RADIOAugust 26, 2024

Tucker Carlson takes on the “Great Replacement Theory” controversy

Tucker Carlson joins Glenn Beck to discuss all the crazy news of the past few weeks: the coup against Biden, the Harris/Walz ticket, the Trump assassination attempt, the DNC ... there has been a lot of insanity! Tucker explains why he believes "Biden ALLOWED Trump to get shot, intentional or not." Plus, he responds to the controversy around his discussion of the "Great Replacement Theory." Tucker explains why he believes that our culture is being replaced — the cultures of ALL Americans, not just one race or religion.

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GLENN: Tucker Carlson, welcome to the program, sir. How are you? Tucker. Are you there? Oh, my gosh. Here it is again. Oh. Are you there? Hello.

TUCKER: I'm right here. Sorry, I'm grateful to be here, so thank you.

GLENN: Thank you. I'm excited to see you, what is it? September 7th, I think in Salt Lake City.

TUCKER: By the way, we're doing this tour, and I'm thinking, okay. I would love to bring people in. I know a lot of smart people. But there aren't a lot of people who can perform in front of a live audience.

It's a very different kind of person. You were literally the first person, I thought, oh, man.

GLENN: No. It's going to be fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. I appreciate the invite. It's going to be fun.

It's going to be in Salt Lake City. The Delta Center. You know how many seats that has?

TUCKER: I have no idea. I'm so overwhelmed by it, I haven't looked.

GLENN: Tucker. Yeah. It's big. Yeah, it's big.

Delta Center, September 7th. You can get the tickets at Tucker Carlson.com. Tucker Carlson.com.

So Tucker, I haven't talked to you in a few weeks. Or a couple of weeks. And I would love your overall take on the insanity that we have seen from the attempted assassination to today.

What are your thoughts? What the hell is happening?

TUCKER: It actually -- it really is like a car crash. You know, everyone has been -- anyone has been in a car crash, or any kind of unexpected traumatic event knows it takes months to reconstruct what happened.

That's how I feel about what we've seen in the past six weeks, from the debate where it was just obvious four minutes in, that Biden did everything we suspected of Biden was true. That he did not continue. That he couldn't run the country. That he hadn't been running the country, and that he would be taken off the ticket. That was just immediately obvious to me. Then watching the coordinated media response to that. Where you realized, well, wait a second. Dana Bash was in on this.

All her colleagues at CNN, MSNBC, like they had their marching orders. They put them into effect.

And then you thought, well, wait. Everything is fake.

And I think a lot of people have begun to suspect that over the last few years. When it became clear be with the CIA was playing a meaningful role in our domestic elections.

Like, that's, you know, no one really thought.

Myself, I didn't really think that really could be happening. I thought, maybe only wackos only thought it could be happening, but then it turned out to be confirmed.

When that debate happened and the media as one, acting as one, as they always do, basically kicked Joe Biden off the ticket in the first six minutes after the debate. You realize, wait a second, like there's a whole level of control of governance.

GLENN: Yes!

TUCKER: That the view from voters, like we have no -- we have no role in this at all. Voting just plays no role in this.

We're not privy to the plan. And my gosh, you know, at the very deepest level, there is a conspiracy, maybe unarticulated. Maybe a conspiracy of like-minded temperament or instinct or whatever. But it's definitely coordinated, to disempower the rest of us, on behalf of the people that are already in charge.

And everything that happened since then. Confirmed it.

You know, the Biden administration allows Trump to get shot. Whether intentional or not.

They allowed it, having spent an awful lot of time at events with Secret service. I know you have as well, over 30 years.

That -- what they allowed to happen that day. You know, they allowed that.

GLENN: I know.

TUCKER: And then you were like, the Secret Service is corrupt.

So you have a country where the Secret Service, the presidential bodyguard, the Pretorian guard of the president is corrupt, is a political instrument.

And it joins the CIA and FBI and the entire DOJ. And ATF. And, you know, every three letter agency. They're all working on behalf of a political party. Or the ruling cabal that controls that political party.

I mean, that is just so bewildering that you think, well, what is true?

You know, what is this organization?

Who runs it?

Who has been behind the government for the past four years?

GLENN: That's what I have -- I have asked that question, of -- of everybody I know. And nobody seems to have an answer.

If you look at what's happening over in Europe. With their illegal problem, or their refugees.

And how the governments over there, are responding to the people, and you see, it's exactly the same problems, it's exactly the same laws.

The same responses. The same media response.

And then you know that Joe Biden is incapable of, who the hell has been the president?

Who is running this country?

TUCKER: Well, and what you're seeing around the world is really not around the world. It's just in traditional, Christian countries.

It's in the West. It's in Christendom. It's not happening in Egypt. It's not happening in Singapore. It's not happening, of course, in China or Japan. These are still ethnostates.

No one can contest their right to be that.

But it's happening in the historic homeland of Christianity from Scandinavia, really all the way to Hungary and Central Europe is kind of the border. They held the line. But everywhere else. Ireland. What has Ireland done to deserve this?

But the same thing is happening everywhere.

And you think, is this a conspiracy?

Is it a manifestation of spiritual war?

That's my conclusion. You know, I have no real evidence. But I don't see any explanation that makes sense.

I don't know. It's all happening at once.

As you said, exactly the same thing.

It's much bigger than the refugee agencies, pushing people in. The media is supporting them.

It's much.

This is the end of the civilization.

And what -- why?

Why would you want to destroy the civilization? Which they are doing, and probably to the point to where, it can't be fixed in any recognizable form.

Because demographics is really kind of the core question of a society.

Who lives in the country.

That's the basic question.

And I don't -- I don't know. I guess, this is a very long answer to a short question. But I just would sum it up by saying, it's so big. It's so bewildering. It's so distressing. That it's kind of shut my brain down. Only now I'm figuring out, what do you do? How do you respond to this?

I don't want -- yeah.

GLENN: So I've been saying for the last couple of weeks, you know, as I saw this whole thing unfold.

And know how close we are to the edge.

That this may be the last election. And I don't even know if it will be free and fair. But it will be the last election in the country, as we know it. Or have known it.

And it's -- you're kind of -- your last call.

I mean, if you vote for Harris/Biden. It is -- or, I mean, Harris/Walz.

You are -- you are pulling the -- the trigger of socialism. And authoritarianism.

I mean, it's all there, and they're saying it all out in the open.

And I'm hearing from 20-somethings that are saying. Oh, you guys always say, that it's going to be the most important election of your life. And it's not that bad.

How bad is it, Tucker?

TUCKER: Well, I think it's -- I don't think it's political, for one thing. So I don't think it's even worth thinking in terms of like the election or whatever.

It's like, the changes coming to the United States or are in progress in the United States. And then Western Europe. Begin all the way to the Hungary border. You know, sort of Austria West.

Also New Zealand. Also Australia. Also Canada. The Anglo -- the European world.

Like, the changes are so big, and so profound and permanent, that I -- you know, I don't even know -- I don't know anybody who fully understands what's going on. And I'm trying to find people who understand, and talk to them. So, you know, I don't know. But I think we should all be thinking in much, much bigger terms, than -- than we are.

I mean, I don't think the 2020 election was free and fair. Of course it wasn't. You can't have a democracy with censorship, by definition.

You don't even have to worry about electronic voting machines, to know that was not a free and fair election. If you don't have access to the information required to cast an informed vote, then the election is rigged.

Just by definition. That's where the First Amendment is first. Because it's a prerequisite for democracy. So -- and we don't have it now.

So -- but why? Like, what is this? Why would you want to destroy Christendom, which is what they're doing? And, well, because you hate Christianity is the answer.

And so those are the terms that I'm thinking of it, in. Because those are the correct terms. And I've never been religious or faithful. I'm certainly not a model of Christian living, that's for sure.

I'm going to buy chewing tobacco this afternoon, I can't wait. So I'm not a virtuous person. But I try to be an analytical person.

And reach conclusions on the basis of the evidence that I can see. Not the things I hear, but the things I see.

Because you can't disrupt your senses with lies, like I'm just trying to be honest with myself.

And I see a total transformation of the historically Christian world. And I don't know how it shakes out. But I know that the stakes couldn't be higher.

So preventing Kamala Harris and that incredibly creepy, you know, wrestling coach. Or football coach.

That guy -- air quotes. Running with her. I mean, he's just -- that guy is just completely undisguised. Like, I know exactly who that guy is.

That guy is creepy, period.

GLENN: Yeah.

TUCKER: So, but anyway, the fact that they would even run somebody like that, tells you what their agenda is. It's like a completely overturning the basis of civilization. Which is the relationship between a man and a woman, that produces children.

Like that's the basis of multiplication. And they're trying to overturn that.

GLENN: Right. Right.

So you got a lot of heat on the great replacement theory. When you were at Fox.

And a little bit -- and there is -- there is mounting evidence, of -- of this. With some people. You know, online.

That are of a different race. There was one that came out, I think yesterday. The day before. And this was a woman. She was in England.

And she said, look, there are -- the white population is going down.

And with all the, you know, newcomers. We're winning. We're winning.

That's -- that's replacement theory, at its worst.

However, there is a great replacement, that is going on, all throughout the Western world.

And that is the Christianity replacement with Islam. If you see what is happening in every country in the Middle East, and Dearborn, which nobody pays attention to here.

And Minnesota. You see that there is a replacement of our culture and our faith.

And it's a little terrifying, when you see the numbers.

Just the sheer numbers, in Europe.

Europe is -- is over!

TUCKER: Well, it's absolutely over.

And the thing I find hilarious, the reason I laughed is to call something demonstrably true, like gravity, a theory, is itself like deceptive.

So it's not a theory. It's a math question. So what's -- and, by the way, it's not racial. It's not even religious, in my opinion. It's just a math question. You have the people who lived in the United States, in the city, in 2000, before everything changed with 9/11. And those people and their descendants, at -- what rate are they reproducing?

And then, well, below replacement rate. But the country is growing really fast, because new people are being imported.

So by definition, again, as a math equation, the people who lived here in 2000, which was not that long ago. Are being replaced by immigrants.

And it's is not just whites.

It's native born blacks, actually. So you always hear, the country is getting -- well, you know, black people. African-Americans, as we call them. Have lived in this country, longer than, you know, it's not or Irish. You know, the hundreds of years their families have been here. They're Native Americans.

They're native born Americans. And they're being replaced too. And their political power is evaporating, which no one ever says, but it's true. And, you know, they don't vote the same way I do, by and large. But I think that people's families have been here for hundreds of years, like have some claim on the country, actually. I think that.

Call me crazy. And they are being replaced. Flatout. And anyone who says they're not being replaced or it's racist or bigoted, or anti-Semitic. To say that, like what? It has nothing to do with any of that. It's just a fact. And why are you doing this to us, actually? Nobody likes it. And -- but why? Why is this happening?

So, yeah. They buff and puff. But they've also written a bunch of books on how great it is. I mean, if you're sending vasectomy machines to the DNC.

GLENN: Yes, yeah. That's crazy.

TUCKER: Yeah. What is that about?

You know, it's clearly spiritual. And by the way, I would say, I don't think it's Islam that is the religion that is replacing us.

It's the LGBTQ religion, the global religion of childlessness.

GLENN: Well, I will tell you, that I agree with that.

But right now, they're, you know, playing footsy with the Islamist. And in the end, the Islamist will eat the LGBTQ community. It will just eat it.

TUCKER: Oh, 100 percent.

And I'm rooting for them. I am. I am. I'm hardly Muslim. I can tell you, having spent a lot of time in the Middle East the last few years, especially the Gulf, especially the Emirates, is much more tolerant and welcoming of Christianity than New York City is. And then Frankfurt, Germany, is, and London is.

I mean, you can go sit at a dinner party in Abu Dhabi and talk about how much you love Jesus, and everybody applause.

You know, try that in London. Try that in New York City. Like you can't. People hate you for that.

So, look, I don't know exactly what that means. I don't really know what anything means. But I've experienced that. And I think the real threat to -- you know, any religion that tells you, it's bad to have children or children don't matter, human life doesn't matter, is evil.

GLENN: Yes. Yeah. I agree.

TUCKER: Is demonic. And that's the LGBTQ religion. Or the global -- this weird global climate religion. That's what I'm saying.

GLENN: Yeah, I do. Yeah. You will bow down to it, as well.

Tucker, thank you.

We will see you on the seventh, at Salt Lake City. At the Delta center.

It will be -- I have a feeling, it will be spiraling out of control at some point.

On September 7th.

Salt Lake City. Delta Center.

Join Tucker Carlson, and I live on the seventh.

You can get your tickets now at Tucker Carlson.com. That's Tucker Carlson.com.

Tucker, thanks. Talk to you.

TUCKER: You're the best. See you.

Why RFK Jr.’s Former Running Mate OPPOSES Casey Means for Surgeon General

President Trump’s nomination of Dr. Casey Means for Surgeon General had many MAHA fans cheering. But RFK Jr.’s former running mate, BlazeTV host Nicole Shanahan, has major reservations. She joins Glenn, who has been a fan of Casey, to explain why she believes there are stronger candidates. Means, Shanahan claims, may have “conflicts of interest” because of the “biometric harvesting company” she founded and its close ties to Silicon Valley. Shanahan also questions whether RFK Jr. is playing “political 4D chess,” or if she was lied to when she was promised that the Means siblings wouldn’t be in government. Is RFK Jr. reporting to someone other than Trump? Shanahan explains why she believes it’s possible.

Transcript

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GLENN: Nicole Shanahan. Nicole, how are you?

NICOLE: Glenn, how are you doing?

GLENN: I am very good. It's great to have you here.

So I want to ask you, the Surgeon General thing, are you for Casey Means? Or not for Casey Means?

NICOLE: Well, I will tell you who I am for, Glenn.

GLENN: Okay.

NICOLE: I'm for all of those Americans. Those hundreds of thousands of doctors, seeking truth, honesty, and dignity in our medical system once again. That is what I'm for. That is what propels MAHA into existence.

That's what propels Bobby Kennedy into the position of running for president of the United States. That's why I joined the campaign. It really is about listening to this group of doctors that did the right thing during the COVID pandemic.

That spoke up, when it was dangerous to speak up.

That lost their licenses. And so when I hear from that base, concern or research. About individuals, in and around MAHA.

I have to listen to them.

And I do listen to them.

Because oftentimes, they are right. They're brave, and they're principled. So the concern I've been hearing from that group of people is that MAHA -- you know, any movement. MAGA had this issue too of infiltration by different groups that are more self-serving, than they are for the movement itself.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

NICOLE: And so just one example, Casey Means is a founder of a company that does biometric harvesting. She's very close with many of the big data biometric harvesting companies.

In Silicon Valley. And this -- I noticed with all these people. You do not want them running in a government position that is responsible for everybody equally. Right?

GLENN: So wait. Wait. Wait.

What is -- what is that?

They're harvesting, what?

NICOLE: Well, so biometric data is anything between heart rate data, to all of the data that is collected from your FitBit or high glucose monitor. It could be labs. It could be -- then there's all the DNA harvesting. And big data that's being done.

So, you know, I think that the base -- MAHA really came from medical freedom. And medical sovereignty.

And the idea that we have to keep conflicts of interests. Out of the government.

And so when I -- you know, see some stuff going on. That we could be doing better.

Right?

Our job.

And I learned this from the MAGA base.

Our job is to ton seek the best possible people. For government, that are truly putting the principles of this country first.

The principles of American sovereignty first.

GLENN: So you wrote yesterday.

It's very strange. It doesn't make any sense. I was promised that if I supported RFK Jr. in the Senate confirmation, that neither of these siblings would be working under HHS or an appointment.

And that people much more qualified would be. I don't know -- I'm sorry.

RFK very clearly lied to me. Or what's going on. It's been clear in recent conversations that he's reporting to someone regularly, who is controlling his decisions, and it isn't President Trump.

With regards to the siblings, there is something very artificial and aggressive about them. Almost as if they were bred and raised as Manchurian assets. Wow!

NICOLE: So keep in mind, I was responding to Dr. Suzanne Humphries.

Who was also expressing very similar sentiment.

GLENN: Concern. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

NICOLE: Concern. There's better candidates.

So what's going on? I also heard from other MDs in the field.

That there was another doctor that RFK had wanted for the position. Very, very qualified doctor.

And -- and, you know, he was caught by surprise as well. By -- by this other choice.

So, you know, there's -- again, they -- they don't call it the swamp for no reason. Right?

GLENN: Right.

NICOLE: And, you know, I'm not officially within the administration at all.

In fact, I decided to take the path of staying an independent --

GLENN: Smart.

NICOLE: -- media person. Which I think -- I think and you know this, Glenn. It's really important that when you are an independent media voice, that you -- you stick by your principles. And that you are not just a mouthpiece for any government organizations.

That you're really on the outside, reflecting back the hopes and wishes of the constituents.

GLENN: Yeah. There's -- it's very hard to do.

I mean, I take stances against the president.

And for the president. You always have to -- you always have to balance, you know, I have my opinion.

And I'm never going to be bought out by anybody.

I'm never. But you also want to make sure that you're being fair to the people that you trust. And I know you have trusted RFK for a very, very long time.

And for what struck me on this. Is, you know, I don't know if RFK lied to me. Which I hope he didn't, or what's going on. It's been clear in recent conversation that he is reporting to someone regularly, who is controlling his decisions.

That's a remarkable thing to say, especially about RFK.

Because he does not strike me as somebody who is afraid of somebody else.

NICOLE: You know, I don't know if it's fear or that he's playing political 4D chess. And, again, they don't call it the swamp for no reason.

It's just, at some point, there's certain decisions, that are worth fighting for.

And I do appreciate what a very complex political environment this is.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

NICOLE: And I do understand that even within these agencies, there are groups that are intentionally keeping and withholding information from the new leadership.

So, you know, I -- I fully appreciate how complicated it is.

So I fully appreciate how complicated it all is, but there are definitely things that the base is -- is, you know, like, this is an easy one. This could have gone better. Right?

You don't truly -- and, you know, everyone is guessing what precisely this 4D chess is all about. And why these moves are being made. And trying to anticipate the next one.

But it's something that I think that, you know, there's just certain things that indicate that whomever he's giving -- whoever his chess coach is. Could be making some better decisions for him. And --

GLENN: But Casey.

I mean, when I talk to the twins, during -- or after COVID.

They seemed pretty clear on what was bad and what was good.

They -- they both seemed to be good on -- on COVID. And the vaccines. Didn't they?

Or is my memory --

JEFFY: They talk a great talk.

I will say, I was once a fan of it as well.

It was only after I received many comments from individuals, in and around the transition team.

As well as new research that came up.

And then really, like, you know, when the base expresses these things and provides that degree of inquiry, and it shows that kind of concern.

I think we owe it to them.

GLENN: Yes. I agree. I agree.

ANNA: Yeah.

GLENN: So overall, how do you feel things are going?

NICOLE: I think, again, there's been a lot of focus around food dives. Meanwhile, there's millions of people suffering from vaccine injuries, that still feel very neglected.

So I do think -- I do appreciate the executive order, regarding gain of function and limiting overseas research.

GLENN: And shutting down a dangerous -- and shutting down a very dangerous bio lab here.

NICOLE: Yes. And there are many of these bio labs that are kind of flying under the radar.

GLENN: Right.

NICOLE: So it's a big step in the right decisions sedition. I'm a huge Jay Bhattacharya fan. Probably one of his biggest.

I really am excited for him, as he built out his team.

I hope, he has a very, very strong team around him. In the next coming weeks. Because he's going need to it.

As far as HHS goes, you know, I would love to see Bobby bring in more of those doctors that have been around him for the last ten years, very regularly.

Because these are the individuals that, you know, I -- I trust these people with my life. They have sacrificed everything to do the right thing time and time again.

They are so deeply principled. They will never take a check over helping a patient out.

And they actually do have the answers. So I'm hoping to see more of those people around Bobby too.

GLENN: So I'm wondering because this is the way I feel about a couple of things with the FBI. And Intel.

That if I don't see some people in the next year or so, go to jail, or at least brought in for a fair and honest trial, you know. I don't want to just scoop people up. And just assume that they're guilty.

But build a good, strong case. Bring it to trial.

Have it a fair and honest trial. And let the chips fall where they may.

But if I don't see some prosecution, at least. I think I'm very upset at the G O.J.

Pam Bondi. Head of the FBI. Kash Patel. And I don't -- and I'm trusting them so far, that they are doing that.

Do you feel the same way at all, about -- you know, if you don't see some people who go to jail there, that clearly lied about the vaccines.

If they don't go to jail. You have -- you really haven't fixed anything.

You're just eating around the edges.

NICOLE: Yeah. Yeah. I think that really explains it. And this is why I think it's important to continue to voice those concerns, because they're only going to grow and mount.

And it really is the American people, that were sold this vision of accountability.

And as we want to see it. We have to see it. Anywhere. Several months into the administration now.

HHS, you know, lags behind the Oval Office in terms of getting going.

But they're -- people were seriously injured. There were many crimes committed against the American public.

Crimes committed against our bravest doctors. Crimes committed against children.

We need accountability.

We really, really need to see that.

Because, you know, there's -- there's a preciousness in this moment. We have to -- we have to deliver. This country deserves it.

GLENN: And, I mean, if we're -- if we can't correct the things that, for instance. Washington State. Just passed a law where if there is another pandemic, everybody seems to be, you know, claiming there's another one, right around the corner.

But if there is another pandemic, that they will have absolute control, over what you put into your body. And what you do. That's terrifying.

NICOLE: I do.

And those emergency orders, they will scrutinize them. They have revisions.

GLENN: Washington State just revised it to just codify it. Washington State just codified it. It's crazy.

NICOLE: Yeah. Yeah.

So I would like to see more focus around that, not Red Dye 40 and not Kellogg's.

I'm totally fine leaving Kellogg's alone, in favor of HHS spending. All of its energy. And all of its focus. And all of its leverage, making sure that we are actually properly ready for the next pandemic.

And not to cause the catastrophic harm, that was caused during COVID-19.

GLENN: Nicole Shanahan. She's got the podcast Back To the People. And it's now coming to Blaze Media.

It's the same podcast she's been doing. Now as she says, with a wider reach. Glad to have you.

Nicole, thank you very much.

NICOLE: Thanks, it's a pleasure to come on.

GLENN: We'll talk to you again.

Is America’s Grid a Ticking Time Bomb? Trump’s Energy Secretary REACTS | Glenn TV | Ep 430

President Trump is working hard to right the wrongs of the Biden administration. But did Biden harm our energy grid even more than we thought? While Glenn was on vacation in Italy, two other European countries — Spain and Portugal — suffered one of the biggest blackouts in their history. The mainstream media, as they always do, rushed to blame it on ANYTHING other than the countries’ heavy reliance on unreliable green energy. But Glenn has the receipts and the evidence that leftists tried to make America’s grid just as unreliable. Glenn speaks with Energy Secretary Chris Wright about how the Trump administration is reversing these dangerous policies. Secretary Wright also discusses his department’s discovery that Biden shoveled out $93 BILLION in energy loans after Kamala Harris lost the 2024 election and before Trump could take office. Plus, he comments on Trump’s plans to deal with OPEC, why Trump must refill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and why Trump is planning the biggest energy project in American history to help accommodate AI. But first, Glenn recaps the biggest media lies that he missed while on vacation. Topping the list: Are these elitists like Axios and Jen Psaki finally admitting that they lied about Biden’s cognitive decline, or do they STILL not get that their charade is over?

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Is the New American Pope Catholic? | Bishop Strickland | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 256

A new pope has been chosen! As the recording of this episode of "The Glenn Beck Podcast" began, white smoke emerged from the Sistine Chapel, signaling the selection of the first American pope. Glenn and Bishop Joseph Strickland react live to the news as the whole world wonders if Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost, now Pope Leo XIV, will continue in the ways of his predecessor Pope Francis or go a more traditional route. Bishop Strickland, who was removed from office by Pope Francis, says the former pope pushed a church “in the world and of the world” and reviews “duplicity,” “corruption,” and potential abuse overlooked by the Vatican, including the infamous McCarrick scandal. The pair discuss the resurgence of the Latin Mass, globalism, the Catholic Church’s approach to homosexuality and gender identity, and whether the Shroud of Turin is an “icon” or a “relic.” As the new pope greets the world, Glenn asks, “If we have a more progressive pope, does that set the Church back?” Bishop Strickland advises that “even if we are disappointed and dismayed,” we must pray and keep our focus on God.

Zuckerberg Wants to Give You AI “Friends” … To CONTROL You?

Meta and Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg has a new goal: to give lonely Americans AI “friends.” But Glenn sounds the alarm: this must NEVER happen! Glenn explains the hidden danger in Zuckerberg’s seemingly kindhearted plan: “AI cannot, must not, and will never be your friend.” Opening that door will only give Meta insane levels of potential for manipulation and control over you.

Transcript

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GLENN: Let's start with this: Mark Zuckerberg. Good guy. I mean, he brought us Facebook.

And, you know, that is the thing that brought all of us together.

Brought out families together. All the people that we lost touch with.

Oh, the world is so much better now that we have Facebook.

So now, he's got another idea. Could we play the clip of Mark Zuckerberg?

VOICE: There's a stat that I honestly think is crazy. The average American has I think it's fewer than three friends. Three people they consider friends. And the average person has demand for meaningfully more. I think it's 15 friends or something.

I guess there's probably at some point, I'm too busy. I can't deal with more people. But the average person wants more connectivity, connection than they have. So, you know, there's a lot of questions that people ask.

Of stuff like, okay. Is this going to replace kind of in person connections or real life connections?

And my default is that the answer to that is probably no.

I think it -- it -- I think that there are all these things that are better kind of about physical connections, when you can have them.

But the reality is that people just don't have the connection when they feel more alone, a lot of the time, than they would like.

GLENN: Hmm. True.

Now, let me ask you. Is there a time when you don't remember feeling so isolated? When you didn't really feel like I don't have any real friends?

When you didn't -- you had real connections with people, instead of a million connections with people that are your friends, but not really your friends?

Can you think of a time, way back in history?

I mean, probably have to go back to the cavemen, to find a time.

Oh. Before Facebook, and social media!

When we weren't all killing ourself, because we have no meaning.

Now, from the people who brought you kill yourself, because you've been on Facebook too much.

Brings you new AI friends. Oh, this is going to be good.

By the way, you know, that's a crazy stat, I think the average American has, what? Three friends. And they have a capacity for, I don't know. Fifteen or 20. I don't know.

Really think about it right now.

How many true friends, do you have?

How many true friends?

People that when you are down and out, there is nothing -- the whole world is against you!

That that person will actually stand by your side. And go, yeah.

I'm their friend.

And I don't care what you say.

How many? How many do you have?

I think I would count myself lucky if I have three.

Now, I have a lot of consequences.

I have a lot of people who we all think are friends. But as a recovering alcoholic, I've been there.

I've done that. As a recovering alcoholic,
who then also is a conservative and spoke out about the Obama administration, I know who my friends are.
I know who my friends are not.

And I think there's a lot of people that have counterfeit friends.

If you've got. Oh, I've got ten or 15 friends.

Eh.

No, you don't. No, you don't.

I've always grown up thinking, you're lucky, you're lucky, to have three, five, really good friends.

That will walk through anything with you. Do you agree with that, Stu?

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: You've never been there.

STU: For you? Oh, God no. But I'm just saying, generally speaking. No. I think -- I mean, you're describing a great friend. You're describing a really --

GLENN: A real friend.

STU: Yeah. Like someone you know and stick around for multiple decades.

GLENN: Yeah, I have lots of friends. You know what I mean? I have millions of Facebook friends.

STU: Right. Those aren't real.

GLENN: Right. And I have lots of friends. But the ones that are there for you always, no matter what, I have family.

And I have family.

STU: Right.

GLENN: And I have a handful of friends. I would consider you one of those.

STU: Thank you. I would as well.

GLENN: Why?

Remember, I have a drinking problem.

STU: Yeah. A lot of brain cells killed to make that decision.

But I think that you -- yes. I think the only thing that I think I'm drilling down a little bit on to try to understand. When you say, well, I have a lot of friends.

In a way, I think that's what Zuckerberg is talking about.

It's not even necessarily a great friend that you have for multiple decades. And can count on at any time.

Just the mid-level consequences, are drying up for a lot of people.

GLENN: Yeah. And why is that?

Why is that?

Because we don't talk to each other anymore.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Because of social media.

You know, when this generation says, I don't know.

I just think it's weird. I'm just now in a bar someplace.

And some stranger comes up to me and wants to strike up a conversation. I'm like, hello, weirdo. I don't know!

You think it's less weird to go online?
When people can fake everything!

Thank you, Mark Zuckerberg.

But no thanks. Okay.

STU: And they're just -- to build up on this point for one second.

There's a study that came out, the last 20 years, of how much time do you spend socializing with the people.

Again, that's not with your best friends.

This is just socializing with anyone, a human.

Every single group. Every single group has massive drops.

GLENN: Massive.

STU: Massive drops. Just give you some examples.

Ages. Fifteen to 24-year-olds. Thirty-five-point down.

In 20 years. 35 percent. So a typical 15-year-old, as compared to what they are, in 2003 and 2025, where were the two measurement years?

They're spending 35 percent less time, with other human beings.

GLENN: Okay. Hang on just a second. Can you please stop distracting me? Because I'm trying to figure out why our kids are killing themselves.

STU: No, it's really hard.

GLENN: It's very hard to figure out.

STU: To understand.

And this is the coup de grâce of this entire study, which is, the typical female pet owner spends more time actively engaged with her pet, than she spends face-to-face contact with her friends of her own species.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: That is unbelievable -- not like you're in the same house as your cat.

Right? No. More face-to-face time with your cat!

GLENN: And I've got news for you. If you think your cat is your friend, wait until you die, and your cat is trapped in the house with you and you have no friends to check. They will eat your face.

STU: They will still have a use for you.

GLENN: Yeah. They will have a use foy.

STU: Not the other way around.

GLENN: Okay. Here's why I'm bringing this up today.

This is a lie, that is going to be sold to you, like crazy. And it's going to be wrapped in a beautiful, shiny package. And it's going to have from Mark Zuckerberg and others like him, on the tag.

They want you to believe, that AI and bots can be your friends.