So Mr Obama is happy to be the 4th best President ever in the history of our nation and places three others ahead of himself?

Lets see…

Mr Obama — Narcissist, egotistical, god-complex, acts like the messiah, openly is rebellious of the Constituiton and the will of the people; intends the destruction of the nation.

FDR — progressive, nearly a dictator, nearly sundered the Republic. Most of his stuff overturned by the Supreme Court.

Johnson — arrogant, condensing, vain, believed in the New Society (I think that is what he called it), Progressive to the core;

Lincoln — Fought the war of the states for the Restoration of the Union; ended slavery; wanted to be magnaminous in the reconciliation with the South.

Well at least in the case of Johnson and FDR Mr Obama did get it right. He is comparable to those two destroyers. And the way he is pushing us into a Third World War, he will rival the leaders of FDR and Wilson — though with the blood of untold millions on his hands already.

Just imagine, he hasn’t even finished his first term and already talks of being in the top four presidents ever! What a misguided jerk! It is a sign of an egomaniac to even think that way, when his popularity has been steadily going down the tubes. But, be careful, America. This guy may just muster enough lies to get re-elected in 2012. I think Kroft was too easy on the man during that interview.

For 3 years I’ve been posting, Obama suffers from NPD. Our nation is being lead by a man with a serious mental disorder. Where is Keith Ablow? Where is the APA? Why have people not talked about this in any media? Am I the only one that sees this?

If chit could back fire, Obama would choke to death!

i would have called him Mr.Ego and the worst President since Carter.

I am unfortunately just jaded enough about the modern American mentality that I too believe Obama may likely be reelected.  But, he’s right in that he’s done more than any president I know of.  More to destroy America, to financially and morally bankrupt America, to divide America, to stick a knife through America’s heart…

How does this man get his HUGE head through a doorway or pull it up off the pillow in the morning. I guess when you are as bad an American as he is the only person that will give him a glowing report is himself. WOW!!!! if he ever falls over in the bathtub he will drown before they can get him back up right.

No you are not the only one who sees this. There are lots and lots of mental health professionals who see it too. But the MSM has no intention of ever,ever allowing this discussion to take place. You see, they too are afflicted with NPD.

To really get to know President Obama may be the single most important thing a citizen of the United Status of America can do to preserve the U.S. Constitution.

His is the man of hope and change. He hopes you don’t notice what kind of change is happening to America. He has delusions of grandeur.

4th best president?
I have a better trophy for him – 1st WORST president.
Best spendthrift we’ve ever had (Gold Medal)
Best president for our enemies
Best economic wrecking ball
Best in corruption
My GOD this guy is talented.

Am sure he actually believes this to be true. He has to pick Lincoln (another US President which suffered massive ego and mentally unstable) solely on the slavery issue Then Johnson and FDR based on their socialist views. In his mind they are the greatest Presidents and he considers himself just like them. He is wrong on all of them of course. Lincoln should have been impeached for abuse of power trying to have a supreme court justice imprisonment because the justice ruled against him. FDR who policies kept us in a deep depression over 6 years longer than it should have and LBJ who single handed lead to the defeat in the Vietnam war by micromanaging every move in the White house and setting terms for combat when prevented victory and leading to 10,000s unnecessary US casualties.

I think he under valued himself, I think he’s the best worst President ever. Think what he probably hears though, all those that give him his marching orders, Soros, union thugs his wife Bill Ayers and all those other radicals are telling him how great he is and keep up the good work. Then you got all the other boot lickers he surrounds himself with, of course he thinks he’s doing a great job.

Wow!!  That is really humbling.  For the O to bring himself up to only number four?  I bet that took a lot of soul searching.  As humble as this man is I wonder if him and Michelle will get a divorce?  It would probably be the first in history where the other person in the marriage was the spouse.  It brings to question, “Can a person cheat on their spouse when they are so much in love with themselves?”  For all of the lawyers out there it may make an interesting case.
Egomaniacal as all of this seems it is also dangerous.  It is even more so in the position this man is in.  Unless I am wrong an egomaniac can and will sacrifice everything to maintain their illusion.  Nothing is as precious to them as themselves.  I would be more than happy if there are those out there that would step in and contradict me using empirical evidence and references.  I would really live to be proven wrong on this.

I’m afraid Obama may get back in office because our elections now are only a base for voter fraud. Thanks to the Obama & the democrats who will do anything to win an election. I also feel that God may be placing Obama where he is to carry out His plans. I’m not saying Obama is the anti-christ but he is the next best thing for the anit-christ. Possibly the devil incarnate! Joking but not joking. Sometime people get what they want but it turns out to be all wrong. Obama is proof the American people put in a man that has and is destroying our great nation.  Another four more years and Obama and his cronies will accomplish their mission. God help us all if he is re-elected.

Look up “Man Territory” In Chicago and type in Obama’s name.

From Sunday’s 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, Televised “Meet the Press” THE THEN Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag. General Bill Ginn’ USAF (ret.) asked Barry Barak Hussen Obama to explain WHY he doesn’t follow protocol when the National Anthem is played. The General stated to Obama that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171…During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Or, at the very least, “Stand and Face It”. ‘Senator’ Obama replied: “As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides”. “There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression..” “The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all that sort of thing.”

President Barry Barack Hussein Obama spoke to the graduating class at Hampton University in Hampton, Virginia. The man who made the internet a cornerstone of his campaign, tweeted (or twitted?) constantly to hundreds of thousands, if not millions of young fans, and used Facebook and other social media to great advantage, told the graduates that they were facing a new world in which they would be bombarded by too much unfiltered information. Further, the man who won election on the promise of ‘change’, told them that, unfortunately, the breathtaking change caused by this overload of information couldn’t be stopped. His speech seemed to imply that being exposed to all kinds of arguments is a BAD thing. That it might even threaten democracy. It’s a far cry from the time Americans treasured a ‘multiplicity of voices.’ That expansive variety of thought and expression guaranteed that somehow, some way, the truth would be heard. Apparently, that’s not what the Obama administration has in mind. In fact, in the financial reform bill, they’re seeking to put control of the internet in the hands of the Federal Trade Commission. Think about the almost total control of every aspect of our lives the government has gained through the misapplication of interstate commerce laws! Obama tells graduates that they are facing a new world in which they will be bombarded by too much unfiltered information? Being exposed to all kinds of arguments is a bad thing? The President who promised change wants to control every aspect of your life? This coming from a President who has concealed the following documentation about his life: kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records?

Slip of the tongue or momentary confusion? In a television interview discussing his religion, Sen. Barack Obama stated, “My Muslim faith.” Obama, speaking to ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on “This Week,” was talking about what he described as “smears” that were claiming he was a Muslim when he maintains he is a practicing Christian. “Let’s not play games,” Obama stated. “What I was suggesting – you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you’re absolutely right that that has not come.” Stephanopoulos immediately interrupted Obama, stating, “Christian faith.” “My Christian faith,” Obama quickly said. “Well, what I’m saying is that he (McCain) hasn’t suggested that I’m a Muslim. And I think that his campaign’s upper echelons have not, either. What I think is fair to say is that, coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I’m not who I say I am when it comes to my faith – something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time.” The statements came amid an exchange in which Obama accused Republicans of spreading “lies” that he is a Muslim. McCain, though, has strongly condemned such accusations. “These guys love to throw a rock and hide their hand,” Obama said. But Stephanopoulos corrected the Illinois senator, stating, “The McCain campaign has never suggested you have Muslim connections.” Obama replied: “I don’t think that when you look at what is being promulgated on Fox News, let’s say, and Republican commentators who are closely allied to these folks.” “But John McCain said that’s wrong,” Stephanopoulos shot back.

Sorry, That was Mans Country, a gay bath house in Chicago….look it up.

I sincerely believe that a person is capable of doing only what they believe they are capable of doing. That said, I find it discouraging that so many have already decided that Obama can’t be beaten. He can, but it is going to take more than commenting on these blogs. We all know that Obama and the dems have stolen billions from the stimulus money and a lot of that will be spent on his reelection. We need to be prepared to go door to door just like the latest ACORN crew and work for this nation. If you’re not willing to pound the pavement or put out some fliers, or put in any money you can, then we will lose. This is up to us. Even if the so-called conservatives in Congress gave it everything they had, they cannot do it alone. Obama is buying votes with food stamps, welfare, the promise of canceling school loans, and a million other ways, that will be hard to beat, but it can be done. If we do not win in 2012, I sincerely believe there will not be an election in 2016. Pray to God for guidance, and then get to work.

OBAMA COMES FROM ANOTHER PLANET IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY— SO DOES HIS THINKING– HE ONLY GRADUATED KINDERGARDEN BEFORE HE CAME TO EARTH WHERE HE LIVES IN THE LAND OF 57 STATES.  YOU CAN TELL WHEN HE LIES BECAUSE THATS EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH AND TALKS.  NONE THE LESS –HE IS STILL THE SMARTEST DUMB ASS ON THE PLANET EARTH–  MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU…

And I’ve heard with my own ears from Palin that she not allowed by McCain’s managers, to speak of Rev Wright n the campaign. I only heard her say this once and never again…as if someone got a hold of her and gave her a speaking to. Remember she also endorsed McCain for re-election to the senate, just once (as if payback)

Hasn’t any one picked up that this man has a mental problem. First of all he is the only one that thinks he is great,when in fact he is a deveit. In his world he will be a ruller of America.now there is a dream he is living when in fact he is walking on the edge of life.

Huh? What r u talking about?

If u say something, anything, people will beleive you. they have always run a campaign of psychology

If the DUMB conservatives out there start a third party run we will have Obama for the next four years and probably a revolution.

Fellow AMERICANS,
HE didn’t mean the 4th best the telepromptor and or his people just forgot the other # 4 !!!

Obama may have done more than any administration, but that doesn’t mean that what was

passed was good.  I’d like to shove that damn ObamaCare down his throat.  More people didn’t

want it, but the Democrats did so many dirty tricks and got it passed.  The foolish uniter is

such a divider.  Look at our country.  He has done so much damage and created so much hate.

Wow   Hope he doesn’t dislocate his shoulder patting himself on the back.
Number 4 and just one term?   If he gets a second one he will be number one.  

Its not that I fear Mr. Obama will ever earn an election victory, given his acceptance of gross union corruption, the trough feeding frenzy of socialists devouring the GDP of the American people and the paydays visited upon his anti-American domestic allies, I worry more of a stolen election.  As I watch this man oil his way thru the progressive socialist movement, with the help of horrifying men and women like Holder, Sibelious and his supreme court justice with her oh-so-carefully parsed words, America as a nation of law, of standards in ethics, values seems beleagured.
  Regardless of what is declared after Mr. Obama’s next election, IF he claims victory, and the 4th estate supports him, its time for a revolution. The men and women who have greased his way into power must be the first to be taken down, tried, and convicted of treason. His cabinet, czars and federal judges next.  And before “We, the People” bring Mr. Obama into the docket, the two justices he appointed must be tried, convicted and punished for treason.
  Then so called social progressives, Maxine Walters and the CBC must be routed out, and loose their American citizenship. Then we can start re-making america into the land it was designed to be.

You are an idiot. 

You are an idiot.

You are an idiot.

You are.  Probably because you are an idiot.

I bet you voted for W.  What a great leader HE was.  You are an idiot.

Seriously?!  You want empirical evidence and references to prove that you are an idiot???  I think a mirror should suffice.  Nothing in this world has been proven to be more dangerous than greed, conservatism and religion.

Reminds me of that children’s program, The Electric Company where they ask the kids;  “Which one is unlike the others?”  Yeah, even my 2 year old has that one figured out. 

You are an idiot and should probably be in prison or a psychiatric hospital.  I shudder to imagine how bad things would be if a Republican were in charge right now.  Endless wars… no healthcare for the poor… outrageous gas prices… big business out of control… no regulations or accountability… guns… guns… more guns… etc…  Conservatives only care about money and power… not helping people or their country.  Pure evil. 

You are also an idiot. 

omg… yeah, let’s do that for him… we’ll compare them and see which presidencies had more to do with decaying our country… I already did and EVER SINGLE FREAKING Dumpocrap president efed us up more grandeouso than any.  Not to say that the other side didn’t help and in the past 20 years, there really is all THAT much difference between them.

He WILL get re-elected.  Why?  Because he cares and actually tries to get things done.  The Republicans have nothing but corrupt morons who only think about their bank accounts.  If these “fake” men of faith actually believed what they preach… they’d all be on the fast track to hell.  BTW… you are an idiot. 

Early on, I wasted some time arguing with idiots and the key word I hear him say (which is what they are all saying) is the word “trend.”  Like when the unemployment was stagnant at 9.1% but the claims went down… those morons actually called that a trend…. lol

Prove it…

why do you end each post with “you are an idiot”? OHH!! I get it now! Takes one to know one….thus the name you picked!

Yes Obama “cares” about us. That’s why he is always trying to show us how to perfect our golf swing..

ever heard of Stalin, Hitler and Mao?

Oh,boo hoo hoo….

she needs to bake him up a little humble pie…

don’t go away mad, just go away…

Get a life, you are just making yourself look stupid. BTW, no one seems to care what you think, do they, except for you?

Why?  Because I speak the truth.  No law against that, at least not yet !!!

Narcissism, thy name is Barack Obama.

Anyone who calls themselves TheIdiotPolice has a moron problem. That problem is that they are more of an idiot than those they self proclaim to police.

Obama will not be reelected. He has tried to buy the votes of the 50% now on the government teat but I give the average American enough credit to see his many many failures.  It is extremely sad to see his divisiveness working on many formerly good people.  I honestly believe Obama hates White people, hates capitalism, hates rich white people ( doesn’t seem to hate rich black people like Oprah etc.).  He operates outside the constitution by appointing Czars, uses the Justice Department to hide his crimes and thefts.  It will take 10 years to undo his unconstitutional moves and find and lock up all his co-conspirators.  It will also take a generation to get Americans heads right to want to work to rebuild the greatness of America.  He gets my vote for worst ego-maniac ever elected to be president.  

Will the real idiot stand up?
Obama has enriched himself a few hundred times over – the Michelle spends like a drunken ho out for the weekend.  BHO & AlGore will be billionaires if the cap and trade legislation passes – they own the exchanges that will process the carbon credits.
But beware:  the 1st round of Cool-Aide just rotted your brain; the next will ensure that you are not a drag on society in your old age.
And about Lincoln:  he abused his Presidential War Powers to ‘free’ the slaves -  his Emancipation Proclamation wasn’t approved by Congress for two years after he released 3,000,000+ slaves with NO plan for their future except the vague promise of ’20 acres and a mule’.
They went from Institutionalized people largely denied education to ‘free’ men with the most basic of skills and no knowledge of business, management, managing a farm or trading in/for cash, etc.
In short, they were dumped into a freedom that had no place for them.  If Lincoln had not been in such a hurry to please his puppet-masters, a program could have been created and executed to ease the transition to their new status.

His Proclamation of Misrepresentations is  just incredible.

Maybe he should be given a participation award. Uh, but no, that might mean he actually participated.  Ah, but he has, in his vacations.

4th best?   after spending what.. 14 trillion dollars in his first term attempt at destroying a nation?  Just one trillion dollars is a 1 by 12 zeros! To put that in perspective, if you started spending a million dollars every single day since Jesus was born, you still wouldn’t have spent one trillion dollars let alone 14.

Well, W. WAS a great leader.  He freed not 1 but 2 countries.  He drastically weakened terrorism across the globe.  W.’s policies led to the death of BOTH Hussein AND Osama.  W. drastically weakened Al Queda.  W. kept the economy together after both 9/11 and Katrina.

What has Obama ever done?  You are an idiot.

Uhm, just to let you know, you are dead wrong concerning Abe Lincoln.  Lincoln did NOT suffer from massive ego and most certainly was NOT mentally unstable.  Lincoln did NOT abuse his power whatsoever.  Where do you even get that outright lie from?

Dead wrong, again, idiot.  Obama cares NOTHING about anyone but himself and has so far gotten NOTHING done.  He’s gotten NOTHING done now.  What makes you think he’ll actually get something done in another term.  The Republicans are the ONLY ones who’ve provided real answers the last few years.  Since these real men of faith actually practice what they preach, they are on a fast track to victory.

BTW, you are an idiot.

I’m surprised B.O. placed himself in 4th place and not higher.   Must have been his humility.

You are also an idiot.  See.  I can do it too.  Only it’s actually true when I do it.

You are.  Most definitely because you are an idiot.

ezekiel, sounds about right to me.

You are an idiot.

You are an idiot and should definitely be in prison or a psychiatric hospital.  If a Republican were in charge right now, we’d be much better off.  Wars that are actually just… healthcare for those who actually want and deserve and fight for it… fair gas prices… big business actually HIRING people… fewer regulations and accountability so businesses can actually get the job don… guns… guns… more guns so the US public can actually take care of themselves… etc.  Liberals only care about money and power, and not about helping people of their country.  Pure evil.

LOL.  You seriously are an idiot.

You are an idiot.

Seriously?!  You want empirical evidence and references to prove that you are an idiot???  I think a mirror should suffice.  Nothing in this world has been proven to be more helpful than greed, conservatism, and religion.

Now that is the truth, idiot.  Funny, how everything you said there is a lie, isn’t it?  Maybe you can start looking at actual FACTs some time.

mamato,   God help our nation if this man is reelected.  Can you say: Euro-America?

Or USSA=United Socialist States of America?

You are a massive idiot of the highest order of idiots.  Congrats for being the most idiotic of idiots.

If a sports reporter asks a great player like, say, Aaron Rodgers or Kareem Abdul-Jabbar how he thinks he stacks up against greats of the past, the typical answer is “that’s for others to decide”. It may be humility, but it’s also just common sense. Nobody likes to hear someone telling you how great he is. That’s one of the reasons people always resented Wilt Chamberlain. The fact is that Obama does not stack up well at all against the historical giants who have occupied the White House, beginning with Washington himself. He is petty, small-minded and vainglorious (but he is a politician, so I repeat myself). He doesn’t have sufficient self-confidence to believe that others would decide to rank him that well, so he does it himself. He is a pathetic man, perhaps ably suited to the task of leading our great country into oblivion, but a pathetic man nonetheless.

Pat,  Am curious—-was that the place with the connection to two of B.O.’s ”friends” who

were murdered in Chicago?

obammy certainly needs a dose of humility—but would it do him any good?  His self-platitudes merely indicate just how much a meglomaniac he is…and it’s worse than hitler’s! 

Lincoln’s abuse of power rests in his zeal (massive ego) to maintain the contigious United States by forbidding the Southern States from seccession.  The US Constituition ALLOWS for any State to leave the union and does NOT allow for usurping that State’s decision to dissolve the relationship.  Furthermore, Lincoln himself did NOT want to free any slaves and said as much.  So Rick’s opinion is NOT an “outright lie” as you claim.  Lincoln was not as great as you seem to think.

If you give obammy a ‘participation award’ does this mean he will have to return his ill-gotten “Nobel Peace Prize?”

”icare”,  Re: voter fraud.  There are those who want voters to show an ID card before

they can vote in our country.   As you can imagine, there has been a loud hue and cry

from liberals, the ACLU and all who say things like: it’s unconstitutional, to: it discrimi-

nates against the poor.     On O’Reilly’s show on Thurs., there were letters from some

living outside the US who stated THEY had to show picture ID’s in order to vote.

He has one of those traction pulleys—you know, the kind the hospitals use for people who have their limbs in casts and need mechanical assistance to get out of bed.  And the reason he doesn’t drown in the bathtub is because the water isn’t turned on until he is safely sitting IN the tub; they drain the water before  he is assisted out of the tub.  Did you ever wonder how Sigmund Freud would have catagorized this egomaniac…have fun with that one!!!

roy, may I call you roy?   ”—bombs bursting in air—”, huh?   Does B.O. have any IDEA

where that phrase came from?   Does he even know the story behind the Star Spangled

Banner and what the words mean?  Of course, he rec’d his early schooling in a Muslim

school in Indonesia, so this probably wasn’t covered.

dad, the poor soul sounds like a stuck record.  Has the same reply to

those with whom he disagrees, without explanation.  

Well, roy, what do you expect from the man who said he wanted a presidency that was

transparent?   Just another of the catchphrases he used in his campaign.   I’ve often

wondered why there has been so much of a cover up in his records.  Are things so bad

that they need to be hidden?   And since the LSM wanted him so badly, they never

bothered to ask or look into it.  Now, if a conservative was doing this—-

Robin,  The Reps have to take a page from the Dems playbook and use the electronic

media much more than in the past if they want to get in contact with the younger voters.

And you are right about going from door to door.  Yes, that’s also a must.  Facts have to

be brought out about matters such as: what the huge US debt will cost the taxpayers.

It’s very important that voters be made aware that if the gov’t grows and gets bigger, it

will be taking some freedoms away from the individual.  Back it up with stories about

what happened in Soviet Russia and the Nazi governments.

Mr pinochio has spoken!!!!!! AGAIN ?

And O.M.A., W. certainly shows a lot more class than our current fellow

in the WH.

Actually, Rick’s opinion was an outright lie concerning Lincoln.  Lincoln forbade NOTHING.  All he wanted to do was bring the country back together.  He most definitely did NOT have a massive ego.  Also, Lincoln DID want to free the slaves and said as much.  He, like the majority of our founding fathers, wanted to free ALL of the slaves, just not to the detriment of our nation.  Lincoln ALWAYS put the welfare of this nation above all else. So, you are outright lying when you say he didn’t want to do so.

Also, just to inform you, but there is NOTHING in the US Constitution that actually allows for a state to leave the union.  I will grant you that there is if you are to extend the meaning of the US Constitution, but that is what liberals do.  The US Constitution as it stands now, and as it stood then, guarantees NO right of secession to the states.  It never has.  I take you to this site here http://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_a4.html which states, and I quote, “The Constitution does not permit a state to secede once it is a part of the Union. However, it does not prevent it either.”  Might do you well to study up on what the US Constitution actually allows and disallows, you know.

Lincoln was a lot better than you seem to think, you know. Might want to study up a bit on Lincoln there. He certainly did NOT have a massive ego and most certainly was NOT mentally unstable. Lincoln did suffer through depression. But that certainly didn’t make him mentally unstable. Lincoln was humble throughout his Presidency.

Ain’t it the truth.  Took Bush nearly 3 years just to open up and let his opinions out.  Will likely take Obama all of about 3 seconds out of his Presidency to brag about how he destroyed our country.

Unfortunately, none of the candidates really stand out and that includes Rick Santorum. Glenn Beck seems to feel that Santorum is the right choice but I don’t see that happening at all.  He lacks that “Fire in the Belly” as Palin talks about.  Ron Paul is more animated than any of the candidates I saw on tonights fox debate.

This man is a bi-product of the Soros regime, he has been programed from the day he was hatched. He excelled in the ethics of lying. He has excelled in learning the definition of the word screw. He is outstanding when it comes to to playing the hide and seek game. He rejoices in the game of tag. He majored in the game of monoply. He plays spin the bottle well with our foreign countries. He plays chutes and ladders expertly. However, this poor man with all these attributes has never learned to be a true American citizen, and he has never learned that perhaps he should have learned the game of truth or consequences.

It is truly amazing to me that this man has declared himself the 4th most important President in history . . . guess he hasn’t noticed the low approval rating given to him by his “subjects!”  His response surely must be, “Off with their heads!” 

One has to wonder just how far he will push before a country-wide uprising develops and he is able to declare martial law!  He will use his “private army” (as well funded, as well staffed and as well trained as our current military) to arrest “disloyal subjects” who are declared terrorists under the new National Defense Authorization Act!!!

Think it couldn’t happen?  Don’t be too sure . . . this new piece of legislation does not specifically STATE that American citizens or authorized visitors to our country are exempt.  One should be able to safely assume that we will retain our rights but leaving anything to chance is dangerous.  We all know that the unintended consequences could result in an action similar to imprisoning Japanese Americans during WWII!!!

Sorry, but he acts like a god just not the messiah.  I believe he is just the opposite!!!  Sad, Sad, Sad.  I to believe, Obama just might get reelected because there is not enough to chose from – what is running is Sad, Sad, Sad!!!

Of course, what can we expect from a self serving and self empowered authority? His delusion does not equal the impression he leaves others with. He obviously thinks this is funny, or annoying to serious people, but all he really succeeds in doing is making himself look foolish.

4th best?  Clearly these are more of his delusions of grandeur.  

Sadly, the mentality of a lot of people out there makes it possible that he could be re-elected.  Never thought Clinton would be re-elected.  Talk to people; they do not think clearly or logically.  

Obama is correct when he said he has done more for this country than possibly FDR.   He has brought us closer to FDR’s dream of the “Fatal Conceit!”

Rick Santorum DOES have a ‘fire in his belly’.  Apparently you haven’t followed any of the live TV debates…he’s incredible!  He challenged Romney and Perry when they were at the head of the pack without blinking an eye.  I talked with him in Orlando, FL and he is a real fighter.  You need to check out his bio.  He’s not afraid of anyone, and has hard core conservative beliefs and dedication to freedom.  Check him out!

Sir, at least I don’t call others idiots! Everybody is entitled to their opinions, right or wrong. But, suggesting by your own call name you certainly do fit your own image. I admire someone who can call himself an idiot. No wonder you have to call everybody else the same when their opinions might differ from yours. Take your head out of the sand, man.

Obama’s understanding of the word “accomplishment” is different from everybody else.

You’re right about the result of Lincolns actions – after freeing the slaves, what then? – of course, we are all left in the dark as to his future plans due to a bullet in the brain. Maybe there would have been no need for the freedom movement of the 60s…we’ll never know that answer….

…hot air rises…

You hit it on the head icare, it seems whenever the population of any nation (throughout history) has 50% or more of their members, allocating for one thing or person – is it any wonder we’re stuck with the ultra-Liberal Obama

I’ve heard him speak on about 3 debates and I just didn’t feel that way about him.  Part of the problem is during the debates he is infrequently asked questions compared to the front runners, even on Fox last night. He’s only had a few interviews on Fox too.
I guess he needs to push for more air time so people can see his stand on various issues. Romney and Gingrich I don’t feel they are strong enough to beat obama, though Gingrich does have good responses and opinions.
I will do more research on Santorum, especially on his take for Bill 1867 which now only needs yah or nay by obama.  I’m just amazed why most in congress and the senate passed it. We will become a communist state and lose our Constitutional Rights.

I disagree with Obama, in my book he’s NO.1. The best BSer in history!

i am poor and i don’t need your help left. leave my health care alone moron.

Obama is the greatest President we’ve ever had.

Maybe if he were the ONLY President we’ve ever had.  So far, EVERYTHING he’s done proves him to be the worst President We’ve ever had.  You have now been educated.

Let’s see… Obama ACTUALLY caught and killed Bin Ladin.  W. ACTUALLY gave up on looking for him and started wars based on oil interests.  W. went after the wrong country after 911 and lied about WMD’s.  Katrina was a disaster and so was the clean-up effort.  Bush was a puppet used by Cheney and Karl Rove only because of his name and the fact that he is an idiot.  You are living in a dream world.   

Class?  Seriously?  The president who announces going to war with a country and then says, “Now watch this shot” on a golf course.  You are an idiot. 

That is hilarious.  I am making MYSELF look stupid?  On this page… I am Einstein.  I am the only person who has common sense and knows what I am talking about.  Everyone here is a close-minded, fear-monger.   

I post it because you all need to know the truth.  For some reason you are all in denial about being stupid,  Probably because you listen to Glenn Beck.  If you want to know what’s really going on in the world… watch MSNBC… not FOX! 

If you weren’t an idiot… you would see that I am the one policing and acknowledging the idiots.  You are entitled to an opinion.  I am also entitled to mine.  Mine is… that you are an idiot.  I wish I could be ignorant and naive and brainwashed like you all.  Life would be easier.  It is a burden knowing right from wrong.  I deal with it the best I can.  I envy you and your little, conservative world filled with hate and guns.

The Republicans have NO chance of winning.  Romney is the only one who has a little sense, but he is hated for being a Mormon.  He should have lied long ago and said he found Jesus.  He’d be the sure frontrunner.  A person’s religious belief has nothing to do with how they will act as president.  If I had my wish… our next president would be an atheist.  I, myself, am not an atheist, but I do know that you can’t trust a Christian.

this kenyan born muslim swine has done more to destroy our country, our faith, our economy, our patriotism and the lives of millions of babies then every president in history combined! he canceled national prayer day while holding a muslim prayer day at the whitehouse! he has spent more money than every president combined! he has brought racism back 30 years! he has disrespected every American ally while ass licking every muslim enemy! today he complained about the republican candidates saying “i am not big on digging into someones past”! this fro the first president to EVER spend 2 million dollars to lock his past history away from everyone! my opinion is that ANYONE holding public office should have their entire past reviewed! we should know beforehand if they were wife beaters, tax cheats, muslims, not born in this country… all pertinent information don’t you agree? now this pig wants a law passed so that no ID is needed to vote? how else can voter fraud run rampant enough to get him elected again? they found that he and hilary never had enough electoral votes in Indiana to even be eligible to run in the first place so why is this traitor muslim swine still in office?

Yeah… I’m sure the slaves would have loved to “hang on” for a unknown plan to be developed at some point.  If you were a SLAVE… would you be patient like that???  If I were in prison for life and a guard said to me, “I found a way out for you… you’ll be broke and have no job, but you can leave now and be free.  Or you can wait for a sllightly better plan later”.  I wouldn’t hesitate for a second and neither would you.

this pig even accepted the Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing! what a POS loser!

That is quite the fiction story.  Healthcare for those who DESERVE and WANT it?  Who doesn’t deserve or want healthcare???   What war was actually just???  Obama has been cleaning up W’s mess for three years.  More guns mean more violence and more innocent people killed.  Saying that Liberals only care about money and power is pure insanity.  Who do all the lobbyists work for?  Republicans.  Who gets all the big business campaign funds?  Republicans.  Why?  Because they will do anything for money.

This from the person that claims that the Democrats use dirty tricks to pass bills.  HA!  How does it feel to be a supporter for a party (the party of NO!) that would rather watch America go down the drain than to agree with Obama on any topic?  You should be ashamed. 

It is funny that you people consider your opinions serious.  Seriously ridiculous, perhaps.  You all can get together an talk nonsense that you heard on FOX, but don’t try debating a person of intellect without learning the facts and doing some research on your own.  Seriously!

Not because you speak the “truth”.  Because you think what you are speaking IS the truth.  Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.  Try opneing your mind… just a hair… and learn something.

Sure.  Their reigns of terror were short-lived compared to Conservative Christians.  Who knows what the ultimate consequences of their actions will be.

That is going a bit far.  He’s not the best.  He has done a decent job with what he was dealt.  His second term will truly show what he can accomplish.

Perhaps… with people who can’t read.

That is poetically stupid.  Obama is the best man for the job right now.  If the Republicans would get out of the way he could accomplish great things and get America back on track.

IdiotPolice, thanks for proving your COMPLETE and UTTER idiocy, yet again.  Let me make some corrections for you.  The announcement of going to war and the statement “Now watch this shot” on the golf course were actually two totally different incidents that happened on two totally different occasions.  Though I know that that documented FACT is too difficult for the fat slob Michael Moore loving idiot that you are.  You do realize that Fahrenheit 9/11 is filled with NOTHING but outright LIEs, don’t you?  Try a different source.  Grimm’s Fairy Tales are more accurate.

Oh, here’s another documented FACT for you.  Barack Hussein Obama played more golf in his first 2 years than Bush played in ALL 8 of his years.  Documented even by the most liberal of news sources, including both MSNBC and Huffington Post.

You have now been educated, idiot.

Oh, and by the way.  You are an idiot.  Good bye.

IdiotPolice, thanks for proving your COMPLETE and UTTER idiocy, yet again.  Let me make some corrections for you.  The announcement of going to war and the statement “Now watch this shot” on the golf course were actually two totally different incidents that happened on two totally different occasions.  Though I know that that documented FACT is too difficult for the fat slob Michael Moore loving idiot that you are.  You do realize that Fahrenheit 9/11 is filled with NOTHING but outright LIEs, don’t you?  Try a different source.  Grimm’s Fairy Tales are more accurate.

Oh, here’s another documented FACT for you.  Barack Hussein Obama played more golf in his first 2 years than Bush played in ALL 8 of his years.  Documented even by the most liberal of news sources, including both MSNBC and Huffington Post.

You have now been educated, idiot.

Oh, and by the way.  You are an idiot.  Good bye.

Let’s see… Obama caught and killed bin Laden thanks ONLY to W.’s policies, W. NEVER ONCE gave up looking for Obama and could care less about another country’s oil.  W. went after the right country after 9/11, which was Afghanistan, and said what EVERY OTHER country on the ENTIRE planet, including France, Germany, Russia, and China, was saying about WMD.  If W. lied about WMDs, the ENTIRE globe, that is EVERY SINGLE nation on the planet lied about them, as well.  The intelligence did NOT come from W.  The intelligence for WMDs came from the ENTIRE global community, including EVERY single one of the largest nations on the globe, which is a list that even includes some of our biggest historical enemies.  Katrina was a disaster and the clean-up effort could have been better if the Governor of Louisiana actually allowed FEMA to enter when FEMA wanted to.  Bush was NEVER a puppet and NEVER will be.  Furthermore, Bush was NEVER an idiot.  You are living in an idiot delusion.

Oh, and by the way.  You are still an idiot of the highest level.

Let’s see… Obama caught and killed bin Laden thanks ONLY to W.’s policies, W. NEVER ONCE gave up looking for Obama and could care less about another country’s oil.  W. went after the right country after 9/11, which was Afghanistan, and said what EVERY OTHER country on the ENTIRE planet, including France, Germany, Russia, and China, was saying about WMD.  If W. lied about WMDs, the ENTIRE globe, that is EVERY SINGLE nation on the planet lied about them, as well.  The intelligence did NOT come from W.  The intelligence for WMDs came from the ENTIRE global community, including EVERY single one of the largest nations on the globe, which is a list that even includes some of our biggest historical enemies.  Katrina was a disaster and the clean-up effort could have been better if the Governor of Louisiana actually allowed FEMA to enter when FEMA wanted to.  Bush was NEVER a puppet and NEVER will be.  Furthermore, Bush was NEVER an idiot.  You are living in an idiot delusion.

Oh, and by the way.  You are still an idiot of the highest level.

That is ignorantly retarded.  Obama is the worst possible man for the job right now.  If the Democrats would get out of the way and let the Conservative Republicans, emphasis on Conservative, take over, they could accomplish great things and get America back on track.

That is going to far.  Obama is without a doubt the worst ever.  He has done NOTHING but destroy this country.  His second term will show just how much he can destroy this country.

Keep ‘em comin’, idiot.  I can correct your misinformation all night long here.

Oh, and by the way.  You are still an idiot.  LOL

Sure.  Their reigns of terror were short-lived compared to Liberal Democrats.  Who knows how bad it would be now if Conservative Christians didn’t even exist.

Not because you speak the “truth,” idiotpolice.  Because you think what you are speaking is the truth.  Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, such as yours idiotpolice.  Try opening your mind… just a hair… and actually learn something.

It is funny that you people consider your opinions serious.  Seriously ridiculous, most definitely.  You all can get together and talk utter nonsense and lies you heard on MSNBC, but don’t try debating a person of intellect, such as a right wing Conservative, without learning the facts and doing some research on your own.  Seriously!

This from the person who claims that Conservatives use dirty tricks to pass bills.  HA!  How does it feel to be a supporter for a party (the party of NO!) that would watch America go down the drain than to agree with the Conservatives on any topic?  You should be ashamed.

IdiotPolice, I shall be serious for a moment here to give you some documented facts, okay, so pay attention.  The Democrats actually shut ALL of the Republicans out of Congress to get his failed trillion dollar stimulus passed.  He basically did the same to pass his failed Obamacare.  The ONLY party actually coming up with any solutions that would actually work is the Republican Party.  You know what the Democrats are saying.  Oh, yeah.  That’s right.  No.  The Republicans had a plan to reform Social Security way back in Bush’s first term.  It would have definitely worked to.  What happened?  Oh, yeah.  The Democrats yelled, for the entire world to hear, NO!!!

That is quite the fiction story.  Literally MILLIONS didn’t want healthcare.  In fact, most polls show that once Obama passed his Obamacare, MILLIONS of the uninsured quite literally said, “We do NOT want it.”  Documented fact there.  You might want to look into it.

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were just.  They ousted evil regimes which killed, tortured, mutilated, and raped their own people for decades just for the fun of it.  Both the Iraqis AND the Afghanis begged the US to invade to oust Hussein and the Taliban.  Not only that, but W. actually got approval of Congress to invade.  All these reasons make the wars just.  Obama, on the other hand, started bombing Libya without even consenting Congress.  This fact, alone, makes Obama’s actions unjust.  Let’s move to your next lies, shall we.

Obama has NOT been cleaning up W.’s mess because W. didn’t really have a mess in the first place.  Democrats who took over Congress in 2006 did.  Obama has been making that mess even bigger.

More guns mean LESS violence and LESS innocent people killed as proven by EVERY SINGLE study regarding gun control.  You do realize that it has been categorically proven that fewer guns lead to more violence, don’t you?  You see, criminals don’t care about laws.  Criminals will ALWAYS have guns.  If innocent people have guns, as well, fewer innocent people will die for the PROVEN fact that criminals generally don’t go after armed civilians.

Saying that Liberals only care about money and power is pure brilliance.  Who do all the lobbyists work for?  LIBERALS, whether those LIBERALS be LIBERAL Democrats or LIBERAL Republicans.  Who gets all the big business campaign funds?  Republicans.  Well, what do you know?  You actually got one right.  However, it’s not a bad thing that big business campaign funds go to Republicans seeing as how ALL businesses, BOTH big AND small ones, ALWAYS perform better under Republicans.  Businesses will, with ONLY a few exceptions, support ONLY those candidates they believe they will perform better under.  Try again.  That’s what?  0.5 out of 10 in this one post.  You aren’t doing well here, are you?

The Republicans have EVERY chance at winning if Obama keeps doing what he’s doing.  Romney is one of several who have a chance.  Here you get another one right, IdiotPolice.  Will wonders never cease?  Romney is hated for being a Mormon.  However, he, being a Mormon, has ALREADY found Jesus.  A person’s religious beliefs influences EVERY part of his being.  If I had my wish, our next President would be a Christian.  I, myself, am a Christian, and we all know that you can, with very, very few exceptions, always trust a Christian.

If you weren’t an idiot, you would see that I am the one policing and acknowledging the IdiotPolice.  You are entitled to your opinion.  I am entitled to mine, which is that IdiotPolice’s opinion is worth no more than the crap out of my dog’s rear end.  I wish I could be ignorant and naive and brainwashed like IdiotPolice.  Life would be easier.  It is a burden knowing the idiocy of IdiotPolice.  I deal with it the best I can.  I envy you and your little, Liberal world filled with hate and cowards.

I post it because you need to know the truth.  For some reason, you, IdiotPolice, are in denial about being stupid.  Probably because you listen to Chris Mathews or Keith Olbermann.  If you want to know what’s really going on in the world, watch FOX, NOT MSNBC.  MSNBC makes you and IdiotPolice nutcase.

That is hilarious.  TheIdiotPolice makes himself look stupid with each and every passing post.  On this page, everyone else is Einstein.  Everyone else has common sense and knows what they are talking about.  TheIdiotPolice is a close-minded fear-monger.

Oh, by the way, IdiotPolice.  Have I mentioned, yet, that you are an idiot.  LOL.

having fun.

Oh, lots.  I guess I’ve been reading too many of SoThere’s posts toward strtlk/mtclayboy.  Probably not as creative as him.  But this sort of confrontation is actually quite fun.  It’s fun confronting IdiotPolice’s lies with facts, you know.

Wow!  You really are a FOX news zombie.  Try watching CNN for once.  I am not a Michael Moore fan nor have I seen Fahrenheit 911.  Bush DID dismantle the task force set up to find Bin Laden.  That is a FACT.  Bush lied about Tony Blair telling him about WMD’s and made up the others as well to cover his ass for invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.  Oh yeah… 9/11 wouldn’t have even happened if Bush would have done his job and listened to the intel supplied by Clinton’s people about an imminent attack using planes.  That is a FACT.  The more Christian a person claims to be… the higher the chance that they lie, steal, cheat on their spouse, hate people for being different, and molest children.  They think that they can do whatever they want as long as they ask for forgiveness from a make-believe deity that`they learned about in a fictitious book.  Put me in front of four rooms… one full of atheists… one full of muslims… one full of homosexuals… and one full of Christians.  The only one that is truly dangerous is the one with a cross on the door. 

Quite the contrary.  Everyone seems to care what I think.  That is why I get a response from everybody… including you.

is it just me or everytime some one like these morons post here i think of this sound. http://youtu.be/KAWoP1kncRE

You DO realize that the US Constitution was written over two hundred years ago by a group of mostly atheists, don’t you?  Things change… minds change.  Intelligent people learn from their mistakes. 

Wow!  You really are an MSNBC and Media Matters lying zombie.  Try watching FOX News or Glenn Beck for once.  You are obviously a Michael Moore fan and likely make love to Fahrenheit 911 on a nightly basis.  Bush did NOT dismantle the task force set up to find bin Laden.  That is a FACT.  Bush NEVER lied about Tony Blair telling him about WMDs and NEVER made up the others to cover his ass for invading a country that had EVERYTHING to do with supporting terrorist groups like Al Queda.  NOTHING was made up.  The actual paper trail proves it.  Oh yeah.  9/11 would have still happened because it was Clinton, NOT Bush, who destroyed our chances of taking out bin Laden early on.  It was Clinton who dismantled our defenses and intelligence network.  Clinton and his people took the intel supplied to them and trashed it.  That is a documented FACT.  The more Christian a person claims to be, the higher the chance that they are honest, don’t steal, remain loyal to their spouse, love people for being different, and do NOT molest children.  They know that they have a freedom to choose as long as that freedom doesn’t fly in the face of God and God’s laws, who is a REAL deity that they learned about in a book of historical FACT.  Put me in front of four rooms… one full of atheists… one full of muslims… one full of homosexuals… and one full of Christians.  The ONLY one that is truly dangerous is the one with absolutely NOTHING on the door.  For your information, that would be atheists who are responsible for the deaths of well over 200 MILLION people this century.  You know how many millions died at the hands of Christianity in the last 1000 years.  NOT even a million.  Documented FACT.  Look it up.  Oh, and FYI, those Muslim extremists can be quite dangerous, as well, seeing as how they, too, killed more people than Christians have in the last century.

Funny how the actual facts which are actually documented prove your outright LIEs wrong, isn’t it.

Oh, by the way.  You are still an idiot.

Ooh.  This is fun.  Keep your outright lies comin’, IdiotPolice.  How many more can I disprove?

You have been on this thread longer than you should be with

YOUR idiotic comments.  It’s time to say goodbye.  We won’t

miss you.  Sorry, if I’ve hurt your feelings.

dad,  In reply to your last statement, in a word: Yep.

You DO realize that the US Constitution was written over two hundred years ago by a group of mostly Christians, don’t you?  Here’s a link just to prove it to you.  Look at the percentages at the top.

http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html
Well, will you look at that.  Nearly 55% of our founding fathers were Episcopalian/Anglican.  Try again with another lie, okay, IdiotPolice.

Things change.  Minds Change.  However, the Constitution NEVER changes, at least not without going through a proper Amendment process.  Intelligent people learn from their mistakes.  

Quite the contrary.  NOBODY cares what you think.  The ONLY reason you get a response is because you are one of the dimmest morons on the planet.

Just saying you’ve disproved something doesn’t make it reality.  Try reading this article on Bush’s team disbanding the CIA task force set up to find Bin Laden.  You have been misinformed.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washington/04intel.html

As for the rest of your nonsense… the one point that I got especially hung up on was, “Christians… love people for being different”.  Can you say that with a straight face?!  You are saying that you have nothing against homosexuals… muslims… atheists… mexicans… mormons… jews… liberals???  Christians, in fact, HATE people for being different.  That is why they go around trying to force their opinions on everyone and save everyone’s souls.  Every religion has an equal right to be ridiculous.  Christians are the only ones that try to convert everyone.  You should watch the movie “Religulous”.  Both entertaining and accurate.  ALL religions are nonsense and made-up and stolen from eachother.  That is a FACT.  You know why… because they cannot be proven to be true.  Faith is not a reason to believe in something.  It is an excuse to choose to believe in something for whatever personal reason you might have.  There is a reason why the more educated you are… the less likely you will be a conservative or religious.  That, my fine-feathered friend, is a FACT.  Look it up. 

O.M.A.,  Guess TheIdiot forgot about all the money the unions funnel into the

Dems coffers. 

You found something that claims 55% were Episcopalian and you use that as an argument.  So you are content with 45% of the founding fathers disagreeing with you???  Yet you want to uphold every single word they wrote???  That makes sense.

Are you in charge here?   I’m sorry to be getting under your skin by voicing my opinion in a free country.  Is this still a free country?  Isn’t that what you all preach?  The Christian hypocrisy lives on.

O.M.A.,  Well, TheIdiot did it again.  Made me laugh.  Watch MSNBC for the

truth?   Oh yeah!  Guess that’s why their ratings are so high and Fox’s are so

low?   (I’m smiling.)

That makes no sense.  You can do better than that, can’t you.

The Republicans haven’t provided any answers to any problems.  They say no and CLAIM to have solutions.  Not one has surfaced.

Oh, great.  An article from the New York Times that only mentions half the truth.  Come back when you come with a relevant article that mentions the FULL truth please.

Of course, I can say that with a straight face.  I am a Christian, and I love people for being different.  Differences are what make people unique.  I have NOTHING against homosexuals, muslims, atheists, mexicans, mormons (who actually ARE Christians by the way), Jews ( Why would I have ANYTHING against them?  There’d be no Christians without Jews), liberals, at least not until they make up stories and lies like you.  Christians, in FACT, LOVE people for being different.  That is why they do NOT go around trying to force their opinions on everyone unless asked to do so by that other party.  Every religion has as equal right to be religious.  Christians are the ONLY ones who don’t try to convert everyone.  You should quit watching movies made just to attack Christianity, such as Religulous.  You do realize that that movie if filled with NOTHING but lies, don’t you, making it neither entertaining nor accurate.  NOTHING in the movie Religulous is honest or accurate.  Christianity is NOT nonsense and NOT made up and NOT stole from another faith.  That is a DOCUMENTED FACT.  You know why.  Because it has been proven to be true 2000 years ago by someone by the name of Jesus Christ.  Faith is ALWAYS a reason to believe in something bigger than yourself.  It’s an excuse to believe in a being greater than you and me.  There is a reason why the more educated you are, the MORE likely you will be a Conservative or religious.  You want me to list off for you a list of major scientists in the past who were, in FACT, religious Christians?  Here’s a few.  Maybe you’ve heard of them.  Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, Pascal,…  I could go on and on listing name after name of famous mathematicians and scientists who were also religious Christians.  I can list dozens of MAJOR educated and scientific names of the past who were religious Christians, and that’s just off the top of my head.  Just think how many I can list if I did a real search.  That, my idiotic dodo of a friend, is a DOCUMENTED FACT.  Look it up.

The Republicans provided a solution to the whole health care problem in Bush’s first term.  The Democrats said “Heck NO” and provided not a single solution since.  Try another lie, idiot.

Nope.  No one’s in charge here.  You’re not getting under anyone’s skin.  You’re just voicing an opinion that flies in the face of logic.  The Liberal hypocrisy lives on.

Sir (or M’am as the case may be), Your comments are

not very factual and you’re just taking up space here.

You seem to get a real satisfaction in calling people

names, don’t you?

Please do us all a favor and put your comments where

”the sun don’t shine.”   It would be appreciated. 

Apparently, you were too dimwitted to even check out the link I provided.  Here, let me break it down for you.

Religious Affiliation
of U.S. Founding Fathers# of
Founding
Fathers% ofFoundingFathersEpiscopalian/Anglican8854.7%Presbyterian3018.6%Congregationalist2716.8%Quaker74.3%Dutch Reformed/German Reformed63.7%Lutheran53.1%Catholic31.9%Huguenot31.9%Unitarian31.9%Methodist21.2%Calvinist10.6%TOTAL204 
Well, will you look at that?  They were ALL Christians as a matter of fact.  Try lying again there, idiot.

Well, when Fox’s ratings beat the top 3 competitors combined, you just have to laugh, right.  LOL

Of course it doesn’t make sense to you.  You are an idiot liberal who doesn’t understand FACTs.

He’s a flaming liberal.  What do you expect?  I’m certainly not going to claim Republicans aren’t the problem here because certain Republicans have certainly not helped the situation.  The more liberal ones that is.  If we get back to our conservative roots, we can solve our problems and get our economy thriving again.

Religulous actually attacks ALL religion, not just Christianity.  I should have known that you would disgard any article that proves you wrong just because Rupert Murdoch doesn’t own it.  Are you a big fan of his as well?  Of course you are… you watch FOX news.  ; )   
Did you just say that Christianity was proven to be true by Jesus Christ???  And that is a documented fact???  If you couldn’t use the Bible as the proven document… which you can’t because it isn’t… what would you use???  No other document in the world mentions Jesus as anything other than a man that lived at some point in time.  Most documents from that time don’t mention him at all.  I never said that there aren’t religious scientists in the history of the world.  I said that they are far outnumbered by the well-educated people who don’t believe in Jesus as a saviour.  That study has been done many times.  Did you know that the people in “blue states” are more educated and less religous than those in “red states”.  That is a FACT and easy to look up the statistics. 
So you are ok with gay marriage, right?  If not, then you have something against homosexuals.  You would also be against personal freedoms and the pursuit of happiness. Correct???

You are free to go elsewhere if you choose.  That is your right as an American.  God Bless.

Idiotpolice is just a troll.

Thanks, Charlie Sheen.

You know what “flies in the face of logic”?  Creationism.  Since you like logic so much… you must believe in Evolution, correct? 

You know what “flies in the face of logic”?  Evolution, since evolution has NEVER EVER been proven.  Since you don’t seem to like logic at all, you must not like Creationism, which, unlike Evolution, can actually be tested.

look at the moron how made the movie i realy have hard time seeing the idiot picking up a Bible to learn what we are. like all on the left they just get their talking points from media matters.

I know.  I thought I might have fun with him.  You don’t think I really expect anything to happen with him thanks to my banter, do you?  Trolls like this come and go.

Try reading this… and then claim it to be ALL LIES as usual.  The founding fathers were mainly Deists who believed in a “creator” who was not the God of the Bible.

http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html

Clever.  You clearly don’t understand syntax or have the sense of humor of a five year old.  The reason is self-evident.

How do you get through the day without walking into walls?  That statement makes me think you have some sort of disability.  By stating that Evolution hasn’t been proven makes every other statement you’ve made null and void.  The statement that Creationism can be tested makes you sound insane or retarded.  If you are retarded… I am sorry.  You should have mentioned that earlier. 

The Republicans answer to healthcare was to make it too expensive for the working poor to afford.  That is not an answer.

Religulous attacked primarily Christianity.  Nope.  I don’t disregard any articles that prove me wrong.  I disregard those articles full of fiction and half truths, such as that New York Times article.  There is a major distinction there, idiot.  Yes, I said that, and I meant that.  If I couldn’t use the Bible as the proven document, which I CAN because it IS, than I would take the words of the vast majority of actual working Archaeologists and Historians who have actually worked in the field and wrote down the evidence in literally hundreds of historic works.  Many archaeological findings in the mideast, specifically dated from the Roman Era, document Jesus as more than just a man.  Most documents from that time and place DO actually document him quite constantly. In actual FACT, the well-educated who happen to be religious outnumber the well educated who are not religious by a margin of at least 5 to 1.  That study has been done many times.  Try another lie there, okay, idiot.  Did you know that those same studies show that people in the red states are more caring and give more than those in the blue states, and that those in blue states are ONLY marginally more educated.  The same studies prove also that those in the north east and west are complete morons such as yourself.  That is a DOCUMENTED FACT and easy to look up through a simple Google search.  Please, I’ve read that study several years ago when I was actually still in school, son.  Means NOTHING to me because I know the FULL study.

Whether I am ok with gay marriage or not does NOT and NEVER will matter.  Even IF I was not ok with gay marrige, it does NOT mean, in ANY way, that I have something against homosexuals.  It ONLY would mean I would have something against gay marriage.  Gay marriage and homosexuals are two totally different ideals ENTIRELY.  Nice of you to skirt around there, idiot.  It also would NOT mean I would be against personal freedoms and the pursuit of happiness.  Quite the contrary, in fact.  Can you, at least, try.

Are you a highschool graduate?  You sound like a idiot.  Learn to write clearly and spell or find a special school that can help you.

Nope.  Dead wrong yet again.  The Republican answer was to privatize it.  This, in actual FACT, would make it LESS expensive.  Try again.

How do you get through the day without walking into walls?  That statement makes me think you have some sort of disability.  By stating that Creationism cannot be tested makes EVERY other statement you’ve made null and void.  The statement that Evolution has been proven makes you sound insane or retarded.  If you are retarded, I can’t really be sorry.  You are ONLY a liberal, after all, and liberals do tend to be retarded.

Are you an elementary school dropout?  You sound like an idiot.  Learn to write clearly and spell or find a special school that is willing to take in COMPLETE and UTTER fools.  Seriously, how can you NOT understand me?  Everyone else seems to understand me just fine.

It must be nice being surrounded by fellow ignorance.

I think that would be as close to heaven as anyone can get.

Well, considering that that site goes AGAINST ALL of the documented evidence, it IS ALL lies.  I could count ALL our founding fathers who were actually Deists on just one hand.  NO MORE than 4 of them were.  Those who were were, in FACT, CHRISTIAN Deists.  ALL documented FACT, documented by their own writings which prove it.  Try again with more baseless lies from your liberally biased, history revising sources, please.

It must be nice being the biggest ignoramus on the planet.  Must be lonely up there.

Idiot.  You obviously don’t even know what syntax means or even have the sense of humor of a 2 year old.  The reason is all to obvious.

“Millions of innocent men, women and children,
since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and
imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the
world fools and the other half hypocrites” –Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia,
1782.

“And the day will come when the mystical
generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin
will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of
Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these
United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us
the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human
errors.” —Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

Any responses??? 

Fortunately I suuround myself with educated, good-hearted people who don’t spew nonsense.

Oh, boy, now we’re in a quoting war.  Yippee.  ”To the corruptions of Christianity, I am indeed opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others; ascribing to himself every human excellence, and believing he never claimed any other.” – Thomas Jefferson 
in 1803 to the Universalist physician Benjamin Rush.

Notice where Jefferson said, and I quote, “I am a Christian… sincerely attached to his (Jesus’s) doctrines, in preference to all others;”  Boy, will you look at that.  Jefferson admitted to being a Christian.  Try again, son.

Oh, and here’s a little tidbit he wrote requesting a Unitarian Preacher in Maine in 1825.
“I am anxious to see the doctrine of one god commenced in our state. But the population of my neighborhood is too slender, and is too much divided into other sects to maintain any one preacher well. I must therefore be contented to be an Unitarian by myself, altho I know there are many around me who would become so, if once they could hear the questions fairly stated.”

Funny how these direct quotes straight from Thomas Jefferson disprove your claim, huh?

I actually wasn’t responding to you.  I was responding to an illiterate follower of yours.  You are very defensive.  I can tell you that I am a college graduate that works with the mentally ill.. for 12 years now.  I actually do something to help my fellow man.  Can you make the same claim?

Unfortunately, you surround yourself with un-educated, ignorant, cold-hearted people who spew NOTHING but nonsense.  Maybe if you hung around people like Glenn Beck, some REAL intelligence might rub onto you.

I don’t care.  You are even more illiterates than anybody and EVERYBODY else here, with the exception of the others of your kind who just love to troll these boards.  I counted half a dozen grammatical errors in your post there alone.  Talk about being illiterate.

Oh, so you work with your own kind there?  That explains why you are such a massive idiot.

“Although Jefferson believed in a Creator, his concept of it resembled that of
the god of deism (the term “Nature’s God” used by deists of the time). With his
scientific bent, Jefferson sought to organize his thoughts on religion. He
rejected the superstitions and mysticism of Christianity and even went so far as
to edit the gospels, removing the miracles and mysticism of Jesus (i.e.The Jefferson
Bible) leaving only what he deemed the correct moral philosophy of
Jesus”. – an excerpt from Jefferson’s biography.

You choose to misinterpret that which you don’t want to see.  Jefferson did NOT believe in JESUS… whether or not he once claimed to be a Christian. 

Glenn Beck is a complete phoney… a fraud.  You are a mindless follower that helps make him rich.

Jefferson’s concept of the Creator resembled that of the Christian God.  That is what made him a CHRISTIAN Deist.  The quotes I’ve provided prove that very point.

You avoided the question.  What do you do to help your fellow man?  Anything? 

Probably more than you seeing as I am a Christian and you aren’t.  I give to those in need, for instance, something you liberals are proven NOT to do.

Again… you ignore the obvious and barrel on.  His disbelief in Jesus (the foundation of your beliefs) is the point. 

TheIdiotPolice is a complete phony.  A fraud.  IdiotPolice is a mindless follower of the left to promote left leaning causes.

I take that as a NO.  Without liberals the entitlement programs would be long gone and the poor would go hungry and die off.

Again, you ignore the obvious and barrel on.  Jefferson’s BELIEF in Jesus is the point.  The quotes I provided prove beyond ANY and ALL doubt that Jefferson believed in Jesus.  Read them, please.

You could try having an original thought… instead of taking mine and changing pronouns.

Nope.  Wrong again.  Without liberals, the entitlement programs would be long gone, which would be a GOOD thing, and the poor would be fed and live a nice long life thanks to the proven to be more caring and generous conservatives.  Try another lie, idiot.

How can ALL doubt be removed when all of my quotes state the opposite and claim Jesus as mysticism.  You are blinded by your own ignorance.

Why?  What’s the fun in that?  You are the proven idiot here, not me.  I’m not the one making ridiculous statements like “Jefferson didn’t believe in Jesus,” when Jefferson’s own statements prove the contrary.

It amazes me how brainwashed you are.  You have the small town mentality that prevents any kind of progress. 

Nope.  Wrong again.  Your quotes don’t state the opposite.  Your quotes are out of context.  There is a major difference.  Mine aren’t however, because they fit EVERYTHING Jefferson though.  YOU are blinded by your ignorance and rampant need to attack Christians.

So you didn’t read mine then.  It is clearly stated.

“And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin
will be classed with the fable of the generation… ”

Is that to hard to comprehend???

It amazes me how brainwashed you idiot liberals are.  You have the small town mentality that prevents any real progress.  You are a mental midget who can’t think logically.  You have to make up lies and state outright fallacious claims that have been disproven time and time again by actual intellectuals and actual documented records.  Please.  Jefferson didn’t believe in Jesus?  Give me a break.  That might fly if his own statements didn’t prove otherwise.

Conveniently (for you) ALL of my quotes are out of context and yours are not?
This information is based on… ?

I have never lived in a small town, but I visit them for work frequently.  What I see there is saddening.   Uneducated… poor people clinging to religion because that is all they have left.

It is obviously too hard for you to comprehend.  You know what context is, at least, don’t you?  Do you even know what the FULL quote is.  Here is the FULL quote for you.

“The truth is that the greatest enemies to the doctrines of Jesus are those calling themselves the expositors of them, who have perverted them for the structure of a system of fancy absolutely incomprehensible, and without any foundation in his genuine words. And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors.”
This tells us that Jefferson DID believe in Jesus.  He believed EVERYTHING about Jesus.  He simply hated the perversion put on him by enemies of Jesus’s doctrine.  Strangely, that would be YOU.  Nice of you to take Jefferson’s words out of context.  You idiot liberals are good at that you know.  Try again.

This information is based on ALL of Jefferson’s thoughts put together, and NOT just pieces taken from an Atheist website whose sole agenda is to attack Christians.

You mean the educated, middle class people clinging to religion because religion actually makes sense.  Those are usually what I see in small towns.  I usually see uneducated, poor people in big cities like New York.  The OWS ring any bells.  They ARE your crowd, after all.

Perhaps it is the big words that are slowing you down.  What he is saying is that the “mystical generation of Jesus” (those who believe him as the son of God, walking on water, etc…) are the corruptors of his genuine doctrines.  That means people like you. 

I think the OWS protestors are idiots.  Not my crowd.  Religion is what poor people cling to because they want to believe that their miserable lives have some greater meaning and all will be put right in heaven.  That is it.  No other reason.

Nope.  Wrong again.  Read the beginning and the ending.  Maybe you’ll get it eventually.  Apparently, you cannot comprehend Jefferson’s words.  Especially where he says, “But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors.”  I put emphasis on the primitive and genuine doctrines line concerning Jesus.  You know. What Jesus was about?  Can you not comprehend that.

Again, a big fat F on your part.  I’ll give you half here, though.  Religion is what people take in because it provides meaning.  It also helps to describe how we came to be.  It also helps to aid those in need.  It is beneficial to society because religion actually builds society up.

Anyway, IdiotPolice, it’s been fun proving you to be the imbecile that you are.  But I think I’ll go now and speak with those who actually are intelligent and wouldn’t make foolish claims such as, “Most of our founding fathers were Atheists,” which is a proven lie proven by the very writings of our founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson included.

Hay, did you know Benjamin Franklin actually called for Christian prayers before each and EVERY assembly at the start of each and EVERY business day, as well.  He, too, was a CHRISTIAN Deist whose concept of the Creator was actually the Christian God, as well, just like Thomas Jefferson.  Please.  I’ve done more than enough research on our founding fathers to know where they stood.  All you do is get half a quote from an Atheist website and call it good.  I’ve read actual letters written by our founding fathers. I’ve read documents stating exactly what they believe, using their own words to prove it.  You really have to try harder there.

Anyway, good bye.  Have fun living in your idiot delusion.  I’m off.  I don’t want your idiocy to some how rub off on me.

Well, Ryan, I think I had enough fun with him.  I’ll let other have a crack now.  Let’s wait and see who the next liberal moron will be, okay.  LOL

Religion is the basis of most wars.  That cannot be denied.

I should know better than to have a rational argument with an irrational peron.
I assume that you never went to or finished college and live in the south.  Probably
Alabama, Arkansas or maybe Texas.  That is not entirely your fault.  Certainly set in your ways and will hopefully learn the truth someday.  Maybe not.  I couldn’t care less.  If you must vote Republican… at least vote for Romney.  He won’t win, but nothing would be worse than Newt.  Don’t believe everything said on FOX as if it were gospel.  There is an agenda behind it all.  Try to make the world a better place.  Don’t be afraid of change.  Things aren’t as bad as they seem.  I bid you all farewell.  For those of you who have been waiting for those words… Merry Christmas.  ; ) 

You are clearly too stupid to be an atheist.  Please stay a Christian.

Feel better.  I’ll pray for you.  ; )

Before I leave you for good, IdiotPolice, I will address your lie here and leave you with another link.

Politics is the basis for most wars, NOT religion.  I could list ALL religious based wars in the last 1000 years on NO MORE THAN 2 hands.  That includes ALL of the Crusades.  However, I would need at least 4 or 5 pairs of hands, more even, to list ALL the wars in the last 500 years that had absolutely NOTHING to do with religion whatsoever.  That CANNOT be denied because that has been documented by ACTUAL historians in literally thousands of historical texts over the last thousand years.  So, again, another outright LIE on your part.  As a matter of fact, politics, want for power and land, and family feuds are the basis for more wars than religion.  Documented FACT.  Look into it.

I will not address the utter ignorance of the rest of your post and leave you with a link explaining about the myth of the so-called “Jefferson Bible” and how it is NOTHING of what you actually think it is.  Maybe, just maybe, you’ll learn something for once, but I doubt it.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=14285 

Boy, will you look at that.  IdiotPolice proven wrong yet again.  Maybe one of these days IdiotPolice will wake up to reality.  However, I wouldn’t place any bets on it.

IdiotPolice, good bye and good riddance.

Oh, and one more thing.  You are, without a doubt, the king of the idiots.  Congrats King Idiot.

http://www.evilbible.com/christians_are_hypocrites.htm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LOL

Good bye.  Hope you come to your senses soon.  I will not respond again.

Sorry about that One Man Army…one idiot was enough for one day,thankyou.
Delusions tend to run rampant lately. I don’t know who’s worse Bummer,or the idiot.
63 comments huh? It’s Strlk. I don’t know though, he can speak.Of course he’s absolutely incorrect,in everything he’s saying.
Maybe he can read just not understand what he’s reading .Where do you find these ignorant posters…must be a slow time over on the hate sites.

Lord save me from the ill informed. What a bunch of rubbish. Idiots posting those links are nuts.
I couldn’t even read all the tripe. He must be part of the “get God out of the square crowd.”
I have read Jeffersons words,modern,and old-he lived his life around Christs tenants-he was a Christian…it’s plain. Should have got SoThere in on the fun.

You’re wallowing in it by your ignorant posts. You choose to interpet, out of context,a passage to suit your agenda. It doesn’t wash here.

It’s mtclayboy,vinny.strlk…go back over the posts Army.
He’s giving himself away. Now he’s a college grad,12 yrs. with delusions…he never gives up does he. So of the frasing is quite abit alike.
He’ll unravel,eventually.

You are wrong again. Iowa for instance provides a superior education.You are,and were taught an inferior  education, obviously.
You just can’t get any facts correct,can you? Strlk.

Shuck and jive,Idiot. You’re sinking lower than I thought you’d go,in this amount of time too.

Hopefully everyone will notice that last statement,and unfollow you,Strlk.

I wouldn’t doubt that, barbara.  The fact that he only started posting a few days ago is a dead giveaway.  I think he already has unraveled.  I caught some of his lies already.

Actually, I was simply minding my own business on this particular article about how ‘humble” Obama thinks himself to be, and then I came across a couple posts by TheIdiotPolice.  He was actually here before me.  I just noticed that the account was actually quite recent, so I decided to have a bit of fun.  LOL

I know, right.  Of all the bad links he provides, this one clearly takes the cake.  evilbible.com?  I couldn’t help but laugh when I looked at the page in the link.  I wasn’t originally going to respond to this post, but when I saw the link, I couldn’t help but respond the way I did.  It’s simply a bad link that no serious person would ever use.  Kind of proves what kind of a massive idiot TheIdiotPolice is.

I have one, “you’re an idiot.”

James Aluitiouse Myfundsarelow Jones, June 24th 1875,   in response to Thomas Jefferson.

i geuss that why he called himself the idiot. LOL!

oh look the idiot is talking how pointless. you left are the real bigots.

the bigot the idiot called me stupid. you should see So There post to him. he rip him a new one useing his own words. the guy so much batter at this make morons cry. LOL

like i said these  atheist aholes get their talking points from the lefty atheist morons that never read the teachings of Jesus. they don’t care about anything but puting their own heads up their butts and the idiot just prove are point for us. that the left are the real bigots.

thanks for provening  that your a bigot. why don’t you go back to your weed.

it look like he did.

just call him the idiot it fits him alot better.

the idiot puff the weed one to many times. i am willing to bet that the idiot didn’t do his own homework and got his talking points from Bill the bigot Maher.

Welcome to the party.  Was wondering when you’d show up.

You’re right, there, Ryan.  I shall do that, now, but I already had my bit of fun with him.  I’ll leave it to SoThere from here.

Indeed.  Next he’ll be providing links showing how peaceful Atheists have been in the last 100 years, despite the documented facts that Atheists are responsible for the death of well more than 200 million people this century.  Heck, 50 million people die each year in the world due to the Atheistic belief of abortion.  That’s half a billion this decade.  How many Christians are responsible for murders in the last decade?  I can’t really think of any.  Let me know if you think of one.  Seriously, the Idiot really is a nut job.

even if a guy said he killed in the name of Christ is so anti Christian. under Christ standerds their would be no killing even if we were deffending our self Christ teaching was all about showing love speaking the truth and putting God before yourself. how the left thinks we are evil because we are trying to better are self beats the hell out of me.

That’s the logic of liberal Atheists for you.  They kill several hundred million people and blame it on Christians.  Quite sad, really.  As if we Christians paid them to kill hundreds of millions of innocent people in the last decade.

did you see how So There took what he said and used it aganst him the guy is so smart and knows his stuff. he going to be running around this guy. i would say he would make him look foolish but he allready looks like that.

Oh, I did.  Let’s see what he does from here, shall we.  I am a major fan of Thomas Jefferson, you know.  He believed in the Christian concept of God and even was a fervent follower of Christ.  He was a major supporter of Christianity.  He even requested a Unitarian Christian preacher for his home town since he was the only Unitarian there. He called for the doctrine of one God, that is the Christian God, to commence there.  For someone who wasn’t very supportive of Christianity, he really did spread it a lot.  Heck, even Benjamin Franklin, another self proclaimed Christian Deist, called for Christian prayers before each and every assembly at the beginning of each and every business day.  Franklin’s own statements prove that documented fact.  Geesh, for being non religious, they did literally EVERYTHING in their power to keep the concept of the Christian God alive.  NEVER once did they call for a disbelief in the Christian God.  In fact, they did more to push for the progress of Christianity than most others did in the day.  Yet, according to the Idiot, they were Atheists.  I mean, Jefferson even started spreading the Gospel to the American Indians, for crying out loud.  Jefferson was actually quite the Christian missionary in his day.  Funny how liberal Atheist idiots leave that historically documented fact out of their stories, huh?

Do you even know what a bigot is?  ”Provening” is not a word. “Your” should be “you’re”.  Thanks for proving that you’re an idiot.

Abortion is not murder.  It is a right that every woman in this country has.  Do you not preach personal freedom?

How about the murder of John Lennon?
The Rwanda massacres?
Many mass murders on school campuses by religious nutjobs?

Off the top of my head…

Like I said before… I am not an atheist.

“I’ve realized the older I get, just how little I really know”.
That is perfect.  I need not say any more.

The fact is, of course, that ordinary atheists are decent ethical people, just as ordinary Christians, Jews and Muslims are decent people. There may be some evidence that Christians are statistically “nicer” people because they give more to charity and what not, but on a personal day-to-day basis, atheists are just as nice as anyone because they have developed morals outside of religion.

It cannot be denied that there have been murders in the name of God, but those people were mentally ill.  A sane Christian would never hurt another human being.

The difference I’m willing to learn.You are enclosed in a vacuum,literally. You’re a pretentious a**,filled with your preceived self rightous importance,who has no validity in fact in your opinions,for they are only that-opinions-not supported by true context.

Chuckles,Ryan. I believe this Sog though,just a different sock…same pretentiousness.

Hahahah

He writes like SOG,I was laughing at 4 this am,when I saw his like-Hahahahhaha

He may be able to read,but he has no comprehension skills,huh,Army?
BTW-welcome to Friends…smiling ….waving…Yahoo!

You account for yourself very well,Army.Unfortunately,my skills don’t allow for all that fast manuevering,pasting,etc.
But,I can tell you which book in my very extentive library a quote may be in-I have about 1000-2000 books in my library.
SoThere,and well -everybody is teaching me ALOT on how to comport myself.
Speaking of comportment-I transfered my Avatar to Friends-think the s*** will hit the fan?

Yes,they stuck out like a sore thumb-which he is! Waving

Si Senor, ” More guns mean more violence and more innocent people killed.”
Please ask Attorney General Holder to send us some more pronto. King Obama will never know. We have ways to keep this kind of stuff “Top Secret”. Nobody will know anything. Senor Soros has mucho pesos.

Well his name is partially correct, he just needs to leave off the word police!

Oops! I thought I was posting on the Huffington Post. Sorry…

Si Senor, ” More guns mean more violence and more innocent people killed.”Please ask Attorney General Holder to send us some more pronto. King Obama will never know. We have ways to keep this kind of stuff “Top Secret”. Nobody will know anything. Senor Soros has mucho pesos also. He promises to pay for all of our healthcare and give us houses and jobs and everything if we just vote for King Obama again. I just hope the gringos don’t find out what’s going on.

We know the they will never read 2,500 pages of legislation you guys secretly whipped up and passed. They will never know how our “insiders” have made millions and billions of dollars by investing in several companies and then dumping them before the markets failed. Senor Kerry (Mass.) and Senora Pelosi(Cal.) among others are very trustworthy and are doing extraordinary work for the American people.

What will they think of next?

Oops! I thought this was the Huffy Post. Sorry!

Why as a “Christian” man do you find yourself caught up in negative banter?  Rather, as a follower of Jesus I would hope you would take this as an opportunity to use the Word to argue your points.  The words’ of God are LIVING, thus giving them more power than your own. I too have at times been in my flesh wanting to satisfy it. But it sadly brought no glory to our Lord.  Nor do I believe it to of had the effect on the person or persons that I was hoping for. That they not just believe in a God, but the One whose son, Jesus, who died for them. These people you argue with quote their heros to make a point, should we not be so bold as to do the same. The awesome difference is our hero actually has power!    Romans12:14   Bless them which persecute you; bless, and curse not.    Romans12:17-20   Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.    If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.    Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath; for it is written,  VENGENCE IS MINE; I WILL REPAY,saith the Lord.    Therefore if THINE ENEMY HUNGER, FEED HIM; IF HE THIRST, GIVE HIM DRINK; FOR IN SO DOING THOU SHALT HEAP HOT COALS OF FIRE ON HIS HEAD.    I humbly write to encourage you brother. For not only do we happily feed the fire with contentious words with these people, but what example are we to other Christians who may be new to the truth.
NUMBERS 6:24-26

Yes, well, don’t expect me much there.  I usually don’t go to sites like that.  Only message board like that I posted to in the last several months was IMBD, and I made only one comment there in the last several months.  I just went there to check things out because I saw that it was popular here.  I’ll check it out every now and then to see what’s up, of course, but don’t expect me much.  Saw some of Ryan’s Gettysburg pics, though.  Nice.  I hope to go there some day myself.

Helps to have multiple tabs handy with links to several quotes from our founding fathers, you know.  A quick Google search, and I found several links proving that every single one of our founding fathers belonged to one Christian belief system or another.  Heck, even our founding fathers who were self proclaimed Deists were actually self proclaimed Christian Deists because their concept of the Creator was the same as the Christian concept of God.  And they believed in Christ and His teachings.  Thomas Jefferson, being the Christian Deist that he was, actually spread the Gospel to the American Indians.  As I told Ryan earlier, Thomas Jefferson was quite the Christian missionary in his day. Even the Jefferson Bible isn’t quite what the Idiot and his Atheist friends make it out to be.  Jefferson actually left many of the miracles of Jesus Christ in his abridged version of the Bible.  Geesh, for someone who hated the miracles of Jesus so much, why did he decide to include them when he brought the Gospels to the American Indians?  Funny how Atheists leave that fact out, huh?  They just want to lie to suit their purpose.

In the poetry section,for Nov.-Dec.-please check out my two poems-one is regrets-it’s good’but the other to the Marines is better-it’ll suck you in.

Seriously-you read it….tell me what you think here or there,OneManArmy.

Yes,I’m learning about the many windows….it’s nuts…but I am learning…that’s all I’ll say about it.

Smiles

They are both very good.  Might I add that they are even good enough to challenge snowleopard, who I feel is our best poet on this site.  She has a way with words, you know.

Well cool!!!
When I get them cop writed,and where apropriate-I’m gonna write them.

I respect ,Snow,they were written from my heart.
Gotta do chores!!

Hey, Ryan.  Have you taken a look at one of the Idiot’s latest posts here where he makes the claim abortion is not murder.  This tells us that the Idiot is all for killing millions of innocent human beings a year before they even have a chance at their first breath.  I mean, someone should tell him that it has been documented both medically and scientifically that a fetus has brain wave activity and can actually feel physical pain as little as 6 weeks in the womb, sometimes even sooner.  Of course, abortion is murder.  This tell’s us just how flawed the Idiot’s reasoning skills are, doesn’t it?

Is there no end to The Weasel O blah blah, Male Cunt of America.  He’ll makes love to himself
daily.  Chris M. leggs must be tingling along with The Weasel asshole.

Because such refutation as you seek won’t work with folks like TheIdiotPolice.  They are trolls here simply to push our buttons and won’t listen to anything we conservatives really have to say.  To confront trolls such as TheIdiotPolice, strtlk, mtclayboy, etc., you have to go down to their level.

Also, by the way, trolls such as TheIdiotPolice are not really quoting their heroes.  They take someone, remove certain quotes from them, take only those quotes which they believe fulfill their selfish agenda, and misquote the individual.  That is, they take quotes out of context.  Thomas Jefferson was a fervent believer in the Christian Creator and the teachings of Jesus Christ.  Yet, folks like TheIdiotPolice misquote Thomas Jefferson for the sole purpose of making you think he was nothing more than an Atheist.  Such tactics do not work when the very facts prove differently.

In short, these trolls don’t really care about the facts.  Any serious attempt to actually reach them will fail.  They aren’t here to actually seek the truth.  They are here for the sole purpose of aggravating us Conservatives so we will lose focus on what is really important.  The best way to handle them is to use their own tactics against them, only mix in a bit of the Truth along the way just to make sure the Truth does make itself known.  That’s what I strove to do here.

Hope that’s a good enough explanation for you.

Ryan, looks like the Idiot is taking some of SOG’s tactics now and calling you the bigot that he, himself, is.  I guess barb is right.  The Idiot must be a SOG sock puppet.  LOL  Wonder if he ever will get a clue.

Well, he might be the fourth best U.S. President who hated the Founding Fathers and everything they stood for.  He just forgot to put everything in the right context … and then had a complete brain fart by trying to compare himself to Lincoln – he’s about as far from Lincoln as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is from settling in a kibbutz.

their hate blinds them to the truth. they realy can’t help themself. blind and cold heartedness is their nature.

then their is Washington telling the natives after they ask how they got to were they were. he basicly said it was the doing of Christ.

what ever SOG.

Ryan, all the leftists posts about Christians killing people and it doesn’t even come close to the hundreds of Millions of people killed by Atheists. They have nothing to brag about.

Indeed.  Never let anyone tell you our founding fathers weren’t Christians.  Both their documented actions and documented writings prove otherwise.  Some of them, like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin, were very inspirational when they brought the knowledge of God and Christ to those who didn’t yet have it.  Quite the servants of God they were.

One who is strongly partial to one’s own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ. since all you did since you got here is show hatred to christians. you the bigot asshole don’t talk to me bigot.

he is i just got him ingoring him now.

you could tell him but the bigot gots his head all the way up his ass so he will not here it. this guy tallks like SOG. a bigot by any other name is still a bigot.

Half a billion in the last decade due entirely to the Atheist ideal of abortion, SoThere.  Indeed, Christians don’t even come close to that.  Christians wouldn’t be able to reach that if we were even given 1000 years.

don’t see how he would. i bet you he just rich lefty that wants to make fun of us believe poor baggers.

yes,I agree,Ryan.

Yes, well, I thought I could just talk around him now rather than to him.  I had my fun talking to him yesterday.  Now I’m just going to talk around him.  I’m just going to take what he says, maybe talk about it in passing to someone else, and act as if he doesn’t exist from this point forward.

like a chicken with it’s head choop off.

good plan it would show him no one realy cares about his brain farts

Now, there’s a good analogy for you.  Though I think the chicken without its head is actually more intelligent than the Idiot.

i think this is SOG doing the whole sock thing. when was the last time Christians as a group killed in the name of God. the dark ages is the only one that comes to mind.

The Crusades and subsequent Inquisition are the last major Christian killings that comes to my mind, Ryan.  But that ended about 600 years ago and was really the only time in history where religion actually played any real part in war.  For the thousands of years prior to then, and the 500 to 1000 years since, power, land, and greed actually has been a basis for many, many more wars than religion.  I mean, name just one war in the last 100 years where religion was the sole, or even the primary, basis for it.  I can’t think of any.

That doesn’t even make sense, so no need to respond.

One_ Man_Army,   I see you have chosen to disregard God’s word to be of greater value and of more power then your own words.  You continuely express how our country was founded on the word of God yet here with others it’s not good enough.   Let me try this;  Hebrews 4:12  For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of jounts and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.     So if I were to receive your points of veiw I would hold out no hope of anyone who is of their mind set to ever have their eyes open to the truth of Jesus Christ.  You want them to except your truth of Christianity yet preach with your own words, and name call.  
You said you need to go to their level.  Well not even Christ did that – and if anyone had that right it was Him for what He was to endure for us. Yet,  after 40 days in the desert, fasting, He was then allowed to be tempted by Satan, and Jesus Himself used God’s word to come against His foe.   You are asking these people to have faith in something greater then themselves yet you deny it’s very power.  Romans 10:17  So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.    My brother does not God tell us in Ephesians 6:12  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.      Christ paid the same price for these as He did for you and me.  Let us not grow weary in doing good, but let us overcome evil with good.   Fight the GOOD fight brother.
Numbers 6:24-26   

You are talking about YOUR president.  Have some Goddamn respect.

Better a sock puppet than a Glenn Beck zombie.  ; )

And how many groups, religion, races do you dislike?  Since I only dislike hypocrite Christians… I can comfortably say that I am less of a bigot than you.

Exactly.

What are you even on about?  I have NEVER and will NEVER disregard God’s words.  I hold ALL of God’s words with deep regard.  You just have to realize that these trolls won’t and NEVER will hold any regard to God’s words.  Because of this, no amount of reaching them will work.  They aren’t here to seek the Truth.  They are here to divide and divide alone.  The only confrontation that works for them is going to their level.

Wow.  Although you seem to be a kind-hearted individual… you are actually worse off than one_man_army. 

You better yourselves at the expense of others.

none.

Why would anyone hold the words of a make-believe deity with deep regard?  I hold the words of REAL people with deep regard.  Those are the only ones worth listening to.

And exposing their fallacies,and how they arrived at their distorted views,Army.

You made me laugh!!
You have it exactly right!

Hahahhha

You watch your language,GG! Kids do visit this site!
Or you will be booted! Glenn doesn’t put up with that trash talk.

And we also have a place to “report you.”

Only those views based on religion are truly distorted.

You really are full of yourself aren’t you,SOG?

Only. Why?

Ryan, I just thought of something I will do here for the benefit of you and everyone else. I will list several wars throughout our planet, as well as the basis behind them, in the last century, including the most recent war on terrorism we’re in today.

War                          Basis

WWII                        Political strife, power, greed, land  NOTE: Religion, though a part of the war, was certainly not a basis for it.
WWI                         Political strife  NOTE: Strangely, religion didn’t even really play a minor part in this war.  However, it was Christianity that brought this war to a near global peace during its first Christmas when the Germans started singing Silent Night and those who were once fighting to the death were now passing out presents in No Man’s Land.  The power of Christianity there to bring nearly global peace for that Christmas at least.  Funny how this Christian peace gets overlooked, huh?
Vietnam                   Communism
Korea                       Communism
Russian Revolution    Communism
Chinese Revolution    Communism
First Gulf War           Land       Saddam Hussein did start it after he invaded Kuwait for land and oil.
War in Kosovo          Political strife, ethnicity
War on Terrorism      Terrorism  NOTE: Religion, Islamic extremism that is, does definitely play a part in this war.  However, the basis of the war was terrorism in general and not just Islamic extremism.

Well, those are some major wars from the last century that come to mind.  Strange how often Communism, a wholly Atheistic ideal, came up, isn’t it?  Seems Atheism is responsible for more wars than anything else.

Just thought I’d let that known.

boy,you Have been drinking the progressive Koolaid,huh,Sog?

Actually I’m drinking rum and coke.  Does SOG mean “son of god”.  Because I take offense to that.  ; )

Like he has respect for the citizens who elected him? Running roughshod over our GOD given rights,that Come from God! And not a Dictator-in-Chief?

and nothing to do with Christians weird.

You know very well who,and what you are.

R&C happens to be a good choice.

Did he deliver those rights personally?  I got mine from the Easter Bunny.

Indeed.  I may not be the best when it comes to words.  However, I did try to sprinkle in some truth in my banter with the Idiot.  At least you and Ryan get it.

and he says he is not an atheist LOL!

Sprinkle is an accurate term.

If I was… why would I not proclaim it?  Can you think of any reason at this point?

or just plain drunk.

Oh yeah,the truth comes eloquently to your words…because they’re based in truth,Army.
Going to discus to post to you.

That is beside the point.  Ha.

Ryan,no I’m not not! Just a toddy.

I really don’t know all the conservative acronyms… so they are meaningless to me unless written out.

Well, Christians did bring a near global peace during the first Christmas of WWI.  That first Christmas of WWI often gets overlooked, you know.  I have a book about it myself. In some areas, the peace treaty went well into January before they started fighting again.  The Germans, French, and English really did pass around gifts in No Man’s Land during the first Christmas of WWI.  Some great stories to tell there, you know.  Interesting to read about it.

If you do not believe in God why do you capitilize here?

Out of habit.  It is the “proper” way to write a name.  I do have respect for grammar.

I know the real reason, but why do you all think that Beck lost his show on Fox?

But in your eyes this “name” does not exist.  So for someone of your intellect it would still be proper grammer not to capitilize. Atheist I know do not.

I have the greatest respect for the office, but not so much for the man. Sorry if that offends anyones belief in him. He has done the most to the country, not for the country, than almost any other president.

This is, sadly, an unfortunate truth.

Santa Claus doesn’t exist either, but I still capitalize his name.  You can call me an atheist if that makes you more comfortable.

Obama has only been dealing with the financial disaster set in motion during the reign of W. and his dergulation of big business.  No intelligent person can deny that.

It’s has nothing to do with comfort. Your words lead me to this conclusion.  At one time Santa was real, Saint Nick. Just over these many years he got a name change.  But I’ll give you that one.

great example of Christian love. i heard somethings about that.

I find a good deal of wisdom in Taoism and Buddhism, but would classify myself as spiritual.  I worship no deity.

don’t we allways.

Do you REALLY think there is any chance of America becoming a “communist state”?  I mean… seriously. 

Will you ever stop putting blame on W. and hold O. responsible for any wrong doing?
Leaving the troubles we are having in our country out; he has brought shame on us by bowing to other leaders, and making apologies for us.  That does not instill in many the roll of a strong leader, nor keep us safe against the very dictators he pays homage to.

I put blame on those that earn it.  W. has earned all the criticism he gets.  I don’t get why conservatives always defend his actions and poor decisions.  I admit that Obama needs to stiffen his spine at times and not try to appease everyone, but he has not paid homage to any dictators. 

So you choose to put your faith in what is finite and destructable.

I never stated that I put faith in anything.  Faith is not a word I use.  And what is not destructable?

So you do admit he makes mistakes. Then he too has earned some of the criticism he gets.  The problem I see here is a form of dissimulation on his part and those who defend him.

Okay, let me ask you this, what do you put your hope in?

Every president makes mistakes.  To say that he wants to “destroy the country” (like many conservatives do) is ridiculous and without any reason or foundation in truth.

I save my hope for simple things.  Things that I have at least partial control over.  I hope that I keep my job, my health and things that bring me joy.  Anything else is a wasted effort and detracts from the others..

You consider yourself to be a somewhat wise man, as do I.  Your ability to argue well and defer from certain comments and get back to degrading the population of those who choose to disagree with you is very good.  I however have never understood why a wise person needs to debase others just to make a point.

I deal with people according to the way they present themselves and their argument.  If someone insists on making outlandish statements and basing their arguments merely on their own faith, then I respond accordingly.  I am perfectly capable of and actaully prefer having a civilised discussion, as I consider this to be. 

Sorry last comment under wrong post.  Just want to say,  I appreciate your candor concerning your belief system and will respect it.  Only wish you would show the same.

Indeed.  Just think of how many more people would have died during WWI if it wasn’t for that Christian peace.

I respect everone’s right to their own beliefs, so long as they don’t use their own personal beliefs as a given truth in an argument.

Again, sorry should have read this before hitting post. 

Didn’t see this post before.  Because you cannot claim something that you believe in to be truth.  The Bible is not an accepted historical document, therefore, you can only base your opinion on it.

I was responding to your earlier post, which I cannot seem to find, must be tired. Anyway was booted off I guess.   I have to say I didn’t think the Santa thing was  you. .  Have a blessed night. 

This is the post I was responding to when booted. You use your own personal beliefs in your arguments as given truth percieved through your eyes. You believe in you, this world, things that are tangible. That is still a belief, it is your version of truth. Suffice it to say, it makes you who you are as an individual. I would be wrong to malign your character because I disagree with you. I chose to have faith in what is unseen, thus making it faith. It is who I am. I can no more seperate myself from it than you from your skin. You say your spiritual, I say I have The Spirit LIVING within me. So as we are, so as we will live and speak. Just as you think it crazy for me to believe in something unseen, I inturn find it implausible for one to look around and not have faith. I think when we insult and try to hurt others just to make our point only lends to satisfy something inside, not to actually make a difference. As for the bible, there is accepted historical facts to support it. It all depends on where one looks. I try to find as many studies as possible. I like to do my own homework and line it all up against the word of God. So far science has not been able to disprove God or the bible. They have, however, been able to substantiate quite a bit.

He so full of his own perceived intellegence,he can’t or won’t concede his actual ignorance.
Going trout fishing in the am!!! Yahoo!

good luck with that and don’t fall in. you bring Stu and his boat Stutinnic

i was thinking about something. atheist clame that Cristians are a dying race. which is not true look at the fans of Tebow. young girls and boys wearing these Jesus shirts. two my church has been geting new members daily. point two atheist are realy sun worshipers. they clame that we are we came from monkeies and if you keep following this line to were it begian we came from a star dust. their faith they think a star made us. point three thet call believers stupid. 70% of Astronomiers are Cristians even Einstein didn’t even toss out the possablity of a God.

i was thinking about something. atheist clame that Cristians are a dying race. which is not true look at the fans of Tebow. young girls and boys wearing these Jesus shirts. two my church has been geting new members daily. point two atheist are realy sun worshipers. they clame that we are we came from monkeies and if you keep following this line to were it begian we came from a star dust. their faith they think a star made us. point three thet call believers stupid. 70% of Astronomiers are Cristians even Einstein didn’t even toss out the possablity of a God.

gb is lying once again…
he is an evil, child attacking, racist, nazi screaming, anti-semitic who will do anything to stay in the lime light in order to squeeze a couple more nickles out of his cult before he starts his own physical cult in the open plains of Texas.
Sorry Texas, you have to deal with this idiot now.
For a “so called” man who has never had the balls to run or stand ANY public office, he sure seems to know everything about public office.
Shouldn’t he be a little more focused on commenting about being fired, being an alcoholic or loving the KKK?

Apparently someone has blocked this!  I’ve tried to watch it several time now and the screen just remains black!

It is impossible to prove something doesn’t exist.  The burden of proof lies with the believer.  I can’t prove that there isn’t a ghost in my living room right now.  It would be the person who claims that there is one who would need to prove it.  And stating that something tangible and measurable is true is not based on “belief”.  It’s right there.  It can be touched and seen.
Other cultures have just as much faith and belief in their gods as Christians do.  Why are they wrong?  Why is it that Christians are so sure that they are right?  The Romans used to worship the Greek gods and believed in them with every fiber of their being.  They had no less proof in them than Christians do in God.  The fact is that most Christians would say that they are right and all other religions are wrong based only on their personal belief, not fact or evidence.  If Christians could keep their beliefs to themselves and stop trying to force it on everyone else… the world would be a much better place.  You don’t need to pray in schools or stop gays from getting married or outlaw stemcell research, etc…  Live the way you want and let others do the same.  If you are going to follow the teachings of the Bible… then ACTUALLY do it.  Don’t pick and choose what is convenient.  Stop judging people and treat them as you want to be treated. 
-I am not referring to you personally here.  Just speaking in general terms.  Not all Christians are guilty of these things.

He was good enough for Obama to continue some of his policies.

He was good enough for Obama to continue some of his policies.

Sounds like a plan…….

sounds like a plan….

Well, Ryan, here’s a little tidbit of information for you that I picked up over several years of personal study.  Christianity is actually the largest and second fastest growing religion on the planet.  Islam is the fastest growing and second largest religion on the planet.  When Atheists make the facetious claim that Christians are a dying race, it means they have never once truly looked at the global trend.

Also, most scientists these days still proclaim some form of religious affiliation, whether that be Christian or otherwise.  Heck, a lot happen to be Jews, as well.  I’ve even seen some Muslim scientists.  Truth be told, the strictly Atheistic scientists are actually a very tiny minority.  This is another lie from them to further their agenda.

Here’s a link for you.

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html 

I’d like to note that the numbers come from 2007.  Since then, both Christianity and Islam have grown.  I will also note that the 1.1 billion figure that Atheists are included in also includes the Secular, Nonreligious, and Agnostic, and not just strictly Atheists.  Further search on that same site tell us that true Atheists are estimated to make up between 200 and 240 million of the world’s population, which, coincidentally, is about the amount of growth by Christians since 2007.  This means that even at the highest estimate, Atheists don’t even make up 4% of the world’s population.  Funny how they leave this information out, huh?  For such a dying breed, Christians actually grow faster than there are total Atheists on the entire planet.  Muslims grow even faster than that.  Seems the dying breed are Atheists to me.  Of course, that’s if you want to believe these documented facts.  If, however, like Atheists, you want to live in a delusional world where only your point of view matters, I guess Christians are a dying race.  LOL.  That’s Atheists for you.  Don’t listen to them.  Most of them don’t have a clue what they talk about.

Ryan, I found some more stats for you.  First, a link I just found interesting.  It breaks the world down to 100 people.  I found it as a quick link.  Take a look at the religion part of it.

http://www.100people.org/statistics_100stats.php?section=statistics 

Also, as an interesting little note, not from that site but elsewhere, it appears as if Christianity is growing at a slightly faster rate than the entire global population.  Between 2005 and 2010 the world population grew at a rate of 1.2% per year.  The Christian population grew at a rate of 1.3% per year over the same period.  As a comparison, the Muslim population grew at a rate of 1.9% per year over the same period, and the Hindu population grew at a rate of 1.5% per year over the same period.  Seems Christians are not dying off at all considering they are actually growing faster than the entire planet is, huh?  It also should be noted that Atheism, as a share of the world population, has actually seen a drastic decline in the last decade while Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism continue to grow as a share of the world population.  Although Christianity’s share of the world population does grow at a much less rate than Hindus and Muslims, it still has a growing share.  These are documents statistics documented by several different global agencies.  It’s just that Atheists tend to ignore these documented statistics because they don’t fit their narrow minded agenda.

Here’s another good link that also confirms the numbers of the adherents website.  It has some interesting info too.

http://www.religions-congress.org/content/view/130/35/lang,english/ 

The modern theory concerning the evolution of man states that humans and apes
derive from an apelike ancestor that lived on earth a few million years ago. The
theory states that man, through a combination of environmental and genetic
factors, emerged as a species to produce the variety of ethnicities seen today,
while modern apes evolved on a separate evolutionary pathway.  In many ways, apes actually evolved from humans.  Modern day humans and apes share approx. 98.4% of the same DNA.  Creationism can’t explain why there are million year old fossils found all over the world of evolving ape-like hominoids.  The Earth is accepted by scientists to be around 4.5 billion years old.  Creationism cannot explain that either.  Many Christians now accept a hybrid theory that allows Creationism and Evolution to co-exist.  The reason is because the science and evidence is too overwhelming to ignore or dismiss.

The highest disctinction obama will be able to claim is that he is the WORST president ever in the history of our great nation.  That he obtained office illegally is what he will boast about once he is defeated.  His ego will not accept anything less.  God have mercy on us if he is re-elected.

Then there is modern theory concerning the evolution of  man which  states that humans derive from fish or birds.  This theory also is a combination of enviromental and genetic factors.  One example of the fish thing is that as humans we are made up of more than 84 elements, and or, properties of  saltwater.  Then I have read that our skeletal make-up has some resemblance to show we evolved from birds.  I shared with you earlier that I look at many studies to make a more informed decision or conclusion.  So which science do you choose to be truth?

I think Obama is confused AGAIN, WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT DICTATORS, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT PRESIDENTS, THERE IS A BIG , BIG DIFFERENCE!
THE ONLY PEOPLE I’D COMPARE OBAMA TO ARE MAO-TSE-TUNG, KARL MARX, HITLER AND A FEW OTHER NUTJOBS, BUT THEN AGAIN, BO HAS DONE MORE HARM IN FOUR YEARS THAN THE REST OF THEM DID IN FORTY!

I just got got that sensation of rampant diahrrea running out of my ass…..The sooner this peckerhead leaves the oval office….The BETTER!!!!

Get this dumbass out of the whitehouseASAP!!!!

very interesting i had to save the last link.

He may indeed, but he is’nt turning ”up” the burners as he should.Most voters haven’t got a clue on what to look,and listen for in the “right choice, unfortunately. How many people were suckered into voting for Billy Bob Clinton when he showed up on the Arsenio Hall Show wearing sunglasses playing a saxophone?……..Desperate Californians voting in a “Terminator’ for governor……We now have anti-American,pro-muslim-socialist/marxist bastard who thinks he is the 4th best president in history…..Give me a fucking break!!!

the never do it just so sad.

A 2008 survey published in Encyclopedia Britannica found that the non-religious made up about 11.9% of the world’s population, and atheists about 2.3%. This figure did not include those who follow atheistic religions, such as some Buddhists. The rates of atheism in the European countries surveyed were considerably higher: Italy (7%), Spain (11%), Great Britain (17%),
Germany (20%), and France (32%). According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics 19% of Australians have “no religion”, a category that includes atheists. Between 64% and 65% of
Japanese are atheists, agnostics, or do not believe in a god.
An international study has reported positive correlations between levels of education and not believing in a deity, and the EU survey finds a positive correlation between leaving school early and believing in a God.
Another study assessing religiosity among scientists who are members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science found that “just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power. Meaning that 49% of scientists do not believe in a higher power or deity.
Sociologist Phil Zuckerman analyzed previous social science research on secularity and non-belief, and concluded that societal well-being is positively correlated with irreligion. His findings relating specifically to atheism include:
Compared to religious people, “atheists and secular people” are LESS nationalistic, prejudiced, antisemitic, racist, dogmatic, ethnocentric, close-minded, and authoritarian.In the US, in states with the highest percentages of atheists, the murder rate is lower than average. In the most religious US states, the murder rate is higher than average.

There are always going to alternative theories to anything.  I appreciate their ideas and efforts, but the “fish” and “bird” theories have very little evidence to support them and only supported by a miniscule percentage of the scientific population.  Usually these types of theories are presented by scientists eager to make a name for themselves and like the attention they bring to their research and university.

Anyone who compares Obama to Hitler in any capacity has zero credibility and need not contribute to any conversation, less they be called out for what they truly are… an idiot.

You’d better get that looked at.  You could ruin a fine pair of slacks that way.

He will be re-elected because the Republicans have no one of value or substance to offer in his place.

I had to go to youtube in order to watch this video (for whatever reason).  Glenn Beck, once again, deliberately takes Obama’s words out of context for his own selfish needs.  “Obama says he’s the 4th best president ever” is ABSOLUTELY NOT what he said.  Obama stated that his “legislative foreign policy over the first two years of his presidency” is within the top four.  Those are two very different statements and only Glenn Beck or Fox News would distort that to claim otherwise.  Instead of just jumping on the president bashing bandwagon, why hasn’t anyone else, regardless of how you feel about Obama, mentioned that he didn’t actually make that claim??? 

It doesn’t make you any less of a conservative to aknowledge that Glenn Beck is wrong once in awhile. 

 What else would you call a President who (along with his hench man Eric Holder) attempts to overturn the 2nd Amendment SECRETLY and “under the radar” (HIS words) by forcing the shipment of hundreds of assault weapons to Mexican narco-terrorists resulting in the deaths of hundreds of people INCLUDING A U.S. BORDER AGENT? How does THAT compare to Watergate in your view? Does not the U.S. Constitution consider 0bama’s actions on this matter as TREASONOUS and to be an ENEMY OF THE STATE?

You just did the same thing you accuse Glenn Beck of doing.. LOL!  Here, let’s look at the EXACT quote: “I would put our legislative and foreign policy accomplishments in our
first two years against any president — with the possible exceptions of
Johnson, F.D.R., and Lincoln — just in terms of what we’ve gotten done
in modern history.”  THAT DOESN’T SOUND LIKE A NARCISSISTIC, SOCIOPATHIC, MEGALOMANIAC’S MIND SET TO YOU?

First of all, I didn’t write out the entire exact quote because it was’t necessary to make my point.  Obama is entitled to his own opinion.  The POINT, which you ignored, was that Beck changed what Obama said for his own personal agenda.  Can you not admit that?  Regardless of whether or not you agree with Obama’s statement is beside the point.  He DID NOT say that he is the 4th best president.  Why defend something that is clearly indefensible?

And I am not “accusing” him of doing it.  He did it.  There is no question.  The proof is in the pudding… as they say.

First of all… you cannot “secretly” overturn an amendment.
Secondly… not everything that Glenn Beck might claim is true.  Actually, very few things that Beck claims are true.
Finally… you compared Obama to HITLER, not Nixon.  Hitler is responsibile for attempted GENOCIDE and a World War.  Do you place the actions of Nixon equal to those of Hitler???
In your mindset, being accused of stealing an apple is on par with being convicted of rape.

Oh idiotpolice troll

This guy may be the most arrogant individual I’ve heard of in a while. Twice in the last week I’ve heard audio of him saying, “I don’t want to pat myself on the back,” holy crap, who says that?  This dude sucks.  At least Johnson sent guys to fight communism, this guy just makes us weak, and paints a big red target on Israel.  He’s such a putz.    
 

Oh, look, Ryan.  The Idiot continues to outright lie.  He even considers Buddhism an atheistic religion.  He’s alone in that regard though.  Buddhism is not really an atheistic religion.  Calling it such actually insults Buddhism.  Buddhists believe in the Buddha, after all, so they couldn’t really be atheistic. He also considers the non-religious to be Atheists.  This is, however, not the case.  Only a fraction of the non-religious are actual atheists.  As I said, idiots like him don’t have a clue what they ever talk about.  People like that just don’t get it.  Anyway, Buddhists also overpower Atheists by at least 2 to 1.  I mean, even his Japanese claim is facetious at best considering how many religions there are in Japan.  It is true that not very many Japanese don’t believe in God.  Only about a third of them do.  However, the vast majority of the Japanese do actually proclaim some religious affiliation, specifically Shintoism and Buddhism, which certainly are not atheistic as the Idiot claims.  In fact, 93% of Japan associate with the Shinto religion.  As a matter of fact, a few Japanese who associate with Shintoism also believe in God.  The thing with Japan is that religions in Japan overlap in a major way.  Most people in Japan actually associate with several religions.  In actual fact, true atheists make up a very tiny minority there, as well, just as they do everywhere else on the globe.  Don’t let his outright lies fool you there. Getting half the information from Encyclopedia Britannica just doesn’t work. The Idiot really should explain what the rest of that survey indicates, but he doesn’t. Stating half the truth is what idiots like him do best.

You’re a lying sack of crap. You denied serving on a submarine, and knowing what SSBN was. I posted your words verbatim.

You’re a Wikipedia sailor and a lying puke.

Here’s your “one on one” you little puke of a man.

1. As mtclayboy you claimed that you served on a BOOMER. As strtlk you claimed not to know what a Boomer or a SSBN was “I don’t care” were your exact words. You also stated that you didn’t know where Bangor, Wa. was which is where Boomers (submarines) are fitted for duty.
Any real Submariner would know that. You didn’t!

2. You then changed your story and claimed that you were on a BOOMER. You lied.

3. As mtclayboy you claimed that you had damaged your ears while serving on a Submarine. As strtlk, you claimed that you damaged your ears while serving on a submarine.

4. As mtclayboy you claimed that you joined the Navy and served for five years on a submarine but according to the timeline you gave that was proven to be a lie. You lied.

5. As mtclayboy you said that you were a Fireman. As strtlk, you claimed you were a Fireman.

6. As mtclayboy and as strtlk, you posted the same bigotry and hate against Glenn Beck almost word for word even using the same spelling and grammatical errors and focusing on the children. I’ve posted many of them here already.

Are you catching on everyone? He’s a liar plain and simple and nothing he claims can be believed.

Folks, I have the posts of this Phony and have posted just a couple to prove he is a liar and just makes up stories about his Military Service. His latest story is right out of Wikipedia. His classified VMS crap is also right out of Wikipedia and US NAVY.mil. I’m a member there.

He wants to take me on “one on one” when he’s already proven in his own words that he’s a liar and a fake.

Flag the idiot

There you go loser, “one on one” only I backed up my posts with facts and your own words as proof. Why don’t you have the balls to admit to your lies, tuck your head up your A$$, take your bigotry and hate and Phony Soldier ID and leave us honest people alone?

Once again, Here you are caught in your lies. These are your words verbatim:

strtlk said: on Hollywood elites want to be taxed more 09/24/11 07:51 PM

“1. No idea where Bangor, WA is. I thought Bangor was in Maine!
2. What the heck is a “Boomer” or SSBN? You know what…I don’t care!
3. Reminding people that glenn was a dead beat dad is a factual statement about him, not his innocent children. Nice try though slime ball.
3. Either talk about something relevant and stop this, you are jason bourne crap!”

Caught in your lies strtlk.

Thanks for proving me correct.

Folks, strtlk/mtclayboy has been caught in his lies, He’s a lying sack of crap.

“TMP”

they live in their own little world. doesn’t Buddism have more then one God?

don’t tell the idiot that it would break his heart:) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Actually, no, not really.  Though, Hinduism, which Buddhism was born out of, does.  In truth, Buddhists don’t really believe in deities.  However, this isn’t to say they don’t believe in anything at all like atheists do.  Buddhists have the Buddha.  They aren’t atheists simply for the fact that they believe in something greater than themselves.  They believe in something.  Atheists don’t.  This is a fact the Idiot won’t make known.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! you see his avitar looks like Santa not stoping at his house. maybe some one should tell him he not real.

Well, I have a challenge here for him and any other idiot like him.  Name any war, any war at all, in the last 500 years, and I’m willing to bet I could name a bigger basis or purpose for that war than religion.  I did that for all the major wars of the past 100 years already.  I’m betting I could do that going back 500.  Going back to the beginning of time, power, land, and greed were the basis for more wars than anything else.  Basically, politics.  Politics has played more in starting wars than religion ever could.  Even all the holy wars from Islam can’t even compete.

Well, he was real once, Ryan.  Saint Nick, after all.  Thing is, the Idiot probably believes Santa Clause is based off of a Pagan tradition.  However, it isn’t.  The story of Santa Clause is actually based off of the life of a Christian Saint.  Saint Nicholas, aka, Patron Saint of Children.

i don’t think he is even that smart. he will just call us a bigot. get out of the basement and cry to mom sucking his thumb.

I wouldn’t doubt it.  I mean, he probably isn’t intelligent enough to name just one major conflict that happened between 100 and 200 years ago.  About 10 come to my mind almost immediately, and none of them were based on religion.  There’s no telling how many would come to my mind if I actually started thinking about it.

did you notice he was lying again about his God Obama again. top of the page LOL.

ahhhhhhh.

i thought he was drunk LOL!

Indeed, Ryan.  Expect nothing more from him.  His defense of Obama is rather sickening.  I mean, it’s very well known and actually documented that many of Obama’s actions actually resemble that of Hitler.  To defend Obama is to defend Hitler.

Just out of curiosity are the theories of Darwin something you agree with? Have you read his book.. Origins; also Vestiges by Chambers.

Type your reply…

Darwin was a brilliant man for his time. Of course, his theory has been adapted and updated with all of the new fossil evidence and carbon-dating advancements that have been discovered since his original work was introduced. So while I can’t agree with everything in his book, “The Origin of Species”, the foundation of modern evolutionary theory is based on his work.  I have not read “Vestiges”, but am aware of its content and purpose. 

It is widely accepted that Lincoln suffered from Major Depressive Disorder.  To what extent will never fully be known.  It is not a stretch to say that he may have been unstable at times.  I don’t think it played any major role in his presidential decisions.

Stop being so sensitive.  You think everyone on here is honest?  You can’t be that naive.

He didn’t sound drunk-just wrong,and ill informed,Ryan

Do you think I could write like I do if I was drunk-give me a break.LOL I make my own wine also.

Ahhhh

It’s funny you should say that! Almost needed STUTANIC!
The snow was a little deeper than I thought,and slippery-whoops! But I caught myself. LOL

He’s just a hater period.

messing.

it makes me sad that their are people like this that hates us so much that they lose the message of Jesus teachings and what he did for us.

we just got a dusting here.

it reminds me of something Patton once said “If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn’t thinking.” the left make fun of the right when we fight but that just means the left not thinking.

oh well he can hate us all he wants i hope someday he opens his eyes to the truth.

They had 6″,going to get this done this am…I’m going to work this morning,hard work,has to be done!
I Just realized,Christmas is Sunday!
No cards our yet!!!!!! Yikes

Nah,he’s just trying to stir the pot,he knows exactely what he’s doing

Wish I had some of those smiley’s here,Thump on the head!

Hhahahah

I’d chase a Phony Soldier to the gates of Hell. No naivete involved.

as they should be.

Jane, don’t let this idiot fool you.  He’s just an idiot who takes quotes out of context just to prove a point that doesn’t exist.  The point this particular idiot wants to prove is easily proven wrong by a simple search.  TheIdiotPolice is nothing but a good for nothing troll who has lied on more than one occasion on this page alone.  His only goal here is to divide us.  Look no further than his evilbible link if you don’t believe.  That link, alone, should tell you where this particular idiot stands.

Dyann, the video remains black for me, as well, but I think it’s another problem.  I did watch it, but had to get around some hurdles to do so.  You see, I use Google Chrome and watch several of Beck’s videos at once using tabs.  Sometimes, when one Beck video ends in one tab, another Beck video automatically begins in another.  If you use Chrome at all, try opening up a Beck video that you can play in one tab leaving this video open in another tab.  Let that one video that did play finish up and see if this one will automatically play for you.  Worked for me.  Might work for you.

I wouldn’t be so sure about that barbara.  It’s giving him too much credit.  He really could just be as stupid as he make himself out to be.  That’s why idiots like him make such good tools for the left.  Completely brainless and willing to be led like lambs to the slaughter by their liberal dictators.

Indeed, Ryan.  The left just want us to think like them.  Since we are too intelligent to think like them, however, they think us stupid.  This fits Patton’s quote right there quite well.  Since the left wants everyone to think like them, they aren’t thinking themselves.  LOL

No one said it was ok to be dishonest.  All I’m sayin’ is don’t go into a muderous rampage over it.

If someone is going to make an outlandish statement, they should be able to back it up.  And just because someone posts a link of someone else’s opinion, it doesn’t mean that they agree with or support that opinion.  It’s just an alternative opinion.

Looking forward to Bill Clinton’s appearance on The Factor this evening.  Clinton is my hero.

i am sorry but i don’t talk to bigots.

You just talked to me, so therefore you no longer think I am a bigot.  Thank You.  Glad you came to your senses, Ryan.  Merry Christmas.

all right that was a good one. Merry Christmas to you to.

It would certainly explain his ignorance! Even when presented with the Truth!
Heh! Guess what? I did some revisions with my poems.And they’re copyrighted now,since 2007! Awesome,huh?
One of the titles was reverted back(I finally found the correct name)But they won’t leave where they’re at…no public. Cool,I’ll find you guys and start posting.

That’s why open-minded Americans, like me, make such good tools for the left. I point out the completely brainless who are willing to be led like lambs to the slaughter by their conservative hate-mongers.

You are one of the most closed minded liberals. I’ve ever posted to,except Pagasea.

Sorry you guys have the prize for closed minded,rude,over-bearing,vugarity,and allowing yourselves to be led like lambs to slaughter.

The only one who leads me is God,and my Constitution / Bill of Rights….and knowledge of both.

Your mind has to be open to everything before you can reject anything.  Has your mind ever been open to anything outside of the first and last page of the Bible?  I doubt it.

 ”There is only one religion, though there are a hundred versions of it”. – G. B. Shaw

Well,as I don’t attend church,per se,all I do is follow the 10 Commandments,and the Constitution,I’d say that leaves one wide open to open ideas. I’m pretty flexible…I just don’t suffer fools lightly.

Closed minded is when one is faced with total imformation on any given subject,and you refuse through bias,to accept the truths placed before you.
Do you agree?

Now this is simply very very sad.  Yet hilarious.  Bush made some good decisions, but to contend that the invasion or Iraq was justified somehow achieved his goals is simply ridiculous.  Afghanistan? Maybe a good decision, but probably the wrong one.

Weakened Al Qaeda? Seriously?  Bush’s stupid policies and statement s did nothing but fuel support for them.  Now instead of having al Qaeda as a small group primarily based in Afghanistan, we face a mush greater threat – it has grown in numbers and spread geographically!

Thanks George, t-baggers, and Muslim hatists – way to go!  Make us less safe through your ignorance and chest-thumping. A-holes!

Closed-minded is when you are presented with alternate information, on any given subject, and you refuse to consider it because it differs with your current viewpoint, for any reason.
I was raised and lived in a Lutheran home until I was 20, so I know enough about religion to speak on the subject.  I CHOSE to explore Buddhism, Taoism, atheism,etc… and create my own belief system based on the information and wisdom I gained.
Have you done the same, Barbara?  Or have you been clinging to the Bible your whole life?
Do you have friends of different races, religions, sexual preferences?  I do. 
So nothing infuriates me more than watching the persecution of innocent, good-hearted people by Christian conservatives for being different.  Our “differences” are what make America great.  Just because something wasn’t mentioned in or was condemned by a 2,000 year old book or a 200 year old political document, doesn’t make it wrong or evil.  Times change, minds change.  You can’t stop change.  All you can do is complain and fight it until it passes you by.  One day there will be gay marriages all over the world and millions of lives will be made better by stemcell research, along with countless other things that get protested everyday by conservatives.  The founding fathers had slaves.  I assume you would not defend that, correct?  People were once persecuted for suggesting that the world was not flat by the religious powers-that-be.  Would you defend them as well.  Mistakes are meant to be learned from, not repeated.
You will not find all the answers in the Bible and Constitution.  We have evolved.

That’s good to hear.  Any chance you have more you can post?  Maybe you can sell a book with your poems if you have enough and make some money out of it.

as it sould be. my grandfather didn’t go to church himself he prefured to find the answers himself. me i love going but then again i go to a godly church. when you walk in our doors for the first time you will be welcome not matter who you are. we care about the soul not were you been in the past.

looks like you are haven fun.

did you get a chace to read them they are very good.

did you get a chace to read them they are very good.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with you unless one of the other candidates does something spectacular over the next few months.  This country has become one of want and selfishness and when you have someone like Obama that is willing to give you everything for nothing, why would you look towards someone else that threatens that.

 I’m sorry, but it’s bad enough that HE claims he’s one of the 4 best presidents (maybe the best at dividing our country, spending the most money, putting more people on welfare, the highest unemployement record since the Great Depression, making our borders and the country itself less safe, and the laughing stock of the rest of the world), but to include Johnson as one of the best – You’ve got to be kidding!

Yes, I did.  I thought they were very good.

See what I mean, Jane.  Here he is thinking his evil bible link is relevant.  However, no one who is serious would use such a link simply because his evil bible link is completely illogical.  His own attitude, plus the fact that he posts such an illogical link, proves that he actually does completely agree with it.  Don’t let him fool you.  He is nothing but a complete and utter imbecile who can’t back himself up with any relevant facts.  He has to go to such ridiculously illogical websites as evilbible.com in order to prove his point.  The best that idiots like him can do is outright lie because the actual facts prove the exact opposite of what the say to be true.

No, Lincoln did suffer from mental disorders, just an fyi.

she is trying to get me to write some of my short stories that i haven’t done in years. i hope it truns out ok.

You should, Ryan.  Maybe you can collect them in your own book and make some money out of it.

YES, I do.

i started last week.

Obama will not be reelected. Do not listen to the media who supports this skinny legged coward of a president. Remember this bastard was put in there illegally by ignorant people and groups who want to overthrow our country.

Folks quite talking like there is no way out. I have decided that whoever runs against Obama and is not a democrat is who I will vote for. Anyone is better than Obama!!

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He was put in there by over half of the U.S. voting population.  Would you rather his legs be fat, like Newt?

well put..

Anything that discredits the Bible cannot be ridiculously illogical.  It takes logic to point out all the hypocrisy and contradictions within the Bible… and there are plenty.  I found the website to be amusing in its delivery, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t some valid points behind them.  The fact that it uses biblical verse to prove its points should have made it dificult for you to dismiss.  Apparently the stories of the Bible cannot be open to interpretation by anyone other than you.  Perhaps you have a “God Complex”?

You dated a girl with Mexican descendents…
A guy at your church dated a Muslim…
That is quite an argument.  lol
Let me ask you this…
Are you against gay marriage?
Against gays serving in the military?
Would you protest a Mosque being built near your home?
Do you respect (not agree with), but respect the decision of the Supreme Court to uphold Roe v. Wade?
The answer to those question will show me how much you believe in personal freedom and liberty. 

OneManArmy-(noticed I used you’re full title?)
I’m working on that now. I had a fire of my vehicle a few years back,before my horse accident. So therefore my memories are sparse…But what I pen of the heart ,that can be , duplicated in time….
What I feel is of Military heart,and needs to be duplicated.
I’m working on it….The plan that I have is only $35 .Cool,huh?

Uhm, it wasn’t mental disorders that Lincoln suffered from.  It was depression.  There is a major distinction there.  Just an fyi.  Anyone who claims Lincoln suffered from mental disorders doesn’t even have a single clue about Lincoln.

Might want to start taking a look at actual facts there, 69mil, because you just proved how ignorant you liberals are.  The invasion of Iraq WAS justified.  It was justified because Saddam Hussein murdered, raped, and tortured his own people just for the fun of it.  It was justified because the Iraqis begged us to topple Saddams’s regime.  It was justified because of Saddam Husseins very well known and very well documented ties to terrorists.  Finally, it was justified because Congress actually authorized it.  To say it wasn’t justified is absolutely, without a doubt, foolish and goes COMPLETELY against established and documented facts.

Also, Bush HAS, in FACT, weakened Al Queda.  Bush’s policies fueled NOTHING but a take down of Al Queda.  Al Queda is actually smaller now than it was pre 9/11.  Al Queda has shrunk, NOT grown since then.  Might do you well to actually look at the established, documented facts so you won’t look like the ignorant, chest-thumping A-hole you accuse conservatives of being.

Oh, and by the way, thanks for proving how you idiot liberals COMPLETELY and UTTERLY ignore well established, documented facts.  How do these documented and incontrovertible facts escape you morons?

You know what.  Against my better judgment, I will respond to this particular post of yours for the utter lunacy that it is.

First, anything that discredits the Bible is automatically ridiculously illogical.  There are NO hypocrisies or contradictions within the Bible whatsoever.  The ONLY people who make that utterly foolish claim are COMPLETE and UTTER imbeciles.  Your ignorant assumption that there are plenty proves ONLY your own total idiocy.  The website evilbible.com has NO valid points behind it whatsoever because ALL that site does is make one outright lie after another.  There is NOTHING truthful at that site.  The site does NOT use Biblical verses to prove its points.  It uses out of context and misquoted verses to attack the Bible and Christians for something they are not.  The stories of the Bible can be open to interpretation by anyone who actually does so honestly, and idiotic Atheist sites such as evilbible.com do not.  Might do you well to realize that you are proving ONLY your own COMPLETE and UTTER idiocy with your statements, you know.

In the real world, there is NOTHING whatsoever hypocritical or contradictory within the Bible.  It takes logic to point out just how non-hypocritical and non-contradictory the Bible is.  Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who thinks the Bible is hypocritical and contradictory is COMPLETELY and UTTER illogical.

Okay.  Good bye.  Continue to live in your idiot delusion.  I will continue to live in the real world where logic and reason rules.

Cool.  So how much do you think you could make by selling a collection of these poems?

Funny – in a very sad and pathetic kind of way.

Yes, Hussein carried out despicable acts, but does that justify an invasion?  If so GeeDub felt this way then he failed short on many counts both domestic and foreign.  If he felt like this justified military action, why pick Iraq – when many other countries (Syria, Myanmar, etc) where guilty of much more horrendous acts?  Act how would DudYa or you justify the 100k+ deaths of Iraqi civilians – we wanted to protect them so we killed them? (And no, I’m not talking about dead insurgents who took up arms against American soldiers – roughly 4500 of whom are now deceased, not to mention those who were injured, or the suffering endured by their families).

Secondly – what wmd’s?  I mean, really, yes you can easily hide a biological warfare lag, but chemical and nuclear weapons?  Nope – you just can’t manufacture that stuff in your kitchen.

Thirdly, what ties to terrorists?  Don’t forget that the Hussein as a secular leader not only feared Islam as a unifying political force, but sought to quell the influence of Islam.  (See you point about his autocracies within the appropriate historical and political contexts for explication.)  In fact, on the eve of the invasion, al Qaeda considered Hussein an enemy – quess we solved that one for them, didn’t we?

Fourthly – Yeah, some Iraqis – mostly Kurds – welcomed the invasion, but gee Dick (Cheney) – where were the open arms?  Oh! Now I get it – not open arms, but open fire with their arms. 

Fifthly – so if Congress supports it it is justified?  Huh – pretty much undermines every t-bagger complaint made to date.

Sixthly, if al Qaeda is truly weakened why are they so much more prevalent across the globe now than before the invasion of Iraq?  Why have they grown in numbers? In cells?  Gained support among non-members?

Finally, you pose arguments based on facts.  Not really the same thing.  Maybe you should have stayed in skuul?

I feel your passion.  I question your intelligence. 

To say that there are NO contradictions within the Bible is beyond words.  You are obviously wearing blinders.  You clearly have been brainwashed by your own “faith” to the point where I think there is no coming back for you.  Here is a looooooong list of contradictions within the text of the Bible.  Regardless of whether or not the author(s) MEANT to say them… they are there.  Good news for you… ignorance is bliss.

http://ffrf.org/legacy/books/lfif/?t=contra

Enjoy your living hypocrisy!

Vote for Al Franken 2016!!!

I never thought about it. Jeez,it would be like selling your heart. Maybe I should just give as gifts?

SoThere would know,I’m sure…he says:..”.he’s old and knows stuff.”

Of course lately he’s been too busy to talk to me…the poop.
Januarys poem will be a rough one.
I wish I could do light hearted,but I’ve never been lighthearted,not as a child anyway.

But it still tickles me to death,OneManArmy. The banker ran a copy,he’s a Marine. He’s seen my art work,just not this side of myself…he gave me a thumbs-up!! Smiling…waving…Heh,I bought this clay bird you add water to and it depends how much you put in and I can call in all kinds of birds,it makes the most beautiful trilling music…I’m enthralled with it.

Yeah,makes you wonder about his affiliations. To my knowledge alot of these self proclaimed lovers of everybody,are the most bigoted,closet haters I’ve ever seen.

When they need help with a project,or other things, I help out.I just didn’t agree with the last paster about anything,but he was from out east where they’re of a more liberal persuasion. I was right up front with him,it was comical,he’d get flustered,start sputtering,but he couldn’t refute my arguements either.

They don’t mind,everybody knows me around here,they said they’d take me anyway they could get me…Chuckles.

They have a church in the town that has a really swell preacher,you should of heard him preaching at the cemetaries on the 4th,and Memorial Day!And 11/11.
He’s a watcher of Glenns,the Blackrobe Brigaid.

He makes ya want to get up and shake it! He preaches about what’s happening today,put in context,with Bibical times. Makes me want to attend his church-wonder if they’re ready for me? I like a good holy roller preacher,I’m from the south originally. Smiling

True Freedom isn’t doing anything you desire — doing anything you
desire is Licentiousness.  True Freedom is doing that which is right and
good, lest you become enslaved to your desires.  Enslavement is not Freedom — although there are many that are confused and are unable to differentiate between the two.

We are to tolerate wrong because each of us does wrong, but we are not to permit or give consent to wrong.

Just as with the Nobel Peace Prize, the wisdom that can develop with time is not evident with Mr. Obama’s assessment.  Though he may deceived into trying, Obama cannot judge himself.

mt pastor does the same thing. half the time i not ready for you but i do learn something.

both my pastors think that is the schools teaching half truths about the bible. the progs are in the church. i will stick around ontil my pastor gets canned or retires because their is no telling what we will get in todays world. it reminds me of preworld war 2 Gremmany were their were no morals and people just did what feels right not thinking at all.

Are you kidding me, 69mil?  There are so many outright lies in your posts that it is flat out ridiculous for me to explain to you what the DOCUMENTED facts show, but here goes.  This one post of yours alone has at least 9 outright lies that I counted.  I will address your outright lies one at a time.  Pay attention.  Maybe you will actually learn something.

First, Bush picked Iraq because Saddam Hussein tortured his own people, most Iraqi’s begged us to topple Hussein’s regime, and Hussein had very well documented ties to terrorism.  Also, the 100,000 deaths of Iraqi civilians were NOT killed by the US or Bush.  They were killed by Iraqi insurgents.  Documented FACT there, son.  Look into it.  The Iraqi deaths blamed on the US and Bush are the insurgent.  You know, the ones we were actually aiming for.

Second, there is actually documented evidence that Hussein hid the WMDs in Syria.  We never searched everywhere, you know.  Boy, this proves that you are naive as well as stupid.

Third, what ties to terrorism?  What kind of an idiot must you be to even ask such an idiotic question?  Hussein was NEVER EVER a secular leader and NEVER once feared Islam as a unifying force.  It is a very well known and very well documented FACT, documented by EVERY SINGLE terrorist and Muslim expert on the ENTIRE planet that Saddam Hussein not only backed terrorist activities, but he backed specifically Islamic terrorist activities.  Oh, and by the way, Al Queda NEVER once thought of Iraq as an enemy.  Where do you even get such a lie from?  Why do these documented facts leave morons such as yourself?  That’s at least 2 outright lies from you right there.

Fourthly, actually the vast majority of Iraqis begged us to invade in order to topple the Hussein regime.  The VAST MAJORITY of them welcomed the invasion.  Another documented FACT that you outright lie about.

Fifthly, it doesn’t undermine anything the Tea Party complaints made, at all.  The Tea Party complained about Obama’s war on Libya specifically because it wasn’t authorized by Congress.  Gee, will you look at that.  Another bogus lie on your part.

Sixthly, Al Queda is NOT more prevalent across the globe right now than it was before 9/11.  Seriously, where do you even get such an outright lie at?  Nearly EVERY SINGLE terrorist expert on the planet has stated, quite emphatically I might add, that Al Queda is LESS prevalent across the globe right now than it was before 9/11.  Nearly EVERY SINGLE terrorist expert on the globe has testified to the fact that Al Queda has fallen and NOT grown in numbers.  Those same terrorist experts also have testified to the fact that Al Queda has lost support among non-members.  I seriously have to wonder what kind of an idiot you are to have an opinion that flies in the face of what the actual terrorist experts have stated time and time again?  3 more lies on your part there.  I will note for you now that some estimates put the number of Al Queda terrorists right now at NO MORE than a few hundred.  Whereas before 9/11, there were several thousand.  I guess a few hundred is a bigger number than several thousand in your eyes, now.  Thanks for proving the stupidity of the left, there.  Since when did 100 become bigger than 1000, moron?

Finally, I pose arguments based on facts because the very well documented facts prove my arguments as the right arguments.  You pose arguments based on outright lies and slanderous comments.  Maybe you should have stayed in “skuul.”

I certainly don’t feel your idiotic passion.  However, I certainly do question the intelligence of someone like you who has so far posted NOTHING but outright lies that fly in the face of EVERY documented fact in existence.

Okay, before I leave you, I have to laugh at your idiocy.  You have ignored so many documented facts that it is unbelievable ANYONE would even take you seriously.  I will only post to you again if you actually put some documented facts in your posts.  You see, unlike you, I did post documented facts.  ONLY thing I’ve seen from you are blatant lies that completely ignore documented facts.  You’re right on one thing, however.  Posting arguments based on facts, like I do, is not the same as posting arguments based on outright lies, like you do.

There.  I caught you in at least 9 outright lies.  Post more lies if you want.  Unless you start posting some cold hard facts like I did, I will NOT respond.  I won’t take the time to post to ignorant comments that blatantly ignore very well documented facts that have been very well documented since before 9/11 even.  Oh, by the way.  Go back to “skuul” and develop a REAL education, please.  It is clear that you suffer from a lack of any REAL intelligence.  Though the “skuul” you went to was probably part of that problem.  Good bye and good riddance.  You left wing retards never cease to amaze me for how stupid you idiots are.

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Another Atheist website.  Will wonders never cease.  The fact that that website is out ONLY to attack Christians automatically discredits it as a source.  Again, I say, the contradictions exist ONLY to COMPLETE and TOTAL idiots who don’t have a single idea what context is and who struggle with reading comprehension.

Okay, had to respond due to the complete idiocy of the link you provided.  It was almost as bad as the evilbible.com link, ALMOST.  What other ignorant links will you provide?  Again, Atheist links that were made ONLY to attack Christians will end up with NOTHING but people laughing in your face for how STUPID you just proved yourself to be.  Oh, and by the way, it’s sad that the actual FACTs have disproven EVERY SINGLE one of the supposed contradictions on that website, and yet morons like you still believe them to be actual contradictions.  Try again.  Next time, I will only post to you when you post another irrelevant and outrageously illogical website because you no doubt will do so again.  However, it will only be to laugh in your face for your COMPLETE and UTTER stupidity.

Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who claims supposed contradictions exist in the Bible just proved themselves to be COMPLETE and TOTAL morons who have no clue whatsoever about context and who have no reading comprehension skills whatsoever.

I will leave you with this.

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Oh, by the way, you are an idiot, and you continue to prove it with your idiotic, illogical, discredited, ignorant, and irrelevant websites that fly in the face of logic, common sense, facts, and reality itself.

Good bye.  Have fun living in your irrelevant ignorance.  One more thing, I will take freedom of religion over the preposterous freedom from religion any day.  Nothing from the Freedom from Religion Foundation can EVER be regarded as factual.  They are an ignorant foundation who are out to attack ALL religions, in particular Christianity.  Yet, you expect them to actually be taken seriously with thinking individuals.

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Well, you can do what you want to do with it.  If it were me, however, I’d see just how much people are willing to pay for it.  Nothing wrong with making a bit of extra cash on the side, you know.  This is the United States of America, after all, and not Cuba.  There’s nothing wrong with making some money here if you can.

i want to join you i need a good laugh. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

barbara, Ryan, I can’t say that I’ve ever had any gay friends myself, but I have met some gay people who I got along with just fine.  I’ve even personally saw one homosexual who did a complete 180 and became straight.  He had a very inspirational message of his own to tell.  I don’t hate people for being black, Asian, homosexual, Jew, or even Mexican.  I get along fine with ALL of them.  The only people I don’t get along fine with are liberal morons who don’t have a clue what they are ever talking about such as the resident idiots here.  Heck, I even get along fine with Hindus and Buddhists.  There was even a follower of the Eckankar religion that I’ve made friends with in the past.  And that religion isn’t exactly a Christian religion, though many of the beliefs do intersect.  Since I go by the philosophy of loving everyone, even idiot liberals as strange as that is, how could I possibly be a bigot?

Ryan, it gives me a new idea.  Every time these idiots post a ridiculously idiotic and illogical statement, or post an irrelevant website, we should comment back with nothing more than a laugh in their faces for the stupidity that they bring.  Might even be better than talking around them.  LOL  Even 69mil, who is probably the same idiot anyway, is blatantly lying and ignoring documented facts.  I think I’ll do just that the next time around.

sounds like a plan because we blood sucking baby soul eating evil right wing Christians have to cover are tracks. LOL!

shocker!

Hey.  Baby souls taste so good, though.  LOL

Anyway, on a serious note, these liberal loons can never cover their tracks with actual facts.  They, in all honesty, deserve nothing better than being laughed at for the ignoramuses that they prove themselves to be time and time again.

Indeed, Ryan.  He must love the myth of Clinton’s supposed surplus.  It’s too bad for him that all one needs to do is look at the national debt throughout Clinton’s administration to disprove that supposed surplus.  The national debt went up EVERY SINGLE year Clinton was in office.  This fact tends to get overlooked by idiot liberals who still believe Clinton balanced the budget.  Yet, it is this fact that proves that there really was no surplus whatsoever.  It was just a liberal government hiding the real debts this country owed in another book.  There’s a name for that kind of work, you know.  It’s called fraud.  All this was actually documented back in 2000, even before George Bush took over the Presidency.

i just told people about him at the TFC we might get back up. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! are plans of taken over the earth is almost their. they could never win with the truth so the lie you should go to the story about Glenn VS new york and see some real loons their to. one has a web site about some moron crack pot idea about Palin.

In what respect has he morally bankrupted America? What are you referring to?

I’m sure there’s quite a few websites out there attacking Palin.  As if writing a few notes on your hand makes one dumber than having a 100% reliance on teleprompters.  When it comes to intelligence, Palin is, without a doubt, heads and shoulders above Obama.  At least she knows what she stands for and has proven she doesn’t need a teleprompter to speak.  The left could never win with the truth simply because the truth discredits them on the outset.  The truth proves the left to be the liars and hypocrites they are.

you should join the fun look for Victor Tiffany. the guy is a bigger moron then the idiot.

WOW! Where to start???

Yes, Hussein did despicable things to his people, but if we take Bush at his own words, that was not reason for the invasion.  The primary reason he offered was the threat of wmd’s.  That is a FACT.  To say that you know what was going through his mind is a guess (or perhaps a rationalization?).

Second, very few Iraqi’s ASKED us, much less SUPPORTED us in the invasion.  That is a FACT.  It is also a FACT that MOST of the those insurgents you keep talking about (especially in the early days) were in fact IRAQI’S. Darn those pesky facts!

Third, well over 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths have been documented as resulting from US actions! Your desire to believe otherwise does not alter reality, just your perception of it!

Fourth, Hussein did NOT use Islam to unify Iraqi tribes and ethnic groups and was never a devout Muslim. In FACT, many of the autocracies he committed (Basra and Iran, for example) were against Islamist groups challenging his rule.  Was he right or justified. NO! But he was fighting an uprising in which the participants were in part either Islamists or unified by a common belief in Islam (two very different things, mind you).

Fifth, although some officials in the government were friendly to al Qaeda (mostly the handful of Islamists), Hussein himself never had ties to them not did the Iraqi government have and official ties.  In FACT, al Qaeda considered him to a significant threat to Islamists and therefore strongly opposed his regime. In FACT, those allegations came primarily from within the Bush administration – and were later undermined by a variety of outside experts, the 9/11 Commission, and even the Defense Department.  Yep, those are the FACTS.

Sixth, it is also a FACT that al Qaeda was geographically and politically limited to Afghanistan and a handful of other countries prior to the invasion.  It is a FACT that al Qaeda now operates across the globe, although (thankfully) with decreasing support from their height a few years ago.  To say that they are less prevalent today than on the eve of the invasion is simply ridiculous!

Seventh, if you claim that anyhing approved by Congress is legitimate, then what the heck are you t-baggers so mad about? TARP was apporved by Congress (that’s a FACT) – so according to your “logic,” it must be ok.  The bailouts?  Approved by Congress.  Health care reform?  Those are FACTS.  Here’s another one: according to you, the invasion of Iraq was justified because it was approved by Congress.  So, since these other decisions were approved by Congress… (I’ll let you wrestle with that one)

Your “FACTS” are not really FACTS at all.  They are misinformation, suppositions, conclusions, distortions, and, generally speaking, the rantings of a madman.  Just because you believe something doesn’t make it true.  Just ask the voices in your head!

you got that right.

because we are Christians atleast thatis what the idiot would say. my friend hates Obama to. what you say des happen i don’t think it is a gen problem but the ones i meet were nice people.

Where do you get off deciding what is right or wrong?  Why must two people who want to get married need consent from you?  We’re talking about people that you don’t know, will probably never meet or ever have any impact on your life.  What does the Bible say about judging people?  Is that not what you are doing?  If you are a TRUE Christian… let others do what they will and let God judge them.

Regardless of how you choose to spin the budget under Clinton (which was the best it had been in a long time)… our economy thrived under him.  Those were good times and he is a brilliant man and politician.

this one was the weirdist one i seen. take a look.http://biggestcoverup.blogspot.com/ the dumbist thing i seen.

Well, Ryan, genetics does actually play a role, but it isn’t as big a role as liberal idiots claim it is.  No one on this planet, and that includes homosexuals, is defined by their genetics, not really.  There’s much more to it than that.  The environment has proven to be a much bigger indicator than genetics ever could.  The environment has proven to change everything about a person, including things such as one’s eye color and, yes, even one’s sexual orientation.  I know it happens because I’ve seen it happen first hand.

The “facts”?  Where are these “facts” that disprove every suggested contradiction???  It is easy to mention that they exist.  It’s not so easy to prove it.  If you want to go through and disprove each one yourself… I will gladly take you seriously.  Until then… you shouldn’t dismiss things just because you don’t want them to be true and they disrupt the little, cloudy bubble you live in.  I have met and talked with many Christians over the years who were reasonable and intelligent enough to admit that they can’t explain everything.  They admit that the Bible has flaws and should be used only as a baseline for moral living.  These are the people that DON’T get called “nutjob”, “delusional” or “dangerous”.  YOU are one of the people that do.

didn’t know that stuff.

I can say only one thing to your disproven lies disproven time and time again and that is this.

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You are a LIAR.  EVERYTHING you said is an outright LIE and proven to be such by EVERY SINGLE fact on the ENTIRE planet.  EVERY SINGLE one of your outright LIEs have been disproven time and time again by not just me but by the ACTUAL experts who have actually researched the actual facts.  Try again, moron.  Good bye.

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Well, Ryan, it does help to actually look at the scientific research behind homosexuality.  I’ve read about many such studies that have shown quite conclusively that environment plays a much bigger role in homosexuality than anything else.  If genetics is all there is, than in cases of identical twins, both twins should become homosexual 100% of the time.  This, however, isn’t the case.  In fact, one particular study I read about a couple years back proved that in cases of identical twins, both twins were homosexual in less than half of all the cases of identical twins.  The study proved that genetics played a role because there were more cases of both twins becoming homosexual than those who were not twins whatsoever, but it also proved that the environment played an even bigger role than genetics.  That’s a fact liberal idiots tend to leave out.  What liberal idiots say flies in the face of the findings of scientific studies like that one.

Now, I will be clear.  I have nothing against homosexuals here.  However, that’s just what the facts have shown in various such studies.

Now, watch all the liberal loons on this website call me a homophobe for stating the results of several actual scientific studies regarding homosexuality.  3, 2, 1, go.

Ryan, that website is pretty dumb.  It’s the same type of website the Idiot would provide.  That website automatically discredits itself with its flat out ridiculously idiotic statements.

Wow – you’re either a writer for Beck or a troll.  I’m really not sure which, but I hope it’s the latter.  I would really hate to think that anybody is more out of touch with reality than Beck and his ilk.

Or, I suppose you could be 8 years old and have daddy issues…

i am haveing fun with skidmark he keeps bring up Mark 10:25 so i keep bring this to him. keep telling yourself that. what Jesus was talking about is you have to put God before anything else.infact lets look at the thing you let out. infact you let out matthew 19:16-22 now a man came up to Jesus and asked ” teacher what good thing must I do to get eternal life” Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied ” there is only one who is goood. if you want to enter life, obey the ten commandments”/ you see Jesus was talking about himself when he said ” there is only one that is good” seeing how he is God as a man/ “Which ones” the man inquired Jesus replied “do not murder, do not steel, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother, and love your neighbor as yourself” /did you notice the one about steeling like you want to do with the rich hint hint. Jesus was useing the old testament law here/ “all these thing i have kept” the young man said ” what do i still lack”. Jesus answered “if you want to be perfect go sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. then come follow me” / now notice he didn’t say give it to the government so they can give it to the poor and notice how he also says follow me and seening he is the son of God./ when the young man heard this and walked away./ now we come to your part that you love to tiwt and take out of context Matthew 23 then Jesus said to his disciples ” I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to get into heaven. again i tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God./ now it does not say that the rich will not go to heaven Jesus says it is hard why we need to go to matthew 6: 24 no one can serve two masters. ether he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the the other. You cannot serve both God and money./ now lets go to the rest matthew 19: 25-30 when the disciples heard this, they were astonished and ask ” who then can be saved” Jesus look at them and said “with man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible” / notice nothing about the rich. he said man not rich men/ Peter answered him ” we have left everything to follow you! what then will there be for us?”/ and here is were you’re lie comes apart. Jesus did not say still from the poor. didn’t say the rich will burn in hell. infact no were in the old or new testament says that/ Jesus told them “i tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the son of man sits on his gloious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging twelve tribes of Israel. and everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or fathers or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inheerit eternal life. but many who are first are last and many who are last will be first” / now were does it say God hates the rich. that the rich are evil. that the rich will burn in hell. see skidmark taking things out of context can be fun but the real truth will come out and bite you in the ass. i dare you to prove me wrong bigot. it is fun when you can get them with their lie.

Oh no! The blood sucking baby soul eaters are going to take over the earth! …..LOL

Indeed.  It is fun when you get them with their lie, Ryan.  Thing is, even when you catch their lie, they are so dimwitted, that they believe their lie.  I mean, skidmark,  J. T. Idiot, 69mil, etc., all come of the same mold, proving even more that they are all very likely the same person with many sock puppets.  They all, every one of them, make the same exact outright lies over and over and over, and will testify to their outright lies to their dying breaths despite the facts that disprove every single one of their lies on the outset.  Their basically complete morons who lack any form of real intelligence.

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Never heard of the Eckankar faith,learn something new eveyday.I think these guys just like to hear their own voice.
I ‘ve often wondered if they could just hear themselves,would they still believe the stuff they spout?

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Thanks for further proving your ignorance.  Also, thanks for proving your own daddy issues and that you have the IQ of a rock.  Oh, one more thing.  Even an 8 year old could see through your outright lies using actual documented FACTs.  I mean, in your book, 100 is larger than 1000.

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Yeah,It might as well pay for it’s self. I have to think logically….’sides I get a kick out of it.A farmer,and genlewoman poet…cool.

Well, those of the Eckankar faith are actually really good people.  Not like the liberal loons on this website.  The guy I befriended a few years back who was a member of the Eckankar faith leaned left, but we got along for the most part.  We even agreed for the most part concerning Glenn Beck.  There was actually a lot we agreed on.  Eckankar is actually quite small, you know.  It’s smaller than Judaism, even.  Still, though, they do actually have a bit in common with Christians.

It’s easy to do,give the masses free rein,encourage bad behavior,no limitations or boundries,and look what you get-folks like OWS.Or people who want something for nothing-or yours.

i am done with him i told the truth and if he wants to use it to geep bashing the rich then that is his soul.

not ready for me? Am I too bold?

That would be cool.  Even these days, women have a tough time selling their books if they are just starting.  Look no further than J. K. Rowling, who used initials because many would not have taken her series seriously if they knew who she really was, for proof.  I’d probably buy your book of poems, though, if it was a price I could afford.  I’m always up for a good poem.  Used to be a major fan of Edgar Allen Poe when going through school.

Ryan, they are just lost souls.  We may banter with them and call them out for their idiocy, but nothing we will ever say will actually reach them.  I did so lightheartedly because I never expected anything to come from it.  Nothing we ever say will actually reach them because they don’t care about the truth.  They only care about dividing us as a country.  They are trolls who will come and go and come again.  They are, in truth, irrelevant.  Reality, itself, proves them to be the idiot hypocrites that they are.

I was a fan too. Up the gravel road 1 1/2 was an old school house,I went exploring and found an origonal edition of him-it’s in the library,along with other works I collected.

Unfortunately if you want to get published,the content has to sexual in nature,or graphic ie: romance.I’m having a mind blank on Rowly.
Forenics,sleuth?

I actually have two copies of the same exact edition of poems and short stories of Edgar Allen Poe at home myself.  I ended up with two copies because I bought one first, and then my grandmother gave me one later when she was getting rid of books.  Haven’t read it in years, however. She even gave me a book of Robert Frost poems.

I wouldn’t say the content has to be sexual or graphic.  I’m all for it as long as it is inspirational, and your Marine poem is exactly that.  However, many of Poe’s poems did have a romantic slant.  Heck, even The Raven had a romantic slant to it.  I really like The Bells myself.

Oh my word! I didn’t mean to imply his faith-Ekankar-liked to hear his own voice! Oops-I meant some of the posters,OneMan Army!
And yes EAP had romantic pieces,I’ll give it a try-something tragic I’m sure-hahahah.

I’m trying to remember The Bells-my memory is horrible-then out of the blue wham! It’ll come to me.
I would imagine if you found the right connections,you could do this fairly cheaply.
Jeez,where do you guys get all this energy-I’m bushed-

barbara, no worries.  I knew what you meant.  I just wanted to differentiate Eckankar from the liberal loons on this site who are only out to attack conservatives.  Though my friend did lean left, he certainly wasn’t the type to attack conservatives willy nilly without looking at ALL of the facts first.

I don’t really remember The Bells myself.  It’s been years since I’ve even read a Poe poem.  I used to have Annabel Lee memorized as a sort of extra credit in a high school English class.  Didn’t want or need the extra credit, but my class mates actually pushed me to it.  Now, I only know a line or two of it here or there simply because it has been so long ago that I last had it in mind that I basically have forgotten it.  Annabel Lee, however, was another Poe favorite of mine, and that is most definitely a romantic poem.

Yes, Beck fans, one_man_army is one of yours. 

He/she/it is a prime example of why people don’t take you seriously.

the P O S Marxists fraud will NOT be re-elected under any circumstances………and he will lose by a LANDSLIDE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I’ll look the poems up or hit the library,it would do me good to get off the farm anyway. I want snow-and there isn’t any to get me in the mood.
Will be busy posting,and making more soaps/lotions tomorrow-then I’ll drive around and deliver them.
Slap me upside the head! Thank God for No snow!
Maybe I’ll load up the hounds from h***,put ‘em in the back and crank up the music!

Smiling

Man this Discus sure is screwy today-it sends me to different places than I used to go.

Well, good luck with that.  I’m sure some snow will come your way eventually.  Had a little bit where I live about a week or 2 ago.  According to the forecast, I should get some on Saturday.  We shall see, though.

I noticed some DisqUS problems on my end, too, barbara.  It just randomly signed me out for no apparent reason.  Had to re-sign back in.

Disqus is a bit flaky from time to time. This site is bot and java intense which lend themselves to a variety of issues especially if you have your security settings turned up high. Disqus usually has a day or two a month in which it just doesn’t want to behave well…

Yep,signed me out too,then wanted me to join GBTV-I’m already a lower tier member.
Or if I hit discus I go to the Discus site,instead of posting

yes but that is why i like talking to you friend. i know you are going to tell me the truth no matter what. it who you are don’t change it. like i said talking to you a learn something new everyday.

that is what i love about my pastor he tells you how it is no matter what. i think you two would get along well.

Damn, and I bet my fortune that it would be the soulless life sucking wraiths of the liberal media.

It Figures… %^(

The most illuminating studies are those that focus on the brain. There is an actual measureable difference in a certain part of the brain structure in males and females. Homosexual males were found to have that part of the brain resemble the female brain, while female homosexuals brain resembled the male instead. There is an actual medical, physical basis. They have a theory that , for females, if the developing fetus is exposed to more than normal the amount of testosterone during a certain phase of its development, it triggers the male brain development. They have also found an interesting condition…. most female homosexuals have a ring finger that is longer than the index finger… and they know this condition stems from exposure to testosterone in utero. Now what would cause one female twin to develop a male brain and not the other? That is to be studied some more. It really is an interesting subject.

Ummm, coming from someone who works in the psych field, major depression is a mental disorder, just an fyi.

Obama was obviously counting from the bottom of a list that was optimistic.

Yes,sometimes people don’t want to see a truth,and you have to do it anyway-as long as you do it gently.

Well I’ve never been one to mince words. I wouldn’t hurt anyone deliberately,but I’ll never not tell you something if you ask me. If I don’t know I’ll tell you that too.
Sometimes honesty can be painful,but I’d rather know the truth. I’m glad your my friend too ,Ryan.

Then it lost my passwords! then I had a hacker try,smiles,
I stopped it cold,ended up pulling my battery because it froze my screen. I just backed up some dowmloads too-is that from firefox? That’s what security said I think. It’s been exciting times today.

i will be frank i don’t know much about it but i am allways open to learn more.

true so true.

i have a problem with gently i have not figure that you out yet. my pastors does come at a problem gently.

honesty is the one thing i look for in a friendship. well let face it honest people are dying in this country. it sad realy alot in my genreation they lie to make them self look like something they are not. that why over here i got one friend my age. the other one want to a deffernt state. i miss talking to her. your honesty is what i like about you the most.

i hope this works but this is my avatar story at the tfc http://youtu.be/asvKQOJZXcs he ends up dieing. the cloned him and some how put his memories into the clone realy not smart if you ask me. he bust out and goes looking for the woman that he loves to find out she was kidnap by Vider http://youtu.be/zcJLMz78KW4 this is his angery i told you about. their good books to.

More lies from the right wing media.  This is not what Obama said; as usual, Glenn Beck lies!

First, note that he was actually asked about his accomplishments, which he did a decent job of listing. But then notice the offending sentence:I would put our legislative and foreign policy accomplishments in our first two years against any president — with the possible exceptions of Johnson, F.D.R., and Lincoln — just in terms of what we’ve gotten done in modern history.

Where in there did he say he was “the fourth best president”?

http://duanegraham.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/how-anti-obama-memes-are-made/

Implied Vicky33. It is a device of rhetoric. Anyone can see it except you… Thus, you are an idiot VIcky33

In addition, unless you are willing to concede that he was indicating he was the 40th best president… You are such an idiot!

and this moron said he was a Republican. HAHAHAHAHAHA! a crazy lefty by any other name is still a crazy lefty.

He’s a Lincolnian Republican… If he’s anything he’s a soup sandwich!

LOL! i was going to say he was crazier than then a monkey on crack but then i would be insalting the crack monkeies.

Uhm, coming from someone who actually knows what depression is, major depression is NOT a mental disorder.  Just an fyi.  Sorry, but you are ill informed there, buddy.

Well, at least it’s not as bad as the DisqUS problems I had last month when the comments on these pages refused to even show up.

At different times it can be a capricious site…

Yeah, go easy on the monkeys… And 23 is the number that comes after 22 and before 24. Some of these people are just nuckin’ futz!

Sandie, your last statement there does tell us that there’s more to it than genetics.  Now, I’m not going to go against the studies and say genetics doesn’t play a part because it most certainly does.  However, we should not forget about the environmental aspects, either, that have also shown to play a major role in one’s developing sexual orientation.  The fact that one identical twin becomes gay while the other identical twin remains straight tells us there’s more to the issue than just genetics.

Ryan, they are probably 1 in the same person, you know. Wouldn’t surprise me if he agreed with himself.

Anyway, what he did with the number 23 can be done with any number on the planet.  I did so with the number 21.  Thank of any number, any number at all, and you can do it, as well, the exact same way as he did.  I actually thought The Number 23 was a pretty decent film, myself.  Not my favorite film, but it’s certainly not the worst I’ve seen.  However, that’s all it was.  It was nothing more than a film.  Any number you can imagine can be manipulated in any possible way you can imagine.  That’s the science of numbers for you, lol.

Heh!
WE got some snow! cool…in the mood….in the mood..

Now put on some moody blues music and I’m all set!

The Lawyer for the copyrights is calling at noon!
Making me nervious.

Actually,I kina shaking in my boots!!!.

I do not decide what is right and wrong.

People do not need my consent and it is not my consent to give.

We cannot judge people, we can and must judge actions.

Ezekiel 3:18 and following:

18 If I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’
and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his
wicked way, in order to save his life, that wicked man shall die in his
iniquity; but his blood I will require at your hand. 19 But if you warn
the wicked, and he does not turn from his wickedness, or from his wicked
way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you will have saved your life.
20 Again, if a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits
iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die; because
you have not warned him, he shall die for his sin, and his righteous
deeds which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood I will
require at your hand. 21 Nevertheless if you warn the righteous man not
to sin, and he does not sin, he shall surely live, because he took
warning; and you will have saved your life.”

Warning offered.

Well, when it comes to lies, trust the expert Victor Victoria I always say.

Remember last time you were here, you got kicked off this site for threatening me?
Just in case you forgot, I saved it for you.

Here’s a sample of handiwork from the mind of the great Victor Tiffany:

“Come by my office; you can have a very brief chat with my lawyers:
Smith and Wesson.
Tip: call the county morgue first for a pick up.”

And don’t leave out this classic:

“I’ll cut your face off and shove it up your ass.”

I certainly hope you don’t forget those threats, but if you do I will be
sure to remind you.

Don’t try to back out of this, I do not take being threatened lightly and
you can’t lie your way out of this. I have you dead to rights, and this much is
clear, you are a dangerously disturbed man and your narcissism has gone
untreated for much too long. You should be committed involuntarily. Maybe you
will be. I’m not about to let this go, there will be no forgive and forget for
this.

Bye for now, but don’t forget, you tried to intimidate the wrong man.

I’m done dealing with morons that have nothing better to do with their worthless lives than to follow me around the Internet harassing me with nonsense, lies and wacky bulls$%t. I’ll let Karl Rogers, author of Debunking Glenn Beck tell the truth that will go over your heads:

The purpose of the propaganda from the right, such as disseminated by Beck and others, is to further alienate the nationalistic conservative and libertarian rightwingers from any conception of good government in order to disavow any possibility of democracy. Hence all other media is misrepresented as “liberal”, the federal government is misrepresented as being involved in some Marxist conspiracy, and corporatism is equated with freedom. The fact of the matter is that multinational corporations have taken over all three branches of the U.S. government. They are transforming the Republic into a corporate-state. They have already defeated the Left Opposition; now they are defeating the Right Opposition. Beck et al. are directing their propaganda against the conservative working and middle classes. They are deceiving them from the fact that they have been duped, in order to suppress any resistance from the armed proportion of the citizenry, which is the proportion that the corporatists are actually afraid of rising up in rebellion. Hence, the purpose of the propaganda is to misdirect the blame and encourage conservatives and libertarians to either vote Republican or stay out of political life altogether. “Go back to your churches, homes, and neighborhoods, because government is a lost cause and democratic participation is anarchism and mob-rule.” That’s the message.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Debunking-Glenn-Beck/108099032602065

I’m done dealing with morons that have nothing better to do with their worthless lives than to follow me around the Internet harassing me with nonsense, lies and wacky bulls$%t. I’ll let Karl Rogers, author of Debunking Glenn Beck tell the truth that will go over your heads:

The purpose of the propaganda from the right, such as disseminated by Beck and others, is to further alienate the nationalistic conservative and libertarian rightwingers from any conception of good government in order to disavow any possibility of democracy. Hence all other media is misrepresented as “liberal”, the federal government is misrepresented as being involved in some Marxist conspiracy, and corporatism is equated with freedom. The fact of the matter is that multinational corporations have taken over all three branches of the U.S. government. They are transforming the Republic into a corporate-state. They have already defeated the Left Opposition; now they are defeating the Right Opposition. Beck et al. are directing their propaganda against the conservative working and middle classes. They are deceiving them from the fact that they have been duped, in order to suppress any resistance from the armed proportion of the citizenry, which is the proportion that the corporatists are actually afraid of rising up in rebellion. Hence, the purpose of the propaganda is to misdirect the blame and encourage conservatives and libertarians to either vote Republican or stay out of political life altogether. “Go back to your churches, homes, and neighborhoods, because government is a lost cause and democratic participation is anarchism and mob-rule.” That’s the message.

I’m done dealing with morons that have nothing better to do with their worthless lives than to follow me around the Internet harassing me with nonsense, lies and wacky bulls$%t. I’ll let Karl Rogers, author of Debunking Glenn Beck tell the truth that will go over your heads:

The purpose of the propaganda from the right, such as disseminated by Beck and others, is to further alienate the nationalistic conservative and libertarian rightwingers from any conception of good government in order to disavow any possibility of democracy. Hence all other media is misrepresented as “liberal”, the federal government is misrepresented as being involved in some Marxist conspiracy, and corporatism is equated with freedom. The fact of the matter is that multinational corporations have taken over all three branches of the U.S. government. They are transforming the Republic into a corporate-state. They have already defeated the Left Opposition; now they are defeating the Right Opposition. Beck et al. are directing their propaganda against the conservative working and middle classes. They are deceiving them from the fact that they have been duped, in order to suppress any resistance from the armed proportion of the citizenry, which is the proportion that the corporatists are actually afraid of rising up in rebellion. Hence, the purpose of the propaganda is to misdirect the blame and encourage conservatives and libertarians to either vote Republican or stay out of political life altogether. “Go back to your churches, homes, and neighborhoods, because government is a lost cause and democratic participation is anarchism and mob-rule.” That’s the message.

Every word you write comes across like a high school drop out.

Soup sandwich?  There you go again, projecting your self-image onto others.  GET A F$%KING LIFE LOSER!

First, tell your back-door buddies why you wrote, “while you may find me a reprehensible creature for defending such a wretched individual such as Beck,….”  F$%king hypocrite!

Of course, when you have a world view that is insane, the sane is “crazy.”  Anyone who takes Beck as his word is someone to ignore and laugh at.  Anyone who calls a man by “Vicky” belongs on the elementary school play ground.  

Feel real mature, don’t you, self-deluded prick!

Well, sometimes I can come off as too abrasive. If you are-then people won’t hear your words or your message,Ryan.
I think sometimes I’m at war with myself-I have very strong opinions,but I don’t like strife either.
I prefer to avoid it,but you have to make a stand on your principals, or what are you as a person,or a Nation?

Our President latest press conference saying the House Republican should go along with this compromise that they ‘re just playing politics and obama say he care about little people budget! To me he just slinging the BS for the gullible lace kool aid drinkers !!! He didn’t care about their budget when he put moturium on drilling for oil and natural gas ,increase the cost of heating oil and gasoline for theirs cars and their jobs,plus he try to stop pipeline from Canada !!! He don’t care about the budget of people who use of electric heat or air condition by his Czars regulations he shutting down sixty or more electric coal plants and  to have brown outs in winters and sky rocketing electric cost ,which he stated in campaign for his election! Do obama really think people believe in his words that he care about their budgets or is it his only care about to bring our country down to a third world communist state ????

hay Vicky i think your IQ drop 30 points just with that. next you are going to tell me that Glenn Beck is a green alien from Mars.

what the matter Vicky can’t prove your lies.

Another well reasoned retort Vicky33… Keep it up…

Hyperbole and out of context Vicky33. You’re such an idiot!

Then we can count of not seeing you around here anymore, right?

You’re such an idiot!

Then we can count of not seeing you around here anymore, right?

You’re such an idiot!

How many times have you leveled this threat? 200, 300, 400 times?

Why don’t you show us how much honor you have and just leave like you keep threatening to do?

Duck, dodge and spin all you want, Victor Victoria, I have the goods on you and you know it. You are a liar, and a poor example of a human being – I’ve got the proof and you can’t lie your way out of it because too many people know it.

Lie your way out of this if you can –

Handiwork from the mind of the great Victor Tiffany:

“Come by my office; you can have a very brief chat with my lawyers: Smith and Wesson.

Tip: call the county morgue first for a pick up.”

And don’t leave out this classic:

“I’ll cut your face off and shove it up your ass.”

I certainly hope you don’t forget those threats, but if you do I will be sure to remind you.

Don’t try to back out of this, I do not take being threatened lightly and you can’t lie your way out of this. I have you dead to rights, and this much is clear, you are a dangerously disturbed man and your narcissism has gone untreated for much too long. You should be committed involuntarily. Maybe you will be. I’m not about to let this go, there will be no forgive and forget for this. You tried to intimidate the wrong man, and it isn’t going away. EVER.

You were banned from this site for those comments, and after you sneaked back in, you were banned again.

Banned twice, soon to be thrice.

Christmas is coming!

Then we can count of not seeing you around here anymore, right?

You’re such an idiot!

How many times have you leveled this threat? 200, 300, 400 times?

Why don’t you show us how much honor you have and just leave like you keep threatening to do?

When are the personal threats going to start back up Vicky33?

And, since you were admittedly banned, why have you decided to ignore the policies of this website?

Vicky33, it is apparent that you are completely out of your mind…

Oh, no, he proves he lies all the time…

who isn’t at war with themself. i feel like i am war with myself all the time.

i think Vicky IQ will drop again when he comes back.

AMEN!!!!

So, you’re telling us you’d rather believe the proven to be outright lies from idiotic fools like Karl Rogers over the proven to be factually accurate statements from honest individuals like Glenn Beck.  Thanks for proving for ALL the world to see that your IQ doesn’t even reach double digits.  ALL you stated here is that you are done dealing with yourself.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ha what a fool.

hay moron do you think like this http://misfitpolitics.co/2011/12/a-lesson-in-liberal-logic-3/ here is a good christmas song made for morons like you http://youtu.be/_v_eTSpAjNo oh look i found you’re God Obama National Anthem http://youtu.be/l46t_nrySg4 oh poor Vicky got his head so far up his ass that he has to make shit up to make himself feel inportent. what the matter Vicky can’t deffend you’re pot full propaganda. poor Vicky you’re God is not getting back in. poor commie a mean Vicky can’t handle people who know more. why don’t you go to media matters were nuts with you’re IQ level i geussing it went down to -34.

i hate to tell you this but you’re God  Karl Rogers is full of shit.

don’t make fun of his God Karl Rogers you will hurt his feelings. next his God will proclaim that Glenn Beck is a green alien from mars he to suck are brains.

And proud of it.  At least, I proved myself with actual FACTs, something you always failed to do. At least, I understand that 1000 is greater than 100.  You seem to think that the few hundred Al Queda members now, which is the estimated size of Al Queda an estimate done by actual terrorist experts, is some how a larger number than the several thousand strong that it was before 9/11, again an estimate done by the exact same terrorist experts.  You proved that you fail at not just the actual FACTs, but simple math, as well. Good job proving your idiocy.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, and as I told J. T. Idiot, you are a lying, hypocritical, idiot.

Ryan, you mean Glenn Beck isn’t a green alien from Mars?  You mean Beck is actually a normal human being?  And here I thought Glenn Beck was moonlighting as the Martian Manhunter.  Oh, wait. He’s blue isn’t he, black if you are a Smallville fan. lol  Just to be on the safe side for other readers here, I will note the sarcasm in the rhetorical questions being asked in the beginning of this post.

On a more serious note, Ryan, I really don’t care about the feelings of people who take liberal hacks like Karl Rogers seriously.  I mean, if you want to believe lies made up by a liberal hack, it only proves what kind of an idiot this Vicky character is.  He should go find his number 23 friend and go have a drink.  They work well together with their utter lunacy.

to show how uninportent Karl Rogers is i don’t even know who he is. was hw named after Karl Marxs? has he ever been on the news or did some inportent. no i didn’t think so. HAHA! i wonder what nut house they came out of.

I see that you are as welcome here as I.  Apparently it’s against God’s will to claim that Glenn Beck isn’t an angel sent from Heaven to save us from ourselves.  Before butting heads with these people, keep in mind… theirs are full of rocks.

Glenn is closer to Martian than honest individual.  Glenn is the puppetmaster for the intelligence-challenged.

“I’ve got five more years of stuff to do. But not only saving this country from a great depression. Not only saving the auto industry. But putting in place a system in which we’re gonna start lowering health care costs and you’re never gonna go bankrupt because you get sick or somebody in your family gets sick. ”
So.
#1 BO assumes he will be re-elected
#2. There is no measure that he saved us from a “great” depression.. but top economics experts have said he has prolonged recovery from the recession with his policies (no showing of ego there, eh?)
#3. Saving the auto industry – picking winners and losers which is not what our government is supposed to be doing. It would have ironed out had they been allowed to go through bankruptcy. The auto industry used bail out money to pay off their loan from us. This was nothing to brag about!
#4. A system that’s gonna lower health care costs? It has cause the costs to start RISING already and they are expected to increase much more when the program is in full swing. It has also caused economic & employment problems because businesses cannot afford to pay for health care for current employes and won’t be able to hire more. Some businesses are going belly up from this program.
The rest of his brags are mostly questionable. His ego doesn’t let him understand that just because he got a big thing accomplished, does not mean it is a good thing.

Don’t be too hard on him.  He’s just upset about being cut from the Special Olympic coloring team.

their is know way he going to know what that even says it has to much facts and no lies in it.

“Have you come here for forgiveness?
Have you come to raise the dead?
Have you come here to play Jesus…
to the lepers in your head?
Did I ask too much?
More than a lot?
You gave me nothing,
now it’s all I’ve got.
We’re one, but we’re not the same.
Well we hurt eachother, then we do it again.
You say love is a temple.
Love the higher law.
Love is a temple.
Love the higher law.
You asked me to enter… but then you
made me crawl.
And I can’t be holding on… to what you’ve got…
when all you’ve got is hurt”.

-Bono

Ryan, he did write a book attacking Glenn Beck by making up stories about Glenn Beck.  That’s pretty much all he’s known for that I know of, anyway.  I actually wouldn’t doubt it if he were named for Karl Marx.  Parents could have been liberal hippies when they had him.

A true homosexual is created through medical, physical condition be it combination of genetics, hormone exposure in utero etc. that cause a difference in brain structure development. Someone predisposed to the condition may, through environmental influence, repress the condition, thus the difference in identical twins. Are they fooling themselves? maybe. Identical twins with the same genetics that have different placentas may have a slightly different exposure to hormones available from the mother. They are not sure why, but they do know that the brain anomaly is the major factor. In other words, one does not “choose” to be homosexual any more than one chooses to be born with a deformed foot, one just is.

Isn’t it past your bedtime, little one?

Sandie, those aren’t what the studies I’ve read say.  As I said, I won’t deny the genetic element.  However, studies have shown that they, at least some of them, can actually choose to be homosexual.  Also, I do realize that brain structure element.  There are, however, many environmental factors that can alter one’s brain chemistry in such a way.  Stress has been known to do just that, you know.

Anyone that considers Palin to be an intelligent person must be clinically brain dead. 
The moment she couldn’t name one magazine or newspaper she reads to keep up with the news… she was done.  She is even too stupid to make something up.  Good riddance to her.

Yes… I had a stressful day today… now I’m gay.  Damn the luck! 

Hey you a funny bloke tonight!  Can you come up with something new though with Palin. I mean she’s not my favorite person, she’s also not as hubris as someone I know.   Like the song got any more?

Karl Rogers should keep out of politics, especially when he has his own biases, and stick with his own version of psychology which is based on the individuals personal experience of the world around him. He is a very opinionated man with very opinionated writings who I wouldn’t give any heed to. He is almost as biased and crazy as you are.

all i know is most i meet are nice people. i seen some change from that. the brain is complex and who knows for sure why it happens. the way i see it they respect me and i will respect them and that goes for everyone i know not just homosexuals.

i geuss that is what it takes to become a God of the left. now that i think about it is that the book Glenn was makening fun of some time back.

Same here, Ryan.  As long as they respect me, I will respect them.  Some do manage to change.  Others do not.  The depends entirely on the individual.

Karl Rogers should keep out of politics, especially when he has his own biases, and stick with his own version of psychology which is based on the individuals personal experience of the world around him. He is a very opinionated man with very opinionated writings who I wouldn’t give any heed to. He is almost as biased and crazy as you are. … maybe almost is an unnecessary word.

Could be.  Don’t recall what book that was.  There are a lot of books that attack Beck, you know.

Karl needs to stick with his version of psychology and stop assuming and then stating as if it was fact, what other people are thinking or doing.

Can’t you tell when Benny is being facetious? Don’t continue to be stupid.

No foul language now Victor.

good for you.

anyone that considers Obama to be an intelligent person must be clinically brain dead. the moment he couldn’t name one magazine or newspaper he reads to keep up with the news… he was done. he is even too stupid to make something up good riddance to him.

LOL  Good one, Ryan.

have you drop out of the stupid tree?

you know talking to you’re self is a sign that you lost you’re mind but seeing how it is only the idiot it explains allot.

i figure i would turn his lie around on his God Obama to see how he likes it.

I’m sure all of us here have done that on a few occasions.  SoThere seems to have made a career out of it, lol.

It’s the narcissistic ego thing … he is above the rules, what he has to say is important – it will change other people to what he wants, he gets to ‘strut his stuff’ (or so he thinks), he gets attention. It is delusion.

Victor Victoria, the sewer that walks like a man – uh sort of…

Why don’t you tell us why you wrote:

“Come by my office; you can have a very brief chat with my lawyers:
Smith and Wesson.

Tip: call the county morgue first for a pick up.”

And don’t leave out this classic:

“I’ll cut your face off and shove it up your ass.”

I certainly hope you don’t forget those threats, but if you do I will be
sure to remind you.

They are the reason you got FIRED off this site twice, and you are working on a trifecta of revocation of your posting privileges.

By now you have so many flags on you that I am surprised you can get up off the floor.

I have to say when I think of Obama, his policies, and anyone who agrees with all of them the song from Pink Floyd – COMFORTABLY NUMB – comes to mind.

Are you saying Vicky is conceited? No, say it ain’t so!!!

that and i have nothing better to do.

Well, remember, I did it myself a few nights ago.  It’s a good way to pass the time.  Just don’t let his idiocy begin to rub off on you, lol.

oh look the two biggist biggots of the left found eachother. how cute!

tell me if your done with morons then why are you still talking about Karl Rogers? see Vicky i hate to tell you this you are the only moron here. even strtlk can debate better than you. IQ drop 20 points not good for you Vicky.

Another insightful gem from your poison pen – from your own bugsite –

“I like to tell people that Glenn Beck introduced me to interactive television. I’d watch The Glenn Beck Show on Fox News; and, when he’d say something I knew to be flat out wrong, I’d jump up out of my chair and yell, “That’s bulls**t!””

The only problems with that are (1), you don’t have any relationship with truth and everyone knows it, (2), this disclosure makes you look like the complete narcissist you are and (3), your delusional self image is as bankrupt as your character.

Most of us know you too well for you to pull off this stupid stunt of yours, and soon you will prove me right, just like you did earlier this year when you got kicked off this site twice.

we are sorry Vicky Tiffy why don’t you come back and tell us about Glenn plan to take over the universe by moving to Texas or tell us the one were he is a green alien from mars. better yet tell us how much Glenn reminds you of satan. poor Vicky the only friends he has here are crazier then a dunk bat on meth. are you to stupid to even use a computer.

Better rush me to the nearest burn unit.  To hell with Obama… you are my new God, Ryan.

Actually… talking to yourself has been proven to be a very effective way to solve problems. Plus it’s a good way to fill up a slow weekend.  ; )

“Wouldn’t it be greatto see the African plainsbefore they lay them to wasteand only the bones remain.Wouldn’t it be poetryto shoot holes in the poachers we seewith an elephant gun.
Men in helicopters flyshooting rhinos from out of the skyWhy do we always assumethe planet is ours to ruin?
What a legacy we’re leaving behindWhat a legacy…
Wouldn’t it be somethingfor the men killing dolphinto be caught up by their necksin their greedy fishing nets
Wouldn’t it be ironyif the tuna fish cannerieswere to fall into the seaThe dolphins and thewhales still left alivecry to the stars in the deep blue nightThere’s nowhere to hide,the people on earth willnot be denied.
What a legacy we’re leaving behindWhat a legacy…
Wouldn’t it be oddif there really was a Godand he looked down on earthand saw what we’ve done to HerWouldn’t it be just.”
-Adrian Belew

good one didn’t see that one coming.

Well, there is much greed that leads to over kill. I agree with the content of this song.  But we can’t stop eating. Hunting is also for the health of the animals.  Over population of some wildlife makes for much suffering in the animal kingdom.   And I do believe there is a God and I do believe He grieves over His children and all creation. He is saddened by mans choices to destroy out of selfishness and hate.  But this world, as I believe, shall pass away and there will be no more suffering. 

He is a psychologist who developed his own angle on psychology dealing with everything centered on the individual. Google him – there is probably a wiki on him .. he writes his own politically biased stuff and tries to justify it by erroneously and with bias applying his own psychobabble to an issue or situation to bend the picture to be seen in his frame. He states his analysis as if it were fact, when it is supposition and outright biased crap.

I never thought of it that way,I quess if I feel this way others would too…it’s a balancing act.

Goodnight Liberty. Got a busy weekend to get ready for. I have a birthday to celebrate.   I’ll be keeping you in my prayers.  ; )

The alteration of the developing brain mostly occurs in utero (affected by exposure to hormones or lack of hormones, medications, stress, XY antibodies etc. that are present/produced in the mother). The INAH3 group of neurons in the hypothalamus is the area suspected of sexual identification/orientation of the brain. It develops in utero.

Though there are further neuron connections that occur during post natal development that can be affected by stress, and environment (including chemicals) this has little to no effect on sexual orientation, and does not change the INAH3 area of the brain.

People do not choose to be homosexual – to be looked down on and reviled by part of the population, discriminated against etc. Some homosexuals have made the attempt to not be the way they are and have ended up with psychological problems because of it. Some have committed suicide. Stress does affect chemical changes in the body, but it will not make a person turn into a homosexual. If it did, I and a much greater part of the population in the US would be homosexual.

Locate a copy of “Sexual Hormones and the Brain: An Essential Alliance for Sexual Identity and Sexual Orientation” by Dr. Alicia Garcia-Falgueras & Dr. D.F.Swaab …. an abstract from that source:
“The fetal brain develops during the intrauterine period in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and sexual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. However, since sexual differentiation of the genitals takes place in the first two months of pregnancy and sexual differentiation of the brain starts in the second half of pregnancy, these two processes can be influenced independently, which may result in extreme cases in trans-sexuality. This also means that in the event of ambiguous sex at birth, the degree of masculinization of the genitals may not reflect the degree of masculinization of the brain. There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation.”

or here – I located some of their work here (Harry Benjamin Syndrome) http://www.shb-info.org/sexbrain.html

All you needed are the initials GFY

Of course there are those who wouldn’t know how to interpret it …. LMAO

… never mind the 57 states! and he still had one to go to ! … LMAO

… these are a few of my favorite things….
when the dog bite,
when the bee sting …

LMAO

Must be tough for him trying to walk around with all those flags shoved up his butt……..LMAO

It doesn’t hurt to occasionally put a mirror in front of them.

How stressed are they? LOL

Yoohoo? Click me! Click me!

Thats all they can do is act like children and lie.  It’s so sad.

I’ve gone to other sites where people have discussions like human-beings. Not like children like Sandy, Ryan F, Dood and ST. These children are not worth anyones precious time. The people these brainwashed pawns for the rich tell their lies to are just as helpless as them. These children are not worth your time and are helpless.

And yes GB is a liar and so are most of his followers apparently. Wonder where they get it?

THey did the same to me-followed me around and gang harassed me with lies and name calling with no arguments.
Thats all they can do is act like children and lie.  It’s so sad.

I’ve gone to other sites where people have discussions like human-beings. Not like children like Sandy, Ryan F, Dood and ST. They gang up on people like children and then make lies as an only argument. It’s so weak but they don’t know any better, poor kids. These children are not worth anyones precious time. The people these brainwashed pawns for the rich tell their lies to, are just as helpless as them. These children are not worth your time and are helpless.

I click you!!! Yahoo!!

It kikcked me off had to re-enter sign,yadayada

I did,I did!

Ok, now follow me…

I understand what you are saying here.  And no, I’m not saying that stress will make one homosexual.  That would be a ridiculous statement.  When I made that statement, I meant that stress was an environmental factor known to change one’s brain chemistry.  I guess I should have made myself clearer there.  What I meant there is that certain environmental factors early in life but after natal development, such as one’s social structure, actually have been known to be a major determinant in one’s sexual orientation.

I have read several studies proving that the environment, even after the post natal development, has a much bigger role in one’s sexual orientation than you think.  I mean, some studies have actually shown that one’s social environment after birth actually does have an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation.  I’ve read about a few such studies a few years back.  The American Psychological Association’s stand regarding one’s sexual orientation is that “many scientists share the view that sexual orientation is shaped for most people at an early age through complex interactions of biological, psychological and social factors.”

There’s even been one study showing that the more older brothers one has, the higher the chance of him becoming gay is.  Here’s a link describing that particular study from the Seattle Time.  It’s near the bottom.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002340883_gayscience19m.html 

I’m simply saying that certain environmental keys after the post natal development, such as one’s social structure early in life, have actually proven to play a role in one’s sexual orientation.  Also, I’ve read about several studies a few years back that actually do conclude that some homosexuals at least, not all of them but some of them, can actually choose to be homosexual.  This isn’t true in all cases, just in some cases.  And no, I’m not actually talking about the bisexual cases here.  I’m talking about true homosexuals.  What I’m saying here is that not everything is the same for everyone.  One’s sexual orientation is a complex subject that no one is really 100% on.  Though I do agree that the brain is key as you do, you should not disregard the social environment after the natal development which has shown to play just as big a role as the biological and environmental factors during the natal development.  One’s social structure early in life has been known to actually change brain structure, too, you know.

Let’s put it this way.  I haven’t seen the particular study you are citing, so thanks for the link.  I’ll definitely check into it when I find the time.  However, there are several studies regarding one’s sexual orientation, and several of the studies I’ve read actually point to genetic, biological, environmental, and even social factors all playing a key role in one’s sexual orientation.  Contrary to that particular study, since you cited some of it there, there are actually several studies that do actually show that social environment after birth has just as much of an effect, and sometimes even a greater effect, on gender identity or sexual orientation.

Sandie, I found a pretty decent link here from AllPsych online that actually lists many studies.  Here it is.
http://allpsych.com/journal/homosexuality.html 

Heck, Dr. Dean Hamer, who is gay himself, believes, as well, that homosexuality is due to a combination of social, biological, and psychological factors.  Here’s what he had to say through his own studies.  ”Genes are hardware…the data of life’s experiences are processed through the sexual software into the circuits of identity. I suspect the sexual software is a mixture of both genes and environment, in much the same way the software of a computer is a mixture of what’s installed at the factory and what’s added by the user.”  This is basically concluding that life’s experiences, that is one’s social structure, actually does have a huge impact on one’s sexual orientation.  He’s gay himself and even he couldn’t deny that the social environment after the post natal stage actually plays a major role in one’s sexual orientation.

I guess what I should say here is this.  No one study fits for all homosexual cases.  Every case is different.  It all depends on the person.  It’s a case by case basis.

ii would if i feel like it would waste an hour of my life. anyone Vicky says is telling the truth is most likly talking out of their butt.

indeed their are things i don’t like about myself fast to anger for one thing. it got allot better since i was in high school but it is still their.

i don’t know why this guy keeps coming back. everything he says is a lie or an attack on Chistians.

You’re a rich land owner who is denying poor people the ability to grow food free from chemicals. You didn’t work for anything, your Grandparents worked for it, not you. You would kill people over it and deny the poor the ability to grow their own food.

Mark 10:25 “In fact, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!” Matthew 6: 24 ‘No one can serve two masters. ether he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money” You’re willing to kill me to keep your wealth.

You’re a liar, a Warmonger, a Killer, a Hatmonger and a Hypocrite.

You’re a rich land owner who is denying poor people the ability to grow food free from chemicals. You didn’t work for anything, your Grandparents worked for it, not you. You would kill people over it and deny the poor the ability to grow their own food.

Mark 10:25 “In fact, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!” Matthew 6: 24 ‘No one can serve two masters. ether he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money” You’re willing to kill me to keep your wealth.

You’re a liar, a Warmonger, a Killer, a Hatmonger and a Hypocrite.

You’re a rich land owner who is denying poor people the ability to grow food free from chemicals. You didn’t work for anything, your Grandparents worked for it, not you. You would kill people over it and deny the poor the ability to grow their own food.

Mark 10:25 “In fact, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!” Matthew 6: 24 ‘No one can serve two masters. ether he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money” You’re willing to kill me to keep your wealth.

You’re a liar, a Warmonger, a Killer, a Hatmonger and a Hypocrite.

i wonder how many states new states we got this year. what i found to be the funniest gaffe that Obama made is when he went to England.

very fun to.

like you have room to talk. everything that you type is a lie. like i said Vicky freinds are crazier than a bat on meth.

You sir, are a quick study and have good taste in friends. I predict you will have much success.
(I know this reads kinda like a fortune cookie, but you get the idea…)

He thinks he’s a peacock!

i hope you are right.

Widely accepted by whom? Liberal intellectuals who attack everything Republican? How can you claim he was mentally unstable at times and then say you don’t think it played any major role in his presidential decisions?

Your level of confusion on the issue is truly astounding. Either he was a basket case or he was not – you can’t have it both ways.

After you make up your mind which one it is, let us know.

Here’s a hint – you are loaded with crap on this subject.

You are also wrong about the Constitution.

Projecting will not win you friends or influence people, well, it will influence people to think you are a total moron – so far you have done a bang-up job!

How sweet is success…

the only one i see with the ego Liberty also called the idiot.

You have to be making this crap up, right?
No reasonable human being could come up with conclusions like this. Need you say more, quite frankly you have embarrassed yourself with the dull witted repartee that escapes into the ether from your keyboard.

Another talking point genius. What we have here boys and girls is a ideologue parrot.

Instead of pining for the fijords like the Norwegian Blue, this one repeats the stupidity of left wing libtards.

A dead parrot is a dead parrot all the same.

Oh, yes, and the complete disrespect he showed the queen there when their National Anthem was being played.  That’s right, let’s all talk over “God Save the Queen” and further alienate the British, who are literally our brothers, from us.  Seriously, none of the British Prime Ministers of the past century would have come over here and start talking when the “Star Spangled Banner” is performed.  I mean, Obama showed England one of the greatest forms of disrespect you can show a country.  There’s no telling what he’d do next.  If it were me, I’d convert the Tower of London back into the prison it once was and lock Obama in it, lol.

LMAO one of myu favorite things… signing the wrong date (year) in the guest book, wow talk about out of touch…. and then toasting the Queen at the wrong time…. wonder what other idiotic things he did that didn’t get caught….. and lefty loonies want to drag out Palin’s moment of being stunned at such a stupid question from “Katie” that she was speechless at the insult!

Sandie, here’s a nice about.com article with several Obama gaffes.  Obama even insulted the physically impaired with an off-hand comment about bowling.  Of course, he did later apologize for that one.  Still shouldn’t even have come out, though.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama-isms.htm 

Here’s another site you might find interesting.
http://obamasgaffes.blogspot.com/

he will get reelected vs what the republicans are fielding right now.
who’s gonna beat him?
newt?….right.
mitt?…..even his own party cant stand his wall street cred’s
..lol….wait for it….
ron paul?
those are your leaders in GOP caucus’s …obama’s a shoo-in.
.
and when the GOP house gets voted out by the 99% of america now finally seeing them for what they are?
.
might even get something done in washington for a change!
or do you want to go back to the GOP reaganomic economic theories that deregulated 790 TRILLION DOLLARS worth of derivatives???
and nearly destroyed the economy of the entire world?

and he is the left’s God.

and he says that Palin stupid. the left think that Obama is all powerfull and all knowing God. what the hell. Palin is a heck of alot smarter than Obama. i know someone that meet her and had a talk with her. the guy was on the left but he even said you can’t call her a moron. funny how people like the idiot make crap up when they never meet her and he has the balls to call Christians closed minded.

Yeah, depression is a common emotional state, but major depression is a mental disorder, there is a big difference. Lincoln was observed to have issues with a major depression disorder. There is nothing wrong with have a mental disorder, if anything, it adds that much to Lincoln’s legacy. What you need to take away from this is there is a difference between depression and major depression. One being a normal emotional state and one being a mental disorder. I just made my original post to inform you that Lincoln did indeed suffer from a mental disorder, I really can’t help it if it upset your feelings, but that is your problem. By the way, I’m not your buddy, guy.

all right Carry what ever you say

I hope the birthday is for a friend or relative of yours because Jesus was born during the Summer.  Have a good one!

Obviously we can’t stop eating, but we can be more cautious to help prevent collateral damage.

That would be hard to do since you are clearly hogging all the branches. 

Not very.  You are the one with the irrational fears about the destruction of America.

Just to virtually stalk you, Ryan.  You are my hero.

You, Dood, Ryan Frederick and Sandie are paid spammers by GBTV.  They pay you to cover the truth and protect Glen’s image and his flip-flopping BS, all so you and him can get fat and rich.  He admitted in USA today that he believed in anthrapogenic-induced global warming and then flip-flopped later like the lying little bitch he and you are.  He is a shill for the ultra-elite and you four are whiny little bitches who can only make up lies as an argument.  I’ll expose you all for the whiny lying bitches you are.  

ST said he is raping the planet for his own personal gain and is hoarding frozen McDonald’s.  You’re a rich land owner who is denying poor people the ability to grow food free from chemicals. You didn’t work for anything, your Grandparents worked for it, not you. You would kill people over it and deny the poor the ability to grow their own food.
Mark 10:25 “In fact, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!” Matthew 6: 24 ‘No one can serve two masters. ether he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money” You’re willing to kill me to keep your wealth.You’re a liar, a Warmonger, a Killer, a Hatmonger and a Hypocrite.

You, Dood, Ryan Frederick and Sandie are paid spammers by GBTV.  They pay you to cover the truth and protect Glen’s image and his flip-flopping BS, all so you and him can get fat and rich.  He admitted in USA today that he believed in anthrapogenic-induced global warming and then flip-flopped later like the lying little bitch he and you are.  He is a shill for the ultra-elite and you four are whiny little bitches who can only make up lies as an argument.  I’ll expose you all for the whiny lying bitches you are.  ST said he is raping the planet for his own personal gain and is hoarding frozen McDonald’s.  You’re a rich land owner who is denying poor people the ability to grow food free from chemicals. You didn’t work for anything, your Grandparents worked for it, not you. You would kill people over it and deny the poor the ability to grow their own food.Mark 10:25 “In fact, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!” Matthew 6: 24 ‘No one can serve two masters. ether he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money” You’re willing to kill me to keep your wealth.You’re a liar, a Warmonger, a Killer, a Hatmonger and a Hypocrite.

You, Dood, Ryan Frederick and Sandie are paid spammers by GBTV.  They pay you to cover the truth and protect Glen’s image and his flip-flopping BS, all so you and him can get fat and rich.  He admitted in USA today that he believed in anthrapogenic-induced global warming and then flip-flopped later like the lying little bitch he and you are.  He is a shill for the ultra-elite and you four are whiny little bitches who can only make up lies as an argument.  I’ll expose you all for the whiny lying bitches you are.  ST said he is raping the planet for his own personal gain and is hoarding frozen McDonald’s.  You’re a rich land owner who is denying poor people the ability to grow food free from chemicals. You didn’t work for anything, your Grandparents worked for it, not you. You would kill people over it and deny the poor the ability to grow their own food.Mark 10:25 “In fact, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!” Matthew 6: 24 ‘No one can serve two masters. ether he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money” You’re willing to kill me to keep your wealth.You’re a liar, a Warmonger, a Killer, a Hatmonger and a Hypocrite.

According to the best information available, Jesus was born on the 14th of May
in 6 BC. Therefore his 2,000th birthday was on 14 May 1995. Regardless of which
date you choose for the birthday of Jesus it was not on December 25th or January
6th and God never intended that it would be observed and celebrated. God wants
us to remember the death, burial and resurrection of His Son, which is the Good
News and the purpose of His coming.
      For several centuries the Christian assembly itself paid little attention to the celebration of Jesus’ birth. The major Christian festival was Passover, the day of His Resurrection. Only
gradually, as the church developed a calendar to commemorate the major events of
the life of Jesus, did it celebrate His birth. 
       Because the date of Jesus’ birth had been forgotten, a day had to be selected. The Eastern Orthodox and the Eastern Rite churches chose January 6 while the Western church, based in Rome, chose December 25. It is known from a notice in an ancient Roman almanac that Christmas was celebrated on December 25 in Rome in AD 336. For 300 years
his birthday was not celebrated, so why should we celebrate it today?      
Today Christmas is a holiday based on gift-giving and sugary treats.  Christmas is necessary for getting many retail businesses out of the red, but it is also responsible for causing people to live beyond their means and rack up outrageous credit card debt. Not to mention that 37% of Americans gain more than 5lbs between the end of November and the beginning of January. 
      I say… scrap all the presents and treats and just do something nice for close friends and family to let them know that they are appreciated.  The only good excuse for this holiday is to spend time amongst loved ones, especially those that you don’t get to see often.

at least you are not a total ahole you’re last point is a good idea.

i wish i was a paid spammers then maybe i can make more then 250 a month.

You’re a rich land owner who is denying poor people the ability to grow food free from chemicals. You didn’t work for anything, your Grandparents worked for it, not you. You would kill people over it and deny the poor the ability to grow their own food.

Mark 10:25 “In fact, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!” Matthew 6: 24 ‘No one can serve two masters. ether he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money” You’re willing to kill me to keep your wealth.

You’re a liar, a Warmonger, a Killer, a Hatmonger and a Hypocrite.

You’re a rich land owner who is denying poor people the ability to grow food free from chemicals. You didn’t work for anything, your Grandparents worked for it, not you. You would kill people over it and deny the poor the ability to grow their own food.

Mark 10:25 “In fact, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!” Matthew 6: 24 ‘No one can serve two masters. ether he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money” You’re willing to kill me to keep your wealth.

You’re a liar, a Warmonger, a Killer, a Hatmonger and a Hypocrite.

You’re a rich land owner who is denying poor people the ability to grow food free from chemicals. You didn’t work for anything, your Grandparents worked for it, not you. You would kill people over it and deny the poor the ability to grow their own food.

Mark 10:25 “In fact, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!” Matthew 6: 24 ‘No one can serve two masters. ether he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money” You’re willing to kill me to keep your wealth.

You’re a liar, a Warmonger, a Killer, a Hatmonger and a Hypocrite.

Your Grandparents stole their land from from the Natives and raped the land for profit. You want to kill people over it. You’re a rich landowner who denies other people the right to grow their own food. You never worked for your riches you took it from other people.

You’re a Warmonger, Killer, Hatemonger and anti-Christian.

You’re a hypocrite, you are all that you complain about.

OMG! An idiot is on the loose – call the idiot police!!!

Oh, wait, that would be a call TO the idiot – my bad….

You said Peacock! Snort! Ha Ha Ha!

Yes, I did!

Maybe he is just another dead parrot????

you try to be civil to these people and they start lying and calling are faith evil. oh well.

Yeah,I have a flash point temper if I think it’s unjust….but it never lasts long,thank God.

I put it on replies to me,is that right?

video games helps me with that. i just take my anger out on that and watching Jeff Dunham on tv helps to. http://youtu.be/ifK-k8Ii8Xw

Maybe you’re not a total a-hole, either. Maybe…   : )

Sure, you can do that. It will send a copy of the replies directed at you to the email address you specified for your Disqus account and the replies will show up in your dashboard…

Long on mouth and short on brains.

Ok, But I’ll follow the conversation from these idiots from afar-too tired.

I don’t have time it seems,not this time of year anyway…I like to read,but lack the dicipline to get off the Friends site to indulge myself.

I agree His birth was not now. But I don’t care, I like to give Him glory and celebrate Him anytime, anywhere for anything.  I disagree about not much being made of His birth.  The bible talks about Him being born to a virgin, in a manger, and then wise men from far off were led to Him by a star,  and they brought gifts to celebrate the birth of the One who came to save us.  That is why we originally shared gifts as a rememberance of that first time.  Just as we break bread as a celebration of His body. 
In answer to you hoping it is my friends birthday I am celebrating. Well it is.  Jesus said not only is He our Savior, He is our FRIEND and He goes so far as to call Himself our brother, joint heirs to the Thrown of God.  
I am with you about all that other crap;  the world has turned this time into a selfish and foolish free for all. Making it more of a stressful, greed filled time than the joyful time many of us enjoy.

i am to the left.

i know what you mean.

the vast majority of the power, and therefore decisions made, in D.C over the last hundred years are attributed to the dnc. even in the 80′s under ‘Reaganomics” we had a democratic congress. the liberal tax and spend dems have had their ideas propagated time and time again. this current admin is horrible in almost every way. barry got 53% of the voters last time. I doubt he will fair that well next November. He may win but it will be close, close enough to look very suspect.. 

Since President Obama fancies himself a greater president than George Washington, I keep trying to picture him spending the winter at Valley Forge; just can’t seem to make it work.

b/t/w uninformed jtl, we voted for W because we just endured 8 years of a ridiculous liberal democratic regime and didn’t want to further the damage by electing the sitting vp to the oval office. Gore is a moron. Many stupid liberals believe Clinton is somehow intelligent, no one can believe Gore is..next we voted for W versus Kerry. As bad as W’s adminstrations were, either of the alternatives would have been worse domestically and in their foreign policies. to recap, gore is an idiot and puppet for environmental commies and kerry is an arrogant puss.  

taking the fight to ‘their back yards’ so to speak was the right decision, after our mainland being attacked. playing the liberal, fectless “just leave them alone card” that billy played in the 90′s merely empowered the lunatics. helping to install a democratic-styled government in Iraq was a ballsy move. albeit not an easy one…ubl is dead, our troops should vacate Afghan now too..the terror groups have been damaged greatly. difference is now they have a sypathiser in the highest office in our country. at the very least he empathizes with them and their views.    

we do finally agree on something..and it is important..Merry Christmas to you and yours now and all year long for that matter…

I don’t need any media outlet to tell me how to feel/think about anything Barry has said or done. Take him at his word. The offense is not that he believes himself to be the fourth best president in US history. Rather the offense, to me is, Barry believes, because of his ingrained socialistic governmental views, that he actually has domestic and foreign policy success’s in his first two years. The greatest country in the history of the world doesn’t need a ‘fundamental change’ first of all. We don’t need the government taking over the health care industry. We don’t need an enormous centralized Federal gov. We don’t need an imasculated military. We don’t need an imasculated energy sector or weakened heavy industry leading to a crippled economy. We don’t need manufacturing jobs leaving in droves b/c of staggering corporate taxes. We don’t need a tyranical superstate legislating every decision, taxing us all the while and then pretending to be libertarians when concerning abortion. Most American’s don’t support abortion here domestically much less having our tax dollars used to perform abortions in other countries which the current admin and it’s leader and their Godless party support. Where are his wonderful accomplishmentts? To those of you who believe he can’t/wont be beaten…that is very optimstic. Here’s a newsflash. He is not popular. He wont even get as many votes as he did last time…and he got only 53% then….that is not a landslide..10% unemployment at best, huge deficits, the biggest amount of debt in our history? the fumbling of Solyndra and gun running to Mexico to add insult to injury. the two new chief justices he’s tapped? he’s a fricken disaster! 

The link you gave is not to a primary source – it is to a news paper which reports on a 2005 study. It actually backs up my position. “Researcher Charles Roselli says a decade of study suggests sexual orientation is largely hard-wired into the sheep’s brains before birth.”….and ….”Sheep aren’t people, but the Oregon work adds to a growing body of research that bolsters biological explanations for sexual orientation across species — including humans.” …and…”Upbringing doesn’t seem to make a difference.” …and “None of the psychosocial theories for homosexuality have panned out so far, including Freud’s distant-father/domineering-mother dynamic.”…and…”"There have been psychological and social explanations for homosexuality for 100 years, and they haven’t come up with anything concrete,” said Ray Blanchard, head of Clinical Sexology Services at the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health in Toronto.”… The article also mis-reports some info “Not all lesbians have short ring fingers.” .. this is opposite to the findings, ie it should say long ring fingers. This is just one reason why secondary sources presented by a reporter (who gets it wrong because they may not understand the scientific documentation?) is inappropriate.

You quote the “American Psychological Association’s stand regarding one’s sexual orientation”. The sources I refer to are more recent and in the field of science, not psychology. I would believe scientific research before I would believe psychological theory/opinion.

You said “I’m simply saying that certain environmental keys after the post natal development, such as one’s social structure early in life, have actually proven to play a role in one’s sexual orientation.” This is actually not proven and science says opposite to what you claim…. even in your link it is not supported.

Although your link states “There’s even been one study showing that the more older brothers one has, the higher the chance of him becoming gay is.” it does not explain why. In scientific literature, you will find that with every pregnancy the male fetus produces what is called XY antigens, to which the mother creates ZXY antibodies. The build up and effect future male pregnancies. These XY antibodies affect the fetus of later born sons (in utero) which affects the brain development, further supporting my position and that of the scientific community…. The latest scientific/medical research points to the position that homosexuals are born, not made postnatally.

I’m sorry, but you are simply wrong here.  It actually IS proven that one’s social structure early in life actually DOES play a role in one’s sexual orientation.  The links I’ve provided actually DO support that.

Also, the link clearly states that it is the social structure of the more older brothers that leads to a higher chance of becoming homosexual.  It made that point clear.

The latest scientific studies today actually point to the same results of the scientific studies done in the past, that there is no clear 100% evidence that homosexuals are either made or born.  However, there is clear evidence that at least a few homosexuals are made due to life experiences.  Heck, even Dean Hamer, who is gay himself, came to that conclusion when he made his own studies on homosexuality.  It is simply wrong to say the scientific data supports the conclusion that homosexuals are born when the scientific data simply does NOT support that and there are several such cases where homosexuals become homosexual through life experiences.  I mean, you cite one study.  I’ve cited several that prove the contrary to be true.  I do agree that the brain is the issue.  However, the brain changes throughout one’s life.  You can add to the brain throughout life’s experiences.  This has proven to be the case for many homosexuals according to several scientific studies, including that done by Dr. Dean Hamer.  I’ve read several such studies that prove this.

In short, the scientific evidence from the vast majority of scientific studies have come to the conclusion that there is no 100% link, but, at the same time, one’s social structure after the natal development has actually proven to play just as much a role, if not an even bigger role, in deciding one’s sexual orientation.  Several scientists have testified to that fact, including a few who happen to be gay themselves, like Dr. Dean Hamer.  It is simply wrong to say that one’s social structure doesn’t play a role when several studies prove otherwise.

This April 2003 article states “Although the APA currently states that sexual orientation is not a choice, ” and then goes on to say “social theorists argue that an individual’s upbringing can directly influence this [sexual orientation]. Note – it says social theorist, not scientific/medical research.

It also states “Biological theorists have found substantial instances of anatomical, genetic, and endocrine evidence to support their argument.” It goes on to list various biological research/studies that support prenatal causes, and then goes on to say “While all of this scientific experimentation and conclusion seems evidentiary, sociobehaviorists are not convinced.” It then refutes the beliefs of sociobehaviorists with the statement “Behaviorists believe that some sexual and gender identification differences result from roles imposed by family and friends upon children, such as the masculine and the feminine stereotypes. Problems with this are there is no evidence, social or biological, to support that homosexual children were raised differently than were the heterosexual children.”

Nowhere in the linked article does Hamer make the statement you quoted. In the article, it refers to his theory that in gay men there is an X-link. He found that there was a ‘remarkable concordance’ for 5 genetic markers on section of the X-Chromosome called Xq28.

Nowhere in this article does it conclude that one’s life’s experiences or social structure have a huge impact on one’s sexual orientation.

Referring to our previous mention of identical twin studies: It was found that there was an increased incidence of both twins being homosexual than in non twin siblings, but no one could explain why the twin genetics didn’t cause both to be homosexual in all cases. One would expect all to be the same. Once the zygote splits there is separate development. Proof of that is the fact that identical twins have different, unique fingerprints.

Sadie and One Man Army doe any of this realy matter their here that is all i need to know let the egg heads figure it out. it is allmost Christmas be nice.

And I’m not denying those studies done by biological theorists.  Seriously, how many times do I have to say that?  However, I’m also not denying the studies done by social theorists which prove the contrary to be true.  Also, social theorists are just as much scientists as biologists are as long as they follow the scientific method, which they have in this case.  You seem to be picking and choosing which studies to believe here.  In science, you simply CANNOT do that.  Since the social studies do actually prove a social link to one becoming gay, you cannot deny it simply because another study proves a biological link.  In truth, that leads to faulty science.  That is what I am saying here.  There is no proven, 100% cause to one becoming gay, and there likely will NEVER be due to all the conflicting studies.  What I am saying is that some choose to be gay and some do not.  It depends entirely on the individual.

Also, the article doesn’t conclude that one’s life experiences or social structure has a huge impact on one’s sexual orientation.  That wasn’t the point of that particular article. The point of that particular article was to point out that there are SEVERAL factors that have an impact on someone becoming gay, including social ones.  The point was simply to state that there is simply NO one source.  To claim just ONE source for homosexuality when there are several studies that at least in certain cases one’s social structure plays just as big a role, even bigger of a role even, just leads to bad science.

By the way, Dr. Dean Hamer’s quote that I gave you there actually came from a different source.  Here’s a link to that quote and others.
http://www.narth.com/docs/bornway.html 

Again, I will reiterate.  I am NOT disregarding ANY of the biological studies done.  However, in the same token, you CANNOT disregard any of the social studies done that prove a social link.  That leads to faulty science.  The social studies done regarding homosexuality actually prove beyond doubt that there is, in fact, a social link to one becoming gay.  Many actual gay scientists have actually testified to this fact.  Dr. Dean Hamer isn’t alone in that regard, you know.  He’s just a prominent one.  It has also been shown that one’s brain structure can and does change throughout one’s life, which, in effect, can make someone gay.  Many studies have been done to prove this.

Sadie and One Man Army doe any of this realy matter their here that is all i need to know let the egg heads figure it out. it is allmost Christmas be nice.

Ryan, I don’t mean to come off as confrontational there.  I’m simply stating that there are multiple factors that play a role in one’s sexual orientation.  You can’t disregard one scientific study just because it disagrees with another scientific study.  In truth, you should take the studies together and see what they indicate together.  That’s what I try to do.  The conclusion is that some gays do choose and others do not.  Each individual is different both biologically and socially.  I won’t deny the scientific studies done on the biological component.  However, I won’t deny the scientific studies done on the social component, either.  Fact of the matter in the general scientific consensus is that there is no one determinant link to becoming gay and every study done backs that up.  Dr. Dean Hamer, a gay man himself, made it clear that his studies were done to pinpoint the genetic factors and NOT negate the psychosocial ones.  Even he accepted that the social factors exist, and he actually is gay.

What I can say with 100% certainty is this, however.  In my case, I actually DID make a conscious choice to be straight.  I could have easily made a conscious choice to be gay, but chose not to.  That’s just my case, though.  Every case will be different.

Onery, wrong again.  As I said, many health issues get called a mental disorder when, in truth, they are NOTHING more than our own emotions coming through.  Depression is one of these.  What of that did you not get?  Do I need to state it a third time?

Lincoln was NOT observed to have major depression disorder.  Lincoln was observed to have major depression, period.  Not a mental disorder.  Just major depression.

I will turn your words back on you here.  Sorry to hurt your feelings using ACTUAL facts, but that is your problem.  Again, you are ill informed, BUDDY.

You probably will enjoy this one – Obama’s funny bloopers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxXh6ZWfbDg&feature=BF&playnext=1&list=QL

this one really funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4-AKcH3eC8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5R6kVry4_c

Obama Gaffe – A Billionaire Should Pay Same Tax Rate as a Jew (er… Janitor!) :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slUq0vNMrPM (little Freudian slip there?)

After you watch it, put OBAMA GAFFES in the search line and you will get a bunch of gaffes that were’t included in that clip – like referring to Bush’s “4th term” in office.. SCOTUS being tasked with putting into practice laws from 20 centuries ago (really? 2000 years ago?) and many more.

any one of the republican candidates is far more experienced than barry was, as the junior senator, when he ran for pres. the liberal-socialist loving media always tells the American sheeple that the dem candidate is the smartest, greatest, coolest slob on the planet..when in fact he is only the latest socialist salesman to hang their hopes on. Ron Paul wont get elected president. i agree. But, I would much rather have Perry, Santorum, Romney or Gingrich and the admin they build than who/what we have now. The gop controlling the house has been much better, I think, than when the dem’s had a super majority. b/t/w “we have to pass the bill to see what’s in it” Queen Nancy? r u serious? talk about asinine and corrupt. Pelosi quipped recently about abortion, that although she is catholic  “Christians get hung up with our consciences”..etc..I feel sorry for the self medicating old witch. I also feel sorry for her because she knows so little about catholicism and Biblical Christianity that she cannot differentiate between the two. for shame!    

The guy is talking smack again. Ignore his nonsense.

the only one suffers from mental disorders is Onery one he thinks 23 going to kill us all.

What a coincidence , I was just watching him on the comedy channel last night – there were a few of his shows that ran sequentially. Love that achmed the dead terrorist. Did you ever notice the facial similarities between Walter and Joe Biden? … LMAO

I noticed that a lot of the replies to my comments from certain websites don’t show up in my email. Particularly from Altnet and AlJazeera to name a couple.

That’s odd. I get everything…

The links do not support it. I saw it in black & white. Please quote in the link what you are referring to. The link is also not a primary source. It assumes that the birth order is a social effect, while scientific evidence shows it is due to chemical environment prenatally (increased XY antibodies from previous male births) effecting the fetus during brain development.

The preponderance of the scientific evidence and research point to born, not made. You said “Too many studies exist that prove without doubt that one’s social structure plays an extremely important role in one becoming gay, including several done by many scientists who actually ARE gay.” I am not saying there is no social effect , but so little as to be unimportant. I referred one study to you but it is fairly representative of several others. Almost all the theories that try to promote social rather than biological/medical reasons are the views of people in the field of psychology, sociology rather than science and medicine. I will believe the scientific evidence and theories before I believe social theories and opinions. If the social exposure was significant, I would be homosexual as would many gender reassigned babies. I can asure you, I am not homosexual.

OMA, it appears that we will not agree on this subject. Perhaps it is pointless to continue discussing it? Where I believe 99+% brain development and 1-% social, where do you weight your stance?

Sorry, the studies done by social theorists do not provide proof. Theory and proof are two different things. Scientific evidence is another. We will not agree and I wish to carry this discussion no further…. it is pointless.

Ryan, don’t worry about it – it is a discussion between OMA and me, and we disagree. Because we disagree does not mean we are not being “nice”.

What you just said there is wrong, though.  The preponderance of the scientific evidence and research point to NEITHER born NOR made.  They point to BOTH born AND made.  The study you referred to is NOT representative of several studies.  It’s representative of ONE study.  There are several studies out there, including some by actual gay scientists, that prove that in some cases the social effect is at least as large a factor, sometimes even a much larger factor, in determining one’s sexual orientation.  Since several studies out there have proven that the social effect is at least as big, and sometimes even greater, there could NOT possibly be any evidence pointing to just one source.  Even Dr. Dean Hamer came to that conclusion.

By the way, psychology and sociology are still scientific fields.  The evidence they come to still count as scientific evidence as long as they follow the scientific method, which they do in this case.  Also, if the social exposure were significant, which it IS according to several studies, that does NOT mean in ANY way that you would become homosexual.  Nor would it mean that for many gender reassigned babies.  I don’t even know where you get that assumption at because there are simply too many factors at work here to even make such an assumption.

Also, your number there disregards something else I said.  I completely agree that the brain is key.  I believe that it is 100% brain development.  However, what you seem to be forgetting here is that one’s social structure early in one’s life, and even late in life for that matter, has been known to completely alter one’s brain chemistry and even make people gay, as proven by several scientific studies.  So, if I had to choose a percentage, I’d say 100% brain.  However, there are SEVERAL factors that influence the brain.  If I had to choose percentages of those brain influences, I’d put it half and half.  About half of it influenced at birth, and the other half influenced by life experiences.

I will reiterate that I 100% agree with you that the brain is key.  However, the brain doesn’t just end its development at birth, you know.  Social keys early in life also alter the brain’s development in such a way to make someone gay.  So many studies have actually been done to prove this fact.

I will end with what the scientific consensus is.  The scientific consensus regarding homosexuality is that you are neither made nor are you born a homosexual.  The scientific consensus regarding homosexuality is that several factors, genetic, biological, environmental, psychological, and even social ones, play a part in one’s sexual orientation.  That has been the scientific consensus for years and continues to be for one reason and one reason alone.  NO study, not even the one you cite, offer one clear distinct cause that is 100% for all cases.  Some scientific studies concluded that social structure plays an extremely important role.  Others conclude that genetics or biology are vital.  However, neither one can be disregarded because neither one explains it in every case.  That’s why I say some do actually choose to be and some don’t.  You simply cannot disregard one study because another study proves a different link.  If both conclusions came from a proper handling of the scientific method, which they do in this case, you can’t just disregard one for the one that seems more favorable.  That leads to faulty science.  You have to combine them and see what makes sense.

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Okay.  One final comment before I leave this be, then.

First off, you are wrong.  Studies done by social theorists DO provide proof as long as their studies properly use the scientific method, which they do in this case.  Since their studies do actually prove a social link, this is scientific evidence of a social link.  Even Dr. Dean Hamer, who is gay himself, accepted the fact that a social link exists.  He stated himself that his studies were not to negate the psychosocial factor but to prove the genetic factor.  His studies, however, actually proved that there are both social and genetic factors at work.

If it’s scientific evidence you want, and I’ve given you plenty that do prove the social element, you should realize that the vast majority of the scientific evidence supports the notion that there are several factors at work.  The scientific evidence supports the fact that one’s social structure, at least in some cases, is just as big a factor, sometimes an even bigger factor, in one becoming gay or not.  That is actually what the scientific evidence supports, and I’ve given you a few links describing that.  I’m not saying it is ALL social.  However, it is not ALL biological, either.  That is what the science supports.  That is what even most actual gay researchers support, as well.

We may not agree.  However, I’ve read several studies, and I will not disregard one just to believe in another.  I’m certainly not going to disregard the one you cite.  However, you shouldn’t disregard others that conclude a social cause for one you deem more favorable.  That leads to faulty science.

Well, that is dern peculiar. The Disqus system is always a little flaky. Maybe there is a regular glitch with those sites you mentioned… Maybe it’s a conspiracy. I dunno…

I seem to get everything. My Disqus mail has like 20,000 responses in it since I started my account just under a year ago…

i know just picking.

i was to the guy all ways cheers me up. now that i think about the do look the same.

both of you got good points. just saying play nice. LOL! the stuff you guys are talking about is over my head anyway. Astronomy my science. reading what to you two wirte about hurts my head.

Ryan, there’s just so many conflicting studies out there that it actually is difficult to choose one over the other.  Many studies point to a genetic or biological link.  However, many other studies point more toward an environmental or social link.  I’m not the kind to disregard one study for the more favorable study when both studies are equally valid scientifically speaking.  That’s why I look at them and conclude that some do choose and others do not.  For some, it is nothing more than a life choice.  For others, they just can’t help it because it’s who they are.  I came to that conclusion about 4 or 5 years ago after reading several conflicting studies.  I’ve seen people turn from gay to straight.  I’ve seen someone firsthand who told his own story about how he turned away from his own homosexuality.  He described how, for him as well, that it was nothing more than a choice he made in his life.  Fact of the matter is that the science behind homosexuality is more confused than the science behind Anthropogenic Global Warming.  Scientists have no real consensus on one particular thing or another regarding homosexuality.  The scientific consensus regarding homosexuality is that everything actually plays a part.  At least when it comes to AGW, you have one or the other.  That simply isn’t the case with homosexuality.

Sandie, I will make this comment here under Ryan since it’s of the same nature and I have it on my mind.  We may not agree when it comes to homosexuality.  However, we do agree where it REALLY matters, and that is to get Obama, our idiot in chief, out of the White House.  Him and his gaffes, lol.  I will leave with this.  You shouldn’t disregard one study for another study just because it seems more favorable, especially when both studies are equally valid scientifically speaking.  You should combine them and see what makes the most sense.  That’s what I’ve done, and that’s what I’m going to continue to do.  Sometimes it’s not as simple as being one thing or another.  Sometimes there are just too many factors at work for it to be more one thing or another.  Homosexuality is one such example.  Okay, end of.  Done.  Over.  Enough of this stupid debate.  It’s a debate that will continue on for decades and there will never be a clear answer.  That’s science for you.

I disagree.
The study I cited as being representative is…. there are other studies that are similar or equal to it. As far as your statement “I will end with what the scientific consensus is. ” … There is no scientific consensus. Some believe it is nature vs nurture in varying degrees. Apparently you and I disagree as to where the preponderence is, as do many who study the issue, be they from Medical, Biological or Psychological backgrounds.

Your statement: “By the way, psychology and sociology are still scientific fields.” If we define science broadly, as the systematic search for knowledge, psychology would qualify for that label. I am more demanding. Psychology is a branch of science which studies human and animal behavior. Many feel that it does so using a lot of introspection. I am not going to start a discussion on that subject, but to me it seems less definitive and gives more room for the observers bias.

My last to you on the subject – You say I am wrong, I say you are wrong. I am not saying there is NO social link (recall I was at 99% and 1%).

Like you, I have read several studies. Some are primary research sources. I have not disregarded one just to believe in another. Through the information given, I tend to be swayed more to one aspect than another because I find the data and objectivity to be more persuasive….. and there is no faulty science to that.

That’s the whole point.  The scientific consensus regarding homosexuality is that there is really no real consensus at all.  The scientific consensus is that several factors are at work, both social and biological.  Just as there are other studies that are similar or equal to the one you cited, there are yet several other studies that come to the exact opposite conclusion.  I cited a few of those myself.  That is the point.  There are just too many factors at work.

Also, defined narrowly, psychology and sociology are still regarded as science.  They are scientific fields, after all, using even a narrow definition of science.

I think I get all Becks. but the others I can only get to see on the dash. Once in a great while I will get an Altnet email notice. I tried going back, editing and refiling my profile, but it made no difference.

I probably shouldn’t have said you were wrong there.  My mistake.  What I probably should have stated is that it is wrong to state that the vast majority of scientific evidence supports the fact that people are born homosexual when, in actual fact, the vast majority of scientific evidence supports the fact that some, but NOT all, are born, while others, but NOT all, are made through life’s journey.  That is what the vast majority of the scientific evidence supports, and several scientific studies, taken together, support that conclusion.

Put it this way.  The study you cited flat out said that there is no evidence to support a social link.  However, in that regard, they are wrong.  Several studies have been done that prove a social link.  Heck, even Dr. Hamen’s study on homosexuality proved a major social link.  But it also prove a major biological link.  That’s where my stance is.  In this particular case, there simply is no one factor, whether that be social or biological, that causes someone to become homosexual.  It’s a case by case basis.  Everyone is different both biologically and socially.  What I can tell you is this.  I saw a guy first hand who explained his own personal journey.  He described how early in life he chose to be gay.  Didn’t say he was born that way.  Said he chose to be gay.  Later in life, he changed and turned away from his homosexuality.  This is proof right there that not everyone who is gay was actually born gay.  I’m not going to say with 100% certainty that NO ONE is born gay.  That would be stupid.  However, in the same token, I’m not going to say that NO ONE is made gay.  That would be equally as stupid.  It’s simply a case by case basis.

I am done discussing the subject.

I guess so am I.  So be it.

Have a Merry Christmas, okay.  Hope you have a good one there.  Any family plans, at all?

As I said, I am done with this discussion. There is nothing new on our responses.

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Mery Christmas to you and yours. No plans here.

Same here.  I will probably be catching up on some Glenn Beck and PJTV videos I’ve missed over the past few days.

well at least you see that it is stupid debate.

You seem to be a real dope – can this be possible?

In reply to your earlier statement; “Secondly – what wmd’s?  I mean, really, yes you can easily hide a
biological warfare lag, but chemical and nuclear weapons?  Nope – you
just can’t manufacture that stuff in your kitchen.”

Actually you can. Ricin is made from castor beans and is a real nasty chemical weapon, and yes you can indeed make it in a kitchen. Saddam had mobile weapons labs and these were found during the early part of the Iraq War. Saddam also had several months to store WMD materiel in Syria, and since he was giving UN Weapons Inspectors the do-si-do, it is more probable than not that he was hiding WMDs than it is he was just doing it to be a joker.

The biggest reason – for which the UN sanction was issued that led to our invasion of Iraq was the games he was playing hide and seek games with UN Weapons Inspectors that he agreed to in the surrender of Iraq in the first Gulf War. He showed contempt for UN authority and broke the treaty – that is the main reason Iraq was invaded, to wrest control of Iraq from Saddam Hussein.

He gets all the wrong things done. On the economy, consider this:

From the Consumer price index –

the average cost of one pound of 100 percent ground beef went from $2.03 in
January 2001 to $3.91 last month, an increase of 92.6 percent. One gallon milk
was $2.82, on average, in January 2001, and it is $3.55 today – an increase of
25.8 percent. One pound of coffee was $3.22 in January 2001 and today it is $5.63 per
pound, on average – an increase of 74.8 percent.

His economic policies have created more hardship for the American people than they have alleviated, pretty poor performance from a “messiah”. Average people in America can’t afford a home, can’t make enough to feed their families, and have idiotic policy after idiotic policy coming from the White House and Congress. We haven’t got the luxury of re-electing this disastrous chief executive. He is pounding on the nation with a crushing debt load, and increasing prices for everything at double digit percentages, while he and his family waste billions on junkets and vacations at an unprecedented rate.

You seem to be the idiot here.

He will not be re-elected by any thinking human being. He is the worst president of modern times, and you liberals who put him into office are going to be facing a great reckoning in November, 2012. You may as well develop a taste for crow now.

You are what I call a flaggit – everytime you post something that criticizes others and calls them names, I flag it. I recommend that everyone flag your comments. You are a troll and you know it.

You know nothing of liberty and would deny others liberty in favor of your own selfishness.

Doodaddio –

First, ricin is a biological weapons – because as you state it come from castor beans. 

Second – still waiting on that evidence substantiating that Hussein exported wmd’s to a country that saw him as a threat.  Got any? (And quoting one-man-army doesn’t count).  Come one, man up, o-m-a/beck in drag!

Well, Ryan.  Nothing out of the ordinary happened on the 23rd at my place.  No meteor crash landed to earth.  No flood drowned the city where I live.  Heck, it’s Christmas and I didn’t even get a blizzard on the 23rd.  LOL  How ’bout you?  Any damage done there?  I wish some would have happened.  Would have made life a bit more exciting.

it just cold here.

I noticed this was from the Huss family, any relation to Richard and Rosemary Huss of New Jersy.Being that it is not a common name, I thought maybe some relation,.This is a friend of Rosemary, Lydia is my name.

This video is great.  On my website (http://www.cynicalmusings.com), I do a line-up of stupidest quotes of the year, and I think Obama’s stating he is the 4th best president in history (at least related to legislative and foreign policy in the first two years, I believe he said) is going to make the list.  Any president who is listing himself on the “best president’s of all time” list needs both a reality check and some humility. 

Here is just ONE example among many.  He appointed a pro-pedophile to be national head of school safety.  How’s that!  Enough SAID!

President Obama’s “safe schools czar” is a former schoolteacher who has
advocated promoting homosexuality in schools, written about his past
drug abuse, expressed his contempt for religion and detailed an incident
in which he did not report an underage student who told him he was
having sex with older men.Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/23/critics-assail-obamas-safe-schools-czar-say-hes-wrong-man-job/#ixzz1heiBHERi

While I agree with many of Ron Paul’s domestic policy position, he is literally a loony toon on foreign policy.  He believes in complete isolationism.  The last two times we tried that were right before WWI and right before WWII.  If we followed his foreign policy, I promise you, we would see another global war in fairly short order.

nothing you wrote in response to Conder is true. Conservative Christian people started the greatest country in the history of the world. We don’t want war muchless endless wars, high gas prices, big business out of control or any of the nonsense you believe we stand for. absurd. we don’t need the government controlling health care and doling it out to “the poor”. my brother had a first class knee surgery performed at The Texas Medical Center complex, which is a conglomeration of multiple hospitals and specialists in Houston, Texas. This happened almost 20 years ago. He didn’t even have a job at the time! Like other broke jokes he went through the social security office. Waited. Filled out forms. waited some more. Then Race Bannon, the stud orthopedic knee surgeon, did the deed.  It wasn’t as fast as if he had insurance, but this awful country still helped him out. If the poor can’t get health treatment, then why are our clinics and emergency rooms filled with illegal imigrants? They don’t have drivers licenses, car insurance, social security cards or even habla engles. They don’t get turned away either. Most of the births in Texas and Californina that involve uninsured women are illegal immigrants..mostly from Mexico. It is a staggering number of births in the last decade b/t/w You and I are paying for them.

so explain the Taxed Enough Already sympathizers. Millions of Average Americans dissappointed with both ‘legitimate’ polical parties have become vocal and organized to elect like minded individuals or enter political life personally. this recent historical fact seems to fly in the face of your opinion. Also, I have the impression, reinforced repeatedly, that GB and others on ‘the right’ are encouraging this very thing.

It’s called, “Delusions of Grandeur” ~ I wouldn’t be surprised if at some level he’s actually certifiably insane. And he’s the freakin’ POTUS. The left elected him… yeah, you’re right, nothing new under the sun.

Best ever… (puke that) Can you imagine what they’d be saying if it were Bush’s Drones.
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