Bill Clinton right about Laken Riley and illegal immigration? How close are we to nuclear war with Iran, China, or Russia? How would Trump stop Russia’s war in Ukraine and Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah’s attacks against Israel? Why did the Biden administration let the Taliban take our military equipment during the Afghanistan withdrawal? Trump also explains why he believes Kamala Harris is “against religion…in her bones,” gives insider information on the government-funded program to house illegal immigrants in luxury hotels, and accuses Biden of not doing enough to stop Iran from planning more assassination attempts.

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Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Mr. President.

DONALD: Yes. Hi, Glenn.

GLENN: How are you?

DONALD: I'm good. I'm good.

GLENN: I hear you just got off the phone with Elon Musk. How did that go?

DONALD: I did. Oh, he's great. This guy, he's in a world all by himself. He's a fantastic guy. When I saw -- when I saw that rocket ship come down yesterday, I said, you've got to be kidding. The way it landed right -- right where it left, right? He's fantastic.

GLENN: Yeah. We were talking -- I think he is one of the greatest. I mean, Steve Jobs maybe is in his category.

I don't think -- I think he's the greatest mind and -- and not theoretical, actually doing stuff in my lifetime.

DONALD: Absolutely. He gets it done. There's nobody like him. And he's a big supporter. Which makes me feel good. He knows what's going on. He thinks it's the most important election ever.

GLENN: So are you -- have you been serious about allowing him to go in, and look for cuts and everything?

DONALD: Oh, sure.

You know, he's also a great businessman. I'm trying to figure out a better businessman. Or essentially scientist.

And he's faithful. He feels that there's tremendous fraud and waste and abuse.

Tremendous fraud, waste, and abuse.

He feels it's there. And you could save a lot of money.

And make lives better. Okay?

You get more for the buck.

But he feels so -- he doesn't want to be -- he can't do that.

You know, he's got so many things going on.

He wouldn't want to do that. He would like to do something, having to do with the budget.

Because there's tremendous ways to do that.

STU: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: And he's good at finding that.

I mean, the way he runs his companies. I mean, it's tremendous.

DONALD: He's maybe the best at finding it.

Oh, people love it.

And make people's lives better. Actually.

You know, make them better. Not worse.

GLENN: I know. It really is -- is such a statement.

That he's probably the -- the most effective person on the planet, of looking over the horizon, and then bringing tomorrow into today.

And the -- and the left because he likes you, he is -- I mean, they just -- they will shut him down.

DONALD: Yep. They will. They will try.

But he's hard to shut down.

Because he's so advanced. He's in a different playing field.

He's so advanced. You shut him down, you shut the country down, essentially.

Look at Starlink. Starlink in North Carolina. They call it. Any way you can call. And some great people in North Carolina, are suffering.

And, you know, they have no communications, whatsoever.

GLENN: I know.

DONALD: And I called him. And I didn't know much about Starlink. Other than, it's supposed to be good.

I called him. And he edited them immediately.

You know, they delayed him. They delayed him. They put a hold on what he did.

GLENN: I know. We were on the ground.

My charity, Mercury One was on Mercury One. We were one of the first people on the ground.

We were running, at the height, I think we were running 50 helicopters, and we had it all -- you know -- I mean, we had everything.

We were there with Elon's guy, when they started jerking his chain. They even came and tried to shut us down. And our guy looked and said, you know, you don't have a single helicopter here. We're saving people in the mountains. If you were here, maybe a week ago, sure.

But we're not shutting down.

I mean, it's -- it was really tragic, what they did.

DONALD: It's one of the worst rescues ever. And I think in a league with Katrina, which was pretty bad. Some people say it's worse.

GLENN: I think it is.

DONALD: And they actually have people -- private people like you, you go in with helicopters, you want to save people. And they're not -- they didn't let them do it.

GLENN: I know. I know.

DONALD: It's a little different. You can do things.

But, no. It's a terrible thing, Glenn. Terrible, terrible thing.

GLENN: You know, I think that's one of the biggest things. When you say, you know, we will take our country back. One of the biggest things I miss is the ability to just do things, that you feel are right, that are legal.

But to just take control of your own life.

The -- the government has grown so far out of control. It's in every aspect of our life. And it is the problem.

DONALD: And it's the nasty government.

It's a mean government. They weaponize government.

They've done things. And, you know, it's interesting. Because the people aren't very smart.

The people on top, that if they -- they're not on top. It's the people that surround them. They are smart.

And they are vicious.

And they're fascists, and everything else you can be.

It's a nasty group of people.


STU: So somebody is quite smart.

Sometime, historians will look back and say, this was a genius.

It was the biggest heist in human history.

It was horrible. But it was genius.

Who is actually the president, Mr. President?

DONALD: Well, I think it's a committee of people. And they may not even know themselves. Does that make sense?

It's a group of people, that are in different levels of DC.

And they surround a man that was not the most capable person.

GLENN: Yeah.

DONALD: By the way, never was.

But certainly not anymore.

And she's worse than he is. She's worse than he is.

And the difference is, she was a believer.
You know, she was a believer for a long time. She was a Marxist for a long time.

She's further left than Bernie. You've heard that many times.

But she's further left than Pocahontas, okay?

Pocahontas is probably further left than Bernie. I think. I don't know. How you rate them, I would have to go by your scale.

I believe in your scale, maybe more than mine.

But if you think about it, you know, we have some people. And she is considered the most left, in the entire Senate.

And not the smartest. And not by any means, the smartest.

In fact, the opposite.

GLENN: But she is -- I mean, when you say she's worse.

We were talking yesterday, Mike Lee, about, you know, her centerpiece legislation, when she was in the Senate.

Which I think was called do no harm.

And it just dismantles religious freedom.
Just entirely dismantles it.

They are --

DONALD: You know. When we were in a group together. For the audience to know.

We spent a lot of time, yesterday, with the Latter-day Saints, and some incredible people. And people of religion too.

Just people of religion. And she's against religion, and it's in her bones.

She's against religion. And I don't know how people can vote for her. Like, we were talking about -- not so much you talking about -- because we have such a lead there. We were talking about Arizona. And, you know, if you take a look at Arizona.

And I would certainly say Nevada. And you have a lot of Latter-day Saints, Mormons there. And we got -- I think we're at 88 percent. I mean if we got 1 percent more, or 2 percent more, this whole country would turn around. Because if we won those two, we would be in awfully good shape to win the whole thing, as you know. So we spent time together. It was great. And when I mentioned your name, I will say -- I mentioned Glenn's name, everyone in the place went crazy. So they like you. They like you a lot. That was a big audience.

GLENN: Yeah. It was amazing. They're electric. I mean, I -- you at one point, leaned over to me and said, what's your gut say?

And, you know, the -- you know the figures. Better than I do. My gut says, you're accelerating at exactly the right time.

And as I said to you, but for cheating.

DONALD: That's the biggest risk.

GLENN: You've told me, that we've made a lot of good headroom -- headway on that.

DONALD: Well, I think just by nature, that we don't have COVID. They used COVID to cheat. And they did so many things, so many different things.

But just the fact that they didn't get legislative approval. I mean, you don't have to go any further than that.

They actually go for legislative approval. Not get it. Let's say, it's a Republican legislature. Not get it. And then do it anyway.

It was just terrible. They used COVID to cheat.

Now, that, number one, that in and of itself, makes it better now.

But they're a very devious group. And you know it better than anybody.

You talk about it openly. A lot of people, they're afraid to talk about it.

You're not afraid to talk about it.

GLENN: Well, once you've been threatened by George Soros. Once you've been threatened by George Soros. Everything else has kind of, meh.

DONALD: But I've seen his man, Gascon is down by 30 points in a poll.

GLENN: Amen, which is so crazy. It's so crazy. Kamala Harris is cut from that exact same cloth.

DONALD: Yeah. Oh, that's another -- that's a way of talking about it. You know, I had a tremendous rally the night before. The night before yesterday.

And it was unbelievable.

And we -- and you heard it. 140,000 people.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. Coachella.

DONALD: And I said, if we had an honest election.

If we had God coming down to be our vote counter.

Wouldn't it be great if we could ask God to do it? That would be the ultimate vote counter, right? Because you would have honest. But if we had God come down, I think I would do great. I think we would do great in California. I think we would win it.

I think we would win it. You know, they sent out like 38 million ballots, 36 million ballots, they go all over the place. And then they come pouring back.

And it's -- you know, when you go and vote, it's a really good solid state. Where you have -- and they look at you.

And they want your ID. Even if you're Trump.

Could I see your license?

STU: Yeah. Yeah.

GLENN: You really can't get away with it. There's nothing to get away with.

They don't have computerized machines. They have paper ballots.

They have voter ID. And everything else.

Right?

STU: Have you talked to Elon Musk about this? Because I think -- you know this. We can transfer billions of dollars, and not a penny is lost.

We do it all day long. And it's fine.

How come we can't get the technology, to lock this into place?

Especially with block chain?

DONALD: So Elon is the number one for mechanical devices. Including computers. And he said, the only way to do it really safely is with paper ballots. That's something, huh? He said, I consider myself to be the world's greatest expert for all such things. This type of equipment, right? I would say, I would put him in the number one place. When you look at that rocket, the way it landed, I would certainly put him in the number one place.

And, you know, he's --

GLENN: Paper.

DONALD: He's concerned, because those -- you can make things swing. And you can make things do a lot of bad things. He said, but you can't do that with paper ballots. Believe it or not, they have paper now, that's actually very sophisticated.

GLENN: Yeah, yeah.

DONALD: Very highly.

When you hear paper. But it's very sophisticated stuff. But voter ID is very important. And now in California, as you know, better than I do, because you talk about it a lot. But the California things is amazing with Gavin Newsom, where you're not even allowed to ask somebody whether or not they have voter ID. If you do, I think it's a criminal act or something.

GLENN: That's crazy.

DONALD: It's shown our country has gotten totally crazy.

GLENN: You and I were talking the other day about the -- the hidden Trump vote.

And I want to ask you, your thoughts on something. I think there's actually a hidden Trump vote, that is going to come from Democrats. Because they didn't convince people of these policies.

They scared them into it.

They taught them.

Shut your mouth.

And just go along with it. And I think reasonable Democrats are going. This doesn't work.

I don't want my kids being talked to by, you know, a teacher in secret. That's -- that's the sign of a predator. I am paying more for my groceries. I can't do it anymore.

And I think there's a -- a slice of the Democrats, that might tell everybody, they're for Kamala.

But will go in and vote for you. What do you think of that?

DONALD: So I think the biggest thing. You know, you see the polls. And the polls have the economy and inflation. Number one, on inflation. I view them as the same thing in a sense. I think the inflation and economy, you can wrap them up into one.

I actually think, and I may be wrong. But not wrong by much, but I think the biggest thing that people are going to be looking at and voting on is what's happening on our border, where murderers are allowed to come in. Where drug dealers are allowed to come in, and just destroy our country. Literally destroy it.

And inflation is a destroyer of our country too. It's a different kind of a destroyer.

It's not as mean as having guys coming in with machine guns. Yes. Go ahead.

GLENN: Go ahead. Well, I was going to say. I don't know if you've heard this yet. I want to play some audio. This is Bill Clinton, today, talking about Laken Riley. Listen to this.

BILL: You had a case in Georgia, not very long ago. You think about -- about a young woman who had killed by an immigrant.

Yeah. Well, if they had all been properly vetted, that probably wouldn't have happened. But if they all are properly vetted, that doesn't happen. And America is not having enough babies to keep our population up. So we need immigrants, that have been vetted to do work. There wouldn't be a problem.

GLENN: I mean, he sounds like he's campaigning for you.

DONALD: Yeah. Yeah. That's come a long way. You see, that's probably where they're going. Because they were for open borders. No talk. Anybody comes in. Just walk right into our country. Which is insane.

And now, all of a sudden, you hear people talking about, well, we need people to come in. Come in.

But the damage has been done.

We have 21 million people came in. Hundreds and thousands of those people are from prisons and gangs and drug lords and human traffickers and murderers. And they're here.

So we have a problem before -- he's a little late at saying it.

GLENN: I know.

DONALD: Because we have a big problem. We have people in our country that are going to be murdering a lot of people. Laken Riley is a beautiful young lady. I know the parents. I know everything about her. What happened to her is just horrible.

But you have many -- many, many cases, like that. Some you don't hear about that. Aurora is really bad. When you look at what these Venezuelan street gangs have done. They're formed.

And they have taken over buildings. Beautiful buildings.

GLENN: I know.

DONALD: In a very good place. And they're basically in the real estate business. You know, they've taken them over with machine guns, instead of --

GLENN: Right.

J.D. Vance was talking to Martha Raddatz. By the way, brilliant pick.

And she -- he says, Martha, are you listening to yourself? You think this little problem is -- is little?

There are Venezuelan gangs, that are running apartment buildings in America.

It's amazing what these people will try to excuse!

DONALD: Not believable.

JD has been great, by the way.

He's been great.

GLENN: Oh, I love him.

DONALD: And as good as he is, Walz, on the other side, I mean, is this man even a little intelligent? I mean, it's just -- it's just incredible. Those two.

GLENN: I know your son is a hunter. You have to ask him. Play that video of him trying to load the shotgun. I swear to you, I am fairly decent with guns. I would not hunt with that guy. He looks like he's dangerous with a gun. He's never done that. It's crazy.

DONALD: I think he was a horrible pick.

Now, we'll see how it works out on November 5th.

Because one way or the other, if they won, I guess he wasn't a horrible pick. But when I heard they picked him, I couldn't believe it.

And he's only gotten worse. And she's gotten worse too. You know, she's worse than Biden. I really believe that. She's worse than Biden.

And they're fighting like cats and dogs.

GLENN: So you think that's true?

DONALD: Oh, yeah. Well, no. He's angry. Because he got 14 million votes.

He was thrown out. This was an overthrow of a president.

This was an overthrow of an American president.

There's never been anything like that before.

He won the primaries. They came to see him. And they were like, we want you out.

I'm amazed he agreed to it, by the way. The truth is, he looks better than he ever did.

He looks better than he -- for five years. I don't know. Somehow, he didn't play well as president.

But he does play well, the way he's playing against, like with Ron. Ron DeSantis in Florida.

Done a good job. Very good on the hurricane. You know it's a tough job, but he's done a very good job. But the way he went at him, and just got creamed. And Biden who was on-site.

GLENN: I know. That's crazy.

And, you know, with that Bill Clinton clip. I'm just wondering. Are they just like, cutting her loose?

DONALD: No. I think they're trying to steer a different path, now.

I think they're seeing it's not working.

And we have a good run for three weeks.

I think they're seeing it's not working.

She's changed 15 million policies.

You're the all-time pro.

I would say, if you've seen any candidate for high office change two. It would be a lot.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

Remember, John Kerry, I think changed one or two things.

And he became the waffle man.

DONALD: That's right. No, he did.

And it didn't work. But she's changed 15.

From fracking. To crime. To this. To that.

To borders.

She all of a sudden wants to have a strong border.

And she acts like nothing happened.

Where was she for four years?

I've never seen anything like it. If you go back two years, just go back -- or just go back into their primaries. And listen to what she said and what she voted for.

And now every one of those things have been thrown out.

So I don't know. You know, let's see what happens. I can't imagine, you can get away with it.

But there's another thing that's called competence. And, you know, they tried the threat of democracy with me.

They tried it all. They tried everything.

But let's look at now, their competence. The woman is not a competent person.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

DONALD: And I think far less competent than Biden.

And I never thought I would be saying it. But there's something going on. I mean, I watched her with a teleprompter.

Her teleprompter broke. And she kept going.

GLENN: That was amazing.

DONALD: No. I said, what's going on with her?

GLENN: You've been in television. I've been in television. We know teleprompters. She had no idea what the next sentence was. She was saying 32, as if, hey, prompter person, I'm at the bottom of the page. It was crazy.

DONALD: Yeah.

If that -- and, you know what, she could even say, my teleprompter went off.

GLENN: Yes.

DONALD: And sometimes I do that. And then you go on to make your speech. You can't walk off the stage, right?

But a teleprompter is one of the most unreliable pieces of equipment. I can tell you. Sometimes -- like the crowd we had. That was a big crowd.

The night before, I had 101,000 people. You can lose that stuff. I figure teleprompters go out, 5 percent of the time.

And two or 3 percent of the time, where they're just gone.

GLENN: Jeez.

DONALD: I mean, I've had her blow up the stage. You know, it's windy, they're not very good, because they move like a (inaudible). They're very hard to hold back. They move. If a teleprompter is moving.

And I don't use the teleprompter that much anyway. If a teleprompter is moving.

It's a problem. If you are going to be in politics, you have to be able to, if and when. Because it's when.

But if and when the teleprompter goes, you know this.

You've got to be able to speak. And she was frozen.

And she's lucky that they came back. Because, you know, they snapped back. It's called a snap back. It snapped back for her. And then she started continuing reading.

GLENN: I wish it wouldn't -- I would have loved to see how she would have ended that.

DONALD: Well, I think it would have been a bad thing. She could have done the 321 more time, I'll tell you. She had exhausted the number 32, I can tell you, right?

GLENN: So what -- what frightens -- at least me, is she's not in control.

Biden is not in control. And they're talking about changing our nuclear strategy with Russia.

And I don't know who is making those decisions, and I have to tell you, Mr. President, I mean -- have you read Nuclear War by Annie Jacobson?

DONALD: Yes, I have. Yes.

GLENN: Okay. That's terrifying. I don't know how you would make the decision as president of the United States, that quickly.

DONALD: It's -- it's the biggest single threat -- when these people talk about global warming. And they worry about the ocean will rise in 300 years. By an eighth of an inch.

It's like, it just infuriates.

Now, at the same time, I don't even like talking about nuclear. That's how bad it is.

You know, during my administration, you probably never heard the word nuclear. I purposefully. And now you're hearing it every single day. You're hearing it all the time.

You know who issues it a lot, is Putin now. He's issuing that word a lot. And that will be -- there will never have been anything like that.

The level of power. I'm the one that rebuilt it.

I rebuilt all of our military.

I rebuilt it, at the highest level. In many ways, I hated to have to do the nuclear. But I did. Because we have no choice.

We have other countries. We have five other countries now. As they say, nuclear capable.

And that's too many. That's actually five too many.

The truth is, I think I would have had a deal with Russia. And with China. To denuclearize their stock. I really think we would have had that.

All three of us agreed on it. Conceptually, and I think we would have done that. But COVID came along, and we have to fight that battle.

And we fought it well. Never got credit for it, really. But we fought it well. I got credit for the economy. I got credit for the military. We have knocked out ISIS. Got the biggest tax cuts and regulation cuts and all that. But I never got cut. You know, nobody knew what this was. COVID came in. Was a gift from China.

GLENN: I got to tell you, the way they -- the way they say that you didn't do enough, when they were the ones bitching when you said, I've got to los to China. We can't have this happening. And they called you a bigot and everything. And now they're saying, you didn't close it fast enough.

DONALD: Yeah.

GLENN: Do they really believe the American people are goldfish?

DONALD: Well, the same people. Nancy Pelosi -- crazy Nancy, she was going crazy when I said, if I didn't close it from China then. And you know what, there were 11 people in the room.

And I was the only one that said, I want it closed. And you had to close it. We would have lost probably a couple of million people, more. And we really -- I mean, we would have lost millions of people more, had I not done that.

That was a great move. But nobody knew what this thing was. And everybody got hurt.

You know, proportionally, there were a lot of equals. They all got hurt. China got hurt late in the process.

It looked like China has really skirted the issue. It has really hurt China. It's hurting it right now.

They went to it, very, very -- now, they were different.

They locked them in, and they welded the doors closed.

And they forgot before it happened. You know, people died of starvation. Can you believe it? They welded --

STU: It's China.

GLENN: And then they -- either forgot or something happened, but they didn't unweld them.

It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. But that was a terrible thing.

GLENN: I have been bitching and complaining about the Secret Service for, hmm. Well, since Obama.

We have -- we have not been protecting our presidents. Rightly -- I mean, my people have gotten around the Secret Service.

However, I will tell you this, this weekend, I have never seen anything like the security that you have around you now.

It is top shelf.

And they said that you asked the president for rocket launchers or something, to protect your plane.

In case somebody shoots a rocket at the plane. Is that true?

DONALD: Uh-huh. Well, I better not get into it.

But they have stronger security around the plane. Very strong security.

STU: I know. I saw it.

GLENN: I mean, they have to -- the one thing we don't have is we don't have a president saying, if some country, Iran, where there's actually a threat.

That if they do anything to -- it's not me. It's the president. You know, former president.

And now leading in both parties, to be president.

If they do anything. We're going to obliterate the country. Because when you say that, that's the end of, they won't do anything.

But we haven't heard that.

But other presidents have issued, you know, like proclamations, as you've probably heard. There were two or three issued, that way, where even rivals.

Rivals were being threatened.

GLENN: Yeah.

DONALD: And certain presidents were able to get up, that if you do this, we will hit you so hard, that you won't have a country left. And when you do that, they say, well, let's take a pass. That's the way that works. But Biden is not -- is not -- I guess not willing to do that.

And that's pretty sad.

I would do it if I were him. I will tell you, if it was reversed, and I was where he was, and it was, you know, him. I would issue such a proclamation.

GLENN: You have to. You have to.

DONALD: You don't have a country.

GLENN: Yeah. You don't. You don't.

The Coachella guy who was -- he says he was a big fan. But they found guns in his car.

I don't know if this reached you. The campaign says, it really wasn't anything.

Local sheriff said, they felt that they had stopped a third assassination attempt. And he -- anything on that?

DONALD: No. I don't know. He said he was a big fan. And I know that. But he had some pretty nasty weapons in his car.

But he was away from the car.

The car was parked a long ways away.

Everybody. The place was.

101 -- I guess more than that.

But over 101,000 people there.

So it was a big crowd. He was very far away. But, you know, when you have that kind of weapons in the car, it's a little. It's not your -- these were not your standard weapon. Let's put it that way. They were not the greatest.

So we're living in a dangerous world. This is a world that is very dangerous. This is a world that is closer to World War III, than we've ever been.

There's never been anything like it.

And the problem like we said, the weaponry is at a level.

I always say, it's not two army tanks running around a field, shooting each other.

This is weaponry, that I know better than everybody every.

Because I see it. I rebuilt it.

And this is weapons. And weaponry, that it's not even imaginable.

And we really need smart people.

In government now.

We just can't go another four years, like we did with Biden. You know, I had Iran wanting to make a deal. They were going to make a deal. I would have a deal done within one weekend of the election.

They were -- they didn't have money.
They were -- there was no Hezbollah.

There was no Hamas. Because there was no fighting.

They couldn't give money.

They were there, but they couldn't give any money.

We had the best situation. He could have made a deal in one week.

And the big part of that deal was no nuclear weapons. Right? That was 90 percent of the deal. You know, I want them to do great. I wanted Iran to do great.

But no, the great people. You know, Iran, they're great people.

I know so many Iranians that are now living in America, and they're like really great people. Smart as can be. And wonderful and warm.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

DONALD: So we don't want to have a problem.

But they were broke. They had no money. I said, nope.

Can't do that. And you know why they had no money? Because of my policy. And they would have made a deal. They would have made a deal. I would have made that deal a week before the election.

And I want them to be really successful.

But one thing, they can't have nuclear weapons. And they're now like a month away from having a nuclear weapon.

That's a big problem. Now, we'll see what's going on with Israel. Who I think their stock has gone up very high, in the last month or so. Their stock has gotten very high as spiders. But it's very, very sad to see what's happened.

That -- that they would allow this to happen. Look, if I were president, Ukraine would not have been attacked by Russia. 100 percent.

GLENN: I know. Boris Johnson just said that. Did you see the Boris Johnson interview?

DONALD: I did. I did.

I saw that. He said, if Trump were there, it would have never happened. And it wouldn't have.

And I got along well with Putin, but it just would have never happened. What a shame. What a different -- you know what else wouldn't have happened?

Inflation. The most embarrassing day in the history of our country, wouldn't have happened, in Afghanistan. Wouldn't have happened.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Yeah. You know, you were talking about that the other day. And I have to correct one thing that you said. In Afghanistan, again, my charity was over.

We had the -- we ran the airport, over -- over there.

And we had all of the commercial airplanes, ready to go.

And the State Department kept screwing us.

And, I mean, in the end, we got 21,000 people out. And none of them came to America.

Because we didn't even trust our vetting. But we knew who we were bringing out. The State Department screwed us around, screwed us around.

They actually mocked us, at one point. And said, well, you need one more form. And they came up with a new form.

We said, we don't even know. We haven't heard of that form.

Where do we get it?

At the embassy in Kabul. And we're like, you closed the embassy. They actually laughed and said, I guess you will just have to figure that out.
And hung up on us.

So we finally made a deal with them.

You said, yesterday, they got all of the soldiers out.

No, sir. To get the -- the survivors, that we tried to get out. The 22,000. Our first plane had to be full of American soldiers, that they left behind.


DONALD: Hmm.

GLENN: That is -- that is crazy.

DONALD: What I mentioned was they took the soldiers out early.

The American soldiers.

They left. And we were left without soldiers.

And they should have taken the soldiers out last.

When I spoke to Abdul.

I said, no. You will not do anything more.

They were killing a lot of our soldier.

I know the people. And I had a very tough conversation with them.

From that point on, 18 months, and we didn't have one -- you know that.

GLENN: No, no, no. You can't. You can't.

You have to tell the story about the picture.

You cannot just gloss over this. This is one of the greatest negotiating things I've ever heard.

Tell the whole story.

DONALD: I had a conversation. And it was important to have it.

Because the Taliban. That's where the killing is.

Like I always say, Jesse James. He liked that. And they say, Jesse, Jesse.

Why do you always go after a bank? He said, because that's where the money is. Right? And in this case, the Taliban. Because that's who was doing all the killing in Afghanistan.

You know, that was the kill arm, right?

So I spoke to the head, he's still there.

Abdul. We had a good conversation. Tough conversation. Because they were killing a lot of American soldiers.

And they were with Obama and Biden. But they were really killing a lot of them.

And I got there. They were killing them.

And a lot of snipers.

And I had a conversation, a couple of conversations. But I had a conversation, and I don't want to go graphical into the conversation.

It was a tough conversation.

But you can't really repeat it. It's not appropriate.

And I had a conversation. And I essentially told them, don't do it. Don't do it.

I did have --

GLENN: Can I tell --

DONALD: Yeah. You can tell them. But I did send them something that was interesting. Go ahead.

GLENN: Yeah. So you had a picture of his house. And you said, if any of our soldiers die, I will kill you.

And you put the picture down and slid it across the table. And then you walked out.

I think that's brilliant. Just brilliant.

DONALD: Well, it was a phone conversation. But the phone conversation.

GLENN: Oh, okay.

DONALD: It was sent to him. And he said, but why do you send me a picture of my house?

During the phone conversation.

And I said, that, you'll have to figure out.

GLENN: That's great.

DONALD: We had -- regardless, we had no problem at all.

So we went 18 months, not one American soldier was killed or even shot at. And after 18 months, they did this horrible move.

GLENN: Yeah.

DONALD: And it was so bad. And, you know, we also gave up Bagram. So Bagram is one of the biggest bases in the world. And China is now occupying it. Can you imagine?

The reason I wanted it -- I would never have left that. I was planning on making upgrades.

What happened with Bagram, is it's one hour from where China makes its nuclear weapons. What an asset.

And now China is occupying it. Can you believe it? They give it up. They left it in the dark of night. They left the lights on.

And they left this massive thing, that cost us billions and billions and billions of dollars. The longest runways in the world, very powerful runways. Thick. Like 8 feet thick of concrete. You can land anything on it.

We left -- we just walked away from it.

GLENN: Jeez.

DONALD: And what a great thing. I would have never done that. We were having it staffed up and everything.

We would have left with strength and dignity. It wouldn't have been people falling off of airplanes. Very sad. Very, very sad.

GLENN: They're the --

DONALD: I think it was the most embarrassing day in the history of our country.

GLENN: It was, at least in my lifetime.

It -- we left the -- a lot of our arms and everything else there.

Is it true, they're now one of the largest arms dealers in the world. Selling the arms we left behind?

DONALD: So -- so we left billions and billions and billions of dollars of brand new beautiful equipment. Tanks. Trucks.

Thousands of trucks. Many of them armor-plated. They're million dollar trucks.

GLENN: Why wouldn't we at least blow them up, before we left?

DONALD: Because Milley was stupid. Milley said the same thing to me. I said, I think it's stupid to leave it behind.

I said, when -- if you have an airplane and it's new, and it cost $150 million to build it. You aren't going to put a tank of jet fuel in there and fly it out, to Pakistan, or directly home?

Sir, I think it's cheaper to leave it.

He was such a stupid guy. He was so stupid. He had no common sense. You know expression I say? The Republican Party is the party of common sense. Milley was a stupid guy.

And I can just see him telling that to Biden.

We left all that equipment.

Now if you look three weeks ago. They had a parade. They have a parade every year.

Running the equipment right down the middle of their Boulevard.

All beautiful American trucks.

And all. Mostly armor plated stuff.

Very, very expensive to build.

Very expensive equipment.

Riding it down like in a parade.

Talking about the dumb Americans.

No. What he's done to the country is such a shame. Between the borders and Afghanistan.

And allowing the war. If -- Putin would never have done that war.

Now you look at Ukraine. It's like a tell me litigation site.

The cities are knocked to the ground

Those beautiful golden towers are crushed, and laying on their side.

They were beautiful.

You can never rebuild it. You know, a whole civilization has been lost. Because don't forget, those cities have been obliterated.

GLENN: Oh.

DONALD: So many of them. And it's one thing, peace. What does it mean?

So many people have left. So many people have died.

Many more people have died, in Ukraine. Than they talk about.

You know, they'll have missiles hitting buildings. And they'll say two people were hurt.

You know, the building will collapse. And those are big buildings. Those are buildings, like two, three city blocks. Normal city blocks.

They were big buildings. I was amazed at the size of the apartment. That's what I did for a living, right?

And these were big apartment houses. Fairly tall. And really long.

And they had a lot of people. They were hitting them with missiles. The buildings would collapse. Just collapse down to the ground. And two people were hurt. No, no. Many, many people were killed.

When the death toll is really said in Ukraine, the numbers will be much higher than people think.

GLENN: You just said something that made me think -- and I know you have to go. So we'll keep this short.

You just said, what I do. I build buildings.

And it made me think of the hotels in New York.

That are now trashing their hotels. With illegals.

What's the game here?

What is the --

DONALD: Well, the owners of the hotel are his now operating a different product.

So they used to operate luxury hotels. And now they operate them to get government money. And they're making more money -- they have 100 percent occupancy at room rates, than they ever got.

And illegal migrants, living in the buildings. And you don't want to walk into there, Glenn, because you will probably not have a good chance of getting out. It's rough stuff going on.

I have friends that own these things. And they used to be luxury. And now what they are. They are hotels.

You know, a lot of people won't go back into those hotels too. You know, in terms of --
you're a luxury guest. If that ever comes back.

But these people are making a fortune. All they're doing is sending government bills.

Here's the saddest part. Outside those hotels, the migrants walk into these buildings that were luxury, but are being beat up and destroyed.

You know, there are fights in there all the time.

Rough, rough. These are tough people. These are not -- these are rough, rough people.

They make our criminals look like babies.
But, look, we have our veterans living on the sidewalk, right outside the main entrance. And you have migrants going into the hotels. How about that?

And so the military should never vote for her. And, frankly, I don't think anybody should.

People in religions shouldn't. The Latter-day Saints should not.

That's why we were there.

We want to get that vote.

Will you please get that vote?

GLENN: Okay.

DONALD: I will tell you, you cannot let them vote. Who could vote?

Any religion. I don't know what it is with the Catholics.

But they are really after the Catholics. How can the Catholics vote for them? It's a very sad time.

But we will have more conversations. You have been a great guy.

And you've really been terrific.

GLENN: I mean this, Mr. President. I do this for my children. I will door knock for you.

You just tell me, how I can help. I will be there. Thank you for everything.

DONALD: You keep your voice going. That's the most important thing. You have a very powerful voice. And good voice.

And it's for good. And I appreciate it very much. Thank you very much.

GLENN: You bet. Thank you. You bet, buh-bye.

THE GLENN BECK PODCAST

"Everything is For Sale" — How the Cartels Control Mexico's Government

It is widely accepted that the cartels in Mexico not only control significant swaths of land, but they also have incredible influence over how the country's government operates. Border Expert Brandon Darby sits down with Glenn Beck to explain exactly why this is the case and what the Trump administration's strategy truly needs to be in order to crush these powerful cartels.

Watch Glenn Beck's FULL Interview with Brandon Darby HERE

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We're being played. THIS is the REAL threat to America

Conservatives in America are being divided over the wrong things. Glenn Beck asks: Who’s the real threat to America: Sen. Mike Lee, who wants to sell 3% of federally-owned land to states and cities, or the rising radical communist wing of the Democratic Party, who recently chose Zohran Mamdani as their NYC mayoral candidate?

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GLENN: I want to talk to you about the enemy being clear. Crystal clear!

But I'm not sure to everybody.

I'm so sick and tired of us turning on each other.

We saw it with Elon Musk and Donald Trump. I like both men. Can we stop?

Thankfully, they did.

You're seeing it with Trump's bombing of Iran. Where you were either a Jew-loving Zionist or raging anti-Semite, or if you're me.

Both!

And then there's something that really caught me off-guard. The people who are turning on Utah Senator Mike Lee over a housing proposal, he's had this housing proposal since 2022.

But if you go on X, you're going to learn, apparently Mike Lee, one of the most Constitutional loving conservatives I know, wants to sell off our national parks and forest.

You know, he was probably in Coeur d'Alene lighting the matches, because he hates our forest so much. He wants to make sure you never get to hunt.

All he wants to do is take away your fishing and hunting rights. And build cheap housing complexes. Amazon warehouses. And whatever China and BlackRock want.

You know, I addressed this a few weeks ago. I invited Mike to clarify where he stands. Because some of my family are very concerned.

You can find the segments on my YouTube channel. Go and subscribe to my YouTube channel. Will you please? But since then, apparently, there's a crusade out to cancel Senator Lee.

There have been a few major updates. So today, let me just take a look at just the facts here, where we stand on this right now.

Over the weekend, Mike Lee decided to withdraw his federal land sale provision from the big, beautiful bill.

He said, quote, while this has been a tremendous amount of misinformation, and in some cases, outright lies about my bill. Many people brought forward sincere concerns.

Because of the strict constraints of the budget reconciliation process, I was unable to secure clear, enforceable safeguards to guarantee, these lands would never be sold.

Only to American families. Not to China. To not BlackRock.

And never to any foreign interests.

Wow! What a shill for the globalists, right?

Or maybe how it should work. Members of Congress propose something presented to the people. And then they listen to the community. Instead of just insisting, we have to pass it, to know what's in it.

And I didn't hear this kind of outcry for that!

Here's one of the bigger issues here. We're speaking two different languages.

A lot of criticism online is that Mike Lee wants to sell off our public lands!

Our public lands. Pragmatism to a lot of Americans, those lands are the lands we use for recreation. And hiking. And haunting. And fishing.

And things like that. That's whatnot he wanted to sell. And he promised to make that much clearer in the revised bill.

Now, let me remind you, on the public lands. President Biden, under his administration. The federal government was ordered to conserve 30 percent of our lands. And our waters by 2030. So apparently, our public lands are being gobbled up even more.

That's another, I think six percentage points. Another 6 percent of the entire land in the United States, going to be seized by the federal government, by 2030. And it falls directly in line with the UN's 30 by 30 plan.

It's an initiative for governments to seize 30 percent of all land and water by 2030. Now, do you think the UN wants to give you more hunting and fishing land?

Do you think they're all for that? Or do you think these radical environmentalists want to restrict your access in the name of fighting climate change?

By the way, current -- currently, the US government owns 640 million acres of land. That's nearly a third of the country. So they've almost met that 30 by 30 goal.

And they will meet it, and then what's next? The 50 by 50 UN goal.

And in order to seize the rest of the land, there's the Sustains Act that passed. Do you know about this? I didn't hear about any outcry for this.

Where was the right on this one? It was enacted in 2023, allows the government to receive private funds to advance conservation programs.

So BlackRock, if they wanted to, could buy up the conservation lands! Does your property contribute to pollination, photosynthesis. The air we breathe. The water we drink?

Well, as I -- as I exposed, on a show back in September, the Sustains Act allows all of that to be monetized through the relationship of private investors like Bill Gates. And the government!

And it occurs without the landowners permission.

So they can take your land. Or tell you exactly what you want to do, or what they want you to do on that land, what you cannot do on that land, because photosynthesis happens.

Where was I?

Where were you on that?

This is the real seizing of American assets.

This is the real seizing of American assets, by the global corporations. That you were all so afraid of!

Mike Lee, oh, my gosh.

What about the Sustains Act?

In his revised bill. Which he's still working on.

Lee has promised to remove all forest land. Good. Significantly reduce the amount of BLM land in the bill.

Good. Only land within 5 miles of population centers is eligible.

Yeah. But when he gets that, then he'll build buildings there, and then he'll have another five.

And next thing you know, he will be putting a cap on -- on Old Faithful.

He'll establish freedom zones to ensure these lands benefit American families. Ranchers. Recreational users. But there's a lot of claims online.

Whatever.

Charlie Kirk said, the Democrats -- this is their war on single family housing.

Hmm.

Do you remember when we talked on the program about the globalist plan of 15-minute cities. That all of BlackRock and everything else is for.

Remember when BlackRock came in, and just started buying up whole neighborhoods. Just priced every regular citizen out of the neighborhood.

Why?

Because it's part of the plan to pack the majority of humanity into easily controllable cities where everything you need is just 15 minutes away. And you never need a car. But is that the American dream?

Currently, rural land is getting so expensive. Most Americans can't afford rural land!

I know. I'm living in a place that has a population of 400 -- I think it's 51. Might have had a baby, so maybe it's 452. And nobody can afford it.

How is it possible you're living in the middle of nowhere, with a population of 451 people, and you can't afford a house!

The elites don't need Mike Lee's proposal. But take more of your land.

They're already doing that. But here's my biggest issue.

This is not about Mike Lee's proposal. Okay?

It's not.

There is a much bigger issue.


And I'll share that when I come back.

GLENN: Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. So I was talking about federal -- I want to get off that. I want to change to, instead, what the real problem here is.

What the real problem is. The real problem on the seizing of the federal lands. Is that we are so quick to turn on ourselves.

We are so quick, lately, to turn on our -- our allies.

See, that's -- the issue isn't Mike Lee's proposal.

It's how fast we turn on each other!

If you believe Mike Lee's proposal didn't go far enough to safeguard our land from adversaries. Great!

That's fine. And, you know what, you won!

He's revamping that.

He listened.

The government listened. Good!

But can you say that without calling him a traitorous shill for the elites?

I mean, I don't know what traitorous shill for the elites that actually listens.

Do you?

Donald Trump Jr. He was against my plan. He thanked him over the weekend for pulling the proposal saying, quote, Mike is a great friend. And we usually agree on almost everything. But this was a rare exemption of where we didn't! Hello!

We don't need to hear people tear each other down. Who is our real enemy?

Who is -- who is more dangerous?

Can we go to -- can we go?

I don't have number on these, unfortunately. Six.

Seven, eight, nine, ten. Let's go to cut ten, please, on whiter neighborhoods.

VOICE: I realized there's a policy proposal, and I'm going to quote it for folks to shift the tax burden from overtaxed homeowners in the outer bureaus toward expensive homes in richer and whiter neighborhoods.

Explain why you are bringing race into your tax proposal.

VOICE: That is just a description of what we see right now.

It's not driven by race.

It's more of an assessment of what neighborhoods are being undertaxed versus overtaxed. We've seen time and again, that this is a property tax system that is inequitable. It's one that actually Eric Adams ran on, saying that he would change in the first 100 days.

He since sought to defend it, and lost at every juncture in court.

VOICE: And I understand, you're saying, we're simply describing the types of neighborhood that would see these increases in taxes.

And yet by invoking race, do you run the risk of potentially alienating key constituents.

STU: I think I'm just naming things as they are. And ultimately, my -- the thing that motivates me in this, is to create a system of fairness.

It's not to work backwards from an original assessment of our neighborhood or our city. Rather, it's to ensure that we actually have an equal playing field.

And right now, what we see with the property tax system, is one that is overtaxing a number of New Yorkers and undertaxing others. And inability of political will to resolve that.

VOICE: So no plans to change that language on your website?

VOICE: The focus here is to actually ensure a fair property tax system, and the use of that language is an assessment of the neighborhood.

GLENN: Just want it to be fair. Just want it to be fair. Play the next cut. This is Mamdani, by the way, the candidate in New York, that looks like he might win, to become the next mayor of New York. Next cut.

VOICE: You are a self-described democratic socialist. Do you think that billionaires have a right to exist?
(laughter)

VOICE: I don't think that we should have billionaires, because frankly it is so much money, in a moment of such inequality.

And ultimately, what we need more of is equality across our city, and across our state, and across our country.

And I look forward to work with everyone. Including billionaires. To make a city that is fair for all of them.

GLENN: Wow!

That is fantastic.

We shouldn't have billionaires.

Hmm. So how would we get there?

What would be his ultimate goal?

Listen.

VOICE: Do you like capitalism?

VOICE: No. I have many critiques of capitalism.

And I think ultimately, the definition for me, of why I call myself a Democratic Socialist.

Is the words of Dr. King decades ago. He said, call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism.

There must be a better distribution of wealth for all of God's children in this country.

And that's what I'm focused on, is dignity and taking on income inequality. What the purpose is about, about this project, is not simply to raise much consciousness, to win socialism.

And obviously raise class consciousness. We were a part of that. But making sure that we have candidates that both understand that and are willing to put that forward, at every which moment they have.

Every which moment that they are given.

We have to continue to elect more socialists. And we have to ensure that we are unapologetic about our socialism. And there are also other issues that we firmly believe in.

Whether it's BS -- right? Or whether it's the end goal of seizing the means of production, where we don't have the same level --

GLENN: Wait. Can you say that again for me?

Whether it's the end goal of ceasing is the means of production.

Let me ask you the question: Which is more dangerous to our country, and our heritage?

Is it the -- the senator?

That controversial maybe. Says 3 percent of federal land should be transferred back to the states?

Or is it the politician standing at a modem declaring, you know, not in some offhanded gap, that he has a real problem with capitalism. That he wants to tax white neighborhoods. That he wants to get rid of billionaires. And seize the means of production.

Now, for those who studied history. I don't need to tell you why your blood has suddenly run cold. Seize the means of production, that's not economic theory.

That is a revolutionary war cry. It always has been. It's the heart of Lenin, of Marx, of Mao. Of Gulags. Of five-year plans. A food line. Total state control. It is the slogan, whispered in the barracks of all of the camps.

Printed on the walls of the Khmer Rouge Torture cells.

That's not American. That's not a goal any of us should look for. But let's take down Elon Musk.

Let's -- let's take down our FBI.

Let's -- let's take down Mike Lee. Let's take down Tucker Carlson. Let's take down at the scene. Because we don't have enough enemies. Riley rightfully, somebody on this program, asked around on this time, on Friday. Glenn, why did you have Steve Bannon on? This is why I had Steve Bannon. We have enough enemies, don't we?

Can we find people we generally agree with, maybe 80 percent. Even if that 20 percent is massive!

If I'm going to be friends with anybody, for the times I'm going to be friends with.

Then I have to say, I part with you here.

You will have to go on your own way. But when you come back to this, I'm with you.

We are -- we are being -- our college campuses, the floor of our own legislative bodies. As if it were another just regular day in paradise of America.

You know, let me -- we want to talk about highway funding and seizing the means of production.

Wait. What?

Meanwhile, the man who says, we should return a tiny sliver of public land. Land that Washington hoards like a miser. While local communities struggle to pay for schools and police.

Why you can't afford a house!

That's an extremist. A radical. A threat. But this guy, I don't see anybody on the right, really standing up against this guy. Where is the big movement against this guy? It's almost as if, that whole federal lands thing, was orchestrated. And so many of our side played right into it!

That man who says, let the states manage their own forests, their own minerals, their own resources.

Just give us 3 percent of our land, so we can actually have a tax base, so we can build some houses there that people can afford. Let's make sure that the land is controlled by the people, who are closest to that land.

Let them be the stewards of it. Not the bureaucrats 2,000 miles away, who have never set foot in a pine thicket, or a desert mesa.

Which one is more in line with the Constitution? Which one is our bigger enemy here? Which one echoes Jefferson's belief in a government closest to the people? Which upholds the vision of the Founders who feared centralized power, more than foreign armies. Which one is calling for the seizing of the -- of the production?

You know, not all ideas are morally equivalent.

We're not dealing here with difference of opinion on tax rates. Or zoning codes.

One wants to give power back to the states.

And, you know what?

People rose up, and said, I don't like that idea.

So that idea has to be closed and forfeited.

Great! But where are the people standing up saying, seizing the means of production?

This guy wants to take control of your factory. Your farm.

Your business, your labor.

One believes in federalism. The other believes in collectivism. One respects the individual as a moral agent of society. And the other sees the individual as a cog in the great machine of the state that's just going to make utopia. Because they always do!

As you just -- you just can't see it. Because you're behind the barbed wire fence!

When somebody shrugs and says, you know, both sides are really pretty extreme. You know, it's time we say, no, no, no, no.

It's that kind of false equivalence that got us into this mess. That's how the frog stays in the pot as the water slowly boils. You know what, they're both really kind of extreme, no, they're not. No, they're not.

If you believe in America, is a place where rights are granted by God, not government.

Where property is yours. It is sacred!

The fruits of your labor belong to you. That we cannot pretend these are equal threats.

Because they're not. Because one man questions how much land the federal government should own.

The other questions whether you should be allowed to own anything at all!

If the government should not own everything!

Which one is dangerous? Which one snuffs out your rights?

It's not about land. This is all about economics. It's about freedom. And history has already told us where these roads lead.

One road leads to liberty. One road leads us to having a discussion and a debate.

Without calling each other names and killing one another.

The other road doesn't allow debate. And if you try to debate, you're disappeared, or you're killed! One leads in liberty, one ends in chains!

What do you say, we -- we have enough enemies. Why do we need to turn on ourselves? And do you think there's a possibility that the communist, the socialist, the anarchist, the Islamist will all band together, to destabilize the Middle East. Europe, come America to destabilize that, to end the Western world. Do you think there's a chance you're being played?

Because I do. And I refuse to be played. I'm not a moron. And neither are you.

See, here's the thing. This is why, when Ben Shapiro says, facts don't care about your feelings. This is why that's so important.

Because they've hit an emotional spot with you. They've hit a spot of, they're going to take my right away to fish or to hunt.

And that's not what he was doing. But that's what it turned out to be. Our sacred public lands.

It's not what he was talking about.

And if it was, he's not talking about it now.

He wants to make it very, very clear. Exactly what he was talking about.

But see, the idea of going hunting and fishing and hiking. And these glorious places.

We all love that.

I mean, I don't like to actually -- I like to hunt. I don't like to fish.

I don't like to be outside, really.

But I love the lands. I love to be in an air-conditioned car, driving through Yellowstone, going, wow. Look at that. And look at that moron, trying to feed the car, to feed the buffalo.

That's going to be fun to watch.

Why are we so emotional, about that? When it's not really what the argument is about. And it's coming from our friends, when we really should have listened more and had a conversation.

And we're not emotional about someone who says, the end goal is to seize production.

Seize the means of production.

That's Karl Marx!

Why is that one not emotional for us?

Why is it we cannot see the actual enemy?

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“General Lee” stuntman REVEALS ALL about the fountain jump

A stuntman took the internet by storm when he jumped a "Dukes of Hazzard" General Lee replica over a fountain in Somerset, Kentucky. The driver, Northeast Ohio Dukes founder Raymond Kohn, joins Glenn Beck to reveal what happened behind the scenes, why he did the jump, and where he wants to jump next (hint: it would involve President Trump)!

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GLENN: There was something just amazing that happened over the weekend in Somerset, Kentucky. It was like a Dukes of Hazzard Show.

Thirty-five thousand people gathered together, to line the streets of Somerset, as a very brave driver, who you're going to meet here in a second. Raymond Kohn. Raymond Kohn got into a car. Was an old Dodge Charger?

He jumped over the historic fountain, in the center of the town.

Can we play a little bit of this, if you happen to be watching?

GLENN: I mean, that is just crazy. It just makes me proud to be American, in a very strange sort of way. I don't even know why. It's just so satisfying. The world is on fire, and you're like, yes! We still got it. Raymond Kohn is on with us now. He is the founder and lead stuntman from the northeast Ohio dukes. And they -- they do this kind of stuff all the time. Raymond, welcome to the program.

How are you?

RAYMOND: Thank you for having me, Glenn. I am great.

I feel like a million bucks.

GLENN: Do you really?

When I saw you land, I thought, ow, my back. Ow, my back. It didn't hurt coming down?

RAYMOND: Well, you know what, we are thankful that the legendary stuntman who inspired me to do this. Like the late great Al White Jr. Ted Barba. Corrie Uvey. Jumping John Kid. (all phonetic)

These are the guys who risk everything, back in the '80s on the set of the Dukes of Hazzard, to figure out, how we can do this safely without killing ourselves.

GLENN: I've got to say -- I have to say, I saw a video from the -- from in front of you, as you landed.

And you hit a wall. And you're just tearing through this wall.

And there is a photographer, that is in front. Did you see him, and think, get out of the way, dude! Almost killed him.

RAYMOND: Yeah. So Centerville is our producer. His series that follows us in -- like a global episode, of what we do.

And Mike Cullvich (phonetic) is the -- the -- the executive producer, and that was him there.

And they carefully --

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

RAYMOND: They know the risks. They know the risks.

He had a little -- just in case, if I go to the left or to the right, that he would be able to squeeze through.

And he did!

So all of the spectators. They were safe.

They were at a safe distance.

You know, we can't do the jump, if we're out there risking people's lives.

And with the help of the summer night crews, the city of Somerset, all the police and fire and EMS, everybody worked together with my team.
I have the best crew in the world.

And, yes, I am the driver that does the jump. And, you know what, we had to build that tarp.
We had to build that tarp, and there was a team of us. And my crew was so great.

They said, look at everything -- we'll get everything done.

Relax. They knew I was nervous.

You know, and they know that my team -- you couldn't ask for a better stunt team.

GLENN: I have so many questions for you.

But let me start here. Before we go too much further away from the town.

Who the hell is the mayor of the city council?

I love these guys.

I can't think of another city in America, that would be like, yeah. We got that historic you fountain, right downtown.

Yeah. Go ahead.

RAYMOND: America is back, baby. I'm telling you. You couldn't have been telling -- from the Dukes of Hazzard. Forty-five years. Forty-seven years after the show ended.

GLENN: Oh.

RAYMOND: I'm telling you, people love -- from all walks of life, people love the Dukes of Hazzard, they love the General Lee.

Listen, if there was -- if there was ever a non-racist TV show for all, it was the Dukes of Hazzard. And that's my main goal.

My pain goal is to get this TV show back on television, that way, we have our children. And our grandchildren. Watching a TV show that has family values good.

GLENN: Okay. So let me -- let me -- one more question on this, before I -- what the hell is wrong we?

When did you decide, this is what I want to do with my life?

RAYMOND: Okay. So I was always a fan. I was born in '77. The show came out in '79. And I loved that big orange car. I loved that car.

GLENN: So great. So great.

RAYMOND: So in 2005, I watched legendary stuntman Corey Spence jump over my roscoe cart. By my police car that I have.

They jumped over it, at the very first General Lee jump site, in Oxford College, in -- in Georgia.

And that's when I got bit by, what I called the stunt bug.

And I was like, I've got to do this. I've got to do -- if I on me do it once, I've got to do it.

And this was my 30th General Lee jump.

For our 30th -- Detroit. We jumped the General Lee downtown Detroit. And then for our 30th, we're jumping over the historic fountain in Somerset, Kentucky.

GLENN: I don't know. This is different. You know, downtown Detroit, you crash into buildings. There's nobody around.

Oh, well.

In Somerset, Kentucky, though. It's just a different thing.

Okay. Let me -- let me -- I think this is amazing.

In looking into you, while the jump is phenomenal. And makes you feel good. What you have gone through in the last few years, is even more amazing.

You had a -- a rare brain surgery, right?

A rare hormonal disorder, that you were like, living another classic TV show, the hulk!

You -- it was changing you, right?

Tell me about this!

JASON: Yeah. So in 2015, I started to feel a lot of pain in my knees, and my elbows.

I started noticing my voice was changing.

My face was changing. And then here comes, hey, Ray. You have to give up blood pressure medicine. You're prediabetic.

You're 335 pounds.

You know, I was always around 220 pounds.

And so nobody -- because -- it's over a long, long, long period of time.

The people that are in my life, every day, they couldn't see the changes.

You know, but the people I haven't seen Ray in a year or two years. You look different, Ray.

You know, and so I went to our local dermatologist, because I started getting these creases in my head. It's bad enough. I'm bald. What are these lines in my head now?

So the dermatologist, she said, let me see your hands. Yeah. You have big hands.

Yeah. Every time I shake somebody's hands. It's like shaking hands with a cinder block.

GLENN: Like banana hands.

JASON: Yeah. My feet went from a size ten to 12.

I had to get a 2X helmet. Because my helmet wouldn't fit.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait pick up wait.

Did you think you were ideas just gaining weight. Or did you know it was something more?

You weren't starving yourself, were you?

RAYMOND: Yeah. Because heavy stunt drivers don't make good stunt drivers. You get hurt a lot easier. It's a lot more weight.

GLENN: Of course.

RAYMOND: All of my loved ones and my crew. It's the jumps are tearing you up.

I'm like, no. No. No. No. It's not the jumps. Don't blame the jumps.

So I said, okay.

So went to the doctor. They said, go give this blood work. You may have something serious going on.

The blood work came back. My growth hormone was 900. 900. Now, normally it was 70 to 270. I'm 47 years old, and I'm still a grown boy!

So that opted for me, to get the -- or, the -- yeah, the MRI of my brain. To scan. And say, I had a 9-millimeter tumor on my 10-millimeter pituitary gland.

And we can have it on my body. And the surgeon, up in the Cleveland Clinic said, Raymond, if we don't get this out of you, it's going to kill you.

And my wife is crying. My daughter is crying.

The first thing that came to my lips was, can I still jump the General Lee after the significant other?

And the doctor said, yes, yes. And I'm like, okay. Let's do does this surgery. Let's get the thing out of my head. And then as soon as I was okay, we went up to the radical speech board in Canada. Joe came up there. We did the first international General Lee jump in front of like 30,000 people up there. And it was awesome.

I'm telling you. I'm living the dream, man. I can't believe this is happening to me.

All because of a TV show, called the Dukes of Hazzard.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I have to put an event together, just because I want to invite you to jump the General Lee over something.

We have to do --

JASON: Glenn, we want. We want to build an American patriot be General Lee.

And we want to put like, you know, 47, 45 on the doors. Put a big old American flag on the roof.

And we will call it The Jump for Trump 2045, and we want to jump in front of the White House. That's what we want to do.

GLENN: That's fantastic.

I'll bring it up to him. If there's any president that will do it. It will be him. He told me a story. He will probably do it on the White House grounds.

RAYMOND: Again, that would be awesome. He would want to do that.

GLENN: He told me a story, he said, you know, about the flagpoles. And he said, you know, he was afraid that all of the -- you know, all of the paperwork and, you know, government everything.

And he wanted to build a ballroom, and put the flagpoles up.

And he went to the guy at the White House, who runs everything at the White House. The architect.

And he said, so what is the paperwork like? And he said, you know, Mr. President, the White House belongs to the president while he's there.

So there's no paperwork. You would have to be the one that would sign all of it. And he's like, this is great.

I bet he could build that jump!

I bet he could build that jump, without any permits.

That is so fantastic.

JASON: In a few weeks. My team --

GLENN: That's fantastic.

JASON: We can build a great American -- they'll give us the panels to make the car, red, white, and blue. Big old American flag theme.

GLENN: That's fantastic.

RAYMOND: We'll call it the jump for Trump. We love Trump! The jump for Trump, and we will rock the White House.

GLENN: It is so great. I will bring it up to him. I will make sure he sees it, okay?

That is fantastic.

But listen, if he takes you up. I have to be there. I have -- you have to get me invited.

RAYMOND: Yeah. Glenn, I would be honored to put a passenger side seat in the car, and you can ride with me.

GLENN: No. No, no, no. No, no.

RAYMOND: Come on!

GLENN: I saw you come down, and my back -- I have a really bad back. And all I could really think of was, ow. Ow. That must have hurt.

RAYMOND: No. Last year, I hit the ramp at 72 miles an hour. I slide 200 at 17 feet. That's the longest General Lee jump in front of a large audience. And I landed a flat on all four wheels.

Had it not been for the safety equipment. That the legendary stuff that came up.

I would have either been killed or worse, paralyzed for the rest of my life.

And it's because of that safety equipment.

I'm not even sitting on the -- I'm painting from the ceiling with bungee cords.

GLENN: Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

I've got to meet you. I've got to meet you, Ray? Just --

RAYMOND: Let's jump in the White House. Let's jump in the White House.

GLENN: Thank you. Raymond. Northeast Ohio. Dukes founder and lead stuntman. You can find the website, north -- northeast Ohio.
Dukes.net.

Ray, we'll talk again. Thank you so much, God bless you, man.

RAYMOND: God bless you. God bless, America.

GLENN

Introducing 'The Torch'

Tough news week. Tough news month. Always, it seems, another five-alarm fire, or the spotting of arsonists that no one will pay attention to.

The people who watch and support this show—you—are extraordinary.

You don’t just consume information; you act. You don’t just care—you sacrifice. And I’ve seen the receipts. In the last decade alone, you’ve given over a quarter of a billion dollars through Mercury One to help people in crisis.

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Over 45,000 of you volunteered—some of you driving across states, organizing your churches, bringing your kids along—to take part in the largest single volunteer effort completed in one weekend.

That’s not normal. That’s rare. That’s powerful.

You launched The Nazarene Fund, rescuing over 260,000 people from persecution. You funded the largest civilian airlift in history to get Americans and our allies out of Afghanistan.

You’ve changed lives.

You’ve shaped history.

So when people ask me, “Glenn, what more can I do?” my answer is always the same:

First, look at what you have already done. Do you realize how far ahead you are of most Americans? Then start where you are. That feeling inside you—that restlessness, that pull to do something more—isn’t random. It’s a calling. But with everything that is happening in the world, it is hard to keep up as well as keep your chin up.

I get it. I’m tired of the bad news, too.

I’ve spent my life digging through it so you wouldn’t have to. But we must know what is happening and what is ahead. And while next year I’m not walking away from the radio or the stories that matter—in fact, I will be doubling down,

I’ve also told you for nearly two years: I feel something shifting. I feel like I’ve been called to something more. I have only felt this twice in my life—after I sobered up and just before I left Fox.

On January 1st, that “something” begins. I’ve named it The Torch. We started the blaze together; now it is time to take that bit of fire and light the way to a brighter future for our kids.

I wish I could tell you every detail today—but the truth is, some things are still being built, beta-tested, and negotiated. And some things I just can’t tell you until later this year. But here’s what I can tell you:

At its core, The Torch is about education, but not the kind that comes from textbooks or bureaucracies. It’s about self-directed learning rooted in history, liberty, faith, philosophy, and personal responsibility. It’s the kind of education that changes lives—and civilizations.

You’ve heard me say it before: If we want better kids, we have to become better adults. If we want stronger communities, we have to first strengthen ourselves. And if we want truth to survive, we have to fight for it—intelligently, faithfully, daily.

That’s what The Torch is:

A daily connection.

A movement.

A mission.

One part of it will be the culmination of almost a decade of hard work. It will include a new kind of museum—physical and digital—preserving the story of America in ways most museums never could.

You’ll learn through original artifacts, original sources, and real stories from real people who are doing real things. Right now, every summer, we hand-pick around 100 young adults from over 1,000 applications to spend two weeks with us in this kind of immersive learning. Now, for the first time, we’re building a way for anyone, anywhere in the world, in any language, to do the same.

We’re partnering with people of faith, business leaders, educators, innovators—people who know the truth and know how to live it. And they’re coming together not to sell you something, but to empower you.

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Because we don’t just need new tools or new platforms—we need a renewal of the human spirit. That’s what The Torch is. That is my next mission.

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