RADIOOctober 24, 2024

Exclusive: Former UK PM SLAMS Labour Party for possible US election interference

Around 100 staffers for the United Kingdom’s Labour Party are reportedly campaigning for Kamala Harris in America. Former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss joins The Glenn Beck Program with her reaction: "Who's paying for their airfare? For their accommodation? Has that been properly accounted for? Have the receipts been produced?" Because while their actions could be legal, this could become a case of foreign election interference, depending on the money trail. Plus, Truss comments on the leaked plans from the Center for Countering Digital Hate (which has ties to the current Prime Minister and the Kamala Harris campaign) to "kill Musk's Twitter": “It's why we need X. I mean, Elon Musk is effectively the leader of the opposition now in Britain.”

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GLENN: The former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Elizabeth. Or Liz Truss. Welcome, Liz. How are you?

LIZ: I'm very well. Great to be on the show, Glenn.

GLENN: Thank you. So I'm sorry. I just don't know.

Do we still call you Prime Minister?

GLENN: Not in person.

GLENN: Okay. Not in person.

So, you know -- I don't know if you remember this. But we met earlier this year.

And we exchanged a few words. But in listening to you speak and everything else, I thought, I -- this problem is bigger than any of us thought it was.

And it is deep, deep, deep in the structures of not only our country. But England, as well.

They're going in a different direction, than what they're telling people.

Is that. Did I read you right?

LIZ: That is absolutely right. It was only -- I've been a government minister for ten years. And it was only when I got into 10 Downing Street, that I understood the full-scale of what we were up against.

Because it isn't just the political parties.

It's not just the civil service.

The left, has successfully captured the institutions, in Britain.

And it is going to be a very, very big struggle.

To be able to change things here.

And, you know, we now have an even worse situation.

We have a socialist government.

GLENN: Yeah.

LIZ: They're trying to cancel free speech. They are trashing the British economy. People are leaving Britain. Millionaires are leaving Britain, at a faster rate than any other country in the world, at the moment.

GLENN: Jeez.

LIZ: So we're in a very, very difficult situation. And the -- the Labor Party, again, for free speech will be aware that they have attacked X. They have attacked Elon Musk repeatedly.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

LIZ: Because that is one of the few avenues where people are really hearing the truth and what is happening.

GLENN: So there is a story that was just released yesterday. Internal documents from the Center for Countering Digital Hate, whose founder is a British political operative, Morgan McSweeney, now advising the Kamala Harris campaign.

The internal plans show the group, in writing, plans to, quote, kill musk's Twitter, while strengthen as he does its ties with Biden/Harris administration and the Democrats, like Senator Amy Klobuchar, who has introduced multiple bills to regulate online misinformation.

So it is showing that something that is in your country. Started in your country.

Partly funded by us. And now brought into our administration.

Is actively working with our administration. And I would assume, in some ways, your administration.

Not yours. But, you know, the -- the administration of Great Britain. To silence speech.

We're -- our governments are in cahoots, doing really bad things. To the public.

Are they not?

LIZ: And just to be clear, Morgan McSweeney is now the chief of staff to the Prime Minister. So this man is incredibly senior within the party's administration. And there have been numerous public attacks on X, by the Prime Minister.

Now, I don't believe that he will succeed if he takes on Elon Musk.

But the mentality, isn't to have an honest discussion about what's happening in Britain.

The mentality is to try and quash any dissent, and stop people talking about the very real issues that are affecting us.

For example, the sheer scale of illegal immigration, into this country.

So we have a very worried government.

And I would be following the US elections. And comments by Hillary Clinton, comments by members of the Democrat campaign.

And it seems to be the same thing, going on. Not only are they putting in place, these disastrous policies, they're also trying to stop anybody from talking about them.

GLENN: I've been talking about this for a while. I've been trying to get people to understand. This is not about left versus right.

Democrats versus Republicans.

This is about elites. And against the people.

And the people know they're being lied to.

How can there be a problem throughout the entire West, of illegal immigration.

At the scale we've never seen ever before, in the history of the modern world. Paragraph and our press, in every single country, is treating it, exactly the same.

As are the administrations.

That doesn't -- that doesn't compute, it doesn't work out, mathematically, to be a coincidence.

JUSTIN: And you're right about the public.

The public understands there is a problem. They really are fed up with the mainstream media in Britain.

The not telling the truth about what's happening, and presenting things in a way that is very far from their real experiences. You started off, Glenn, by saying England is doing this to the US system. It's not England. The English people.

The British people are --

GLENN: Are with us.

LIZ: Very much concerned about illegal immigration.

GLENN: Yes, I know.

LIZ: It's the -- it's the Labor Party. It's the media elites. It's the corporatists, and it's the civil service and the bureaucracy, which does not want to learn.

GLENN: So how much of a role did this play in the destruction of Donald Trump and you?

LIZ: What happened to me was the Bank of England, were -- and they've admitted this since. Were responsible for the market turmoil that took place in October 2022.

But the British media, adopted the narrative that it was my fault.

So they took the narrative, from the Labor Party, from the Bank of England.

And they simply repeated it. And they repeated it to this day.

Even though the Bank of England put out an official report. Saying two-thirds of it was their fault.

Ask what I think is changed about the media.

It's no longer a neutral arbiter. It is pushing a particular narrative. And a particular agenda.

And I see the same about Donald Trump.

If you look at what CNN puts out, they are not interested, in what the truth of the situation is.

You know, even the reporting of, you know, President Trump's visit to McDonald's.

I mean, it just was some ludicrous. Ludicrous media commentary on that.

And I think it is a massive problem.

And it's why we need very strong independent media here in Britain.

It's why we need X.

I mean, Elon Musk is effectively the leader of the opposition now in Britain.

That is the situation we're in.

GLENN: Yeah. He is in Brazil.

He is really all over the world.

He is -- and I don't think he could do it, if he wasn't the richest man in the world.

But he is truly the last gatekeeper. If he goes down, there is -- there is no gatekeeper, in power, currently today, that will keep the gate of freedom of speech, alive.

That's a little terrifying.

LIZ: That's right. And in the United States, you have the First Amendment. We don't have that in Britain.

GLENN: I know.

LIZ: We're in a worst position for the protection of freedom of speech.

And we have seen people very recently jailed, for things that they have put on social media.

GLENN: Yeah. They've gotten.

LIZ: These may not be wise things that are put on social media, but there are other people who are being let out of jail who have committed --

GLENN: I know. I saw a story from England that was a pedophile, got less time than somebody who said something stupid on social media.

That person, they threw the key away. But person who was a pedophile, didn't have the same kind of sentence at all. That's madness!

LIZ: It is madness. What has happened is that our judiciary is no longer accountable. It's no longer accountable the way it was.

And this goes right back to the 2000s.

And it was the government that took away the accountability from our judiciary. And they outsourced so many decisions that used to be made by politicians.

Have now been out sourced to the bureaucracy.

And they are not accountable to anyone.

Not accountable to anyone.

GLENN: Yeah. Exactly what he did here.

So are you optimistic that because this is such an octopus. That, quite honestly, has the -- the intellectual power of the world. At the universities.

Has the money of the corporations. The power of the state. The power of the media.

This is going to be really hard to kill. This is a hydra. Are you -- are you optimistic that the people can win all around the world?

LIZ: The number one thing is the people are on our side. And they are becoming increasingly frustrated. And you saw that in Britain, of the last election, where it was the lowest proportion of the electorate voted for the two main parties because they are so frustrated.

That whoever they vote for, into office, they get the same policies. Because the bureaucrats are still there. So the people are on our side.

And that is our big strength.

It's going to be very important that Donald Trump wins the election, in the United States.

I hear good things, Glenn.

You're closer to the ground than me.

But this is vital.

And it isn't just vital to America. It's vital to the west overall. Because I can imagine what a Kamala Harris presidency will do for things like freedom of speech.

And it is not pretty.

GLENN: Especially in collusion with Starmer in England.

Great Britain. That's terrifying.

JUSTIN: That's right!

GLENN: Can I ask you, the Labor Party is doing something that is apparently legal here in the United States, as long as there's no money changing hands.

I would like to see anybody from Great Britain come and knock on doors in Texas.

They wouldn't really be welcome.

But you have 100 people from the labor party.

Socialist Party now. Coming over to the United States, and helping Kamala Harris, not only through advising. But actually, on the street, working for her campaign.

I've never seen that before. Have you?

LIZ: No. And given the rumination that they're bringing to Britain, I don't know why any American would think, that is what they want, in the United States.

Our energy prices are four times your energy prices because of our net zero agenda. Because we're not doing fracking. These are the kinds of policies, these people are advocating.

So I don't think any American, would want to listen to them.

I think there's a question though, these people who are coming over.

Who is paying for their airfares?

Who is paying for their accommodation?

Has that been properly accounted for? Have the receipts been produced?

Those are the questions I would be asking.

GLENN: If the Republican Party or the Democratic Party came over and did the same thing, how would -- how would the people of Great Britain react?

LIZ: Well, it would be. It would be a problem for the -- because under our electoral law, you have to be a British citizen.

GLENN: Yeah.

LIZ: To donate to the campaign.

GLENN: Right.

LIZ: And if the Americans have flown over. Who is paying for their flights?

That would count towards election expenses, and it would be classified as a foreign donation, which is illegal.

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Was an NGO with deep government ties trying to RESTART the opium trade in Taliban-run Afghanistan while former Taliban members were on its payroll...only to be caught DESTROYING the evidence?! The State Department's Under Secretary for Public Diplomacy Darren Beattie joins Glenn Beck to expose what he found when he was made Acting President of the United States Institute of Peace. Plus, he debunks ProPublica’s claim that DOGE “targeted” an “Afghan scholar who fled the Taliban.”

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GLENN: Darren, welcome to the program. How are you? Darren, are you there? Is he there?

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Okay. Check if he's there. Is he? Dick Cheney. Dick Cheney.

STU: Trying to shut him down. They don't want peace. They don't want peace.

GLENN: They don't. They don't.

He is -- he is a big-time anti-globalist. I've got to tell you, what we're doing with the State Department. I absolutely love. The State Department has been a big problem for this country for a very long time. It's what's gotten us into these global wars. These endless wars, and everything he is.

And, I mean, I don't know what happened to Marco rube, but he is tremendous.

And the way president Trump is appointing different people like Darren, it's fantastic. Darren, are you there? Darren.

STU: Something must be wrong with the lines. Because we are talking to him offline on the phone here. And it does seem to be working, but not coming through our broadcast board here for whatever reason.

GLENN: Well, let's see if we can get that fixed, and maybe let me just talk here for five, six minutes on something else. Then we'll take a break and come back and see if we can get him.

There's something else that I really want to talk about. And that is this flag-burning thing. Now, it's not an amendment.

This is something that the president is putting up in an executive order and has very little teeth to it.

But I -- I -- look, I understand. As a guy putting an enormous flagpole up at my house today.

I mean, an enormous flagpole.

I love the flag. I love it!

And there are a few things that make me more angry than see somebody you set our flag on fire.

For a lot of people, that's a punch in the gut, especially our military people. And it has been planted on distant battlefields. It's raced after victory. Saluted in the morning, or should be in our schools and folded and given to the hands of grieving families. It feels like spitting on every sacrifice, that ever made this nation possible. And the argument against flag burning is really simple: It dishonors the idea of all of that. Okay?

And it defends millions of people, including me. It disrespects, I think the veterans that bled. The families who mourned. The dream that binds us together.

However, here's the hard truth: Symbols only mean something, in a land where freedom is alive.

If you outlaw the burning of a flag, the you have placed the cloth above the Constitution that it represents. You have made the flag an idol.

We don't worship idols. If you can only praise the flag and never protest it, it just stops being a symbol of freedom. And starts being an idol of obedience.

Now, that's the argument for allowing it. At least to me.

Because the real strength of a free nation is -- is to -- it's -- it's how we protect, not the speech we love, but how we endure the speech we hate!

And the Supreme Court has already ruled on this. And, you know, they -- the line they drew wasn't an easy one. Freedom of speech, stops where it directly -- directly insights violence. And that's it same thing, kind of, in this executive order.

You can burn the flag. But if I'm not mistaken, but if it incites violence, then you're in trouble.

And that's true. But the bar of inciting violence is so incredibly high. And it's -- it doesn't have anything to do with speech that offends. It's not speech that stirs anger. Not speech that wants you to punch the speaker in the mouth. It's speech only, that provokes imminent and specific violence.

And unless it's that be with the government doesn't have any right to -- to get into the business of silencing speech. Ever. Ever. Ever.

It is a hard line. And that standard is really hard. It's painfully hard.

Because what our citizenship requires, this is civics. What our citizenships require, is that we defend -- oh, I hate this.

We defend the right of your opponent to mock everything that we hold sacred.

Now, I want you to think of this. You can burn a Bible. You can burn the Word of God. But some want to make it illegal to burn a flag. Where are our priorities? You can burn the Constitution. The words that actually are the ones that stir us into action. But you can't burn a flag.

You can't burn a Koran. Can't burn them. Can't. Can't.

You will -- you will quickly come to a quick end, not legally. But you will come to a quick end. I don't ever want to be like that. Ever!

You burn a Bible. I think you're a monster. What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you?

But you have a right to do it. Why are we drawing a line around the flag? It -- the reason is -- is because we feel things so passionately. And that is really a good thing, to feel love of country so passionately. But then we have to temper that. My father used to tell me, that I think this country needs to hear over and over again, every day. My father -- we would talk to somebody. And we would walk away. And he would go, I so disagree with everything that man just said. But, Glenn, son, he would say. I will fight to the death for his right to say it. He used to say that to me all the time. Which now lees me to believe, I know where I've got my strong opinions from. Because dad apparently would disagree with a lot of people all the time.

But that was the essence of freedom. That is the essence of what sets us apart. Standing for universal, eternal rights like free speech. It's not easy. It means you have to take the size of those people that offend you. It means -- it doesn't mean you have to disagree with it. You can fight against it. You can argue back and forth.

But you -- can you tolerate the insults to the things that you love most. That is so hard, and that is why most of the world does not have freedom of speech. It's too hard! But our Founders believed people are better than that. Our citizens can rule themselves!

And the only way you can rule yourself is if you don't have limits on freedom of speech. So the question is, do we want to remain free? Or do we want to just feel good? It really is that simple. It's why no one else has freedom of speech. It's too hard! I think we're up to the task. Okay. Give me 60 seconds. And then we will try again.

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All right. Let me -- let me bring Darren in. Darren, are you there now?

DARREN: Yes!
GLENN: Oh, God. Thank goodness.
Thank you for putting up with us. I don't know what happened with the phone system. But, first of all, tell me what the US Institute of Peace is. I've never even heard of it.

DARREN: That is a fantastic question. And I'll try to give the abbreviated answer, because I know we don't have several hours.

GLENN: Good. I know.

DARREN: But US Institute of Peace is one of lesser known, but quite important member of the NGO archipelago, that was created in the '80s. It belongs to the same cohorts as national endowments for democracy.

GLENN: Oh.

DARREN: And some other -- some other better known NGOs that really in the broad context of things. In kind of the sweep of things, was created as a kind of reorganization of the government structure in the aftermath of the church type committee hearings that expose a lot of the dirty dealings of government agencies such as the CIA, and so sort of a broader response to that government lie was to create this NGO layer of governance, with an armed distant plausible deniability, a kind of chameleon character of not exactly being government, not exactly being private, in order to fulfill some of those more sensitive functions that had been exposed in the course of the church hearings.

And so US Institute of Peace is one of those NGOs that had particular focus on conflict regions. But, of course, as I think you -- you suggested earlier, peace requires at the very least, an asterisk. Because there involves a lot of things, that conventional, most American citizens would not think should belong as part of the portfolio of something calling itself an institute of peace.

GLENN: So what was the thing with the -- with this Taliban member that was getting money from us?

DARREN: Right. So this is an interesting case. So there's a whole saga of a takeover of the US institute of peace under -- under DOGE.

And that's really a fascinating story unto itself. Just to give you a sense of what these characters were like. They barricaded themselves in the offices.

They sabotaged the physical infrastructure of the building. There were reports of there being loaded guns within the offices.

GLENN: Wow!

DARREN: There was one, like, hostage situation where they held a security guard under basically kind of a false imprisonment type situation. It was extremely intense.

Far more so than the better known story of USAID. And in the course of all of that, they tried to delete a terabyte of data, of accounting information that would indicate what kind of stuff they were up to.

What kind of people they were paying. And in the course of that, DOGE found that one of the people on their payroll. Was this curious figure, who had a prominent role in the Taliban government. And then seemed to kind of play a bunch of angles across each other.

Sort of one of these sixer types in the middle of Afghanistan.

The question is, what the heck is an organization like this, having an individual, who is a former Taliban member on their payroll.

It underscores how incredibly bizarre the whole arrangement is. And to just reinforce that. I think even more bizarre than having this former Taliban guy on the payroll is the kind of schizophrenic posture exhibited by the chief -- one truly bizarre thing is that one of the US Institute of Peace's main kind of policy agendas was basically lamenting the fact that the opium trade had dissipated under Taliban leadership. They had multiple reports coming out, basically saying, this is horrible, that the opium trade is diminished under the Taliban. Meaning, finding some way to restore it. How bizarre is that!

GLENN: What was their thinking?

DARREN: Well, it's -- it's very strange, and it depends on what kind of rabbit holes you want to go down. But the whole story of opium and Afghanistan and its connection to, you know, government entities, is a -- is a very intricate and delicate and fascinating one. But it seems very clear that the US Institute of Peace was involved in that story to some degree because their public reports. They had a full-the time guy of basically lamenting the fact that the opium trade dissipated under the Taliban. And, meanwhile, they're funding this former Taliban guy.

GLENN: Unbelievable. Now, ProPublica got this. And you have released the statement on it. And ProPublica just completely white-washed this -- said this guy was a victim, and his family was taken hostage. Was his family ever taken hostage because he was exposed?

And correct the ProPublica story, would you?

DARREN: Yeah, I mean, the ProPublica thing, as usual and as expected was a total joke.

GLENN: Yes.

DARREN: I mean, this guy, I'm not an expert on this particular person's history. But what's very clear is he was a former Taliban guy, and he was probably one of these people, who was playing all sides, made a lot of enemies. I know that there were several kind of attempts on his life by the Taliban, in the course of various -- various decades.

This has nothing to do with -- with DOGE.

I mean, he's a known quantity in the region.

And somebody who has made a lot of enemies.

And he was not -- he was on the payroll of the US institute of peace.

And nobody is expecting something like that. So then, and, again, there's this sort of hostile takeover situation.

Where the people are barricading he themselves in. Trying to delete all this data.

And sure enough, what's in the data, is stuff like this.

These random former Taliban guy, making his contract with $130,000.

GLENN: You know, this is the -- this is the real Deep State stuff, that I think bothers people so much.

Look, we expect our CIA to do stuff, we don't necessarily want to do it. We expect it.

When it's in the State Department.

When every department is pushing out money to NGOs to overthrow governments and everything else.

It's out of control!

It's just completely out of control.

And who is overseeing all of that.

DARREN: That's a great question.

I think part of the NGO -- UCEF was almost a cutout of a cutout.

A fourth of its money came from USAID.

In many ways, it was a cutout of USAID. Which itself was a cutout.

So there are many layers of distance. Plausible deniability.

And UCEF, I think institutionally really perfected this chameleon structure of being able to plausibly present itself as government. When that was convenient for what they were doing.

And also to present itself as a private organization, when that was convenient.

It's a very intricate setup that they had, that was truly optimized for this chameleon character of plausible denial operations. In conflict zones. Doing God knows what, with American taxpayer money.

And it's just an absolute hornet's nest.

We have recovered that terabyte that they tried to delete. And once we get things settled in the building itself, I intend to do a kind of transparency effort, whereby we release all of this material to the public.

GLENN: Good. Good.

DARREN: Just like I'm doing at the State Department. I'm currently acting as secretary at the State Department. And doing a transparency effort here. After I eliminated the global engagement center, which was sort of the internal censorship office within the State Department, decided, we've got to -- we've got to air this out to the public.

So within the next couple of weeks.

We'll have our next tranche of helps you of thousands of emails, documenting what this were doing.

GLENN: I would love you to go back on, through those emails.

I think you guys in the State Department are doing an amazing job. Thanks for being on.