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Why Europe’s ENERGY CRISIS is a WARNING to all Americans

We haven’t yet hit the depths of our current economic crisis, says financial expert Carol Roth. Author of ‘The War On Small Business,’ Roth explains why she likens today’s economy to a ‘horror movie.’ But the situation in Europe is even worse. In fact, the current energy crisis there gives Americans a glimpse into our own future if our leaders don’t turn things around soon. Glenn and Roth describe why a recent alert from Switzerland is ‘terrifying,’ what the U.S. can do to prevent a similar future, and the ‘anti-human’ effort spreading throughout the world…

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GLENN: The number of Americans that describe themselves as economic suffering, is now at the index highest since the poll started to be taken. It is the highest at 2008. More and more people are saying that they're not thriving. It was about 60 percent in June 2021. And now July, it is 51.2 percent. That's still pretty good. Half the country still considers themselves thriving. But what is -- what is concerning is the number of Americans who are suffering from that. There's a few things to mention to you here. Democrats have put in the climate law, that could be a game-changer. It was in the Build Back Better. Or inflation reduction bill. They put it in the last hour, to pretty much deal with the EPA ruling from the Supreme Court. They now can. And have the money to regulate all kinds of things that they say are toxic to the planet. One -- one other thing. MorganStanley says, cash looks relatively attractive right now. I wanted to bring in Carol Roth. She is the author of the War on Small Business. And former investment banker, who left the dark side to wield the power of the force on the light side. She has a new piece out for TheBlaze.com. Stop trying to turn America into Europe. Europe is self-destructing. And we won a hour, so we need you to follow suit.

Carol, I keep hearing all kinds of warnings about this fall, and what's going to happen. I'm really concerned. Is that real? Is that not real?

CAROL: Yeah. I've been calling it sort of the horror movie economy. I feel like everyone is taking this breather because it's gotten some data that doesn't look quite as bad as the really bad data. And so I likened it to a horror movie, where all of a sudden, everybody thinks, oh, okay. The killer is dead. And we're going to walk back into the shed, that has all the chain saws. Don't do that. The killer is not dead. That's not where you should be. So I really do think, it's this pause. We haven't hit the depths of sort of the economic recession that's potentially going to come later this year into next year. And, you know, the rolling over of the labor market.

And some of these bright spots, I think, are going to start to deteriorate.

If you just look at the consumer, which is 70 percent of our economy. You know, they have -- it's a book called Savings Rate, is at the lowest level since the great recession financial crisis. And we know that credit card debt is up double digits, since the beginning of the year. So the financial balance sheet of the average American is weakening. And, you know, all of these things are likely going to come together, on top of issues. You know, again, with energy. Where we've seen a little bit of a reprieve here.

GLENN: I saw a story coming out of Switzerland, about how they're begging the people to be prepared for what is coming with food shortages, and some sort of an economic collapse, because of the situation with energy.

And, I mean, it is spooky coming from the Swiss, who are usually just drinking their hot chocolate, and they're happy.

When you're talking about poverty and social unrest, that's a little terrifying. And it seems to be happening all over Europe. Are they ahead of us in real economic trouble?

CAROL: I certainly think they are because they are also ahead of us in this anti-human flourishing energy policy, in terms of, you know, turning over, you know, what could have been a great source of energy. And being more dependent on sources. Even though, we had some of that here in the USA. You know, certainly not anywhere near the extent they have in Europe. And fending on the particular country. The countries like the Netherlands, which are huge exporters of food, that are now saying, oh, well, you can't do this and you can't do this. And try to take away some of the farming, at the time, when we really need it. So it really seems like there is this sort of anti-human effort that is going on across the globe, starting in Europe. And now migrating to America. That is basically like. We don't care if you're suffering. Because we have this great initiative. That we're pushing. And we don't care what the fallout is from that. And, I mean, it's terrifying. This is something that is terrifying. It's why it's so important that we push back on that lunacy. If Europe wants to do that, that's fine. But our founding fathers won a war so that we didn't have to go across the pond and take dictation from them. We need to say, no. This is not the path that we're going down. And, unfortunately, it's the path that the Democrats want to go down.

GLENN: So I was talking to Vivek Ramaswamy. How much of an impact. He now told me $250 million in the first two weeks. How much of an impact, do you think this can have on moving us toward energy companies, saying, I don't care what BlackRock says?

GLENN: Well, you know, the big asset managers, I think between the big three, have something like $20 trillion in asset under management.

So 250 million is a valiant effort. And I'm not trying to downplay. Because we need to start somewhere. But, you know, it is currently a drop in the bucket, until we get some scale. And I think it's important that we need to have more companies that are doing that. The thing that you have to understand about companies, is that they're economic animals. And when it is no longer to their benefit, to be pushing this ESG stuff. It starts to go away. It starts to go sideways. And so it's really important for all of us. Whether you have your money in a pension fund, or a 401(k) that's managed by a third party, whether you're directly investing. You should be writing to where companies and saying, we don't want this. We want to have human flourishing. We want to have a variety of energy options. And if you continue down this path. Pull your money. Because the economic pain is the only thing that is really going to shift and change us.

GLENN: So I was looking at the stability of the world. We have Joe Biden, who is not stable. We have Vladimir Putin, who looks stable. However, with the bombing over the weekend, it could go unstable. I really believe that was probably an inside job. But it may not have been.

If it is Ukraine, we're going to be blamed, and things will get really ugly, quickly. There's something else, too. That nobody else is talking about.

The election of President Xi is coming up in November. This is the last election. He doesn't become a permanent dictator, until and unless he is elected this last time in November.

And when Nancy Pelosi went over -- if you remember, the press was saying, oh, Xi won't stand for this. He'll shoot her plane out of the sky, which is a crazy thing.

However, I'm told, from people who have deep connections in China, that this was the pushback on Xi, trying to get people to say, he's weak and dishonorable. Because to say, he allowed this to happen. That's why they were pushing these extreme scenarios, in all of their press.

So the entire world is unstable. And Vivek did a -- or a podcast with me, a couple of weeks ago. And he told me about the investments in China. And how they're really Shell organizations. You're not really investing in China. And I'm not sure people really understand that. And if China wants to pull out, and wants to cripple us. Wouldn't all they have to do is enforce the laws of, there are no investors that are foreign.

CAROL: So, yes. Any time you have a foreign company, that is listed in the United States, there are a couple of different entities within that may be involved, where you don't necessarily have direct ownership. An ADR. An American depository receipt. Is sort of a claim on shares done through a bank.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait. ADR. That means you keep your money on deposit?

CAROL: So what it means, is that there's an intermediate bank that goes and haves sort of a foreign subsidiary. They buy the shares, and they issue you the claim on those shares. So -- and this is done, by the way, by the biggest companies in the world. The Sonys of the world. They are per the SEC, thousands of these. Over 70 countries. So you don't necessarily have direct ownership there. The thing with China is that they have, you know, on top of the ADRs, another layer. These -- these variable interest entities. VIES, Which I think is what Vivek is talking about. And this is a mechanism to try to talk about the idea that you can't have foreign ownership of anything in China.

The reality of the situation, and I think that the lead that is very clear. Is that nobody really has any ownership of anything in China. Because they are a Communist country. I mean, even if you are a Chinese citizen, you buy a house, you don't own the land. You get a five to seven-year lease there. So the reality is, China does not need these VIES to crack down. It can do whatever it wants. I don't remember if you remember last year, there was a huge company out of China called Didi. It is their ride-sharing company. It's like the Uber of China. They decided, they wanted to list in the United States. China was not happy about that. And they were worried that with audits and disclosures, that secrets were going to leak to the United States. That is what they said. But really, they just didn't like the power going over here. And Didi flouted that power. And what did they do? They opened an investigation, and within months, they delisted Didi from the stock exchange. And tens of billions of dollars of shareholder value was lost, just because China said, yeah. We don't want you to do that. They disappeared Jack Ma for a while, the head of Alibaba, and they put the kibosh on (inaudible), which is their huge financial services firm that owned Ali Pay, was potentially going to be one of the largest companies in the entire world. So they can exercise dish it doesn't matter about these entities. The fundamental underlying issue is the fact that the communist control. And on top of that, the other thing we haven't talked about, is the rampant thought that often happens with Chinese listed companies. So if you're going to be enlisted in China, that little piece of how it's structured is one small concern over a whole --

GLENN: It seems like this is another CDO situation that caused the breakdown of '08. I think we have a bigger CDO, if I'm not mistaken. We have a bigger CDO problem than we had in 2008. Right?

CAROL: Potentially. The big issue of what happened, in my opinion in 2008. Was when they created these securities, what happened with these other entities that sold insurance on securities? That basically said, if something goes on, we will pay with insurance. Just like you insure a house. The problem is they sold like exponential factors more insurance than there were products. If you had ten houses in your neighborhood, and insurance policies were sold on 1,000 houses. Then every time one house burned down, you had to pay off for 100. That's really what caused it.

Not to say, that there wouldn't have been a crisis. There still would have been. But what really caused the depth of that was that exponential insurance that sold --

GLENN: Did we solve that problem?

CAROL: You know what, I don't know that we did. They tried to, you know, reign it in some. But the reality is, there were all kinds of derivative markets, that are truly just gambling. And so there is a lot of systemic opinion, in my opinion, in the market. Because there are products that are not tied directly to the direct ownership of something. That's why in the face of, you will own nothing, from the World Economic Forum. That you want to hold something physical, as much as possible. Even with gold, you want to hold physical gold. You don't want to buy an ETF. Because that ETF may or may not have the gold. It may be a promise. So the closer you can get to an actual, physical ownership of something, is your best way to ensure that you actually do own something.

GLENN: Carol Roth, you can follow her on her website, CarolRoth.com. It's also Carol J. Carol J.S. Roth on Twitter. You can follow her there, and she has a brand-new article out on Blaze.com. TheBlaze.com. Trying to -- stop trying to turn America into Europe, is the name of that article, you can find now. Carol, thank you so much. We'll talk to you again.

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EXPOSED: Tim Walz's shocking ties to radical Muslim cleric

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is directly connected in more ways than one to a radical Muslim cleric named Asad Zaman. Zaman's history and ties are despicable, and despite Walz's efforts to dismiss his connection to Zaman, the proof is undeniable. Glenn Beck heads to the chalkboard to connect the dots on this relationship.

Watch the FULL Episode HERE: Glenn Beck Exposes TERRORIST SYMPATHIZERS Infiltrating the Democrat Party

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Is there a sinister GOP plan to SELL national parks?

Is Sen. Mike Lee pushing a sinister plan to sell our national parks and build “affordable housing” on them? Glenn Beck fact checks this claim and explains why Sen. Lee’s plan to sell 3 million acres of federal land is actually pro-freedom.

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GLENN: Now, let me give you a couple of things, from people I generally respect.

Chris Rufo, I really respect.

I'm totally against selling this land.

Nobody is going to build affordable housing deep in the Olympic Peninsula, which is one of the most beautiful places in the country.

I agree, it's in Washington State. It's on the coast. And it's a rain forest.

I want my kids hiking, fishing, and camping on those lands, not selling them off for some tax credit scam. This is a question I want to ask Mike Lee about.

That's really good. Matt Walsh chimes in, I'm very opposed to the plan. The biggest environmentalist in the country are and always have been, conservatives who like to hunt and fish.

We don't just call ourselves environmentalists, because the label has too much baggage.

And the practice always just means communist. Really, we are naturalists in the tradition of Teddy Roosevelt, and that's why most of us hate the idea of selling off federal lands to build affordable housing or whatever. I want to get to affordable housing here in a second.

Preserving nature is important. It's a shame we haven't -- that we've allowed conservation to become so left-wing coated. It never was historically.

No, and it still isn't.

You're right about one thing, Matt. We are the best conservatives. We actually live in these places. We use these places. We respect the animals. We respect the land. We know how the circle of life works. So I agree with you on that.

But affordable housing. Why do you say affordable housing or whatever?

Are you afraid those will be black people? I'm just playing devil's advocate? Are you just afraid of black people? You don't want any poor people in your neighborhood or your forest?

That's not what they mean by affordable housing.

And I know that's not what you mean either.

But what -- what we mean by affordable housing is, if you take a look at the percentage of land that is owned in some of these states. You can't live in a house, in some of these states, you know. Close to anything, for, you know, less than a million dollars. Because there's no land!

There's plenty of land all around.

Some of it. Let's just talk about Utah.

Some of it is like the surface of the moon!

But no. No. No.

Not going to hunt and fish on the surface of the moon. But we can't have you live anywhere.

I mean, you have to open up -- there is a balance between people and the planet. And I'm sorry. But when you're talked about one half of 1 percent, and we're not talking about Yellowstone.

You know, we're not. Benji Backer, the Daily Caller, he says, the United States is attempting to sell off three million acres of public land, that will be used for housing development through the addition of the spending bill.

This is a small provision to the big, beautiful bill that would put land in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado. Idaho. New Mexico. Oregon. Utah. Washington, and Wyoming at risk.

Without so much as a full and fair debate by members of both sides of the political aisle.

You know, I talked -- I'll talk to him about this.

The irony is, the edition of this provision by Republican-led Senate goes entirely against conservation legacy of a conservation. President Trump made a promise to revive this legacy.

Yada. Yada. Yada.

More about Teddy Roosevelt.

Then let me give you this one from Lomez. Is Mike Lee part of a sinister plan to sell off federal land?

This plan to sell off public lands is a terrible proposal that doesn't make any sense under our present circumstances and would be a colossal political blunder. But I'll try to be fair to base Mike Lee.

And at least have him explain where this is all coming from.

Okay. I will have him do that in about 30 minutes.

Let me give you just my perspective on this.

I'm from the West. I love the west.

I don't hike myself.

I think there's about 80 percent of the people who say, I just love to hike. And they don't love to hike. They never go outside.

I'm at least willing to admit. I don't like to hike. But I love the land. I live in a canyon now. That I would love to just preserve this whole canyon in my lifetime. I'm not going to rule from the grave. But in my lifetime, to protect this, so it remains unspoiled. Because it is beautiful!

But we're talking about selling 3 million acres of federal land. And it's becoming dangerous.

And it's a giveaway. Or a threat to nature.

But can we just look at the perspective here?

The federal government owned 640 million acres. That is nearly 28 percent of all land in America!

How much land do we have?

Well, that's about the size of France.

And Germany. Poland.

And the United Kingdom, combined!

They own and hold pristine land, that is more than the size of those countries combined!

And most of that is west of the Mississippi. Where the federal control smothers the states.

Okay?

Shuts down opportunity. Turns local citizens into tenets of the federal estate.

You can't afford any house because you don't have any land!

And, you know, the states can't afford to take care of this land. You know why the states can't afford it?

Because you can't charge taxes on 70 percent of your land!

Anyway, on, meanwhile, the folks east of the Mississippi, like Kentucky, Georgia. Pennsylvania.

You don't even realize, you know, how little of the land, you actually control.

Or how easy it is for the same policies, to come for you.

And those policies are real.

Look, I'm not talking about -- I'm disturbed by Chris Rufo saying, that it is the Olympic forest.

I mean, you're not going to live in the rain forest. I would like to hear the case on that.

But we're not talking about selling Yellowstone or paving over Yosemite or anything like that.

We're talking about less than one half of one percent of federal land. Land that is remote.
Hard to access. Or mismanaged. I live in the middle of a national forest.

So I'm surrounded on all sides by a national forest, and then BLM land around that. And then me. You know who the worst neighbor I have is?

The federal government.

The BLM land is so badly mismanaged. They don't care what's happening.

Yeah. I'm going to call my neighbor, in Washington, DC, to have them fix something.

It's not going to happen.

If something is wrong with that land, me and my neighbors, we end up, you know, fixing the land.

We end up doing it. Because the federal government sucks at it.

Okay.

So here's one -- less than one half of 1 percent.

Why is it hard to access that land?

Well, let me give you a story. Yellowstone.

Do you know that the American bison, we call it the buffalo.

But it's the American bison.

There are no true American bison, in any place, other than Yellowstone.

Did you know that?

Here's almost an endangered species.

It's the only true American bison, is in Yellowstone.

Ranchers, I would love to raise real American bison.

And I would protect them.

I would love to have them roaming on my land.

But you can't!

You can't.

Real bison, you can't.

Why? Because the federal government won't allow any of them to be bred.

In fact, when Yellowstone has too many bison on their land, you know what the federal government does?

Kills them. And buries them with a bulldozer. Instead of saying, hey. We have too many.

We will thin the herd.

We will put them on a truck. Here's some ranchers that will help repopulate the United States with bison. No, no, no. You can't do that.

Why? It's the federal government. Stop asking questions. Do you know what they've done to our bald eagles.

I have pictures of piles of bald eagles.

That they'll never show you.

They'll never show you.

You can't have a bald eagle feather!

It's against the law, to have a feather, from a bald eagle!

If it's flying, and a feather falls off, you can't pick it up. Because they're that sacred.

But I have pictures of piles of bald eagles, dead, from the windmills.

And nobody says a thing.

Okay.

But we're talking about lands.

States can't afford to manage it.

Okay. But how can the federal government?

Now, this is really important.

The federal government is, what? $30 trillion in debt or are we 45 trillion now, I'm not sure?

Our entitlement programs, all straight infrastructure, crumbling.

And yet, we're still clinging to millions of acres of land, that the federal government can't maintain. Yeah, they can.

Because they can always print money.

We can't print money in the state, so we can't afford it.

Hear me out. The BLM Forest Service, Park Service, billions of dollars behind in maintenance, roads, trails, fire brakes.

Everything is falling apart..

So what's the real plan here?

Well, the Biden administration was the first one that was really open about it, pushing for what was called 30 by 30.

They want 30 percent of all US land and water, under conservation by 2030.

But the real goal is 5050.

50 percent of the land, and the water, in the government's control by 2050.

Half of the country locked up under federal or elite approved protection.

Now, you think that's not going to affect your ability to hunt, fish, graze, cattle. Harvest, timber, just live free. You won't be able to go on those. It won't be conservatives, who stop you from hunting and fishing.

It will be the same radical environmental ideologues, who see the land, as sacred, over people!

I mean, unless it's in your backyard. Your truck. Or your dear stand, you know, then I guess you can't touch that land.

Here's something that no one is talking about, and it goes to the 2030.

The Treasury right now, and they started under Obama, and they're still doing it now.

Sorry, under Biden.

And they're doing it now. The Treasury is talking about putting federal land on the national ballot sheet. What does that mean?

Well, it will make our balance sheet so much better.

Because it looks like we have so much more wealth, and we will be able to print more money.

Uh-huh. What happens, you know. You put something sacred like that, on your balance sheet, and the piggy bank runs dry.

And all of the banks are like, okay.

Well, you can't pay anymore.

What happens in a default?

What happens, if there's catastrophic failure. You don't get to go fish on that land. Because that land becomes Chinese.

You think our creditors, foreign and domestic, won't come knocking?

What happens when federal land is no longer a national treasure, but a financial asset, that can be seized or sold or controlled by giant banks or foreign countries.

That land that you thought, you would always have access to, for your kids, for your hunting lodge, for your way of life.

That is really important!

But it might not be yours at all. Because you had full faith in the credit of the United States of America.

So what is the alternative?

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Supreme Court UPHOLDS Tennessee trans law, but should have done THIS

The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in favor a Tennessee law that bans transgender surgeries for minors. But famed attorney Alan Dershowitz explains to Glenn why “it should have been unanimous.”

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GLENN: Alan Dershowitz, how are you?

ALAN: I'm doing great, how about you?

GLENN: It has been a really confusing week. I'm losing friends, I think, because I stand with Israel's right to defend themselves. And I'm pointing out, that while I don't want a war, Iran is a really bad place.

And then I see, the Supreme Court comes out best interest there are three justices are like, I don't know. I think children, you know, can change their identity before we even let them drive or carry a gun. Or enlist in the military.

It's insane!

ALAN: It is insane. Especially since the radical left said that -- 17 and a half-year-old -- voluntary sex with their boyfriend. That would be sexist, that would be horrible.

But they can consent to have an abortion. They can consent to have radical surgery, that can't be reversed.

By the way, the decision is like six to two and a half. Elena Kagan, my former colleague at Harvard, didn't reach the merits of whether or not a state could actually ban these operations on a minor. She got involved in whether or not you need super, duper scrutiny, or just super scrutiny, a kind of, you know, a very technical thing.

But she didn't rule on whether under any kind of scrutiny, the state could do that. So definitely, two of them said that the state could do it, but not necessarily a third one.

GLENN: Okay.

Can you break this argument down? And why it should have been unanimous?

ALAN: Oh, it should be unanimous. There's no question.

States under the Constitution, have the authority to decide medical issues. States decide a whole range of medical issues. I remember when I was a young professor, there was an issue of whether or not one twin could be operated on to remove a kidney, to be given to another twin.

And, you know, that case went all the way through -- the federal government never got involved in that. That was up to the state of Massachusetts. They made interesting decisions.

Some states go the other way.

Half the countries of Europe go one way. The other half go the other way. And just as Justice Brandeis once said that things are the laboratories of Constitutional experimentation.

They have the right to do things their own way. And then we'll see over time. Over time, I predict that we will find that this kind of surgery, is not acceptable scientifically for young people.

And the New York Times had an absurd op-ed yesterday. By the mother of a transgender person.

And it never mentioned. It originally said that the person was now 18 years old.

And the decision does not apply to anyone who is 18.

You know, just wait. Don't make irreversible decisions while you're 12 years old. Or 13 years old.

Because we know the statistics show, that some people, at least, regret having made these irreversible decisions, particularly. Yeah.

GLENN: So why is it -- why is it that the state. Why wasn't the argument, you can't do this to children?

ALAN: Well, you know, that's the question.

Whether or not if the state says, you can do it to children, that violates the Constitution. I think states are given an enormous amount of leeway, this. Deciding what's best for people.

You leave it to the public.

And, you know, for me, if I were, you know, voting. I would not vote to allow a 17-year-old to make that irreversible decision. But if the state wants to do it. If a country in Europe wants to do it. All right!

But the idea that there's a constitutional right for a minor, who can't -- isn't old enough to consent to a contract, to have sex, is old enough to consent to do something that will change their life forever, and they will come to regret, is -- is absurd.

GLENN: So I don't know how you feel about Justice Thomas. But he -- he took on the so-called experts.

And -- and really kind of took him to the woodshed. What were your thoughts on that?

ALAN: Well, I agree with that. I devoted my whole life to challenging experts. That's what I do in court.

I challenge experts all the time. But most of the major cases that I've won, have been cases where experts went one way, and we were -- persuaded a jury or judge. That the expert is not really an expert.

Experts have become partisans, just like everybody else.

And so I'm glad that expert piece is being challenged by judges.

And, you know, experts ought to challenge judges, judges challenge experts. That's the world we live in. Everybody challenges everybody else. As long as all of us are allowed to speak, allowed to have our point of view expressed, allowed to vote, that's democracy.

Democracy does not require a singular answer to complex medical, psychological, moral problems. We can have multiple answers.

We're not a dictatorship. We're not in North Korea or Iran, where the ayatollah or the leader tells us what to think. We can think for ourselves, and we can act for ourselves.

GLENN: Yeah. It's really interesting because this is my argument with Obamacare.

I was dead set against Obamacare. But I wasn't against Romneycare when it was in Massachusetts. If that's what Massachusetts wants to do, Massachusetts can do it. Try it.

And honestly, if it would work in a state, we would all adopt it.

But the problem is, that some of these things, like Romneycare, doesn't work. And so they want to -- they want to rope the federal government into it. Because the federal government can just print money. You know, any state wants to do anything.

For instance, I have a real hard time with California right now.

Because I have a feeling, when they fail, we will be roped into paying for the things that we all knew were bad ideas.

Why? Why should I pay for it in Texas, when I know it wouldn't work?

And I've always wanted to live in California, but I don't, because I know that's not going to work.

ALAN: Yeah. But conservatives sometimes take the opposite point of view.

Take guns, for example.

The same Justice Thomas says that I state cannot have the authority to decide that guns should not be available in time square.

Or in schools. There has to be a national openness to guns. Because of the second apple.

And -- you can argue reasonably, what the Second Amendment means.

But, you know, conservatives -- many conservatives take the view that it has to be a single standard for the United States.

It can't vary in their decision how to control -- I'm your favorite --

GLENN: Isn't that -- doesn't that -- doesn't that just take what the -- what the Bill of Rights is about, and turns it upside the head?

I mean, it says, anything not mentioned here, the states have the rights.

But they -- they cannot. The federal government cannot get involved in any of these things.

And these are rights that are enshrined.

So, I mean, because you could say that, but, I mean, when it comes to health care, that's not in the Constitution. Not in the Bill of Rights.

ALAN: Oh, no.

There's a big difference, of course.

The Second Amendment does provide for the right to bear arms.

The question is whether it's interpreted in light of the beginning of the Second Amendment. Which says, essentially, a well-regulated, well-regulated militia. Whether that applies to private ownership as well.

Whether it could be well-regulated by states.

Look, these are interesting debates.

And the Supreme Court, you know, decides these.

But all I'm saying is that many of these decisions are in some way, influenced by ideology.

The words of the Constitution, don't speak like, you know, the Ten Commandments and God, giving orders from on high.

They're often written in ambiguous terms. Even the Ten Commandments. You know, it says, thou shall not murder. And it's been interpreted by some to say, thou shall not still, the Hebrew word is (foreign language), for murder, not kill. And, of course, we know that in parts of the Bible, you are allowed to kill your enemies, if they come after you to kill you, rise up and kill them first.

So, you know, everything -- human beings are incapable of writing with absolute clarity, about complex issues.

That's why we need institutions to interpret them. The institutions should be fair.

And the Supreme Court is sometimes taking over too much authority, too much power.

I have an article today, with gay stone.

Can had starts with a quote from the book of Ruth.

And it says, when judges rule the land, there was famine.

And I say, judges were not supposed to ever rule, going back to Biblical times.

Judges are supposed to judge.

People who are elected or pointed appropriately. Are the ones supposed to rule.

GLENN: Quickly. Two other topics. And I know you have to go.

If I can get a couple of quick takes on you.

The Democrats that are being handcuffed, and throwing themselves into situations.

Do you find that to be a sign of a fascistic state or a publicity stunt?

ALAN: A publicity stunt. And they would knit it. You know, give them a drink at 11 o'clock in the bar. They will tell you, they are doing this deliberately to get attention.

Of course, a guy who is running behind in the mayor race in New York, goes and gets himself arrested. And now he's on every New York television station. And probably will move himself up in the polls.

So no.

Insular -- I don't believe in that. And I don't believe we should take it -- take it seriously.

GLENN: Last question.

I am proudly for Israel.

But I'm also for America. And I'm really tired of foreign wars.

And I think you can be pro-Israel and pro-America at the same time.

I don't think you can -- you don't have to say, I'm for Israel, defending themselves, and then that makes me a warmonger.

I am also very concerned about Iran. And have been for a very long time.

Because they're Twelvers. They're Shia Twelvers. That want to wash the world in blood. To hasten the return of the promised one.

So when they have a nuclear weapon. It's a whole different story.

ALAN: No, I agree with you, Tucker Carlson, is absolutely wrong, when he say he has to choose between America first or supporting Israel. Supporting Israel in this fight against Iran, is being America first.

It's supporting America. Israel has been doing all the hard work. It's been the one who lost its civilians and fortunately, none of its pilots yet.

But America and Israel work together in the interest of both countries.

So I'm -- I'm a big supporter of the United States, the patriarch. And I'm a big supporter of Israel at the same time.

Because they work together in tandem, to bring about Western -- Western values.

GLENN: Should we drop a bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should.

GLENN: Our plane drop the bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should. And without killing civilians. It can be done. Probably needs four bombs, not one bomb. First, one bomb to open up the mountain. Then another bomb to destroy what's going on inside.

And in my book The Preventive State, I make the case for when preventive war is acceptable. And the war against Iran is as acceptable as it would have been to attack Nazi Germany in the 1930s. If we had done that, if Britain and France had attacked Nazi Germany in the 1930s, instead of allowing it to be built up, it could have saved 60 million lives. And so sometimes, you have to take preventive actions to save lives.

GLENN: What is the preventive state out, Alan?

ALAN: Just now. Just now.

Very well on Amazon.

New York Times refuses to review it. Because I defended Donald Trump.

And Harvard club cancelled my appearance talked about the book. Because I haven't been defending Harvard. I've been defending President Trump's attack. By the way, they called Trump to Harvard: Go fund yourself.
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GLENN: Okay.

Let's -- I would love to have you back on next week. To talk about the preventive state. If you will. Thank you, Alan. I appreciate it. Alan Dershowitz. Harvard Law school, professor emeritus, host of the Dershow. And the author of the new book that's out now, The Preventive State.

I think that's a really important topic. Because we are -- we are traveling down the roads, where fascism, on both sides, where fascism can start to creep in. And it's all for your own good.

It's all for your own protection. Be aware. Be aware.

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